Lee Radziwill Interview - T Magazine | The New York Times

What's worse at dinner sitting next to a snob or a wild boar? Oh, I said a boar because a snob at least has a personality, yes, exactly and because you might laugh, yes, especially so at that time Truman was a very close friend of mine and um, he took me to see several concerts of Stone here in the garden, so he said, uh, Rolling Stone

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, uh, asked Truman if he would write his tour, and then, um, he was excited and delighted, so he said, honey, you have to come, um and so I said I would love to um and that's how it started.

I don't remember how many cities I went to and you slept on a tour bus, yes, in the bunk, yes, imagining that going backstage was always wonderful while they were tuning. and working out and shouting and uh you felt so much emotion how was MC Jagger how was he how was he how was he oh how was he I think the way you would expect him to be um absolutely the leader always in command the one that the one that stood so straight so he could order everyone, keep everyone else under your control or under control, did you find that sexy?

I can see how people found it sexy, but I found it a bit repulsive, you hated Miss Porters didn't you, oh yeah. but I always hated school, but I really hated Miss Porters, ra raah ra, her teams must win and even a hat in New York. I will never forget that I was terrible at sports and was always the last one to be chosen for a team that was so embarrassing and made me feel pathetic. I felt miserable, so I took my mother's high heels and my dog ​​Abier from FL and walked across the tribal bridge saying: I'm going to escape.

I am out of here. I realized that I could. I didn't get much further and I didn't know where I was going anyway, so I turned around and of course when I got home, as usual, I got punished, but the punishment wasn't half as bad as the punishment. for trying to adopt an orphan they left me alone in this huge house of my mother and my stepfather mlan Virginia uh while they were fishing on the high seas in Chile how old were you like 11 and um I was so alone that all I did was play in the woods with my dogs day after day where your sister was at boarding school and um so I'm a very fat cook named Nelly she was my only friend and I decided I couldn't take it anymore so I looked in the classified yellow pages for orphans orphanages and um, so I saved up, took my pathetic allowance, called a taxi from the yellow pages, um, the one closest to our house, and then the taxi arrived, we went to the orphanage, I asked him to please wait and um, I went in and told him to the mother superior at the desk my name is so and so and I have come to adopt an orphan um and I have a lovely place uh where she would be terribly happy uh horses and dogs and walks and she would really love them and she looked at me absolutely stunned and He said: I am so sorry, dear, but you are too young for us to allow you to take a job when my mother returned about a week later.

I received such health. That's how you could upset me, how you could. Torture me like you did. We were so worried about you. I couldn't understand why it was like that. They were in Chile on a motor boat. Can you talk about me? How did you meet Peter that summer in Greece? Well, when my sister asked me. come and recover after the big Scorpio operation and have my own house there and the children, etc. It sounded like the ideal place to recover and she had already asked Peter Beard who she knew to come and entertain her children with painting. with sculpture with skiing they just adored him his mess was everywhere in the house his collages photographs everywhere on every floor and he was always on his knees gluing or rubbing a pen on his arm to get blood to put on his paintings and then we would go out at the end of my recreation recovery and water ski for hours when the incredible heat had subsided and it was just Heaven because in those days there were so few boats that there were at least 100 beaches.

For you, when we returned to New York, I often slept in his truck, he had a magnificent appearance and I had a body like God, he was always the same color T and always an opinion and an extraordinary disguise that only he could. get away with it, it just made me a lot more interested and a lot more curious about the possibilities. Can you talk about that Monday summer at Monto at Andy's house and that was because Peter knew Andy very well and Andy just bought it and never spent a night there and um, it was really difficult, but I was at sea and I loved it, I remember asking you about Gray Gardens and your cousin and your aunt did, it was that in Hamptons New, where it was, it was in East Hampton and it was My idea was the year Stash and I lived in England in Chville to come back to Eastampton, which I was so homesick for as a child and having my extremely eccentric and being the narrator of my memories and she had a wonderful singing voice. um and she would say anything Her imagination was quite extraordinary and her daughter Edy, little Edy we always called her um was almost as eccentric as a girl was eccentric even when she was a child she was very eccentric no, not at all she graduated from Harvard It was when her mother he locked her up as a companion in Gray Gardens and never left East Hampton for 25 years, so I thought it would be a wonderful idea to go back there.

I said it would take days, weeks, to get into that house. won't let us so Peter said we'll get the masels because they have 16mm cameras and the Beals won't be scared if that and the masel I think will be delighted with them and the beos would be terribly attracted to the masel. because they love having their pictures taken and they love yelling at each other constantly and they said listen, we don't want this to be an editorial narrative for you because of your nostalgia, we can really do something extraordinary with this, well, it was necessary.

I've been driving since mon for weeks, I talk to East, his house in East, with tampon to open the door so that you don't just knock on the door and open it, even oh no, no, no, you hit and yell, can you tell ? tell us a little bit about anasis not a good try Sophia I'm curious, okay, I'm always concerned about how incredibly loud we've talked about this, how incredibly strong and stubborn you are, and yet how you maintain this kind of childlike sense of curiosity. and joy and that you are quite adventurous and mischievous and also I guess a little vulnerable um I don't see why you can't be both do you see yourself as strong?

Yes, I do and I see myself as vulnerable. committed to life and to people and to art and to culture well, otherwise I wouldn't want to live um if you weren't involved in curiosity and yeah, if I wasn't curious, yeah, I wouldn't want to live and like L buuel said at the beginning of his book aopo of his mother um without memory there is no life and um that's how I would feel mhm soon no