Katie Hopkins | We Should NOT Support No Platforming (6/8) | Oxford Union

and now I hope Katie Hopkins continues the case for the opposition tonight, I still warn you to stop insulting me. I will answer you. I'm almost starting to wish Shaw had bothered to show up because, frankly, that was lame. Don't know. I know that if you showed something, I think you've probably improved. The reason you're not hurt is because you're just not that interesting. They were talking earlier about the fact that this side of the room was mostly right-wing and this side of the room was mostly abandoned, well, I guess that's not entirely true. I think this side of the room is right and you guys are just wrong.

I think the only thing they probably demonstrated in their talk for the duration of their talk was that I can count to five. I'm glad there are only three chapters of your book because it would be a very boring novel. Thank you all very much for being here tonight. I appreciate you being here and I really appreciate you staying in the room. Also, I find people leaving debates to be quite tedious, not only do I have to wait for them to leave, but when they leave they always wander around instead of what they are doing because now they can't hear what's going on.

I was recently asked to speak at the University of Exeter and I accepted. When I entered the building I was asked to film a legal declaration form that I would not offend anyone in the room. They told me if I didn't sign this. Since security would physically remove me from the University debating chamber vegan, I mean, may God help this vegan debating society come to power. There will be a billion truly terrible moments. Short and vegan people. Two things I just can't stand. They must never run this Oxford Union. Who said that. Well, for the love of God.

You know, don't just sit there smiling, the librarian is a what's possible? could it be true? Will it be of any use to anyone? she no no they can never be vegans who could be president that big Eddie from the Oxford Union that I They asked me to sign, we're getting a little distracted, but they asked me to sign a form to say that I wouldn't offend anyone during that speech, but in order to speak I would have to sign the form, so I asked the room for the camera how I would do it. Should I sign here?

They said yes. I signed the form, turned it into a paper airplane to security, and then asked anyone in the room who was going to be offended to please leave the room if they felt I had the potential to do so. offend you in anything you stand up for the principles you live by, then please leave the room and only one person left the room, which I completely applauded and those people were then replaced by the crowd outside who couldn't get in and was replaced by a much more attractive person. person who was previously in the room, my point is that I don't think it's fair to invite someone to debate and then say that they can't offend the audience.

I think the point of you being here is to be offended. I'm offended by your shirt, could you continue? I don't even smoke a disk, complete a final solution, how do you talk if you have broken a final solution? Isn't it complete hypocrisy what is used after the Manchester Arena? Thank you very much for your help. information point after the terrorist attacks at the Manchester Arena the morning after those attacks I said that we need a final solution to terrorism. I stand by that tweet. I do not have any problem with that. I say never apologize, I never explained it because apologies and explanations never quell this. a lot of apologies only encourage the bastard, frankly, the tweet people didn't like it because they applied their own interpretation to it.

I want a solution that is coherent and that, above all, ends terror in the UK and I can tell you something moving. Making gestures with shapes to the sky is not going to help lighting more candles is not going to help turning off the lights of the Eiffel Tower one more time is not going to do it I am epileptic if they turn those lights on and off more times I am in danger of having a seizure this is not is the solution we need maybe you have seen today Danny Baker has recovered you can laugh even if you hate me it is possible that both things consistently together are possible and Danny Baker today was fired for a tweet he lost his radio show now it can be said that It was a terrible tweet, a racist tweet, how dare you?

What a horrible thing to do. I really don't think a guy with a radio show on the BBC would send that tweet, which means what people have inferred. To me you can't be that stupid the same way I got fired from my radio show for my tweet. You can't possibly send a tweet like that in the hope of causing that level of offence, I think at one point. Sir, I am responding to one point of information before you have a second point of information. I really think people are offended, you are offended because you choose it.

I'm not offended, you choose to make it and you need to make better decisions. In my opinion, you consider yourself educated people. I'm just not sure about that. Sometimes they know it. Yesterday I was surprised to receive an email from The Guardian. A terrible newspaper employs short people who wear sweaters again. Owen Jones. I mean, who does that? The Guardian says: could they? Please have a comment because the NASA representative was not going to appear because I am here speaking. NASA wasn't going to show up to

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the proposal that there

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be no platforms because they didn't want to give me a platform.

Someone else? I solve it. Does anyone have those type of lizards starting to eat their own tail? She didn't show up to

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n't give me a platform to argue against her, it's absolute madness. we have entered into a territory around that is impossible to conceive it is a bit like listening to your argument sir where we cannot no no no prappas has the proposal which is the opposition because we cannot no no no there is no platform no one I don't I really understand some of that , but I think the fact that we don't have Na Na here is a shame, but she didn't just leave, didn't she just say she wouldn't come to the debate?

What did she do first? was calling these guys to tell them I was thinking about not attending the debate in the hopes that I wouldn't have any platform and that's precisely how these people operate, they like to try to eliminate other people from the debate so they can I'll be here but I would like to thank the Union for being faithful to its founding principles. This

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without its own political opinions is a specific space for people with controversial and inflammatory opinions. Donna, you're not hot, go on, thank you so much for the compliment. I'll go with that, I think we actually do better as a country when we have people and we're able to disarm them and sometimes that's with humor and sometimes with debate, you know, I think God, Hardee, I've been the target of a jihadist. plot to behead me I was a lady she wanted my head as a wedding gift from her jihadist husband this is not a made up story actually there is a report in The Guardian that she knew about it and as a wedding gift she wanted my head she brought him a plastic doll that they practice with a night hunt the security team showed up at my house and set up panic alarms the lady who wanted my head they called it a cover Habba Habba Habba I guess I'm not sure, honey, oh she wanted my head because she thought It would be a good way to silence me as the greatest in Britain, but you know, the thing about G.

Hardee is that of course we have jihadists returning to this country, Dave, we 340, two of them, certain governments let them return returning jihadists, which is a misnomer in itself. Isn't that G Hardee? They're supposed to go and blow themselves up to get 72 virgins, which is more than you'll find in all of Oxford, and instead they come home and come back, so if you come back jihadist, right? You're at work a bit, right? If you're in your job for a bit, you probably feel like some days you're just finishing it or killing yourself, but then you realize you're doing that.

What I mean is that even as a threat. a jihad target, reassure me, I think the best way to disarm them is through that kind of humor, making fun of people, you know you've already had one, honey, it's time someone else spoke up. Oh great, well done Dolly, and I love your shirt. You are by far the best dressed woman in the room. The motion has insulted many people in this room. This Union. Thank you very much for that. She was well presented and I still think she will dress splendidly. So thanks. The Union. built for a time like this, except 200 years ago, it was built in a time when university authorities didn't think it was a good idea for little people to have their own ideas because uncontrolled speech could lead to bad things that people might question. things the narrative could be questioned hidden truths could be revealed in 1823 your predecessors began this noble crusade and now it is up to you to carry on your charge and the fight is noble speech is not controversial in itself any more than a meal is controversial delicious nor stale is determined by the diner and it seems to me that the listener, like Celeste, is weaker than ever the ears are now as delicate as rice paper and the Overton window has closed almost like a cat flap you know there was a time when I I was just a stubborn woman in a white suit with patience problems and now I'm virtually Mussolini and I don't care, that's not problematic for me.

I feel comfortable with who I am, but rather it begs me. The question, where does all this end? I ask him where the platform ends. Will this house start censoring individual words? Will they start handing out forms demanding that people not harm those who are weaker or less correct when the agreement is the precursor to the debate what the objective of the opposition will be? Will they have more motions? I ask them or will they just come here to nod like dogs again. I remember the absence and who will be the arbiter of what happens. controversial where is the metric tell me who knows how to measure what is controversial Celeste suggests that we know the difference between good and evil who decides those things who is going to be the one to make the decision who can come here how are their opinions right or wrong or justified no there is a known metric no controversy meter just some rubbish clap meter dependent on mob outrage sometimes the mob fails I present to you the boycott of the Oxford Union whose campaign policy was to get the associated vegans and the unemployed to boycott this space It's known as a win-win or NASA's absence of one less anti-Semite in the room is never a bad thing, but sometimes the angry mob has power and wins.

The recent expulsion of Sir Roger Scruton is a good example, expelled for omitted quotes and information. deliberately set by the weaker side when employers fire workers for expressing personal opinions online and police knock on doors in New Zealand over misconceptions about the Christchurch shootings or force me to sign a document that says what I'm allowed saying what I'm not allowed to say who I can't offend in any room, are we really going to call that progress? Does this really take us forward? What are we so afraid of? They know despite all their curiosities. I trust in you.

I trust that you will know what you think to form your own opinion and I respect that you love me, hate me, hate me, think I am intellectually deficient, agree with me in any case when you choose to leave this debate room, but I offer you the courtesy . to respect your intellectual capacity to decide that and I don't need someone in a position of authority to decide for you what you are allowed to hear. I think that is what they should defend as young people in this

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. Defend the right to listen to people you later decide you don't agree with once someone starts imposing what you can't hear.

How narrow, how small this window will be. How small will be your space, your vision of the world. How small do you want it to be? I fear for the day that someone comes into this union and starts not having speakers on the platform because there will never be a return from that. You're on the precipice, you're on the cusp of something monumental here when you walk through that door, you can't get rid of a long division and voting with the proposal tonight will be the wrong decision. We are 18 23 outside the voices of the common man, as Ann will tell you, seventeen point four million of us who observe our vote annulled.

The voice of the common man is reduced to a whisper in an age of industrial levels of censorship and outrage. This little house needs to roar like a lion and roar. Please vote with us tonight. Thank you so much.