Kareem 'Biggs' Burke On Early Days Of Rocafella, Mase vs. Cam'ron, Air Force 1's + more

moment so Armadale was a Scottish castle so that was the whole story behind it so it took like another two or

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three years and then it probably would have cost another six seven million dollars of investment that we just weren't ready for. to do at that time, so you still owe it to Dale, but no, no, so we left the trademark, oh, I saw you on Angie. Martínez, so you said that you used to play the backseat role because you were distant and didn't trust people hmm and I think what has changed is that these people are still dirty, yes, it is, but now I want to say that before it was different because you already know with the three. about us and being in the music business were all these new relationships that I had to build, so now I'm not in any of those businesses, so I can choose what I want to do now with these sneakers, they said. only 200 pairs with me no, no, it's not that Dada jacket just gave everyone some remake jackets out of reasonable doubt, it's 200, they were made and these jackets here, only 100 were made, these are the jackets we made with Nike, what do you do now?

Think about this, I think it's a full release so you can put it into action at Foot Locker everywhere and try to get it, so the good day, I mean, that was the most surprising thing. I think it's hard for me to realize what's happening when you're in it, you know when you're doing it, but they said besides Virgil, I was the only one who blocked the Nike app and we did it twice Virgil White, yeah , okay, yeah, what's up with the Rockefeller lifestyle right now? They said basically sold out worldwide this was the biggest release so I can put them online and probably sell them for you wait whatever you want hold me back I bought a pen at these springs I have a couple to win okay let me get them back.

It is timeless that all generations feel like they gravitate towards it. I guess you know a lot of what we did, we stayed true to what we believed. You know, I'm saying it wasn't a lot of commitment and integrity that we were. It's not like you hear things now, you know, I will if the stock market is good, that's one of the things that really pissed me off. I wonder if you do something for money, what does that say about you? So we always chose to choose what we did, we probably stretched ourselves by trying to do too many companies, but it was all independent, it wasn't about someone trying to give us a check or hire us, so I think we just stayed true to who. we were what you guys came with the bags oh yeah you don't do it for the back I know but still I mean there are bigger bags too so like Jay he's the same person he always was.

I remember back then if he was getting 10,000 feet, someone offered him 50 and he didn't want to do it, he just wouldn't do it, yeah, you know, I told them a couple years ago, I was like, I have someone they want to pay. , I think so. it was like a million and a half for pushing for two shows for three million dollars in 81 him for each one he's like no, I'm just chilling right now he just never changed anyway you know what's the worst mistake what's the mistake that you made guys made in the industry, if you could think of a mistake that you made, I think probably contractually

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in a reasonable doubt and probably what Kanye because, uh, Leo, he gave us, he gave us, he was saying we could take Kanye anywhere at that time.

At the time I didn't believe in him, all the young people and we went and bought Kanye at two different places and then we were like, man, these guys are idiots, we wanted to keep him here, but if we had taken him somewhere else, we would. You probably already knew that he would have signed a contract. Did you ever like trying to be the mediator between whatever Dame and Jay were going through? No, he wasn't. I don't think there is anything to mediate if you know that things are coming. but it's the same thing when I didn't see Jay for a long time it was like what was going to happen.

I thought we probably laughed and that's the same thing. That's exactly what happened. Same thing when I saw Dame. You know, I mean. It was just laughter. Did you ever feel compelled to work with any of these new artists? I'm sure people have been hitting you and coming to you like they understand that all day I'm not, I don't have. The passion for making music you don't know any

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, I'm glad we created history and that's where it is, but I'm not trying to recreate that why, because you don't think you like the bar so high with what you do. it was all with Rockefeller, I just want to say it was a big business move for me at the time, you know, it wasn't like, damn, I can't wait to get into the music business, you know, that's why.

I didn't really care about relationships outside of that, you know, what it means within the music business, but in general that was why I was one of the reasons I was distant, it was like this was a control. feet and we will use it as a platform to launch other businesses. I was always more interested in two other things. I always wonder about the Masters. A reasonable doubt was that whole thing with which Dame did not want to give up two gyms. You had to participate in that. position, yeah, yeah, there was a situation back then where we were talking about where she would go or how she would go, but we still all own it together, yeah, now, would you ever write a book?

Are you there to incriminate? um, I mean, I've been around doing books before, but now I'm really interested. I am telling a story through a documentary. You already know our three lifestyles. Because I think it's something close that I can tell in a different way, not about all the success. but really about all the obstacles and then you know, telling a story that way, well Jay's always been kind of quiet about that, well he's always quiet until you listen to his music and then you know exactly what he's into and where he is in life. or what he's going through, yes, he talked about his father many times, like now, when you listen to it and you could go back if you really put together each song he talked about, one per specific and sick topic, it's like a complete story in itself same.

For the three of you, every time you decided to sign someone or make a trade move, did everyone have to agree with it? Whereas I have two out of three people who have to say that generally we all agree, probably the only one, but I was later. and we were, uh, we were the old Dirty Bastard, like, we just did it, how was that what you run in Rock because you said you knew Jay was one way, a Dane was another way, when yeah, what period was the biggest one there that we didn't do it? I know, yeah, when they were able to be president was in 2002, so you made him president, you wanted him, this is making president at that time, well, he wasn't really president, it was just something that, you know, he said out loud. , was not at all belittled.

The paper says it didn't actually take it, it was actually supposed to become mm-hmm vibe, so that never happened, yeah, but it was about them because they had a lot under them at the time. I always say that the properties are appropriate and diplomatic, so it's nice. like just passing it on, I mean, we were selling the company anyway, so it's really like a title thing in The Naked they branch out and do their own thing, so what was the cause? With that, I was there, like big, what's going on? I know no, it was nothing with that, like I said, it never happened, so you know the public takes it differently once they follow it and like when we scare away and kill the dynasty and then we'll all meet. and I know like what's going on at Fox 5, it was like the Rockefellers breaking it we looked at each other like what the hell is it, you know, I mean while we were filming a parody, but none of the three of us looked at each other like where is this?

Coming from you know, I mean, you know we didn't even know it was a crazy time, do you think you guys could have created that energy, I don't know, I never, never thought about it being just something that was fun for us. You know me, so you know, we met twice and I was like, Did you say something like? You know, but everything was fine and how did you avoid being on the document on the last page? How were you? I didn't see a glimpse. See you back I didn't even go on tours I went to a show because I think in DC because AI was playing Ross Strickland yeah but I actually hate shows that I don't enjoy I mean I don't know I just never really enjoy shows you know , uh, I think maybe it was the blueprint tour.

I went to that one a couple of shows, but even now people try to kick me out all the time. I just don't enjoy the show. I am the same way. I'd rather just listen to an album I really like and then have to go through the whole process. It feels like work to me. Yeah, I mean, I went to Jaso, in fact, you had two of them the other day and I mean, we had. It was a really good time, it was good to see that and I went to the Meadow show, but every show I went to was like my friend's birthday and now they dress up.

I show you that I have been saying all these sexual assault accusations against our figures in both music now. like Russell Simmons and in the film industry, yeah, I just found out about Russell Simmons. I think well, I mean yesterday and politics. Do you feel like that moment was really like you? I'm sure you've seen some crazy things happen. Do you think this is something that when it's brought up again there should be some kind of repercussions? I'm not sure. I mean, you know, if that case is probably a hole, probably thousands of people are to blame, you know, um, I guess.

It's really up to those women because they're the ones who are really standing up right now and you know, and they point the finger and it's probably something that they really want to let out and say, look, I was treated unfairly and I mean, yeah an apology is old, I think it should definitely be said if someone should resign and no, it's not my place to say, but I guess that's where they are in their life right now, well you did when Dame slapped you, Weinstein, no and not me. Not sure if that will happen but we appreciate you joining us to visit us through the man who never speaks Korean oh man I mean I love that you and Emery do it people are always like why You always wear rock things.

I'm like this. cool, yeah, because of the sports suit, it's not just about the logo, whatever we promote with proper quality, no one is getting really weird, do you like doing interviews? I mean, it's work, you know, I wake up and I look forward to it because It was like when you came. I thought we had to give Biggs on the show. I don't know if you ever will. You already tried it twice, as a memory. He makes fun of a guy who's been trying to avoid being recorded his entire life, yeah. You know right, you can get the line at Barney's.

Ian's line is for Barney to go to Barney's to get the line and we appreciate you joining us, thanks, it's Biggs, the whole Club erectus deal.