Kanye West: 'Jesus Is King' and Iconic Sunday Service | Apple Music

Thanks for bringing us here, man, this place is, this place is spectacular, everything is the same as before, this is the kind of place that you fly over and wonder what's going on down there because you just don't, you don't feel like there's anything in there. of you know a thousand miles and we found ourselves in this isolated place how did you find why I mean why why I mean why here we recorded the last album in Jackson Hole and I was just loo

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for a place here and was looking for a several thousand acre property and Jackson Hole didn't have any property available over 500 acres because I was looking for a place to set up the easy campus, hmm, so we discovered Cody, we came here and when I first got to the ranch I was expecting something really green because that's what I was used to hmm so I didn't like it when I got here and there yeah but by the time I was it was about time. to leave, I loved it and thought: wow, these are actually the easy shades here, actually, that's right, it's actually the palette I'm thinking of that makes me want to put the other jacket back on breathlessly.

I want to wear the fleece it's good you look good and the fleet just feels like you know it says Jesus is king lollipop oh yeah that makes sense even though you talked about it and people were at least 10 or 20 years old now it's more of a future, Well, I want to ask you in 20 years, you talk about the Yeezy camp, what will this place be in 20 years? I have some visions but the more I am in

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to God I just clear my head and wake up emptier every day and then let God lead and just use me however I can so you know you make plans and God laughs so if you If I said the plans I could tell you what would happen six months from now in 20 years, so we're building farms here because of the climate and the soil.

So I have hydroponic cotton, hemp and we are developing our own fabrics that will go from seed to seed and farm to table so we can see. the whole process total sustainability yes, which is a concern for all of us, but the idea of ​​a sustainable future is present in your mind we have a sustained right we do it yes and for me I know where an interview is and we are talking but the reason why the one I didn't want to say in 20 years I would say in six months Naz is that it's not really about talking it's about doing mm-hmm so we're doing it, we're in the process right now.

I can, I could tell you. what am I doing, anything else, yeah, I had a talk, you know, I think the original plan was for you to use your interest in architecture and build something that would give back to the community and expand into the Calabasas community and that. Didn't that manifest itself? One reason or another allows it was that the reason it couldn't happen in California, well it did manifest that I could see him do it mm-hmm, but you know it was in the California building. my domes and they said my dome was three meters too high at that time they took it down that kind of semantics but think about what they are saying mmm your dome is too high we have to take it down so they came to me and said I have to take it down but even before I had the chance, Maya, this is more like my 300 acre property, before I had the chance, they already went to the press with it, hmm, to please and by the way, we will show it to everyone, tell everyone. that we're knocking down your mass, so what did that tell you at that moment beyond really stopped feet?

What does the 10 feet tell you more than anything it was the extra 10 seconds it takes to get a like back when you put something on Instagram that the extra wait time slows people down and slowing people down is one of the most popular ways of control. How many times have you had an idea and they just put you in traffic through bureaucracy, so I don't deal with it? traffic at all in any situation where I'll just be sitting there waiting, I think it's power versus strength. I'm not going to force anything. I do what I have the power to do, aha, and if I have to force it, then.

It's probably not a situation I need to be in when I come here and see the kind of world you're living in here and the kind of environment you're going to create in six months and more. I'm just wondering what and and the transformation that you're going through as a human being because of what it feels like in a city like our life, when you come back, my mind feels a little tight when you drove here you didn't see much extra noise, it was the road, no there was nothing and then just God, yeah, yeah, I mean when you see all the signs, the traffic signs and I say traffic, I'm talking about the signs are actually sex trafficking because if a guy is arguing with his girl or something who went through something with his wife and on one side of the street there is a sign for spirits only alcohol, on the other side this number is called where there is a photo of a woman on a sign that says come to the strip club, yeah , and he goes and spends some money just to sit down. and having someone to talk to at the end of the night, when they close the club, they say how much traffic we had, so there are different layers to traffic in, like for me Playboy was my gateway to full blown porn addiction , my Dad kicked out a playboy when I was five and it affected almost every decision I made for the rest of my life mmm from the age of five until now I have to kick the habit and he just openly presents himself as if it's okay and I Stand up and say you know it's not right.

You should be incredibly aware now that you have reached a point where you are actively turning your back on the coping mechanisms you have been using throughout your life in order to function from that moment on. Until when did you first begin to recognize the idea of ​​being born again and absorbing your faith. Holt, completely, not just as a Christian walking through society, but actually in bondage. When was it approximately? Approximately in April. Well, it was after Coachella. Yeah. I know, yeah, God was using me and it aligned in an incredible way, like literally Sunday was Easter Sunday, yeah, but I remember when the hare died, you know, they placed it on my head that morning before Coachella and then it hit my head and I felt cold hmm and me.

I didn't like him, I disliked him, and then when the guy was dying, I didn't even like how he turned out. It had too much white in the tone, it was like purple and white and I was like no, it's not like that, but I had already planned to have this purple suit, you know, and this purple hair dye, and you know, I wouldn't have the time to sit down and do something like that now because you know I'm using my mind to build what we're building with agriculture? What we are building will bring manufacturing back to the states in the next two years.

Easy, you know we're bringing them back to the states that We're creating factories where we have injection molded shoes. We're going to hire people through prison reform. I don't like to say the word system, but second chance people, hmm, and you know, people gave up on the manufacturer, um, I want. I'm talking about purple hair for a second, but then I want to jump to how we had given up on manufacturing and said let's just like overseas manufacturers because it seemed like it was the easiest thing to do, yeah, and for me as a founder, it's really It is important to bring these jobs one after another to the United States, why I mean what specifically, what affected you, that part of the easy offshore construction process, let's start creatively.

I had this idea for a new boot that we made and actually the design that we made is very similar to something we just saw at a Balenciaga show, so a lot of times, Tim and I, the head designer Blintz Yaga will have Similar ideas thinking we made the 700, they made the triple-s at the same time, so You know, I built a factory in Canoga, California, so I wouldn't have to go to the factories in China, but 30% of the machines still They were in storage and it was never fully built so as not to have to go to China, so the equipment.

I went to China, they are working on this boot. I'm calling it a motorcycle boot at the moment and it's stuck in customs so I haven't seen it yet. I said: do we have a photo of her or don't we have a photo of her? when you have lied, this gentleman Caesar who works in our office will have an idea and he will just put the phone together and mold it right there. I mean, at the end of the day you have a physical idea of ​​what Photoshop once was, so for us. In order to wrap the prototype, we have to wrap your prototype, even what we're doing with the way the spaces are, you know, it's like we're stuck in a loop and we have to break the loop and that's one of the reasons. . why I took off my jean jacket even though I love the color and I put on this fleece because the idea is more in the future than the fabrics that we are looking at, the fabrics, will we use traditional cotton or will we use the fleece that impact It has the dye and we are studying if we can control the color from the seed and that is when you are going to plant because many times you have a separate cotton factory and then they send it to be cut then they send it back to the cotton factory, then they send it to die and we've been talking about things like screen printing to apply color or dipping it in a different way because it looks like nylon is a five story building.

So when we go to see someone, I look at it because I like the Nile, when we have nylon here, I say, oh, wow, we have to have fabrics that don't require five-story buildings. I was going to psyche Enoch before we spoke, he started filming. He was talking about how I want to get his opinion on why it's important to bring manufacturing back to the United States. I mean, I've only been here four or five years, but I mean, I know it's important. the country that there are jobs here and that things are happening in them within the country within the space of the country.

I mean, from my point of view, I know that there is a lot of deliberation about manufacturing and conditions and wages and all kinds of things abroad and, you know, I know from people who talk to fashion people and talk with people in all kinds of industries there is a desire to control that more, to have more control over how people are treated and how things are. fact I mean it's really about control we have to be in control of our own minds our own food our health and our families that's what's going to say well, you know, when I got there I said I didn't know if this was, ya you know, 3000 years with a and 3000 years in the past or 3000 years in the future being on this ranch because it's very isolated and we're really in the elements, aside from this cozy environment, we're in the elements right here, it's just been planted in the middle of space and it seems to me that you want to go back to move forward and use some of these techniques and these ideas to roll and dismantle it, ultimately, here as if Rome is the real silicon.

Valley of humanity, many of the ideas and things we need, yes I have been, they are from thousands and thousands of years ago, there is something we need for our laws, hierarchy of ordered art, what is mmm, what are our personal needs as a human being. and what we need each other most mm-hmm that's why we gather like the antelopes that run around hmm we gather and what's the best way for each family to keep our families together eh, but the cities have been designed to create more problems that can create more industries, so it's designed to make your job 45 minutes away so you can spend time and traffic so cars will wear out more and use up more gas and use up more gas, but to think in communities where the church is at the center of the community and then the school cafeterias gardening and sustainable homes this is the concept I have this is what we this is what Rick Fox and I went to the Bahamas while working on the hurricane houses waterproof right now we're thinking about how to organize the amount of wind that's coming, yeah, this house will be a lot more than what I put here, you know, yeah, so I mean this is not a hurricane, obviously, nobody passes, yeah and one from when he was creating the energy to write, I mean, that's what he was saying before, I mean, let the elements give you what you need, is what you're saying, yeah, God gives us everything we need, what I love about being a Christian.

It's just that I've always been an innovator but it always seemed like all the innovators worked for I don't know and I ran, I heard the term or something like these ideas that there is no God, all this and it only works for the valuation of a company instead of work for rebirth or a rebirth may not find the right word but work for a renewal of the planet and a humility and humanity to understand that we will not destroy the earth, we could destroy the resources that we can destroy. We destroy ourselves and then the earth explodes, so regardless of what's happening on Wall Street and what's happening on the board in trading and what's happening, a Pangea type mentality of putting one thing together , no matter what side you're on.

You're in, you're considered a bad guy, a good guy, everyone wants somethingsimilar and that is for the world to be better for their children, eh, so someone is fighting a war, they want the world to be better for their children and what. We don't realize that, since we are all God's creation, we have much more in common than we think. I think there's something planning in us this idea that you know human nature even. Things I was saying, oh, I saw them in Silicon Valley, but this guy said: I don't want the world to be fixed if I'm not the one to fix it, but you know, we do it, we always put ourselves in the right place. center of trying to figure things out, but I often think that as a society, we lack direction in the unity necessary to do it as one right, we don't always have to be the ones to do it, you know, this interview alone, yeah, could do it. to be there and have these ideas of civil engineering and the use of aqueducts and sustainable gardening and agriculture, but there are people out there who will look at this and say they will come to the table and say, you know what I.

I've done it I've studied this for 10 years I've studied this for 10 years I've studied this for 10 years and it's something where everyone, every Fortune 500 company, every founder has to come to the table and say this is what That we want us to be here in 2012 is a difference between founders, yes, and shareholders, yes, what would you say? The difference is that the founder has ultimate responsibility for the legacy in question. The shareholder has ultimate responsibility for the money, power and business. of the money at the time yeah, so you took a look, look, would you like Gary from Restoration Hardware, they try to kick him out of his company, yeah, and it was that the legacy didn't match the with the with the with the power you know with the money in it and they had to bring it back that's the thing about the founder the founders are special brother yes, that's the living founders yes, you have to honor those living founders those are the great-great-great-great- great great grandparents of what's being built so who are the founders right now you're talking to all of them this interview call me four years ago we did the same thing but the difference was and this is the fun This is how much you've changed in four years.

Four years ago, you did the same thing on camera and said: I need, I need to find, I need support to build my vision easily and I need people to understand my place. In fashion, my place is beyond just making

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and I want to be taken seriously and I am and you said: call me now there's a different mission and that requires you to commit wholesale to your faith, not just like me . I'm a Christian, but I also know who my favorite founder is, so Jack Dorsey is right, why just an incredibly smart visionary mm-hmm created a bank in his third company, one company fell, second company's Twitter created Square and now has a new arm like st. . build that division the bank that allows people to buy shares of companies as big as I'm going to say your company I don't know how to say it today but it's the one that calls 314,000 Warren Buffett's Berkshire Hathaway Jack Dorsey created an application where someone can buy those shares at $1 I'm not actually saying that's not possible somewhere in the stock market huh, I'm just saying that he created the app and that allows everyone to invest.

I mean, that's just one of the things that he did one of the things that he did was he wanted to invest in me from the beginning and he never, he never tried to protect me. Many times I would go out and meet with people in Silicon Valley and it was really like the first. Silicon Valley episode where Kid Rock is like young love Kid Rock and the next conversation is: that's cute, right, he's the most broke person here, so you imagine lies that you would trivialize, you thought trivialized in that experience as an artist who try to play, try to play. tick absolutely and you know now that I am in the

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of Christ, my job is to spread the gospel mm-hmm so that people know what Jesus has done for me, you know I have spread it many things in one moment I was letting them know what haute couture had done for me.

I was letting them know what Hennessy had done for me. I was letting you know all these things, but now I'm letting you know what Jesus has done for me and in that. I am no longer a slave I am a son now a child of God I am free through Christ I am thinking of something I want to say I allow the innovative Christian when you think of the church because it has to stand firm in the word, it loves to be extra traditional to the point of blocking innovation, so when we started the Sunday service we were able to be free where people had doubts and we questioned some people who were now slow in question saying it's not a church, you can't call it a church because you will have a pastor, all these things, it's a choice, well we have a pastor now, but this is a church, I mean, that's the biggest compliment to you. that Sunday service is a church, well let's ask, let's ask North West, she thinks we based our design loosely, not loosely, okay, we saw Rob James Terrell, he's good, yeah, so we and I have the greatest respect, it is unreal for Ortega and also the The head is Zara because I would like to see Raja Rock, right?

I want to steal his infrastructure and the way his office environment, so the church we did, I was a little embarrassed to show James that we had copied his uh. its circular space, yeah, and it didn't have an oculus on top, so we just copied the way he made the benches, he made some lights, but the lights moved slowly and sometimes it looked like it still doesn't work, yeah, so, what is it? It's like a big rounded teepee type setting, yeah, so I showed North a photo of a James Turrell structure that I loved and she said it looks like the Church, uh, that's what the Church looks like to the north. and towards the north, you know?

Last night she was crying because she couldn't go to church when she would be out of town and she would be at school and she said the church needs to be here every Sunday so now we'll just move the church. mainly on Fridays, we've only moved the choir mainly on Fridays and throughout the week, but we will always have it at home because church should be a place that people know they can go and they don't have to take a flight. and pursue it and that's what's part of what I think makes it a church. Another thing is that when North talks about church, she says, "I'm going to bring my friends here and I'm going to dance," tell me someone you know who is in our age group who has more positive memories of their childhood or one Of them I also went to church where people say: I want to go to church and what do you think it is to sit in those pews, the tradition of the four walls?

God does not exist only in four walls God is everything and everywhere so Christian innovation Christian innovators that is the network we are launching for the organization we have now looking for a Christian innovator Christian Avena in short preacher well I'm no longer an entertainer I'm not Here for anyone's entertainment, interesting, interesting, so let me ask you this real quick because I want to go here for a minute. Yes, North is totally invested in you raising your family in this environment now and they support you and bend over backwards. You're also believing in Kim, yeah right, so how about you say you're making this album?

What about those who are talented and bring something special to the table? Who are creatives who inspire you in that sense but who don't necessarily worship at the altar. How is your relationship? with them they changed because you're so driven by your faith now they're still here mm-hmm I think that was King David now I'm not a theologian. I'm a recent convert so I just wanted to say that before we start. sure, quoting or misquoting the structure, so yeah, yeah, you're on a journey, yeah, yeah, that was the journey of this album. You know, there were times when I asked people to fast during the album.

I asked people for this to be radical when I'm about to say I know we can see it, edit. This time was where I asked people to now have premarital sex while working on an album, huh? I know it's one with a shady room, we like what you mean. Don't have premarital sex, you better change your style Magda, you know that right now, but seriously, there is time, so this time I was, you know, so I went to people who were working on other projects and I said: Could you just work and focus on this? and not just because you needed their attention, but because it wasn't in keeping with the spirit of what you were doing, you thought it was at odds with what they were working on, yes, I thought it would tarnish the experience, yes, I thought.

If we could all concentrate and fast, I mean, it is known that when people pray together, families pray together, stay together, when people pray together and fast together, the power increases, so I had some things that were theories of the recent converts coming in and you. We know that many times we are the most critical with fire and brimstone, yes, because we do not know what, we do not know that everything we did was for God, so we have to react to a certain extent. Isn't it a reaction to what you've left behind, so you feel like you have to commit 1000% to something in order to leave that era behind you?

You can't tell other people around you that they have to commit 1000%. % and that's the thing, but God was patient and my family was patient with me when they prayed for me, you know, when they saw me, yeah, at the Pornhub Awards, there are family members that couldn't tell me not to do it all . What I could do was pray, yes, and be patient and it had to happen in God's timing, so for me, when I have people around me that I would like to be where I am on my journey this time, all I can do is pray and be Patient guys, you will only be patient in God's time, but you have lived a well-documented life full of temptations and it has been like that in all your albums and in all your

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and it has been quoted and what is your relationship with temptation now, how do you process that?

Are you capable once you find God to the extent that you have to just turn it off? Is that possible? I think when people have been addicted to something like if you ask someone if they're a drug addict it's like saying, are you still addicted? Well, yes, you come back. actually, like with God, I've been able to overcome things that had total control over me, things that you know, that were played out in the way that I discovered when I was five years old and that were written in all the time when I was on MTV.

Awards with the Timberlands, the ball, my jeans, before the people's rocket ball, my jeans and the bottle of Hennessy, it's as if that were a script taken from the life of a rock star whose mother had passed away. a year before and I said, you know, some people drown in drugs and I drowned in my addiction um, which was sex and that's what drove the ego to fit into the ego, I mean, that was part of feeding the Ego, money, clothes, cars, accolades, the advent of social media, a Twitter account, mm-hmm, paparazzi photos continue. to Paris Fashion Week all of that is overwhelming, I mean we need to clear your mind to the degree that you are right now and you sit here in Wyoming making music that is spiritually fulfilling for you and hopefully for millions of Other people, you know what it was. not only was he addicted to sex, he was also addicted to inspiration, but there's only one, you know, thank God, they both served the same purpose to some extent and I mean, let me qualify that statement, okay, addiction, whether they're six drugs, alcohol is a coping mechanism that is designed to fill a space in you that cannot be filled, an insatiable hole, right, requiring more and more is not using it, inspiration, maybe I mean more ambition, do you?

Isn't that doing the same thing then? Well, they said. You know that many successful men had a high sex drive, right? Who said that, you know yeah, yeah, but when I mean inspiration junkie, yeah, it could be that sex could be an inspiration, but also just a design image, you know? a jacket that I wanted to design the image of a car an image of a house I was addicted to these types of images that appeared as if people said that our architecture is my porn hmm and people can be addicted to architecture mm-hmm people, I mean a big addiction is work yeah a lot of workaholics let's call it and what about the men who say men and women who say hey you know I'm working really hard at this job to make a better life for my kids and then you look up and they had done it?

They didn't spend their life, when exactly, when do you live your life with your real children, we find that balance, you see, we are going to make a better life for my children, but when are you going to spend your life with your children? Yes, and it really is like you have to work for that fourth house. Know? Did you have to work for the well? Didn't I have to do it? There is a balance between family and the calling that I specifically have to protect and take. take care of my family and make sure that the power that God has put in my hands does everything I can as a parent to give them the best opportunity for them to be as successful as they can be.

No,that was very, specifically reflective. answer yes because I'm just saying normal life no, I'm just saying no, I was very jealous oh oh and I understand that I and I said it as a father because they also have a mother, that's true, so it's the barrel and it's about the fourth house . about the environment that you create, ultimately, they are learning well, yes, and also the environment because of my position in the world, the environment that I report for other people, you know, we have reported on a successful celebrity marriage, a marriage successful interracial where the husband was the darkest color within America, we've reported some things that I didn't like now, where you know, I was literally up there trying to get my daughter to dress Rihanna, it sounds crazy when you say it out loud, but yes I really think it's like yours.

My daughter was walking around in a slip dress. Culture was my god mm-hmm because and this was documented in Keeping Up with the Kardashians and in a really interesting scene to watch the dynamic between you and Kim where she finally said you. We were complicit in this experience, yes, and now you're asking me to change and get away from the cameras, that's another example of what you're talking about. I would not do it. I always had a paparazzi version that has been documented. I also have and have also had an aversion to cameras being on at all times.

There is a balance of when we have to close on Sundays, but the idea I was going to say is that I thought I was the God of culture, but actually culture was my god and who invented culture, culture is cultivated by who, so if you were to think about what culture is today, what are some of the most important things that it includes and all the main points of what could make culture the leaning culture, I mean. kneel at a football game wear expensive clothes rap about just rap and that's it make money from rap make money from basketball before we get to the point can we name some other things that you say are part of the culture buy jewelry what are they some of the other things we see in the culture using social media as a very important part of the culture to agree with or the culture you have to use social media what other things is okay now let me get to the point right now? none A lot of these things that you have to be involved in to agree with the culture are owned by people, so who designed the culture, a lot of people would say that you are instrumental in driving the culture and that you own your own companies.

I have inspired that change, which is inspired now, but did you know that this is where I was going when I named all those things? You didn't name yourself, you didn't name yourself and yes, that's a very valid point mm-hmm I think that's changing, I think the culture is going directly into the hands and influence now of the mute, the new founders, I mean, when Chad said not to sign anything, his tour was canceled like next week mm-hmm spiritual warfare, okay? let's talk about it you say it and God is changing God is using me God is using me to show off I think he as you know God is similar to him he is saying he wanted the loudest voice and the and the one who made the most noise timid to cause the biggest impact yes, I wanted to brag it's like Matt now let me take this let me take this character never type kanessa Nebuchadnezzar was the king it was Babylon mm-hmm no Nebuchadnezzar was the king of Babylon and he He looked at all his kingdom and said I did this and God said Oh really, you did this, it sounds a little similar, right, I'm standing on the top of the mountain talking about Jesus, I say okay, I did this.

I'm a god now. I am a God and I was able to talk to Jesus at the end of my program. I had a guy dressed as Jesus at the end of my show standing on a huge mountain, yeah that's it, and that huge mountain first, why do they make money off of that? I'm carrying a mountain and God said he was fine, Kanessa was never diagnosed with bipolar disorder. feet to wash myself to control myself let me tell you one you're saying they took it down because it was based on them considering what you were doing was crazy no that's not what I'm saying but I see you took it that way no I was just comparing in my dome and saying: this guy who can go to the telethon, this guy, we can cancel him from a radio and yet 20,000 kids come to see him and he is not completely following the rules of the system and is still the most relevant, we could take him off the cover of the time, we couldn't make covers for them on purpose, we could just take away the press, no publicist, Vic, do that and you still have the issue. a sought after brand on the planet that means number one, GZ, number two or flight number three, Adidas and then the other three are like Adidas, Nike and Louie Vuitton.

I don't know which was which, but number one was easy and all. the others that I am closely associated with in some way each of these guys that our founders now have to look at me I every founder on the planet there will be a time when I will be president of the United States and I will remember I will forgive, but I will remember anyone founder who did not have the capacity to culturally understand what we were doing. An interesting tone, although I will forgive and remember, it is as if it is a threatening and forgiving hybrid.

Oh, what am I supposed to forget, no, you said you'd forgive, but what does it mean to remember? If you forgive, it is not forgiveness. If you forgive yourself for the life you lived up until six and seven months ago. Do you still remember all the things you always remember? meeting and interaction that I have had with Jack Dorsey and I will always remember my meetings and interactions with Mark Zuckerberg and they have been completely different mm-hm with social media people are brainwashed the people they are addicted to are them today cigarettes when cigarettes first came out and Edward Bernays created the Torch March of Freedom so that women would feel empowered yes smoking cigarettes this is from the center of yourself and shows that Edward Bernays was Freud's cousin , so you know, I don't know if I should even talk more, it's like you have to go.

I want to say so much more to ask you. I just thought the greetings are much bigger now. Look, it could be five more years, from what I understand, you could be president by the time I speak. you, next, yes, we will be in the selection order when you are president, you write, no, we will do our interview, we will do an interview, I don't do many interviews anyway, Donna will see you again. I'll probably do more interviews when I'm president. 2024 is still a thing, that's still the time frame that we're working on, you're working on some things right now, so yeah, what I'm saying is that people are addicted to social media, people invest more in a photograph on social networks than in real life.

One of the reasons I came to this ranch is to get out of anyone who is in a corporate environment, black or white, there is bureaucracy. at every level there are rivalries on teams at every level there are rivalries with the coaches with the owners with the shareholders with the founders and everyone goes home to their families and wants their sons and daughters to be as successful as they are, if not better. , you know, we. We are all people, yes, so this is to point the finger and say this person is doing well and this person is doing bad.

You know, I'm just giving you a flat opinion about what I currently see and what I feel and the pain that I have in my life I suffer, I suffer and I appreciate suffering because we can feel a little of what Jesus felt when we suffer, but the Social media makes me suffer, I suffer because of it and by saying this out loud, I'm sure there are other married men who suffer similarly and who are happy to hear me say: "Oh yes, I'm suffering well." I just married men because social media encourages women in particular to post content they wouldn't have posted. when I sent referring to your sex addiction, yes I wouldn't, yes I could definitely deal with my addictions but when I was younger and wanted to see something like that I had to pay someone older to go to 7-eleven and buy .

Now I have friends, they have kids who didn't finish grandma's high school. It is completely available. There is no NSFW. I'll load it right now on this computer and load some things and you. I'll be like whether that's NSFW or not, it only covers part of it and you know there are people like a God fearing Christian innovative billionaire founder, no one is going to take away my opinion. They have given me my opinion. my whole career I didn't kill my career how many times am I going to start giving my opinion now people are no longer there at any time people talk my career is over mm-hmm no one is going to control my opinion and one of the things in which people I've been a little off the hook was all this oh, it's crazy.

I look at him, he's crazy. That had to silence my opinion for 3 or 4 years, but God has the power. Jesus is the force that restored sanity. Let me tell you. How did following God when you're gone bring me some sadness? Can't you be on social media literally as we speak? Just something more like this, whether it's like focusing the energy here or going somewhere else and just doing it somewhere else. room, but something, but I'm not trying to get on your ass, so I'm just saying I'm like this, I know, but I go into this transcendent state on this day that he arrived, where, like, oh, I'm actually reading Larry's mind, what is Larry?

Think while you talk. I'm actually reading Josh's mind. I'm reading mr. My guys, but what exactly happened is an example of something on the Internet that took, oh, distracted alcohol: what we're talking about when people pray together and they're in a room together, you can think things through when that energy builds up. because artists are like a lake, we reflect what is in front of us, so if you are in front of an audience, the audience is broader, you could say that everyone raises their hands in the air, yeah, that wouldn't be appropriate if you wanted walk in as a person sitting at the breakfast table, you like it, everyone thought, yeah, I'm just a person, what I'm saying is you're a reflection of the room you're in, where you are, yeah, you're absorbing and absorbing. that energy.

Try to translate that energy and create something great, yeah, you know, what I want, actually, that reminds me of something. When I saw Pablo tour on stage and saw the way the people moved beneath him, it felt like worship and I felt the reaction. like an icon, an idol worship, it didn't feel like a normal show and I wonder now that you're putting your energy into something, channeling it into something bigger than yourself, how hard it is to look back on, just reflect. for a minute, how hard is it to be on stage when all that energy is coming at you and you don't have a place to channel it, like faith, exactly this point I was making when you're not serving God.

You're serving everyone else, you're serving your ego, you're serving your bank account, you're serving your legs, look, you know, serving your wife and kids, yeah, that's a good thing, sir, you're serving your management. or the people you're managing you're serving you're serving Hollywood you're serving your reputation you're serving the responsibility of your race you're serving you know there's a so the thing is, I would say with what I do with music, I'm a great chef, I'm like a five Michelin star chef, right, what I do with music, so imagine that level of chef having to serve at ten different restaurants, all at the same time, and driving different places that those meals sound like. a road to bankruptcy a road to bankruptcy a road to TMZ quotes a road to the world I just don't understand anything about putting up with your friends yeah, a fight with your friends and people just don't understand the main thing is look, we're living in darkness We live in a time when people are dying of hunger.

We live in a time when people of their own race kill in the streets. We live in a time where one in three African Americans is being locked up. We live in an age where there are children held at the border, some with their real current parents, some without their real parents. We lived in an age where houses don't hold up during hurricanes and there are companies worth trillions of dollars around the world. world with geniuses just working on how to only improve their product we live in an age where someone could be fired for what they think if they say it out loud that's the age wake up it's 2019 this is where we are now This is what Dave Chappelle wanted to say: stop cooling art, artists are supposed to express themselves so they can have that eternal three-year-old at all costs.

People say, “Oh, this is going to kill your brand, but my brand is expressing how.” I'm sorry if it's in line with what you thought the brand was even two days ago, a smart man has the ability to turn around and say I'm thinking of something different now. I don't believe this because this was the culture I don't think North should use. crop tops just because she had ease with a slip dress when she was 2 years old. I think and feel differently now that I am a Christian, that I am the founder of aAlbums keep going. is to spread the gospel on this ranch, whatever key we use the ideas behind this to shred the gospel, show everything that I do and be more respectful of my body as a temple, yes, you know, even like you know I was.

To think that everything you know, just using my mind and running this company was good enough, no, I need hmm, you know, look at my diet, a happy ending, which changes everything. I didn't order that frozen margarita today at UH during lunch, do you drink it all? I know I had stopped drinking completely when I first converted and now I will have a drink. It's just mm-hmm. What they told me is not to get drunk because I was thinking, man, it's just the taste of alcohol. It's a sin to taste alcohol on your lips I'm just trying to exercise like when you came to be well so check it out so yes this yes yes becoming a born again Christian is a supreme reflection on the previous life as being a sin, no everything in life was a sin, but when you're born again for the first time, that's what you have to address, you have to take a look at the big picture and almost untangle it from that work back from that right, like what is a sin and what is it?

That's not it, it's an intense experience, we're just yes and then you realize that you still sin. I started indulging in curses one day. Oh like there's a video game like wow oh this is now people say you know God doesn't. I don't have a scorecard I gave myself a Christian scorecard yes and I would like today yes It was like I reached an 80, yes, oh yes, 90. I reached a 90 and at certain times I talk to someone on the phone about Manny to know if my Christian score is lower, I already like it because you're trying because you're trying to be the best Christian you can be from day one, you always want to be, but I mean, like you know what I'm having, I'm trying to wake up this technology for myself, but you've always been a Christian, but you've done a complete complete. commitment, so it's all or nothing from day one and then you have to work on whatever is appropriate from that point on, but it's never all or nothing because you're a human being, right, right, yeah, I guess I'm getting an are.

Are you allowing the use? Are you being kind to yourself during this process? Are you allowing skill in this process? Yeah, but then I'll regret it because I'll know, I'll watch some. I'm supposed to be searching the Internet, right? and how do you process that now blame and then this route is no I'm saying oh no no no there's no shame now that's something that Christ has eliminated is shame what happened is that it doesn't work like Karma God is so merciful that it's not directly connected so this is a thought in my mind it is incorrect and quite arrogant to think that God would immediately punish me for knowingly failing the ego speaking again yes the ego speaking but I give you just I give you an example of it I know let's see if I commit a I swipe and watch something pornographic online and then the next day I have a big argument with my wife or some of the designs don't come straight back to the office or a song, we miss a foul or something. someone else showed up at the studio, you know this is wrong, but this ego and arrogance makes me think, oh, it's because I did that right and then I installed it, yeah, I try to correlate it, but that's not God.

God doesn't work like that. We, we don't know how God works, but I'll say it again. I'm sorry for those crazy people, that interracial. I thought that's the closest thing to me as to why you have fences here, but how far do you walk? How far do you walk? let yourself be carried away by these artists, go for a 30-40 minute walk, you could walk for days, bro, don't ever be tempted to do that, don't ever be tempted to just like it if you want to come back, just see what it would be like. be like just walking, walking away into the distance, you own everything, yes, it's only for hours, now I'm used to having other things on my agenda, but isn't that what you like?, you like these liberals that we are running around trying to do what we can help the world, but ultimately this is a process.

You would try to slow things down and find space to do it, to give yourself some space to think, have you been able to do that? Yes, disconnect like this, yes, well. You know, the most space I had to think was when I went to the hospital, yeah, in 2016, yeah, I'm not sure if the wind blew it up, but I asked you, I told you, do you ever take the time to walk? land and just think and surely do to some extent you bought this place and redesigned the way you live and to find space to think and excuse me and you said I'm one of the only places that The place we thought you should really think about was the hospital in 2016 and I'm wondering where I had more space um to think about what came out of that experience, you know, in terms of processing one of the things that were written. the pamphlets I was right about one of the things I wrote was to build a church in Calabasas so we were at Sunday service and we were drifting from the happiness of your memory mm-hmm no I would die without it now I would I and my wife showed me where I wrote the sample p.m.

The dawn dies without you so one of the things that happened when I went to the hospital when I started reading the Bible and I started writing and copying and writing Bible verses and a person came to my house who was not a Christian and told me . Come on and then 30 minutes later he was handcuffed and I was headed to the hospital. Now this person may have saved my life because when you are in an episode you can jump off the side of a balcony and you can stab your high presence of mind. No, yes, you could do a lot of things when you're like this, but one of the things people do now is try to discriminate my mind and my thoughts because of that moment.

It's like someone you know went to jail and now they're working in an office and they're having an argument with someone who they're going to blame for the argument, the guy who went to jail, so I still have radical thoughts, visions, future ideas. and sometimes when I say them out loud people might just call it out and say oh you're crazy no and I'm like I don't believe it because this is someone who has suffered from mental health issues throughout my life hmm and you know, I really had to develop tools to be able to do that. protect my family because I can definitely find myself in a very, very dark place.

I'm grateful for those experiences in those thoughts, oh absolutely, to be able to have come this far to go to places where people say only ayahuasca and different things can take you. but naturally, being able to think that far ahead and connect and, as you know, I feel another thing related to me wearing the hat that liberals love to do is to say that this all relates to mental health. Your story is meant to help. Is he like my wife? or go places and people will say, "Okay, he's doing it, he's okay," like Kobe Bryant has won five championships and has a lot of injuries, his story is not pulling an Achilles tendon and all the subsequent stories of how he pulled out an Achilles tendon. but the same press that doesn't want to do press and doesn't want to say hello easy is Google's most brand and this guy is a billionaire this guy is a black Trump supporter this guy is they want to start the conversation it will always be about mental health and I love it the fact that I can show the world that I'm sitting here and I've been diagnosed that I've been put on medication to make me fat on purpose because after I didn't want to take the medication, I Okay, we have this version, I'm not making you fat, they're trying to kill the superhero so I'm here to show that someone who has been diagnosed can still drive and be the founder of a multi-million dollar organization can still be in service to Christ can still be a good husband and a good father.

My life does not end with this diagnosis. No and I will not be stigmatized. I'm going to say one thing and discriminate. I don't feel it. I say wonder from my perspective. I've said this publicly too, it's not really private, many of my friends know when I heard about the children's project that it goes to in particular, that project was one of the first things I heard that not only removes the stigma of having mental health issues, but like you said, put a layer on it mmm-hmm I gave it a power. I think we are the mint where people get confused and align it with mental instability, as it is, if I may say, like the distribution of information, oh you.

I can like when I tweet a hundred tweets or when you go out and do it all in two weeks and everyone sees this flurry of activity and it's like three things come to you every day that you're distributing information wisely, so people, I think their natural instincts , if I can speak for the people, they must leave. Alright? There seems to be a lot of disruption and instability around you in this short period of time. That makes sense? Yes, but I've never been well. I've always been awesome so they want me to operate in an acceptable format um and that's not the format I'm in and I mean the biggest thing is always the defense you just said okay but it's not okay it's amazing HSP highly people sensitive, that is, people who can't stand nonsense.

I can't sit with something in my spirit for more than a day. I can't sleep with it. I have to express it. That? When I was, you know me. and Drake had a disagreement and refused to talk to me for six months, that was very painful because expressing myself as a form of therapy for people with mental health, you see, I expressed myself. I've been waiting to express myself for a long time. and then the expression came out completely people who are locked up many times they were speechless the expression went to I'm about to shoot someone or I'm going crazy because I have no way to feed my family or my gang, he said I'm short respect and that if I don't go and kill this person then they will look at me like I'm not strong so a lot of things with people are driven to not have a conversation until the end another thing I was thinking about when I use the bath during the day well I take it early right now even though I was peeing because it pissed me off is when the media says Kanye defends his support for Trump.

I don't know, I was in court. I don't have to defend anything, it's not a defense. You know, if every time someone asks you a question, you try to say the right answer, your whole life is a test and when did you have the most anxiety in grammar? high school there is no application on test day so your whole life becomes this test I'm not trying to tell the right answer I'm just doing what I feel my mom said to try is to fail no if Woods could close that's right and we simply are and it is like this it is simple this is how and this mentality is not to be defeated yay cannot die yay cannot be buried there is nothing there in fact there is no enemy there is me my only only the enemy is a concept this is like a game , think about it, you play a video game, there is an antagonist, but it wouldn't be a game unless there was opposition.

I'm not trying to play ping pong alone, hmm, so they set new goals where there was once we were like. Okay, Drake is your rival now. I think I think more about Bernard Arnault than Drake because I might have thought he got culture by taking Virgil, but it's like no, now you have a thief from my territory, you came in and took one. A person who is African American is African and that could be the face to draw Louis Vuitton on the side of the back and make people look at Instagram and want to buy expensive items that are of the culture, so to speak, to give it too much thought to things. no, it actually came into my territory, how did that make you feel initially when that happened at the beginning, not when you hugged, you know, at the fashion show, which was one of the best things about that year, that moment, the moment when he?

I left and that happened. How did you feel? You know, I felt bad. I felt like it was supposed to be me. It was Louis Vuitton. People still call me Louis Vuitton Don when I walk down the street, but I took a brand. something that someone else had invented and is in control of was completely up to Bernard, who I wanted to emerge as the Louis Vuitton Don because he bought the handbag brand he came into, hired Marc Jacobs, created the industry, innovated the luxury industry. he brought people to fashion shows and a couple from Paris.

I mean, Bernardo is one of my heroes, he's probably my best living hero, and then far below that, but it's not enough because he has the taste, he has the sensitivity. He got the man Manus to create the idea of ​​even wanting Louis Vuitton, it was just an old bag brand and he bought it and then he had the means to get this guy from New York, Marc Jacobs, to come in and wrap it up and bring it to the streets with Sprouse, Pharrell and I and we let it go Wow, you know, let Kim Jones do the ultimate and now hire Virgil like I really admire what Bernard has done.

He also offered me a deal five years ago when we had our first GZ show. He shook me. Hand said we never shake hands again and then we canceled the deal three months later and that had an effect on me going to the hospital mmm-hmm because my first adidas collection that had like these pants from the first season had lineups, the second collection never arrived. because I had to dignify theclothes with adidas so no adidas no Louie Vuitton mm-hmm and for me with I'm wrapping Drake stay right down the street I'm designing I don't have production I haven't done it before no one wants to help me.

I'm tweeting on season 3, season 4, the show was 45 minutes late and LeBron wanted to tell me like they did to him what they did to LeBron when he said he was going to the heat. My wife was robbed in Paris. and our control, yeah, next thing you know I'm in the hospital and I have to wear that for the rest of my life, but take a bat as a badge of honor because it's a don't treat me like a celebrity, you always know your human being first yes one one 100% and then of all those who could have chosen no one they did, they got one of the best men at our wedding mm-hmm and what I love when I hugged Virgil is that he showed me that actually we're all playing on the same field and he went and ran that field goal, he ran that touchdown for all of us because there was a time when we were all crazy, there was a time when it was fish sticks and South Park, now we all I want to stop at a fashion show, but he really marked it by being that designer, he validated it, he validated it and when I said before I always thought it was supposed to be me, I always was and it's supposed to be me, but I'm not. .

He's supposed to be working for Bernard hmm I'm supposed to bring manufacturing, you know, back to the United States. They did me a favor, but I'll tell you what. Now Bernard meets my new Drake. I'll tell you, I'm not even thinking. I want all the blessings Drake up I'm an ordained minister if you want meat like when he finally gets married I was like Aubrey I'm going to have ups and downs be good that should be good at that yeah yeah sorry I'll give it to you and everything like that I if not we got the memo that I'm now I'm not good at holding my breath hold my tongue very bad at that very bad uh yeah, but it was supposed to be me that way, but God had a bigger plan is that this thing is so much Instagram, Jesus' Instagram where the little boy is holding on to a teddy bear, there's an Instagram where a little boy is holding on to a teddy bear and Jesus has this huge teddy bear behind him. back, but you don't want to let go of that teddy bear that you've known your whole life, that's what I was talking about, tradition, you don't want to let go of what you think is supposed to be and there's God's.

I have a bigger plan for you, that's why I didn't even want to be, you know, presumptuous and arrogant, almost blasphemous, to try to tell you where this would be in 20 years, um, you know, I'm open, hey, God, use me Please, please, Jesus. Christ use me to the fullest if it is in your will he has given me all these abilities like it was time so I sat in my house and looked at how beautiful my house is and a taxable vort did it and I'm looking . in the designs I'm looking at the museum looking at what we do with the design of shows like the floating stage and the mountain hmm and I'm thinking why God, why couldn't I work for Bernard oh no and God it's like why do I need you to work for me this is what sway was talking about and now i used to say how sway now i can say now sway now sway now it's time that's what this is all about yes we're going to like it well you could have given me an interview this way I love you old respect I know I'm a fan of my teammates but it's been five years waiting to talk to you again and I think about it and I think about how you were forty-two million dollars in debt when I spoke the first time, well, it wasn't the first time, you know, the The first time we spoke was long before I asked you what, no, I was memorable to you, but not to me, well, I remember it and I'll really put up with it. to that name, okay, the conversations come, the most memorable question I asked you, the first interviewee was: what rhythm do you want the night to have? your answer was Benjamin's, it was because of the question that was Quebec, just remember that you know it wasn't because you asked me it was because I didn't, it's because I asked so we met for him you found yourself with a million dollar debt you were yelling at him people to notice you and give you and support you show something Faith, yeah, I'm saying Mark Zuckerberg is looking for aliens, hey, see one right here, yeah, yeah, and now you're in this and you're on the cover from Forbes, they forgot to mention it, since you're a billionaire, which is why I made up the term sent. for millionaire they can have a special twist, it was a special term that ensures that the last line says and maybe one day he built, he will be a billionaire like his little sister Kylie, you know, that line was the reason I did the interview in the first . right place because it was a yes, yes, it's putting it in a stop, you know, and they manage to put that last thing in there and it was like taking that red hand, look, we'll have fun, these are the liberals, they'll be making a V , baby, yeah, because the liberals like eighty percent of the press think about it, you know, you got Tom Brady, you know he plays sports, you got the liberals in the paper, you know there's a fight, it was a big one. fight between them, at this time there was no There is a lot of communication between the left side and the right side mm-hmm.

I'm saying there's a fight and that's why you found yourself in the middle of it, because there are a lot of people on this left side who you call liberals. who you inspire and give to us you have given us greatness and I know that's not why you do it and I know it I'm liberal I'm 200% ER mm every situation I understand my wife does something that makes me I'm angry I understand your perspective of why you did the right thing, but it still makes me angry. I feel and understand 100% why people have their position on the left.

I 100% understand people on the right and the problem is communication that people are not communicating and people are being silenced is what I thought was the harshest thing to say if you are black, don't talk to this person . I'm going to talk to everyone while I have air in my lungs as I would end up saved - hey Putin how are you hey Kim Jong how are you how are they anyone I will talk I will have a conversation with anyone with respect and love I loved it respect for everyone I have no admiration for everyone but I have love and respect mmm-hmm Jesus is king Joanna tell the people what's coming in dissimulator oh yes Sunday service album Jesus is born on Christmas mm-hmm he's coming you'll continue to build from here out and I know you only think with six months in advance, well, that's what you said before.

I don't buy that piece. Actually, I know you might have a goal, but I think you probably have a broader idea about what this becomes and where you'd like to see it when. finally you find a place for yourself we are at peace I will continue to be used by God I do not love suffering no one loves pain but I am still in the good times and in the suffering I praise God because I experienced the blessings and I also experienced the lessons. I am so blessed by everything I have been through to still be here and after 15 years of making an album of work that the paintings still inspire me.

I want to hear them. I want to hear them. listen to this I want you to know that music is my job that's why I'm releasing the album serving God and all I can do is my job that's why I'm here that's why I'm on the planet is to be in service in the fear, the love and service to God, barri was, you know, all summer, he came and played me a new album playing Solange's album, then you know, he was just playing new artists and we were working on clothes and he was fine . the clothes are good and it's fine, cool, this is a multi-million dollar company that's cool, being gay, music is your job, it should work, this is what I think, if I stopped making music, not because it promotes the brand, I think that because God has given me a gift that I pray for and so many people love it that if I stop doing it he might start taking away other things because who am I to say oh I have these shoes now or oh we are building these hotels now or oh yeah, you know?

Now I have a family, so I'm not going to make music, I'm not going to give people the new ideas that I have, I really had to do it and you know, it's fun, it's a good job, it's something fun to do and I do it. I quite enjoy it. It's as fun to do it now as it is to do it in Hawaii or to do it in Paris or to do it at the Mercer or to do it with J or to do it for J that's a good question, well I'll tell you something that I quite enjoy. sound of my own voice and apparently from the broadcasts that billions of other people make too, but that's not what it is, I just want to make that sound bite, but go ahead, is it fun or is the job just different?

Do you know when? you were wearing the backpack when you were sitting there doing it or the footage of you in the studio just makes you literally throw up these beats like he's just creating stuff spontaneously like no one else can on this keyboard and making these hits and coming. Stick with this stuff, it's a lot of fun, I mean, we sat here in front of ten chirps, we had a little fun, we got to drive on the lake, we got a lake look, it's making music, this is fun, your job is what I'm saying this is part of my job, this is what I do in the middle of my job, like when I hand over the new device we need, we're still working on a name, but the portable player to my daughter and she is touching. and then he lowers his voice and raises his voice, his eyes light up, this is feeling his eyes light up the way Jay's eyes used to light up when I would come over and play him a beat and that meant everything at that moment. that was all you were fighting for at that moment that validation now the validation comes from your family well I don't know if it's a validation since it's more like it's not about validation, it's about the light when you see the face Jay's light up when I would. she plays those beats and now I see North's face light up when she's playing with the device we just created, what is this device?

He continues talking, we go back to the studio, we will play it, but the ticks in general are dark music, it has more of the capacity to be light similar to Tesla. My goal is to illuminate the world, to be a light, to be a beacon and to make other people experience joy through what we create, whether they are holding the product we created or experiencing a Sunday service or when I used to come to the tours and seeing the imagination of someone up there with a mask is not about entertainment as it is not about entertainment it is about imagination witnessing the imagination and feeling good feeling knowing that things are possible knowing that the things you feel are possible, that that's my job, that's what I'm here to do things that you say, oh, I didn't know that, that's why we have to go and take this shirt out to the lake so you can literally see this. drives by the lake and that they might do that and I think I think it's good that this presenter knows how to compare these moments and also the way that people listen, one reason I love doing listening sessions is to be close to all these people here and the way they felt when they first saw the light, yeah we see the light, you know, whereas when an album is like a massive release you can hear the views coming back or hear the people Driving down the street that feels good, yeah, there's a common element in music that streaming helps and actually takes away a little bit, like video killed the radio star.

Streaming Killed Video Star HSP, hypersensitive people, yeah, never heard that term before, do you think? That is what you are most misunderstood and the way you have been perceived and treated is that people ignored you or perhaps did not understand your sensitivity levels, yes, me too, but I also fell as a camouflage if the The system that supported Kanye West had any idea that I would make it to that telethon or make it to Taylor Swift's stage or become the founder of this three billion dollar company. They would have injected him with drugs much earlier. They would have tried. do something to stop it sooner, but it's too late, so it's been camouflage and even right now, as I speak, there is a surge of arrogance because I have been diagnosed with mental health problems because I am black because I have been placed in this situation. entertainment field because I've had a red half from all these different things that he does.

You know when I talk it's a dog whistle because people who need to hear it hear it and people who don't need to hear it. that should be afraid of him there are too many fanatics they are also too fanatic Annamma says too many fanatics because the use of incorrect English is also common it is also a camouflage yes, there are too many fanatics to believe that it could happen Bernard Arnault does not believe that the boy who was carrying a backpack He'll be standing in front of Jay-Z, the greatest rapper of all time mm-hmm, think about that and a little kid in the baseline studio with a backpack mmm someday he'll be on the other side. on the other side of the stadium in front of one of his heroes Bernard Arnault is one of my heroes your dad is your number one hero yes and then Bernard where did you talk about your dad before?

Certainly not, we've never talked about your dad before oh man, yeah. dad, he has a water purification center, he doesn't know any rap, he stayed in homeless shelters less than10 years just helping people, he's a Christian marriage counselor, he graduated, you know, I met my mom in college, he's like and now he's old. 40 at 42 as many artists at 40 as Tesla stop having sex at 40 da Vinci said I'm not going to paint rich women anymore mmm I'm going to build bridges mmm at this age this is the age at which you start to see you don't even You've seen when they make books about what we're going to do, you'll look at the sound and you'll also say yes, sound, it's all these different things, we haven't really experienced what the paintings are yet.

You talk about being in prayer like what Allen says, so who needs practice? We don't have choir practice, we have choir growth, we've increased the amount of courts I've heard just in the last year as a free time even when I was making five albums in a row, it was like old, it's like LeBron James on the treadmill , you know, that's, you know, those five hours were part of my rehabilitation after I got out of the hospital, think like when I was at Nike. When I was at Nike there was no virtue, there was no drag, there was no Travis, that was like yeah, graduation and then when I left, you know I had a brand name antisocial social club, they did the Anti Calle Calle Club. and Nike other versions to be airtight Kanye someone is going to see this and they are going to start - it was going to be an official anti Kanye club Kanye, trust me, okay and they created the Pro Jesus Jesus Club and then they will create a pro Jesus Jesus Club.

We're going to make bread Jesus Jesus, but I'm going to the hotels and everything you're going to build well for man and build it for us, other people's families, not just not build it for us for everyone, just innovate thinking why that plug It has to fit into that wall like that wallet. What is this room so far away? Why is the design of this sofa like this? What is your life's work now? From now on, is your life's work? Creatively, that's what I'm interested in expressing. but it will only be expressed if it is in God's will because if God wants me to build these factories, they will be built and if God says that is not what I want you to do, yes, yes, I want you to leave, I want you to sit down. in jail I want you to go to Sydney Africa for this time for this reason I love you I don't know what God has planned a handover of control in your whole life it's about control exactly think about that it could happen from being they said whatever God has planned that I am ready to be of service to God and whatever he has planned for me thank you for inviting us here this is the place this place is super special you know, yeah, so let's walk back, I shoot one machine. please, some music and then I'll go ahead and finish the album oh yeah, part two, that's fire, this is like, yeah, this is crazy, this is one for the ages, this is crazy, like this I guess you know the anticipation for the album to come.

We should focus a little bit on some of the people who have contributed to it because you know there are other people who are involved. We just talked about a couple of producers who have been involved and the clips are on the record. and people know about that and getting those two back together, you know creatively, we know they have a relationship, but putting them on a record could only be on this project, right, yeah, that's what everyone thinks, this is the only one . no malice would come and it would end in right, yeah, right, so can you talk to us about the process of putting that into it and taking that talk to a place where the clips come together for this project?

Mmm, it was just beautiful, I mean, I had uh, them, them. We were here or working on that album just five months ago. I remember saying I'm not even going to rap and then it was serious that you were interested in rapping. I didn't know how to rap for God, hmm, I knew. You know, so, I don't remember any malice, feeling like I would write you a rap for this, you're going to rap on this because I'll write you about it, he said you're going to rap, it was a paraphrase, he, I'm fine. Okay and he must have finished, you know, he must have been elated at the idea that you could relate to what he had established.

Also absolutely yes, he just sent out a verse right now, the second verse of this song. I'm playing you with the victory in the song called Glory. I just sent you an idea for the second verse, so as you see, we finished on verses tonight and good, and to keep writing new stuff absolutely like this is a big victory for the kingdom to get Kanye back home. from going from Jesus walks to I love it and they say I give it to you God I tried my way it's not working now it's not working I have you you know everything is in ruins I'm ending up in debt at least I'm seeing you know we're winning this money but we still end up in debt.

My public reputation is in ruins. You know I'm not. I'm not in good shape. I'm having ups and downs with my health. people call me crazy, people don't want to sit down and meet with me and all this has happened. I had to give it all to God and not use any of you, you know the tactic, you know, let's even say I'll be known as. my new Drake and all these kind of hotlines or whatever, no, we gotta come in and say it's all in God's hands, it's just praying, when you pray, things don't always happen exactly when you want them to happen, there's a God's hand. time is not your time and God can make you suffer to use you to show you something to show someone else something that is God why do I have to suffer why I don't have to go through tonight but it's a little bit like part of a bigger plan, so where does that leave the pushes that come but I can't talk I can't talk about his journey and his walk but he knows God is real you know there are things where people know God is real but the tangible, physical things are in front of us and Cuddy on Reborn, which is an important Kids in Ghosts moment, right, mm-hmm, that's a song that finally put you on the path, even though that record came out, you were still on Your way. on the way to Chicago to denounce Jesus the interesting timeline for that yes, it is interesting that he is reborn because Cuddy is not a Christian and I was not and you would be and yet that song was almost a statement of yes, eight months I don't know if I was saying that.

I think I was on the path since I was born God, I've always had myself on this path and you know, after being surrounded by the Sunday service with all these God-fearing, God-loving people singing, you know, I really had a sound wave treatment of luxury. to show me how God is so good and I was led with light and it's funny because God led me with light to him but then I turn around and I'll be yelling and other people who aren't in the same place on their journey, you know? finger pointing and judging and you're past that to some extent.

I'm still human. Still hurts. I still get angry, but it's interesting. Jo. Drugs in the studio. There is no alcohol in the studio. Can you be around those things? All alcohol, but yes. No, but some people know that I have a medical condition where they have to smoke marijuana mm-hmm and that's okay with you, yeah, are you saying what I approve of on a property within my studio specifically mm-hmm, you know? I'm at the beginning of the walk and I think there are certain things that haven't been fully defined, but I definitely want to say that we never have people doing hard drugs in our studio, yeah, anyway, I've never seen anyone do cocaine in a studio mine I never saw anyone smoke crack.

I've never seen anyone use heroin, but pills are heroin's friend. There it is an opioid with oxygen capacity, so I remember having surgery and then taking the painkiller and then when the pain went away. He would still be taking the pills that you may have taken more than one and the sensation that triggered it is similar to when you climax, which shows you why sex is as powerful a drug as opioids, while heroin is. , when I saw myself at the MTV Awards the year after my mom died, it was like I was a heroin addict with the needle and a heroin addict with the needle sticking out of my arm, like I really didn't anymore I would care to live and just Thank God for saving me physically, mentally, spiritually, yes, my last question is: um, at this point in your life at 42 years old and being a man of faith serving God spreading the gospel, have you Have you been able to find peace with the challenges in your life?

Don't mention the loss of your mother, the exposure to pornography at a young age, the things that were put in your path that you've had to process. Yes, I am at peace. I give everything to God. Sometimes it's us. I'll sit down and start getting angry about something or um you know you're going to yell about something and I'm rude you know I had a rude spirit and I had a rude spirit and I had a rude spirit that I need to work a lot on grace. Of people there are things they need to work on, man, I'm like ready to be a Christian, you know, they stereotype you, you know, Smita stops and says, oh, do you play balls?

It's just you take everything about my personality, but like everything you would do. Make a perfect Christian Don't you want to cling to someone? That fight is not so good. You don't need anything from that fight. You still like it. What is it? The fight. Just because you're a Christian, doesn't mean you're not. I have no fight, I mean rudeness, let me be more specific, well that's what I have to say. What I pray to be more like Christ is grace. I have to pray for grace and then when God strengthens my hand it is to have more grace as we as human beings within the game of life there is a disability that I might be a little upset about something later today.

I pray about it, but it doesn't seem like two days have passed, hasn't something new come up? Se ha, I'm upset because these are like new challenges that we face with life, the landscape has completely changed around here, having meetings and associations to build factories and our own farms, and in these new challenges there will be things to you're frustrated it's like you're at different levels of the video game, like you're less frustrated by the trap or the hi-hat. I've been doing that for so long, I call him Manny Marroquin, I call him Mike Dean. we have our production staff, we have everything completely under control.

I have no idea, you know how you have an idea, but I have no experience in doing the things that I'm talking about, yeah, yeah, and in that experience. There will be some cuts and some bruises, but I'm ready to go. It's one of those like jumping into the deep end and things like you know how you know certain difficult things that maybe you wouldn't jump into to be able to receive. to receive how rewarding they are on the other end and we, we, on defense, we always stay, we stay deeper, I'm not shallow, I'm deep, Oh shit, it'll all be in the deep.