Jon Gosselin on The Wendy Williams Show

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Jon Gosselin so by the way John's girlfriend was supposed to be here today but I understand she's sick yeah I think we all are she's in Pennsylvania looking at how you doing, woman, she's not looking because we. You don't have cable You don't have cable I can't afford it I have a lot of kids Yes, we just moved and that would be a distraction Yes Oh, a distraction and you, Andrés, you just put everything in its place before turning on the TV, Yes I understand you, now you moved to the house in the forest, well, I have a house in the forest and now I have another house in the forest.

You see two houses. It's Pennsylvania. Have you ever driven on the turnpike? Yes, of course, and what do they say? It wasn't corn, why did you move to the house in the forest? Well I originally had a place in New York and then I wanted to move to Park City, Utah, then I moved to California, oh, but I always came back home for custody okay, so I'd like to move to live in those places and then fly home to get custody and this was in 2009 and then I moved back to my hometown which is right where I grew up in Wyomissing Pennsylvania okay and then I had an apartment there which is really not conducive to eight kids yeah , so that's a lot of sleeping bags and a lot of couch cushions, yeah, and then I found a house on Craigslist in the woods with no address on fake eight acres on private property on private property and are you waiting for tables there in the area?

Well, I was helping out at the local restaurant and then I got another job at another restaurant that's 45 minutes from my house and then I started working as a maid and working in the kitchen and doing other things. I like waiting tables, although it makes me feel normal and I like talking to people. Well, I like it too. Look, I talked about that on hot topics. It's stupid that you were a waiter and I said, well, that's what a real man does. . A real man does what he has to do to take care of his children and I was surprised that you were waiting tables and not working in your IT field because I understand that you are a computer and yeah, well I in my IT field was kind of from I hate a cubicle, I hate it, yeah you know what I mean and then I realized that but you know it's work like work and I have to get things done but I wanted to try something different and I waited tables before when it was more young and before.

I was married, yeah, and I missed it, it was like an interaction, no homework, yeah, just do your line, come in now and take pictures of you, we just want sugar, so what's that excitement? We could do a promotion, that's promotion, yes and only. and then the food sells itself, so yeah, I have to work. Did you point a gun at the paparazzi when they came to your house in the woods? Yes, I did and you shot one. Now I have you in the air. I haven't left. You shot the ground, yeah, what happened to that case?

Well, they followed me home from work. Yes, as soon as they pulled into my driveway, they were trespassing. Oh, I posted that they were trespassing and then they pulled up to the driveway. I left. and I was like you gotta leave, you're trespassing, you know, and you know, they never leave, yeah, but then I just pulled out my gun, yeah, they left and then they didn't, they didn't leave yet, oh, when I pulled out the slide back was when they got in our car and realized I wasn't Mexican to get off so it's different in Pennsylvania we have a castle doctor and different laws so no lawsuits or anything to do with that, you know, they try and I.

I fired my firearm and they left um but then they tried to call the police station and press charges against me and the officer kindly said if you press charges ma'am we will arrest you for trespassing oh god I was on a mission , OK? You're still involved in the lawsuit with Kate, where she knows there was a point where Kate alleged that John hacked into her computer and stole some very pertinent photographs and information. And she's still suing because that lawsuit ended? In fact, he dismisses the case. I guess I proved her wrong, she didn't want to continue down that path, but Wendy, if she could do those things, she wouldn't be sitting here right now, yeah, I mean working for the NSA or the NSA, how much money do you make?

You think you got off John and Kate Plus eight because I made seven figures, but that all worked out, millions, not tens of millions, yeah, yeah, I was probably a millionaire in season four, what happened to the monetary divorce? Okay, do you pay alimony? No. Do you pay support? I don't. That is a mutually agreed upon decision between Kate, myself and the judge. Well, what happened to the money? Then I bought TLC, so it was half a million dollars because you broke the contract. You want a reality

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. bridge to the right and instead of staying on reality TV and just pouting with the filtering that you wanted normality.

I didn't want my divorce to be documented for my children to see on reruns. That is very big. It is a very great gift. I want to say that? A child would want to see the relationship go away from parents who knew it was you like urine, okay, there was a lot of talk for two and a half years, yeah, yeah, I'm glad you're like you got mine. Look, do you think Kate was having an affair with that beautiful silver fox, tall and burly, but a security guard? He is lovingly married, he is not so tall, so good, he looks tall in the photos and is the same lying down.

NOLA, I got you, oh my God. Look, do you think she had a little fling with him? Well, I tried to stop them, I mean, they traveled together a lot, you know, and I couldn't really do anything about it. I expressed my opinion, I thought it was awkward, you know? everywhere you worry do you think in the depths of your thoughts that she yes you have been together romantically um maybe I don't know I don't think about it anymore yeah just like hmm um so you know regarding you um oh we? I'm going to take a break.

I just got the signal, don't worry, we'll hold them for more because look, there isn't any. I want to ask you about your love life because your kids have said you bought too many women, oh yeah. Well, too many, listen and I want to talk about children. I wanted to list them. I want to talk more about Kate and the rude nutcase you've accused her of being and how reality TV has affected her kids and why you are. Back on reality TV, okay, we'll talk more with Jon Gosselin. The next interesting game is something strange. He was talking to John through the commercial.

You know, the place he just moved to was only four miles away from Kate, yeah, oh. I'm not afraid anymore, yeah, well, you know what? And then the father of his girlfriend's baby, she has three kids, she lives a mile away from them, but he and John get along, we have the polar opposite like Liz and Matt have the opposite polar relationship. You owe me a cake, well how is it? your relationship with Kate now I can text her if you want okay I mean can you just act so we don't talk to each other? You don't really know how the girl behaves.

Sorry, she's just interrupting. I only know what she says. about me by the media, that's the only good thing, what's it like to trade with the kids? Are you that family I see in the McDonald's parking lot where they're not talking to each other and trading the kids for the weekend? Well, I always have. drive so I pick up my kids at the bus stop and then take them back to my house and then to drop them off I leave them at the door of my old house, how do you think this is affecting your kids?

I mean your oldest son. They're 13 and I was reading in People magazine that the twins say they'd like to do more reality shows, but I was reading In Touch's weekly magazine that you said, oh hell no, kids can't exactly handle it, so it's always a discrepancy back and forth, but thirteen year olds thirteen year olds can speak for themselves. I have one of them mm-hmm, that's all. I think there's a lot of prompting, you know, a lot of talking around the house, like my dating thing, ah. as was my son, my twins were nine at the time and in 2009 when we got divorced, I dated three women in 2009, I dated three women, okay, one of them was Kate's plastic surgeon's daughter, another She was a lady who worked for Star magazine and is now married to Lindsay Lohan's father and one of them.

I don't know who it is, but it's okay. Yes, in California until now. Yes, because your children said that you brought many women. They didn't like seeing many women either. So, Jeana, do you think Kate tells them things like you say you want to do reality TV and you speak out against dad or I won't get you an iPhone? Yeah, I think maybe there's something to decode and you know, well, I have ultimatums. To tell you that my partner on Dancing with the Stars was Tony Dovolani and he had nothing but bad things to say, I'm sorry Tony, but you know what you were talking about.

I already said I'm enough, nothing but bad things to say about Kate, including that she wanted to. being treated like Princess Kate and had Dancing with the Stars build a dance studio in the basement of her house lot and yeah, because she didn't want to, you know, go to practice like the rest of everyone, oh, don't you worry before they were done he came and broke it yeah yeah so they built a basketball court out of them okay tell me this um would you let Kate get your kids on another reality show? Fight, you will fight, what if she gave you a part of the money no, I don't need the money, I will just go to work, yes, if you don't need the money, not because you are a rich man but because you have the capital well because I fought very hard to get my kids off a TV yeah, I mean, it didn't work in civil court.

I didn't work with TLC, it didn't work with anyone, so I had to go to Family Court and try to stop it. Do your children go to public school? my kids go to a private school, well that's a lot of money, they also have trusts, okay, they have an educational trust, they have other trusts, um k9, they put 80 percent of the gross income for three years into a trust for them , okay, so those are the kids. you are well into your fun oh no I didn't see couples therapy uh it's very entertaining yes no it's interesting it's different from what Johnny Cable says yes it's very different uh you were the last couple to get ready to go into the house I was surprised to see you there. what are they?

Do you do well on reality shows? Well, I always said I would never film with my kids, but I didn't say I would never film again. Do you love celebrity? Hmm, not really, but I like to understand it. It's different, I guess, to be known. that's what I'm saying, I'm not saying famous, yes, we recognized him on the street, yes, I would recognize him on the street, there are many famous people, you wouldn't recognize him on the street, he would recognize you, yes, how old are they? you 36 36 um, so you're back in couples therapy because you need the money or not.

I wanted to do couples therapy. Listen. You know that every relationship needs help. Yes. um. You know, remarry. It's okay, you know everyone. against you running away, oh yeah, a way for us to escape, which was really hard because we had to find babysitters in one day, yeah, how's Ghostface? Do you get along with him? Yeah, yeah, Dennis is great, those faces on those, what's his name? he Dennis Dennis dad will probably shoot Dennis he's Ghostface's killer hi Dennis um yeah I don't like him now that you have eight kids liz has three so eleven kids between the two of you are you getting married? um I like the idea of ​​marriage um like me "I like being committed to each other and promising to be together and you know, like when you see cute old couples going through some trouble, yeah, kids like you want that now, okay , so you don't know if you'll get married." We're still undecided, but the bigger question is: do you want more kids?

No, it can't happen, we can't have any more, did they fix you up, yeah, fix you up, oh yeah, looking good for you? Is there anything else you want to say? I think I'm done with this investigation, yeah, I mean, I'm an oral, I think I'm a normal, uh, ordinary person, I'm not going to know what, but it was a pleasure to meet you, it was a pleasure to be a director and we're going to be with you. watching John Gosling, you can watch John and his girlfriend Liz in couples therapy on Thursday nights at 9:00 on vh1, it's very entertaining.