Jay-Z and Dean Baquet, in Conversation

No. I think he started out in a more compassionate position than I did. You know, I'm saying no. I don't know if he had the level of I mean, he had survived by my instincts. I'm here because I'm different, I grew up in a different way and I came out of it okay. The first release came out when he was 26, so he was already a different artist, right? You know, a lot of people I dated were 17 or 18, so their theme is that of a 17 or 18 year old, unless you're a knife and you like it. well read and I think his mother was a teacher so I think he was much more advanced but the album he wrote made me grow up in a different way but he is a very compassionate person and a lot of times you get into trouble. trying to help others, you know, so I can relate to that, it's just that there are certain things that happen now, I'm just not a really okay lawyer and we just need to talk about it and it's like the relationship evolves, but there's a we genuine.

I love that I'm trying to imagine the scene where you and your wife talk about making these very confessional open albums. Was it difficult to say? I'm going to talk about the problems in our marriage. I'm going to talk about how we almost lost. things and for her to say I'm going to talk about my pain and my anger towards you, what were those

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s like? again it wasn't like that it didn't happen that way it happened that we were using all our good almost like a therapy session and we started making music together and then the music that she was making at that time was more advanced, so her album came out Instead of the joint album that we were working on, we still have a lot of that music and this is what it became that there was never a point where it was like I was making this album.

I was there, that was there the whole time and what was her reaction to your work and what was your reaction to hers. They must have because I think they were both for each of you, of course, so they were both very, very uncomfortable, but sitting in that is the best, the best place and, you know, the hurricane is in the middle, yeah, We were sitting in the AIA that had the hurricane, maybe it won't work. hurricane because there are so many people affected right now, but the best place is right in the middle of the pain, and that's where we were sitting and it was awkward and there's a lot of talking, you know, and I'm really proud of the music that she made and she was very proud of the art I posted and you know, at the end of the day, we really do have a healthy respect for each other's nonsense.

I think it's amazing. You know, most people leave and the divorce rate is like fifty percent of something because most. people can't see themselves, the hardest thing is to see the pain on someone's face that you caused and didn't have to deal with yourself, yeah, so you know most people don't want to do that, yeah, no you want to look inside yourself. and so you walk away