Interviews with serial killers | 60 Minutes Full Episodes

Tonight you will come face to face with a

serial

killer, one of the most prolific

serial

killers

in American history. They don't often talk to journalists and in the 45 years of 60 Minutes we've never interviewed one until now, Charles Cullen. He was an intensive care nurse who admits to killing up to 40 people. Some suspect there were many more. The murders took place over 16 years in seven different hospitals. Almost all of them suspected that Colin was harming the patients, but none of them happened that way. Newspaper headline reporting from his later employers called him the angel of death, but as you will see, Charles Cullen was not a mercy killer until we interviewed him a few weeks ago, he had never spoken publicly about his crimes, he never tried to explain why he did it or even express remorse to the victims' families when he finally confronted them in court this monster didn't even know us or our son but he had the audacity to end his life I would like to tell you a little about my mother that you murdered yourself You don't even have the guts to look like this, right, Charles, why don't you look at us?

I would like to show you what you did to our children, this is their father and his coffin, how do you like it? Such was the scene seven years ago in the Somerset County Courthouse in New Jersey when Charles Cullen sat through his sentencing hearing refusing to speak or even acknowledge the relatives of the people he had murdered, even the judge was exasperated. Mr. Cullen. I made you a question. Why has he chosen not to address the court? Can you hear me? Mr. Cullen. He has maintained that silence behind the walls of the New Jersey State Prison in Trenton, where he is in protective custody to keep him safe from other inmates protecting himself from his Our own demons have been more difficult, we found out when we sat across from him in a narrow cubicle separated by a thick layer of glass to talk about the people he killed.

He is 40, an arbitrary number. 40 is an estimate. I gave a number between 30 and 40 I think I've identified myself you know uh most look at you you plead guilty to murder you don't use that word I think I had a lot of trouble accepting that word for a long time um I accept that that's what Do you consider yourself a serial killer? I mean, I guess it depends on each person's definition, if it's more than one and it's a pattern, I guess then yes, yes, in Cullen's case, all of his victims were patients assigned to hospital units where he worked as a nurse they had ages ranged from 21 to 91 some were seriously ill others were ready to be discharged when Cullen injected them with drugs that would kill them It was a pattern that began 26 years ago at St Barnabas Medical Center in Livingston, New Jersey, the first time that Colin In the nursing job I worked in the burn unit so there was a lot of pain, a lot of suffering and I didn't cope with it as well as I thought I would and that was the first place I gave someone the medications that caused them. to Die, the patient was John, a New Jersey judge who was suffering from a severe case of sunburn until Cullen injected him with a fatal overdose of lidocaine.

Do you remember the person? I mean, I remember one and that's the only person I've ever met. could identify, but there could be more. St Barnabas did not know about the patient Cullen murdered, but he did suspect that he was trying to kill or harm half a dozen other patients by randomly and repeatedly poisoning bags of saline that someone was adding. Intravenous bags of insulin in the warehouse Charles Graber, a New York writer and former medical student and researcher, has spent seven years researching the Cullen murders for a new book called The Good Nurse. Graber says several St Barnabas patients received insulin. shock and almost died he was the prime suspect for poisoning random bags of saline he if you talk to investigators they will tell you Cullen was our man we knew he was dirty they couldn't prove anything it's all circumstantial they shoot he moved on when Cullen left the hospital the insulin overdoses stopped on the day St Barnabas could have investigated my license and probably revoked at that time I should have, yes, but instead of finishing Charles Cullen's nursing degree, St Barnabas flagged the beginning of a killing spree that lasted 16 years.

Cullen would work at eight other hospitals and be suspected of harming patients at six of them, but those suspicions never reached his subsequent employers and Cullin continued to murder patients with virtually impunity. In 1993, prosecutors investigated Cullen for murdering 9 Helen Dean , 1 year old, an autopsy analyzed almost 100 medications, but not the one Cullen used to kill her. A powerful drug called joxa, or dig for short, was Cullen's first weapon of choice. Why did you like Ditch Ditch? You know it was a It was a very powerful cardiac medication. What does it do to someone? In small amounts, it slows the heart rate.

In larger amounts, it can cause what's called a complete heart block and then the heart is very irregular and you know it can cause death. Mass death was also available in critical care units, and Cullen discovered ways to hide his dioxin withdrawals from an automated medication dispensing system called pixus that required nurses to type in the patient's name and the medication to be administered. . I didn't go into it, I would use Tylenol or another medication that would be in the same drawer, so, you know, there was no record of me going in for a dig, other than the fact that you know it was in the same drawer, how did you do it? did?

You choose who you are going to give this medication to. It's hard for me to go back in time and think about the things that were going through my mind at that moment. Was it personal? No, did you get pleasure from it? Satisfaction, no, I mean, me, me. I thought people weren't suffering anymore, so in a sense I thought I was helping Cullen. He suggested several times that his actions were merciful, but the evidence does not support this. Ellanor Ster, 60, an asthma patient, was recovering and in no way in pain when Cullen administered a fatal overdose of dejon.

College student Michael Streno, who suffered from an autoimmune disease, was recovering from what his parents called a routine surgery to remove his spleen. My heart aches for my son. Bleed for my son. We vividly remember Charles Cullen entering. In the waiting room, he looked us straight in the eye and said that Michael was seriously ill and that people didn't survive, and my wife told Cullen that enough was enough, that you could leave now that we are haunted by the memory of Charles Cullin. arriving at the waiting room. to get our reaction, there were people that you made die that weren't close to death and weren't suffering as much, you know, um again, you know, I mean, my goal here is not to justify, you know, what I did, there's no justification, um, just I think the only thing I can say is that I felt overwhelmed at the time.

Can you give us something? Can you give something to the families? Any explanation as to how this happened and why it happened? uh, like I said, I can't, I can only say that. It was pretty much, you know, I felt like I needed to do something and I did it and that's not an answer to anything. Charles Cullen was the youngest of eight children and grew up poor on this street in West Orange, New Jersey, protected by his mother. Cullen was 17 when she died he tried to commit suicide he spent six years in the Navy most of them he is a missile technician on a nuclear submarine he was miserable he felt intimidated he tried to commit suicide again after receiving general discharge he decided to go into nursing he married and started a family, but everything went wrong, a messy divorce, custody battles, bankruptcy, excessive drinking, more half-hearted suicide attempts and trips to the psychiatric ward that was Charles Cullen's state of mind when he was killing people and the night he finally confessed. to the murders I tried to commit suicide throughout my life because I never liked who I was because I didn't think I was worthy of anything, it was never about anyone except Charlie, he did what he did because of his own needs .

The author of his own compulsions, Charles Graber, was interviewed more than a dozen times for his book and remembers seeing words like paranoid, major depression, hostile, passive, aggressive and antisocial in psychiatric reports. He sees himself as a victim and, as a victim, he has the right to lash out in any way. he wants to do things right, uh, if that means killing patients, anything justifies his victimhood. At one point you said you thought it was about power and control. What do you mean if the rest of his life was ending? of control if he was losing custody if he was feeling depressed if his love life was in the bathroom he could poison patients he could save patients he could make decisions he had a realm where it mattered and where his actions had definitive consequences here you go person who attempted suicide at least 20 times who was in and out of Psych Wars and on a few occasions walked out of the psych ward and straight into a job as an intensive care nurse, actually got a call asking him to come back on shift. of a psychiatric ward, why wouldn't hospitals do some background checks right, partly because they weren't required to do so and partly because there was a shortage of nurses?

Charlie Cullen looked good at the end of his career, he was a 16 year veteran. had recommendations and for a hospital to ask too much or say too much it became a liability, you can't penalize a nurse for seeking counseling, seeking treatment, going to a rehab facility success

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y, um and that's why Charlie hid those Shadows when Cullin He was employed at St Luke's University Hospital in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania, had been fired or forced to resign from five other hospitals, but none of this was on his record with the state board of nursing, according to his own calculations. Colin had already murdered 11 people and would kill at least five more nurses at St Luke's were suspicious, there were rumors about his past and Cullen was caught red-handed stealing lethal drugs, but instead of calling the police, St Luke's brought in a lawyer to confront Cullin, do you think they knew what you were doing?

At St Luke's I think they had a strong suspicion, did you expect to get caught? Well, I guess you can say I got caught at St Barnabas and I got caught at St Luke's, there's no reason why I should have been a nurse practitioner after that. They offered you some kind of deal, they told you that if you resign we will give you neutral references and I decided to accept that. What is wrong with this system and with the hospitals that no one went to the police? Nobody really wanted to know what was going on, they gave you the opportunity to leave, I think because it's a matter of worrying about lawsuits, if they point out that there was a problem, they are going to find us responsible for millions of dollars, so they don't say it.

It's much easier not to put yourself in a position of being sued after Charles Cullen was escorted to the door of St Luke's Hospital without consequences. One of the nurses called a friend at the Pennsylvania State Police with her suspicions and an investigation was launched. By then, Cullen had already found another job at Somerset Medical Center in New Jersey, he would go on to murder 13 more people there, but it would be his last stop in that story when we flash back to September 2002, when Charles Cullen was hired as an intensive care nurse. . At Somerset Medical Center in New Jersey, the hospital knew nothing of his dark past;

He didn't know that he had been fired or forced to resign at half a dozen hospitals or that authorities had investigated him for harming patients and that there was no reason to suspect that Cullen had murdered five patients on his last job. He was able to move from one hospital to another without even a bad referral. Colin would kill 13 more people in Somerset in 13 months and attempt to kill three more in front of two detectives. a state bureaucrat and a nurse finally connected the dots. You were under suspicion at St Luke's but you went off to Somerset and kept doing exactly the same things and it seems to me you wanted to get caught.

Don't know. I don't know because you know you're right. I mean, I continued but I was also careful. I also denied at any time that anyone had asked me that it was the suspicious death of a Roman Catholic priest named Florian Gaul that set him in motion. The events that would eventually expose Charles Cullen Reverend Gaul had died unexpectedly overnight while he was recovering from pneumonia and the hospital discovered high levels of the heart drug dejin in his blood. It was the second unexplained overdose in 2 weeks. Blood levels were astronomical. much higher than you would ever reach using the medication therapeutically.

Dr. Steven Marcus is the director of the New Jersey Poison Control Center. He found out about deox and overdoses when aSomerset pharmacist called his office asking for help with some dosage calculations. The pharmacist also confided in me that two more patients in the same unit had turned up with abnormally high levels of insulin. Set arranged an urgent conference call with the hospital's medical director, Dr. William Kors, and recorded the conversation in which he told the hospital to notify authorities that this is a police matter that we're dealing with is, you know. , throwing the entire institution into chaos versus uh You know it's the responsibility to protect patients from further harm and we've been trying to investigate this to get more information before rushing to judge if there's anyone out there who's doing this on purpose. .

People at your hospital have a legal obligation to report this. Well, Somerset Medical Center would eventually notify the authorities, but it would take them three long months to do so. Do you know how many patients died among those? No, I don't know the number, but I do know that there were some patients who died among those five that we know of, uh, but I will remember those five deaths. The rest of my life I'm sorry, they didn't have to happen. They should have been avoided. Yes, it was October before Somerset County Detectives Tim Brawn and Daniel Baldwin finally met with hospital officials.

They were told about half a dozen incidents in the critical care unit, no one used the word homicide, they had dropped a couple of names to us regarding their own internal investigation that they claimed to have conducted over several months and they provided us with two names in particular, but They didn't identify them as any kind of suspect or anything like that one of them was Charles Cullen, right, the detectives ran a routine background check on Charles Cullin and found out that he had been arrested for harassing a nurse and breaking into her apartment in the eastern Pennsylvania, the file there also contained a posted note saying that the Pennsylvania State Police had called just a few weeks earlier to ask similar questions.

Detective Baldwin called the police officer, who did the investigation and after finding out, speaking with the police officer, he informed me that his agency had conducted an investigation on Mr. Cullen with the suspicion that he was murdering patients in Pennsylvania and that he was using the decision to murder patients and you discovered this by making two phone calls. Yeah, basically, that was it. Do you think she had her man? Yes, yes, but. the detectives knew that proving it would be difficult several law enforcement agencies had tried and failed how helpful the hospital was in this investigation how helpful the hospital was they were very helpful in responding to the subpoenas issued by the court huh, that was it The extent of his cooperation when detectives asked to see computerized records from the automated medication dispensary and critical care unit.

They say the hospital told them it wasn't possible because the medication-dispensing machine only stored records for 30 days. They learned otherwise from the machine manufacturer. They lied. to you, yes they did, they didn't want to give you records that turned out to be crucial to their investigation, yes that's right, you believe they tried to obstruct your investigation, they didn't try to help you, that's for sure when the detectives informed you. Somerset that Charles Cullen was the target of your investigation the hospital fired him not for harming patients by lying on the job application did you have the feeling in Somerset, for example, that some of your colleagues, some of the nurses, some of the doctors knew what was happening?

In no, I mean until you know, the day I was fired, no one gave me any indication that anyone was suspicious. The strange thing about Somerset Hospital was that they were planning to fire me the night before, so they let me work once. extra shift knowing that I was going to be fired the next day, so they let me work an extra shift with the suspicion that I had hurt the patients, which, you know, is kind of strange. Did you hurt anyone that night? No, without Colin. and the uncooperative detectives at the medical center get into a fight and Baldwin decided they needed an ally within the hospital to help them gather evidence to make their case, they decided to approach Amy Ridgeway, an intensive care nurse who worked with Cullen on the shift. night and was your best friend in the hospital he always came early always in cool weather and sat down and was very serious about going to work did you consider him a good nurse?

I did when the detectives first interviewed Ridgeway, she was hostile and upset that Cullen had been fired, so they decided to show her the evidence that they had assembled the pixus log showing Cullen's drug withdrawals from the dispensary and his actual work history. What did you say to him? Remember? I just told you that he was discharged from several facilities. There were accusations about him at other facilities doing similar things that were happening at Somerset Medical Center and I guess at that point he realized this couldn't be a coincidence and he offered to help. Yeah, Danny passed me this piece of paper across the table and it was pixus prints and I was devastated.

He knew he was murdering people. How did you know there were so many recalls of lethal drugs? There's no reason, there's no reason, except if you want to kill someone. You were angry? I was sad for my patience. I was, so many things were going through my mind, I was sad, dad, I didn't see it, I felt betrayed by my own intuition. Amy Ridgeway, who later convinced Cullen to interview us, spent days analyzing medical records for detectives and educated. She put them into a computerized recording system that would help reconstruct Cullen's activities on specific days. She recorded telephone conversations with Colin and wore a microphone at a meeting at this restaurant on the same day that a newspaper article reported that he was being investigated for killing patients.

I said I know. You're guilty I know, I know you did this and yet I'm still here I'll take you to the station We'll go together and he changed his face he just changed and what did he say? he said I want to go down fighting I want to go down fighting Colin told us that he suspected the police were listening I knew that Amy had helped the police I strongly suspected that she was connected when she asked me those questions so, uh, you know, you know, that's not it. It kept me from having the same opinion about Amy, which is that she is a good nurse, that she is a caring nurse, and that she did it because she felt it was the right thing to do.

He was arrested immediately after that. meeting about what the police now admit was mainly circumstantial evidence what they needed was a confession, but Cullen refused to say anything, so once again the police turned to Amy Ridgeway for help. What did you say to make him confess? very honest with him and there's a part of me that still feels guilty because I was manipulating him a little bit. I told him that the investigators were also watching me and how could he think that somehow he wasn't going to do it. being involved I remember telling him then who was who was his first first victim and it was a long time ago it was recent and he started talking he said it was a long time ago I think it was with a medication to lower blood pressure Cullen's formal confession to the detectives it would last 7 hours we will never know how many people Charlie Cullen killed Charles Graber spent seven years researching the case for his book The Good Nurse it is very difficult to go back there is no paperwork no bodies to exume he has been working for 16 years alone at St Barnabas.

He later told investigators that he was deceiving three or four people a week. He didn't always know the results. How many do you think he would be? I would be very surprised, as would almost everyone I know. I have spoken with some knowledge of this case, if it weren't for the hundreds, several hundred, you've been here for a while, nine years, you knew it was wrong, yes, I did it then, at that moment and then, did you do it? you feel? what you did, yeah, um, but like I said, I don't know if I would have stopped tonight, you're going to hear about the man that the FBI now calls the most prolific serial killer in the history of the United States.

His name is Samuel. little and over the last year and a half he has confessed to 93 murders, more than those committed by Ted Bundy and Jeffrey Dmer combined. No one would have known the extent of Little's crimes if it weren't for a Texas Ranger who had a hunch that Little had never confessed anything to anyone, but over the course of 700 hours of

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, Ranger James Holland convinced the man 79 years old to reveal his life's work. The confessions have allowed investigators across the country to solve dozens of cold cases, but the Palestinian Authority needs help matching them.

The rest is why the Texas Ranger tells the story of how he got America's deadliest serial killer to confess with a swagger that would make John Wayne envious. Texas Ranger James Holland arrived at the California State Prison this summer and was escorted to the interview room. For another round with Samuel Little, the killer who went unnoticed for nearly half a century, when you show up, don't be fooled by his grandfatherly appearance. I got away with numerous murders of women in my life over a span of 50 years, mhm, 93 murders. in 19 states from 1970 to 2005, now near the end of his own life and without appeals, little has been revealing his secrets to Ranger Holland over the course of several

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since May of last year.

Where did you kill the most? Oh, that's easy. Florida and California, yeah, which city did you kill the most in Miami and Los Angeles? How many did you kill in Los Angeles? Los Angeles, about 20, so how did it skip so long? He was so good at what he did, do you know how you did it? get away with it Sammy committed the crime left town Ohio bum prayed on the margins of society prostitutes drug addicts women believed the police wouldn't work too hard to find the ranger says little he was a cunning killer who sized up his victims and his environment the first thing I noticed is how incredibly intelligent this guy was he's oh genius why say oh well number one you know the photographic memory his memory for details like Sammy tell me what's around him there are three tombstones there is a by the road kichi , go down mile A4, there is a white Baptist church that needs to be whitewashed.

Fantastic, for example, little remembered. Unusual arches near the spot where he killed a woman outside Miami. Sure enough, when Miami detectives investigated, they saw that the Arcos had strangled Miriam Chapman. near those arches in 1976 you never felt like she had sent you on a wild goose chase. Nothing she said has been proven to be incorrect or false. We've been able to prove almost everything you said, Mr. Little, thanks to Little's confessions. Judges. and Nationwide prosecutors have been able to close long-standing cases what is his guilty plea to murder here was shortly via video link from his prison in August pleading guilty to two strangulations in Cincinnati in just over a year 50 cases unsolved that had been dormant for decades have been resolved due to detailed confessions that little was provided to the ranger tell me about North Little Rock tell me what that girl looks like she had buck teeth she had a gap between her teeth that the little thing perks up disturbingly while describes how he strangled his victims, you know, she's fighting for her life and I'm fighting for my pleasure, yeah, so how do you come up with a special killer?

How do you get him to talk? Things that normally work for researchers are avoided. What do you mean by that? You avoid things like, you know, remorse and closure for the family because they have no regrets and they don't care about closure. No, no, it doesn't appeal to them at all. I mean, you're asking them to open up. their soul to things that are more intimate to them than anything in life, why should they do that to you and that's what you're working for? The skinny black girl, very friendly, she, she, she, she was laughing when she was killing them with Sammy. visualization prompts for when you're thinking about a crime scene, you'll start stroking his face and when you start imagining a victim, you'll see him look out and up and you'll realize he's got this rotating carousel of victims and he's just is spinning. and she is waiting for her to dwell on the topic she wants to talk about.

The researchers discovered that she little liked to draw. Ranger Holland gave him art supplies wondering if he could use his extraordinary memory to draw his victims and he surprised them. they're all his drawings these are all his they're pretty detailed there's one that you looked at and you knew right away oh there's a lot of them yeah as soon as we matched them how many he's sketched there's about 50 the note about this super creepy Sam killed me but I love him uh he writes notes on some of the drawings tall girl next to the girl on the roadin a strip club right left in the woods 1972 right, yes, and we agree with that one you have yes, that's a murder in New Orleans.

I don't remember the person who checked me into the hotel this morning. If someone gave me a million dollars to draw his face, I couldn't do it, the fact that he can still do this well, he basically takes a picture in his mind of exactly what he sees when he leaves them a year and a half ago. Ranger Holland had never heard of Sam Samel. Little Little was rotting in this prison on the edge of California's Mojave Desert, sentenced to three life sentences in 2014 for strangling three women in court prosecutors had labeled Little a sexual predator, he denied everything and was defiant until the end, but the FBI noted that Little had somehow escaped charges for violent crimes year after year in state after state in places where women disappeared, including Texas.

That attracted the interest of Ranger James Holland, a skilled interviewer who says he has convinced dozens of murderers to confess during his career. Usually, when people want you involved in a case, they want you there because virtually everyone cases I deal with don't have DNA. evidence no forensic analysis there is nothing and there was nothing that linked Samuel Little to additional murders only suspicions the ranger was intrigued by an unsolved case in the city of Odessa Texas Denise Brothers was a prostitute who worked on the wrong side of the city ​​and then disappeared in 1994 looked everywhere her son Damen remembers driving through Odessa with his grandparents looking for her a month later Denise's brother's body was found in the back of an abandoned parking lot lying in Brush they asked us to come down and look the body you had to make Yes, how old were you? 14, that stays with you, yeah, for 24 years Damian didn't know who killed his mother or why Ranger Holland found out that Denise Brothers had been strangled and that Samuel Little was in West Texas at the time .

Sammy did it. I don't know, but I felt like there was a you know. reasonable probability that he did it to find out if his instinct was right the ranger went to California last year to interview Little, who had always been hostile to law enforcement. I thought he was going to confess total arrogance on my part and that for the moment? the first few

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it was really going pretty bad oh horrible, he's furious oh yes, poorly ventilated in the interview room for 30

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that he had been wrongly described as a rapist I had no doubt that Samuel Little was not a rapist, but I told him He knew it and I knew he was a murderer and he stops and looks at me for a second, he doesn't seem to care and then you can see it in his eyes as he looks away and falls back. as I say the word killer and that appealed to him, that's how he defines himself as a killer.

Yeah, there was a moment where you said I got it, yeah, when he talked about there may be three victims in Texas and three victims and one. one of them was in Odessa, Texas, all of a sudden we looked at each other, oh my God, he's talking about Essa and we grabbed our files and started checking and checking what he's talking about and checking, and Christy Palazo from the FBI and Angela Williamson The Department of Justice analyzes violent crimes. They were listening to the interview across the hall and had access to the FBI database and the Denise brothers' file.

You have the crime scene photos in front of you. They agreed immediately. Oh yes yes. and it had details, yes, that had not been reported, details like what and the case of Denise, do you remember that she had false teeth? The autopsy confirmed that the brothers did have false teeth. All the details matched. Samuel had shortly killed the Denise brothers. Ranger Holland knew he was onto something. Big planned to extradite Little to Texas for a few months so he could talk to him 24 hours a day and extract more confessions. I think Texas, with the death penalty, is the last place a murderer like Samle Little wants to go, you know basically what?

I told him I can't go to the DA and I can ask him to take the death penalty off the table and I think he will do which was especially brazen since Ranger Holland had never met with Odessa DA Bobby Bland and told me He said: I would like to receive a letter from you, on your letterhead, saying that you would agitate for the death penalty and I said, well, you know it is quite a difficult task to do it blindly, so why did you do it? For the greater good, the strange Ranger who was calling me from California telling me that he had a serial killer.

I put my faith in him the next morning. The letter agitating for the death penalty was in the hands of Samuel Little. Last September, the Ranger sent a plane to take Little to Texas, where he was housed in the Wise County Jail for 48 days straight for hours on end. The two men sat in a small room during this time. Little confessed to 65 of the murders of him. The ranger served a little pizza and Dr. Pepper to keep the stories flowing. People will hear this and ask why you were treating a serial killer so well. What do I say?

I say we can have one case or we can have 93 cases. The best thing for you was for him to feel comfortable. Oh, absolutely, yes, yes. So why did he finally confess to you at the end of the day? um, you know, maybe Samon just likes me, today Little is back in California State Prison. We wanted to interview him on camera, but state law doesn't allow it. We asked him to call us. He answered our questions for almost an hour. We wonder why he decided to confess now. Are you concerned that there may be innocent people in jail for some of his crimes?

There are probably numerous people convicted at my sentencing. In my name, I see if I can help get someone out of jail. God could smile on me a little more during most of our call. He talked about his victims, they were broke and homeless and they came right into my house. Well, it was uncomfortable to hear the graphic stories of him. Towards the end of the interview we asked him to reflect on the depth of his crimes. I don't think there is another person who has done well. I would like you to do it. I think he is the only one in the world.

That is not honor, it is a curse, Little's old age has health problems and the fear that his memory will be lost, it is urgent to discover who and where the rest of his victims are, it is as if it will never end, you have to continue, you have to do it. finish it Ranger Holland has been giving little encouragement to continue drawing three new sketches arrived at the Rangers office last week three new faces linger in the mind of the most prolific serial killer in American history.