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Ineos Grenadier Trialmaster review. How does it work as a farm car?

Mar 04, 2024
thank you welcome to the new harry

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video and this is not going to be a regular look at

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. I'm going to look at this

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Grenadier in more detail because I've had it for a week and I just want to see how it performs as a farm car, if you want to know more about on road performance etc I did a Harry's Garage

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on my other channel. I'll put a link there, but is this a

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ing car? I'm interested in seeing this

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now, this model is the five seat Trial Master Edition van and this is the most expensive version you can get, same as the Field Master Edition and the difference between the two is that a Trial Master is intended for Being the off-road version, it will definitely be suitable for off-road work, therefore, off-road tires with differential lock on that side come standard.
ineos grenadier trialmaster review how does it work as a farm car
The Field Master has slightly more luxurious upholstery lever and optimal, normal, well, not normal road alloy wheels. tyres, but road tires suitable for this car are now also the most expensive, I mean it costs £69,000 with a little over £72 if the cheapest on offer is a utility van which is the same as this one but with two seats and that starts at 55,000. There will also be a pickup version coming and they are also talking about a pure EV version, but this is the back story. I'm sure you know it. uh, mister Jim Radcliffe wanted to buy. The old defender of jlr when he saw the production, jlr said no, so Jim Rafael said okay then I will make my own and created this company to produce the Grenadier.
ineos grenadier trialmaster review how does it work as a farm car

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ineos grenadier trialmaster review how does it work as a farm car...

Initially it was going to be in the UK, it's actually a factory in France because Mercedes was leaving a fully equipped factory in France, he took over, that's where this car is produced, it has a six-cylinder BMW engine, you can choose between diesel or gasoline, 249 horsepower in diesel and 286 in gasoline, a little more torque, obviously with the diesel. version I think it's 550 newton meters the power figures and kind of overview this card matches the defender d250 yeah so Defender 110 is pretty close to this and in terms of price it's 61,000 before the extras and there are many extras you can have. in the new Defender, but I would like to have had the utility model here to test all the trucks, but I think it's an opportunity just to see what works, as with this version it's very obvious, if you like, it's a copy of the Defend.
ineos grenadier trialmaster review how does it work as a farm car
At first you end up with this shape if you were to make a utility off-roader like this, so the flat front spoiler has sort of a top and the hood is separated, there's sort of a fairly large bumper on the front, there's an optional winch on this if you want to put it there, but there is refrigeration and things that happen here. I was surprised at how big the front bumper arrangement was, its auxiliary driving lights that need to be turned on separately from the main lights and then underneath there's this kind of Sump God, but it's not actually a Sump God, look at it okay because it stops here because obviously there are live axles jumping up and down and you can't extend beyond that because you're just ruining the off-roader, but it has two giant ones. tow hooks, yes there is a chassis on this one, this is a ladder frame with front and rear live axles.
ineos grenadier trialmaster review how does it work as a farm car
Old way of making cars that are not identical to the old Defender, it also has coil springs like the old Defender, so no air springs, no ride height adjustment here. It's a big car, it's about a foot longer than a Defender 110 and there's a lot more space inside compared to the old Defender again, no surprises. I put it on the overpass and it's a pretty heavy car, eh, it was with me in it. 2 960 kilos as you see it here I think it's 2 8 I have 80 kilos so 280 or something like that but it has these Rock slider equipment here quite robust bars still um protectors because this car has traveled 4 000 miles because it was original press Auto, they launched it and then been to Scotland and has done a lot of work.
This one, therefore, has some extras. Other things on the outside, you can see, there are many accessories that you can buy for this car. and this is what all of these are, they're kind of the attachment points that we're looking for, so it's got a lot of electrical switches because it's got exterior outlets here, as you can see, they come from the back and there's a very rear door. distinctive in this. Now I am going to discuss some of the positive and negative points of this car. I think this is a minor point, it's a good idea because when I had that Defender the single tailgate was a bit annoying, it didn't have one. a big enough opening for me, this one has a bigger opening and it's two doors, but you open the small door and this whole thing is quite rigid to move around and then it's a very small opening, when you open it you really have to open this too to have proper access to the boots and then you can see it's quite wide so that's good and this one moves a lot easier than this awkward single door type.
The tow bar

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not come standard, it was 600 pounds to install there. it's a camera if I just put it back there there's a little camera that I did some towing with and there's a camera there that only sees the top of the tow bar so when you're backing into a trailer it

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. I'll give you a clue where the trailer is. There's nothing underneath, no secret compartments or anything and the seats go down one level but that's all they do, they don't flatten properly, that's why the seats don't flatten if I open them. This goes up to the seat.
The equipment appears and you'll see that there's the battery, there's a charger, for some reason, all the fuses, all the relays, they're all hidden under the back seat, which I find a little strange because it fundamentally means that you're going to do it. I'll never be able to fold those seats. The right-hand driver has a lot more space than the old Defender, but he probably can't handle it. It's like there's some kind of very strange giant footrest on the left side. I've done this. I have photographed this. with better light, but that's where the exhaust works and I mention it because it's a defect, because it means your left foot is fixed, there's nowhere to move it while driving and it's nice for the pedals. a little tight if you're buying a left hand drive Grenadier, no problem on the other side, there's plenty of room and it doesn't have that exhaust hidden underneath, which means a compromise on this car's footwear, your jack and your tools . hide under that seat there, um, what else is there to see?
You can't really see the inside here. I'll discuss it when I take it outside. Take a closer look, it should make life more interesting. I have put boots on him. Wellies on just to see how I get on in those. I haven't actually tried them because it's hot and there's no mud inside. I'm going to start it, it starts with a key no, which is a rare thing these days. Everyone beeps at me why because I'm going to put on my seat belt. I'm going to bring it out into daylight so you can see the dashboard layout filled with all kinds of stuff.
You can see this is a compass, so this is humming. Now I'm traveling east, southeast, there, this is your main screen, there's no Speedo in front of you, everything's on here, there's just a bank of warning lights in front of the steering wheel here and it starts with home and it's radio and things I often choose off-road only that are a little more interesting and I will do altitude statistics. I'll put them there, the ones we have down here are the tachometer temperature, the fuel and what gear you're in and what You're doing 4,200 miles, this car has done 114 miles on just half a tank, but I've been joking about the deal down here , we are BMW, automatic gearbox with selector, only in Grenadier.
I think it's a good thing, it's much better. off road it's a smoother getaway and you can shift and hold the gears manually with modern gearboxes, high, low, proper stick like the defender again and then you lock the center differential by sliding it through the steering, yes the steering , I won't continue with the steering because it is rollable, but mainly because it has almost four locked turns and the turning circle is 13 and a half meters, the old Defender 110 measured 12.8 meters and that was bad enough, so which is worse than an old school 110 Defender. The new Defender is about 11.7 so almost two meters better turning in a circle and 2.7 turns locked a lot, so this fall anyway what I'm going to do now that I have a test hill.
I'm going to go down to the steel test in the field and then I'll do it a little bit on the road. I knew it would work very well off road. I'm intrigued to see if it will catch on this hill because it's pretty steep and then there's a steep part at the end. that basically stops most cars and then it's the breakover angle, the angle is quite acute. What I'm going to do now because I'm in the field. I'm going to select out of the robes. I do it on this button here and I have to do it again and say yes, I'm definitely going to go in, so now I have it all lit up.
The annoying thing is that I would like to lock the differentials, but I don't. I have to wait because they are mechanical differentials. I have to wait until they do so I'll leave the front and rear diffs unlocked because I can't actually drive off-road with them but if it was in mud I could but it's so dry today I don't want to risk it right, I'm going to go up here and yeah, let's see how we do here, since I say the access is very steep, go up here, I just did it, uh, I've had a refusal to go up there.
I think it's the weights of this car and the fact that I hadn't locked the diffs and if I compare it to that long-term Defender I had on the farm that's hauled up there because it has electronic divs, it's fixing all sorts of things. without I touch anything and I know they want to make this an analogue car, but with new technology, surely if the Defender had continued and developed until 23, the previous one, I bet it would have had electronically controlled differentials, but there you go, That is a demonstration of it. off road I know you can go off road and I would have gotten there easier if I had locked the differentials, but I don't have time.
I press them, they don't activate, so I think I have to drive and maybe put on a brake. a little bit of blocking when checking the blocking conditions, but I don't get it right, let's right click on that card. I don't need the hassle of trying to lock the differential before overcoming an obstacle. I just want to get over the hump and continue, so I know it can do it, but it's a little strange to me that it just doesn't do it automatically. Okay, let's hit the road moving. Its relatively refined visibility is fine. It spits like the old Defender and strafes which I think my The main complaint is out the rear window, it's quite small and you've got that giant spare tire on the bat which Mark sees me quite high because it's a split rear door, there's a post big in the middle of that width that you can't You see anything and it's the same here, this B pillar, just when you can't do roundabouts and things that sit, I'm just over six feet tall and if you have the seat in this that position , you're turning, you know if When you're turning and at Junction, you want to check what's over your shoulder, you can't really see it, but my biggest complaint is that I'll show you the direction.
I'm going to turn right here and basically it doesn't automatically center the steering. There are a lot of right turns. How many turns am I going to make? turn right there are quite a few turns. I turn right if I let go. Wow, he's headed for that purge there. It just doesn't self-center the direction. I can't remember another modern car that doesn't have a rack and pinion. I'm stumped by that one, it all has to do with the Caster angle and it's that they put ball steering on the cars so they don't kick you back. the steering when you're off the road and hit a rock, it kind of overrides the steering, the downside is that there is the self-centering that you might expect.
I went to tow this car and put a trailer behind it a one and a half ton put 1600 cars on it so 3.1 tons total and it towed it well. I knew there was weight there, but it worked better than expected. I just didn't like the slow steering and vague speed again. It seems like you're putting in a lot. of fixes because there is a lot to do, you can move the steering quite a bit and not a lot happens, between 17 and 19 MPG, which is one or two less than what I got from the new Defender, the other thing I have I noticed the visibility.
I'm surprised I can see the front of the front fins. Someone with the relationship between the seats and the front wings. I thought it would have more visibility from all four corners, but it makes you quite dependent. on the parking sensors, when you're in a tight spot, the mirrors aren't huge, there's no blind spot indicators and that sort of thing, the other thing is the payload, it doesn't require a ton in the back when it comes of such heavy cars. He is 2 8, I think he has 700 700 kilos, he cancarry the bat, but it has a much larger opening than the new Defender, so it gets points for that, but it's an N1 commercial rather than a full commercial because of that and again.
I'm going to put up a lot of blocking, yeah, I'd go there. I have to put it back in so it goes straight, so that's it for the road test of this car. I want to try a real base one. I don't think it works as a family car as it is, there are too many compromises for me, but I admire Jim Radcliffe for going this far, it's so difficult to create a car company in 2022-23 that takes gestation. It's been five six years, but you've created a car, you've got it on the market and it feels more specialized than I expected, I was expecting a much more versatile rival than Maybe there's a Jeep Wrangler out there Renegade, whatever it is, they have a lot of chassis, they are not as robust as this problem, I think they are cars like the VW.
Amarok linked to Hilux Amazon there are a ton of them, all full vans, they have all taught us that you can have light dynamics in your commercial vehicle and eat miles on them. I can't see, I would eat Mars. The seat position bothers me. The steering bothers me and I don't know if it's about robustness and toughness for another five years. It has to prove itself in the market. I love the accessories they are making with it. I would love to I love to see this as an adventure vehicle and earn its Spurs and become that vehicle, but my first initial attempt at this car is as good as I expected in that role and the problem is that there are some very good rivals that are in This space is a little cheaper, they are known and are better on the road forever.
You know you can have the best off-road capability, but you spend a lot of time on the road and that's where this car fails. For me, it's not good. There's enough on the road already, so there you have it, that's my review of this car, looking at it from a pharmaceutical perspective. I hope you enjoyed it, we did well, keep watching the videos, there will be more videos very soon.

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