I LOVE BUILDING COMPUTERS!!

and we are live, ladies and gentlemen, this will truly be one of my greatest feats. I'm going to be live

building

not one, not two, not three, not four, not five, but six, yes, it's six, believe me, honestly, six

computers

today, why you might ask well. because no one else had time to build our new editing stations, no you don't have to pick it up, just do a sweep here for me, no one had time to build all the new editing stations and everyone said I did a wonderful job. I did that on a livestream a few weeks ago and people would like to use their new editing stations, so we delegated that task from the top, from the CEO to the writers, to studio management, and then I came back. to the writers and all the way back to me, so I'm going to build six

computers

today.

Now you only saw five cases there, that's because case number one or, more accurately, case number two because I already built system number one is correct. Here, oh boy, without further ado, why don't we get this puppy started? So let's start by making sure we tell you about our sponsor. Hey, Ridge Wallet wants to redefine the wallet with its compact frame and RFID. lock plates see how they can help keep your wallet fat by using the offer code linus to save 10 and get free worldwide shipping, it's very convenient to have everything already done for me, everything like that, okay, let's get our graphics card from source feeding.

We won't need them for a while and we'll build our motherboard here, so like last time we used the Rog Zenith to the extreme and I really want you guys to hold me accountable because we have six systems to build. which means we don't have much time to waste today so if you see me wasting time I want you to let me know in the chat hey linus you have to continue with this you have to build something you have to build something computers no, no, not only I'm

building

five yolo faces, I'm building six, there's six total of everything and of course I should take this opportunity to say a huge thank you to the people who provided hardware for these systems, uh, asus, obviously, amd g. skill intel noctua c sonic and nvidia oh also phanteks with the uh with the cases there um I have oh Nicholas you're really a peach look at this he has one of these thread rippers uh slash epic torx it's torx and torque which is a lot of fun To me , your sense of humor may not match mine, but I

love

it, it's a Torx torque screwdriver.

He bought me one of these and I happen to also have an ifixit kit on hand because I'm going to need it for m.2. Installation, well, let's talk about some of the specifications of this equipment and why we went this route for our editing workstations. Now it's no secret that in this generation the amount of attention on Intel's high-end desktop workstations has been very low. AMD's third generation threadrippers. They have absolutely stolen the show here and for good reason at a relatively affordable price. Remember guys, it wasn't too long ago that on the consumer or even high-end desktop you could only get six or maybe eight cores if you were lucky.

So for a relatively affordable price, being able to fit 24 CPU cores in one socket is incredible, so we went up and up on the 3960x thread ripper because we found it to be a good cost mix, although AMD shipped them, but we were just trying to Expect something that we thought would be really reasonable when we show you how to build the machines, so a good mix between cost and number of cores because depending on your workload, it's very possible that you won't even be able to take advantage of all the benefits. CPU cores like this are not only very possible, it's quite probable, so course 24 felt like a really good middle ground with the possibility of upgrading in the future, so one thing that's really exciting about the trx40 chipset and maybe not, maybe not the There is a lot of chipset, but definitely the strx4 socket is that AMD has committed in vague terms, but it has committed to supporting this socket in the long term, so right now we already have a upgrade path to up to 64 core CPUs, which means we could at least expect another generation of high-end 64 cores or I don't know, it seems crazy to even say it out loud, but CPUs with an even higher core count is crazy , we're going to go ahead and add some memory, so g Skill generously provided these 3 200 megahertz cl 16 kits, so that's 32 gigs per device, which means once we get them, and I'll do my best to install them in the correct slots, this time I screwed up on the last broadcast, it's like the easiest thing in the world because all you have to do is follow the general rule which is to fill every other slot starting with the ones that are furthest from the socket, but I managed to put the wrong slots in last time, so these are another kind of great today and a solid upgrade path for the future, it gives us 128 gigs of RAM per station with the ability to go to 256 without replacing them and recently It was brought to my attention via a tweet from one of our editors that 128 gigs might actually not be all we need to move forward uh someone posted an oh here someone posted a screenshot on our Twitter of I think it was 109 gigs memory usage on your workstation is like what are you doing?

Come on, help me here. Oh, I remember this. since last time i think i had to use the dim.2 carrier for my optane unit the other one is on i'm sorry oh yeah yeah that's okay i can find it that's another big update we're doing here that's all. of our workstations are moving to optane and it's not a performance question like if we wanted the fastest drive performance obviously we could put, as you know, pcie gen 4 ssds or a bunch of ssds on a liquid media or amphitech. or something like that, but that's not necessarily the most important thing when it comes to system responsiveness and performance, so what we really want is very low latency storage.

I'm going to go ahead and install it outside, I want some. a little less heat for my poor optane m.2 because these things can get a little hot, let's go ahead and install this, anyway we went with optane, these are pcie gen4, I guess so, technically it's still a card and it complies the definition. of a card, so these are pci express. Did I say gen 4 pci express gen 3 for 4 m.2 modules? What you have is that seven, what a strange configuration, uh, what a strange configuration, so you have your controller here and then I have seven optano packs here on the top and bottom and these things can get a little hot.

In fact, Intel even sent us with them. These, oh, they're not here anymore, but they're on the right, oh here. Yes, they even sent us these crazy ek heatsinks for them. The problem is that with our board configuration we can't use them so I'm going to go ahead and install this on the dim.2 carrier accessory and it's not the end of the world because the thing about the dim.2 card as a daughter board is that It actually makes it really easy to change or upgrade your storage in the future. I mean, I'm all for it, let me.

Get a screw here, yes I'm all for making systems look cleaner and more compact and all that good stuff, and that's a real benefit of installing your SSDs in slots like this, so there are slots too m.2 here below. It's that when it comes time to update the damn thing, you have to boot up your graphics card or whatever other PCI Express expansion slots you have installed so you can access them and create something that could be very fast. and it's very simple, you know, ha, you know, a half hour and 20 minute project instead of a five minute project that you can do with this little baby carrier, even if it's a little bulky and ugly, and I'm not a big fan of that aspect. of this now I'm going to be able to do it, can I give you a little more detail oh no, that's focus oh shit oh boy andy, I ruined everything up there that's pretty good hey, it's very wobbly, I'm so sorry guys, it's not either ? focused, wait, I've got this, what's it like, you know how we call it good enough, we call it good enough, ladies and gentlemen, it's good enough, don't stagger it again, you're staggering it, you didn't stagger it.

Alright Nicholas, okay, I worked in the film industry, did you really know that was on your resume oh no, it's a screw, so let's go ahead and install this puppy here oh boy, okay, third time is the defeated, does ASUS just do it? so weird things sometimes you know like a pci express 8x interface on this like some weird custom memory looking thing and then you install two like four per cards so yeah one goes on this side and the other goes on this side so it's as simple as Removing the heatsink on the other side if we wanted to add another card or just taking this one out and replacing the one that's there, let's go ahead and remove the cover, yeah, okay, install this puppy.

I am elated. I just want to make sure we're really covering everything because the thing about nand flash is that you don't necessarily want to cool it down too much because it can actually cause it to not last as long, as far as I know optane has no such concerns so Cooling this down is something purely positive, okay, go ahead and install it, so what I'm thinking is the first system. I do it at a relatively leisurely pace and then keep trying to improve my time as we go. Do you think I should think I can be six times more efficient?

Okay, let's go ahead and install this puppy. Want? uh you're on Andy, there we go, so he's right next to our memory modules and everything looks pretty. incredibly neat you can go down and look at this here we go oh yeah I have that computer building porn right there that has 128 gigs of RAM 24 cores and 380 gigs of optano storage and you could ask and in fact Intel asked me this like I really only want 380 gigs, like what year is it and I said yeah, I just want them because as soon as you give editors local storage on their machines, they'll start using it instead of putting stuff on the server where it's stored. suppose. to go, so I intentionally don't give them any storage and we have a company-wide ban on editors having portable hard drives or anything connected to their machines, not because I'm worried about them knowing corporate data theft or anything So. that I trust my guys it's nothing like that it's just because I don't trust those things I trust my editors I don't trust external hard drives so shiny I want to get one I want to see the shiny shell oh look at that look at how shiny that's here here more shiny shiny okay I'm going to take my time I'm going to take my time on this first one so I don't have to go much faster are you really thinking about Nicholas? everything now, after that, after that video, you will never live it until the video where we repaired the pins on the CPU which was uh, that was a classic, that was a classic, I swear, I got gray hair that day and nothing They're in my head, you know, I can't show you where those gray hairs are, but I swear I have gray hair from working on that video with this guy's retirement broadcast, oh no, no, it had nothing to do with it.

I had already planned it, I'm very aware that yes, you're not Mike, so you can't talk too much, otherwise people just listen like Charlie Brown adults talk well. I'm not saying you know I don't. I want to hear from you. I like it a lot. I'm just saying we actually get complaints on stream when people talk off camera without being too much. Okay, let's make some thermal compound. Andy, I'm on top, so are you. We can relax, so why don't we try six different thermal compounding techniques? What do you think we will see? Well, we won't, we won't, we won't, we won't, we won't, we won't, we won't, we won't, we won't, we won't. we compare all of these uh but we're definitely going to do some different thermal compounding techniques so we're going to start the day doing something you know pretty conventionally so we're going to look for an x ​​here and then we're going to put little dots there, there , there and there, all right, let's call that, let's call that pretty good, you may have noticed if you have extremely sharp eyesight, one of our very attentive spectators who are there. we changed our cpu cooler, we were hoping we would get away with the nhu 12 but it turns out the 3960x is a hell of a cpu and we had to upgrade to the u14, how many watts can this thing have?

Can you look that up for me, Nicholas? I don't remember exactly what the spec is but it's amazing and we talked about this actually when AMD released the 39 Nicholas, do you know how to fix it? I'm sure you can. figure it out, we talked about this when AMD launched the 3950x, so when they took their flagship consumer 3900x, which is 12 cores, they went to 16 cores andWe said how the hell are they going to do this, how are they going to get through? 12 to 16 cores and you know, they keep the power and thermals within reason and then they turned around and made a chip that somehow in our testing performed even better when we released our review and I was like, how come Was it Anthony? how it was and amd anyway, that goes the other way too, so just because it has only 24 cores compared to 32 or 64 in the rest of the threadripper line doesn't mean it doesn't run very hot and consume a ton of power, so we were, we were a little surprised at how warm the last system ran and we're not going to take any chances.let's go u14 u14s I see danielso4 informs me that the fan is not spinning thanks see daniels you are an amazing troll I can't call you anything worse than that because you're a floatplane uh member um but I would just just know that, okay, let's go ahead and put this heat sink here.

The fan does not rotate. Wow, half of half of the seaplane chat, I mean, I selected Daniel he's there, but half of the seaplane chat just talks about the fan, no. spinning fine the fan is not on the heatsink right now so I don't even want to hear about it and the fan was spinning like a 280 watt tdp upgrade so this isn't your grandpa's cpu no is that your grandfather had a CPU. Probably, we're actually getting to the point where you could possibly be a grandpa and, you know, you've run like Pentium Pentium One or even go back a little further, yeah, yeah, okay, no, that's not your grandpa's CPU.

I mean, when you were a kid, obviously, you could be a grandpa who has a CPU, I just want to say, if enough time has passed, you could tell this isn't your grandpa's CPU, as you know, the generation's CPU. previous, you met her when you were young. Your grandfather was young and he had this CPU that's what I'm talking about, no one has any idea what I'm talking about, okay, ah, okay, Andy, come on, come a little closer, I just want to show you what we're going for. up to here in terms of cable management, so I want to run this to the CPU connector right here, but what I want to do is keep this cable out of the way of my memory tabs so that if we ever need to do an upgrade The system doesn't get in our way here and what I usually like to do is tie the cable into a little knot.

You know, I like to do bad things here and it gets in the way of memory. eyelashes, but actually that's not bad, okay, that looks pretty good, I have to have it on hand, oh, it slipped a little, there we go, that's better, okay, so there you go, so we have this over here and then we just have a little bit. knot right there and everything looks pretty good actually and that's it for the motherboard, let's break down the case and yes these systems will work on anno 1800, very good if people want to game in their spare hours on their workstations, that's how it would be.

Actually, there wouldn't be a problem, it's kind of a crazy thought, like there's nothing stopping them from using like uh um oh man, why am I missing it? Oh yeah, there would be nothing stopping editors from using parsec or rainway or something like that. their workstations and just like not having a gaming computer, I mean besides wanting the added visual fidelity of not streaming, we have a 10 gig internet connection here so it's possible for the entire company to be able to stream their games from the office, which is actually Sounds like a video concept, doesn't it?

So what you're saying is that everyone is getting nvidia shields. Well, no, I mean nvidia shields. Oh wait, you mean the Shield TVs. I mean, you don't need them because you can stream. Basically on any client today, it's just a question of what kind of visual fidelity you can expect from the built-in hardware decoder and how good the latency is. Some of them are better than others, so for our case we opted for the eclipse. p600s oh it really was a real pleasure to work on last time, really impressed with this case. It had a couple of imperfections that I hope we don't repeat, but only close inspection will tell us that I also had some problems with this tape leaving a nasty residue, so I hope we don't have a repeat of that too because that lost us some time the last time, wait, wait, there we go, it doesn't actually look bad, this one looks pretty damned. pretty perfect, actually, okay, I'm happy with it, we have our tempered glass panel here now I just need to remember how to open the oh, okay, that was pretty easy, just magnetic, and let's try not to knock this motherboard over. the desk while I remove this uh is there a screw for this?

Oh, that's a tight fit, come on, come on, wait, you removed the box, where am I going to put the panel? No, it's okay, I have this. We're just going to throw it in there okay people take off the tempered glass panel here we go let's try not to break it here we go and let's start with the power supply so if you're going to have a 280 watt CPU you might as well have a. The thousand watt power supply is overkill, yes it's a little overkill, but that's okay. Power supply is one of those things where there's just no real advantage to making it too cheap and because the standards haven't changed, well, I think around the time I first got into computers, so this doesn't it was first in computers, but by the time I really started getting into computers, you know, custom ones, not just upgrading a PCI card here and there, that was around 2003 2004 and at that time the 20s pins.

The connector was still in use, but it was being phased out for the 24 pin and we had four pins, no, don't leave it, we had four pin p4 connectors, um, which would soon be replaced by eight pins and then you would see two pins, eight or eight. plus four or whatever the case may be that came to consumers from server hardware, so I guess it was probably like a couple of years after I got into this, so this is around 2006 to 2008, like somewhere place in that range that they basically have. It hasn't changed, they've gotten more efficient, sure this is an 80 plus titanium power supply, which is like you know you can almost stop calling it 80 plus at a certain point, start calling it closer to 90 plus, it's crazy, they are incredibly efficient.

Now, and you know, things like modular interfaces have become commonplace where they used to be like some esoteric feature that you could find on some weird power supply, but fundamentally they're the same thing, they're the same things that all of those were. years ago so there's nothing wrong with making and I hate using the word investment because an investment is something that pays off over time on a computer unless you use it for work it doesn't pay off over time but no There is nothing wrong with making an investment in a good quality power supply that you can potentially carry with you for years and when I use the term investment I mean investment in the sense of hey, if you buy it now, then you know a piece that won't I have to replace or upgrade later when you go with something more powerful or whatever the case may be, so the modular cables I'm installing right now, assuming I can change the angles here and show you what I'm doing here.

Come on, the modular cables that I'm installing in this unit are uh, Andy, you're not visible, they're the 24-pin ones. I think we need two eight pins for this motherboard, I guess it's a 280 watt CPU, yeah, two eight pins for the CPU, so that's it. going right here and then we have two six plus two and these will be for our super 2080 graphics card fun story, we might actually end up trading those super 2080s and the reason is that some of our editors taryn Sorry, excuse me, I had something stuck in the throat. Some of our editors are managing to use not just the eight gigs of vram you'd find on a 2080 super, but way too much even for a titan v, so taryn has been using it regularly somewhere. in the neighborhood of 13 gigs of video memory, which has been causing some hook-type behavior in your software, like which, uh, Nicholas, what software were you having problems with in particular, was it After Effects, was it the premiere, was the premiere, okay, so the problem is that when your vram is full, it has strange problems on premiere, so we tried to change the titan v for a quadro p6000, which is an older generation in terms of actual performance, but it has 24 gigs of vram and the problems. disappeared, so what it said was that it takes longer to render when you're using the GPU, so any type of GPU accelerated takes longer, but it's more stable and offers a smoother editing experience, so we might end up shooting , do I choose? wrong part here oops so we might end up swapping out all the gpus for quadro p6000.

You can get them on eBay for around two and a half thousand dollars right now and in terms of something that has a lot of performance and a ton of vram, it seems like a pretty good bet right now, part of me is tempted to wait and see what it will bring nvidia in the next few months, if anything, because once the cooler and shroud start leaking, you can usually bet that you're pretty close to the launch of a new graphics card, but I don't know, the thing is that the Businesses don't work, businesses don't bide their time to upgrade, so we may have to move on and do what we have.

What I need to do here now is install a motherboard. Actually, yes, now there is a little trick with installing the motherboard because this motherboard is a pretty busy board covered in a lot of things. It's actually missing one of the nine standard ATX mounting holes. So we have one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight. Oops, so it is very common in cases, especially those where the manufacturer wants to make the construction process as simple as possible. It's quite common for cases to include standard motherboard mounting standoffs, but esp. because this one here, if you come, look closely at this Andy, especially since this is one of the little knots that will help you keep the motherboard in place, I would actually make a number on the back of our motherboard here If we left it installed, that is, if we had a motherboard that didn't have a protective shield on the back, it would still scratch the back of the board and that's not something we want to do, so let's move on. and let's get this puppy out of here oh boy, I'm starting to get a little disorganized um no, don't leave it for now because I don't want to run into a situation where I need things and I already packed the box.

I don't think I need any more modular cables, but a sata cable for the oh yeah, that's right, okay, great, thanks. This will go away. I

love

Fantax accessory boxes, so they have them. Wait, where is it? uh, where's the other thing? I think it's here somewhere, no, not that one, it's here somewhere, wait for it, oh yeah, look at this, all the little screws I need, all nicely organized, and here's an extra one I don't need at all, love. Okay, let's go ahead and install this puppy maybe you know what I'm going to mix things up today.

I'm going to mix them. In fact, I'm going to leave the case on while I build a computer for a change. It's okay, it's cold, leaning, don't worry, it's all right, you're leaning, fine. I'm going to switch to the other view, oh boy, we're too close now. I knew this was going to happen, wait for it. I got this, oh yeah, how sweet, okay Andy, we're not looking at you right now, so you can use that monitor to know if we're really looking at your camera or not, here we go, so convenient man, it's like in the In most cases it would.

I don't recommend high-end stuff per se because you can get a much better value by choosing something, you know, in the mid-range, but it sure is nice to have creature comforts like built-in I/O shields and pre-installed standoffs. its case and all that kind of stuff and I definitely don't complain when I work with high end hardware just little things and it's like you know from a performance standpoint from price to performance it doesn't make sense which one is again , why as me, you know I'm not going to come out and recommend that you spend 400500 on a motherboard like that?

It's hard to justify when you can get a lot of that performance for less, it's just when I get the opportunity it's nice, that was always something I liked about building systems for clients when I worked at ncix, because I get to have fun like , well, we have to test it, so we're going to have to turn it on. some games, because how else are we going to stress test them so you can play them, but you don't actually have to spend all your money on them? That was a big hobby when I was in school, you know?

Try to build, okay, never, oh, okay, that's not very magnetic. You never want to build systems and then try to flip them on Craigslist, but if you can find people who needtell you it works with my kids, I'm just going to have to yell at them, yell at them a little louder, everything is recognized, hey, look at that, okay, come on, come here, andy, look. this, we have 24 cores, we have 128 gigs of memory, we're going to hit that xmp profile up here, okay, let's see what happens, we'll see if it actually manages to boot again. I just went through something so terrible. any luck over the years with xmp or sorry, excuse me docp, that's what they call it on the amd side of things, I wouldn't be surprised if this doesn't even get published, I'm just having really bad luck with it, well, what? could you look at that?

Okay, we still have to prove that they're stable, but that's at least a start that's better than what I usually do with those things. Okay, speaking of what I'm doing here, let's switch to my overhead and get some optano. installed here, get that optane in this business. I love it. I was determined to use these m.2 optons, not for any particular reason, we have no intention of installing a bunch of expansion cards in these systems so we can have equally easy to use large PCI Express cards for all of them, but it makes me grace that you can get optano as m.2.

I imagine motherboard compatibility with this wouldn't be surprising on laptops. I know we had issues with the There's a separate eight terabyte drive where some laptops just because of power limitations don't run it because it's a lot of nand flash and optano tend to be a little bit hot and a little bit power hungry. I really want to do it. the next-gen stuff because if Intel's intention for the optane is anything to go by, I expect it to have extremely low latency, which would be great, okay, let's install the memory first. I still can't believe I screwed up. installing the memory in that other sequence, building one of these, is so dumb it's like people saying that's what you get for not reading the manual.

I don't need to read a manual to know which memory slots to put something in and stuff like that. everyone was talking like oh you have to put it on b c d like whatever I don't like it hasn't even been that long since I had to think about you know which letters are which for whichever the last time I had to do it was on Epic and it They do it the other way around on that platform for whatever reason which screwed me over and has made me just not even know which ones you're supposed to put in from a numerical as well as alphanumeric standpoint.

Just know that you're supposed to install as far away from the outlet as possible, every other, very, very simple, very simple rule. Overall I somehow managed to not put it in the right things it's brutal so I was so sure I put it right and people were saying this is because you didn't read the manuals like no this it's because I had a Completely Idiot Moment, that's what happened, I'm not even going to hide behind that, it was like being too stubborn to read the manual, it was just really stupid, um, let's install this puppy here, oh , how strange, you have the other system right, I put it. push, you have to put it on the dim.2 setting, well, that's your problem, okay, let's register.

Sorry I have the motherboard facing the opposite direction I hope I do too. I'm not going to hide behind that as an excuse, even though that's what happened. but there's no excuse for it, that was terrible, okay, let's tie a little knot in my time here, plug in my CPU fan and voila, the motherboard is done, let's find another case here, uh, which case am I in this? Great, I'm already losing my mind guys, we're only on system number two, there's plenty of time for this to get worse before it gets better. I have a few people asking me why we aren't using an nhd15.

That's because, as far as I know. there is no nhd15 with threadripper support. Threadripper cooler support isn't as simple as, oh, wait a second. Threadripper cooler compatibility is not as simple as simply building a compatible mounting mechanism for the cooler. Actually, you have to think about it like you have to consider the size of a thread ripper here, you have to consider the size of a thread ripper from the beginning and make sure that you're not focusing all your cooling as if all your heat pipes are They're going to touch like just a small area right here because you're going to end up with hot spots on these dies that are actually pretty dispersed underneath this integrated heatsink, so on Intel processors, even the larger ones, you can generally safely assume that most of the cooling should be concentrated in the middle of the ihs it's not like that for amd where they can have chiplets spread out a bit so it's definitely the right decision by noctua to just say look we don't have we don't have a cooler heartbreaking and you know, no, you don't put it. people are in a position where they install this thinking it's working fine and it actually isn't because one thing you guys need to understand is that the way processors report their internal temperatures is based on sensors that are built into the processor and as long as you have a validated CPU cooler, one that cools the CPU as expected, that temperature sensor will keep you safe, but if you have a situation where you have a cooler that is working very well. job of cooling the area right where the temperature sensor is, but that's not doing a good job of cooling some other area and creating a hot spot where there is no thermal monitoring that can actually have long term damage to that processor by not have a proper cooler installed so it's good to call to just postpone launching a product until it's properly designed for the CPU for that CPU specifically and in fact you can see it here if you look closely at the heat pipes on the basis of that.

The coolers are specifically designed to cover virtually the entire area of ​​the CPU, so that there is no part that is not directly touched by a heat pipe or very close to a heat pipe to carry that heat to the fin stack. six plus two six plus two I'm going to plug in my sata cable early this time I'm going to get ahead of it I'm going to beat that time we're going to beat 50 minutes here Nicholas oh, what do we do? It's happening here, um Levsko says, so why does Linux make a bunch of identical PCs?

Because we're behind on updating our editing workstations. We do it about every three years, not really on purpose, it just kind of seems to work that way and as we grew we had to build more and more editing workstations each time we upgraded them, I think next time is quite conceivable that we can't find Any hardware sponsor is generous enough to send us that amount of hardware and we might have to like, you know, dude, you're getting a Dell or whatever, I'm just kidding. It would feel bad, wouldn't it? a channel that's all about building custom PCs to edit your videos on pre-built PCs, that would seem bad to you too right Andy what's up, yeah, yeah, that looks pretty nice, that seems pretty bad to me, I don't think there is way to avoid it.

We're always going to have to build our own editing stations. There are actually a handful of people in the company who use pre-made, but it's only because we had to get those pre-made for a video and it's very rude. buy a computer make a video about it and then return it so Nick is running an Asus gaming PC that we bought at best several years ago for a video so a lot of people thought the video was sponsored and I was like, You guys are crazy, there was so much criticism of the shopping experience, sometimes it just baffles me what kind of things our viewers will think could be sponsored, like you guys have clearly never worked with a sponsor for something like that, not even you know it.

I tried to arrange a corporate sponsor for your high school volleyball team because sponsors do not tolerate similar criticism, especially derisive criticism of the product or brand in a sponsored video. I mean, we are very strict with our sponsors on that, we need power. To, you know, objectively present the product or service or whatever, a perfect example of this is in Rainwave's video recently. We absolutely acknowledged some shortcomings in the product, but that's not the same as criticizing, so, okay, criticize, criticize constructively. versus what is as it is just no, but we're not criticizing it there so we can constructively criticize it, we can say, hey, there are things here that we think could be improved, but we're not going to just criticize it, whereas in the best buy one is like we came out and said, you know, you know these, this recommendation was ridiculous or we waited forever or whatever, you know you can't, you can't embellish, like saying we wait forever, you can't embellish like that in a sponsored video we try to be very careful to keep things extremely objective both when we praise things and when we criticize them because otherwise you get in trouble with the audience because if you don't keep it real when you praise it, they're going to criticize you, they're going to say, hey , you are a shill and the definition of shill is very specific, it doesn't mean someone who takes a sponsorship and says something is good, it means someone who takes money acts like they aren't taking money and says something is good even though it isn't, that's the distinction, that's the real definition, so we have to be very careful when it comes to praising things because we don't want to We put ourselves in a position where Linus Media Group has a reputation for being creeps and we have to be very careful with the negative stuff because obviously a sponsor is not going to want unfounded negative press about their product from someone they are supposed to. having to you know, promote it, so it's a super super fine line that I think everyone I think it's fair to say that everyone struggles to find their own balance, uh, keigo fox says, uh, what's the current vibe about nordvpn? um, there was one thing.

There was a strange perception a while ago and I have no idea where it came from that we are sponsored by nordvpn. We have never been sponsored by nordvpn so I have no idea what is going on with nordvpn other than what I said a while ago. The only VPN we monitor is the one that sponsors us, so it is private Internet access. We even did a broadcast with their executives a while ago when they were acquired and we had some awkwardness around them basically coming out and saying, Hey, you know, this is what we're doing to increase our transparency, this is not going to negatively impact the customer experience. pia, blah, blah, blah, we left it to our viewers, who finally said: yeah, you know, we're fine, we're feeling it.

Pretty good at this, so we stuck with them. One of the really good things about pia for us is that Tom Scott did a great video a while ago talking about uh bs when it comes to vpn marketing and one of the good things, and he actually said in his video that the video was sponsored by a VPN but they eventually pulled out and decided to make the video anyway and his problem was that he wasn't willing to say some of the things that this vp did, I mean I don't know who's right but this sponsor from undisclosed vpn wanted me to say that a vpn does it because there are many things a vpn can do, it's just part of your online security toolset, it's what we.

We've been using a sort of copycat of ours lately, but the nice thing about pia is that we don't really have any set talking points. We can ask them for guidance if we want or we can just say "get pia" like it doesn't really matter. um so it gives us a lot of flexibility on why this is not going to wait for the one above what yeah yeah I pulled it out oh I figured it out uh you must have pre-prepared that other case for me um because these tabs are in a different place, swoop, swoop, swoop, gotta make a little more room for our eatx motherboard, kind of wonko, here, so anyway, yeah, that's one of the main reasons we use pia, other than So we decided to go with them. first place because they had a good reputation when we switched from Tunnelbear and I had already been using them personally for over a year at that point, because Tunnelbear was really great for certain things and if you look like that, you can even come back as It's not that there isn't a public record of everything we've said about any sponsor, so we really sold Tunnelbear based on ease of use, but for certain power user use cases it wasn't ideal and there's no one.

VPN that will handle all possible use cases, such as bypassing the great firewall in China. Every VPN always tries to provide consistent access to Western web services and stuff like that in China, but it's always a game of hitting. -mole right where the Chinese government is trying to shut them down and then they're trying to find a new way around it and so on and so on, so as long as you do, as long as you haven't traveled to China in You've spent a lot of time with all of them. theit should work. Ed just pulled it out of his workstation, yeah, yeah, I mean, it should be like that.

The word you know should doesn't make sense, like this Displayport cable, it's a 15 foot cable, it should work, we'll see how it goes. I'll try again, oh the suspense is killing me right now, come on, you know, come on. I don't need this, okay, it detected the input. Hey, okay, let's see if all my RAM activates. Yeah, okay, yeah, I'm not going to bother with that. Yeah, uh, well, whatever, it's fine. Okay, standard or cp, whatever it is, is fine. There you go, oh, where's your Windows installer? Hit me, I'm going to catch it without looking, yeah, I guess this will be, this will tell us if the front USB where the hell is the front USB on this, oh, there it is, look, no I don't know, I seem to know this stuff, oh wait , which is the Corsair or the MSI?

Well, apparently it already is, oh, you know, there's probably already an operating system on this unit. There is probably already an operating system on this drive. It's probably already a bench unit. Oh, that's convenient. Find out very soon if it will come to Windows. Oh, Matthew Stud says I'm looking for a new chair for my work battle station. I saw that Herman Miller and Logitech teamed up to make a focused, ergonomic gaming chair. I was happy to see what evolves. to review it, please, absolutely yes, wow, look at that thing that just went off up there, didn't it?

We've got some useful stuff installed here here we'll do a quick run of Cinebench okay we'll do a quick run of Cinebench r20 just to make sure our docp memory doesn't crash immediately the 3200 megahertz system seems to be working fine man look how rips those threads, it's almost like it's a thread ripper if they only had a word to describe it with a CPU like that. something that rips threads like that the thread ripper the thread ripper okay I call it good enough just like I call this stream good enough thanks for tuning in guys how long will we live for this?

Holy shit, we're live for four hours, thank you so much for your patience everyone, don't forget, don't forget to what end, roll so I already ran it, oh yeah, I ran the integration after the first system, yes I can run it again, okay, go buy. stuff on lttstore.com and here is our sponsor, this video was brought to you by drop.com. The Massdrop x Sennheiser jubilee hd 5x open back headphones were tuned by Axel Grell of Sennheiser and Mass Drop based on community feedback from him. It has new 150 ohms. drivers and a color scheme inspired by the HD 580 present clear, fast and dynamic sound with a glossy black headband elliptical headphones that are super comfortable with replaceable soft velvet ear cushions that are also super comfortable have a detachable six-foot cable and you can get yours now at the link in the video description.

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