H3 Podcast #58 - Sean Evans of Hot Ones

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thanks to Dollar Shave Club joke and anthems for sponsoring this episode. The Street Podcast. God bless you. Today's guest. Oh, I forgot to open the thing. Well, today's guest is the Spice Lord. The best interviewer throughout the generation. well I don't know if we can say all the time I wouldn't know how to get excited I could say it friend it could be that you become that verb because you are young you have much more of your good work ahead of you, yes, but you are deceiving me. I feel good, the best chicken wings interviewer on YouTube, not only does he put out all that and YouTube complexes host hot people, the great and wonderful Sean Evans, thank you so much for being here I really appreciate you being here god bless you thank you for inviting me it's an honor I have to say one of the coolest things we've done in our career is probably being on your show I remember that fateful afternoon that was a Something beautiful like in West Hollywood your show has become like this it is so legendary in new media I think it's one of the highest honors.

I think a lot of people come from traditional media, there are probably still some who don't know what the show is. yeah, from people who know what it is, it's like that, yeah, it has a cult quality to it, sure, sure, hmmm, well, first of all, like the king of spices and the guy ate a Carolina Reaper two times on several occasions and the hottest sauce in the world is eaten weekly, sometimes daily, it is true, the eyes conquered the world of heat and a half, how is your anus?, what hole resists for all those who are worried , it's just that it's battle tested, it's military grade, it's never been better, you know, it really is like someone walking into the gym, you know what I mean, I feel like I just built a superhero anus right now, yes, what is your favorite toilet paper?

Charmin, you know, triple layer if they had six layers, 12 or 15 layers, it would be all that in a team fight weapon with the book, yeah, exactly clogging that tie every time, always looking for a good toilet paper and so far I haven't Found that perfect target, well, I guess. Also because there is such a range that I don't know what animal would use single-ply toilet paper for public bathrooms, when for another 40 cents you can have that comfortable, quality spirit. I feel like all they care about is people who accidentally comply, sure, sure, and I've been there and I'm like, oh wait, there are enough detainees at the corner store to pick up the bathroom or this or just offices or hotel Have you ever noticed that it doesn't matter how nice the hotel you are in is?

It could be a five star Four Seasons. Don't know. Oh great, they always have shitty toilet paper. It's like they decided that's the one place where we all go around the corner and... you know, what drives me crazy is that they always have like nine different kinds of facial lotions in some places and then they never have any paste. teeth, but like toothpaste, you can't get it at TSA and I always have that problem where I think I don't have toothpaste, but why not? that standard like sticking toothpaste should be in every way everyone's going, it's like yeah, I have a conundrum, it seems like because when you stay in these nice hotels, they get lotions from all these companies.

Try the lotion, you can buy it over the counter toothpaste hello there's definitely a gap in the market there we are there there's a great Eddie Murphy I don't remember I think it was a Murphy he's like I don't care how good your life is how poor soul get both - act like you know everyone can afford to apply, sure we are this luxury that everyone deserves long before we start, we paid him a little tribute, well, an appreciation of his flavor and vulnerability, his superpowers , you can say I'm excited. So here's a little tribute. If anyone at home isn't familiar with Sean Evans, that might be a shame, long pause, but if you're not just a big fan like us, please enjoy this video as a tribute and I hope you enjoy it.

I'm already into this, that's why you can do it. I'm just a normal guy, there you go, wow, that's like something that should work out of the loop in a modern art museum. Alex shouts, oh he's definitely doing his best around here. I think there's a little attention little you see there's a there's an easter egg on the t-shirt is that what you're going to point out no no what the hell are you doing I look at you don't you see that you don't see that on Eddie cool sure it's on Eddie cool t-shirt you see the little one peeking out you're ripping off what I was going to say that I've seen this joke where they wink but they like it they just distort it in Photoshop what he did is he I found you winking, another video cut it out on your face, quite convincing , was that I fell in love with it, I thought, I winked, but what that really means to celebrate is that you look like Lea and the vulnerability to spice, what is the?

You do not show it? You simply build tolerance to spice up what is happening with you. I think and maybe you could help with this having been on the receiving end. When you're doing the show, I think there's a responsibility in the interview that makes you a superhero. You know you have to like to keep the program moving and like the rhythm, so even if you feel uncomfortable, you can get out of it the same way you know how, like an athlete. in a moment of tiredness he can do something superhuman or like a mother who sees her child run over under a Volkswagen can have that super strength to lift the car and get him out of being trapped under the tire, you know, that makes a lot of sense, so I think that's part of it and I also think there's a part of it that's like I need to show a strength, a show of strength for you, the guest, like something comforting, you are who you are. the commander leading the charge I'm like a shaman, yeah exactly, so there's a part where you know if I'm getting scared then maybe you'll get scared, like I go to a Bear Grylls show and he says we have to do it. climb this waterfall and then he tries to do it and he gets scared and he cries and he fills up and I'm like I'm not going to go up there with him, you know what I mean, so if I'm getting scared, you won't do it. it goes on and part of you know it's an interview, but part of it is like helping you through this journey, you know it's a great answer that's really powerful.

I can continue like this, that implies that somehow, when the interview is over, it will arrive. I think at this point I've done it like 110 times in the last two years and it's changed, there's nothing I wouldn't expect. You know what I mean so I think that helps and then there was a moment in the beginning where it did. I'd like to improve my day and maybe the next day, but right now at this point, if I have a session at like two, I might go to the gym at 5:30 or 6:00 like I'm just starting to settle into a point. in which Maybe it's almost worrying, but at least my life is maintaining a better rhythm and you are doing some kind of regulation of your body.

Is there a doctor involved? So I'm still fine, I'm almost afraid to check it because like it's them. I'll close my way or something, but you can't eat spicy food anymore and then it's kind of stupid, you know, and everything's better just not knowing, yeah, exactly like I'd rather just not know what time I'm doing it. The question is if you don't go to the doctor you can't get it, I can't exactly, I think ignorance is bliss and that respect is fine, but then it's like I never do anything, people give me like 10 million tips during all the time. time, but I just put up with it and then at this point I enjoy it because you know, as you know, there are so many calls, emails da-da-da-da-da when you do this and how can I It's kind of an excuse if I like it take spicy photos or take a pepper or do one of those sessions where no one spoke to me for like three or four hours, you know, and I'll just walk away. at home I'll turn the air conditioning on full blast I'll put on basketball shorts I'll catch up on a DVR I'll listen to music and I've really come to appreciate that I like to play that excuse like everyone respects exactly how like they think they have to get you that phrase, but now there's a catch that actually sounds cool, yeah, yeah, so tell me about this, you know, guys, since I've been on the show, yeah, which one was the most popular?

So I'm trying to say it. Would that be Blair's Megadeth sauce with that era being the only one? Yeah, so how does that compare now? Are they still using Blair's? It's like number two or just from the rotation we eliminated it and then brought back this new one like. I was Blair that good, maybe you know I'm probably on some level, but then Blair I feel like I'm not Blair. I know Blair through people like I've never met Blair. He's like a loose man on the bench in New Jersey, but me. Also thinking that you know he had a career there for a couple of seasons where you know it's like a jersey that we hang from the rafters like he's retired, it's the Hall of Fame, yeah, he has like a statue outside a stadium. , you know, like his.

The legacy will live on forever, um, but then with that sauce is what we did. You know how to talk about consequences. You know, when you do something like this on a long-term level, we were looking into, you know, potential side effects. from a health perspective and it's good, if you use natural ingredients, then you know you actually end up reducing them a little bit, so that was our move, we had to take the line and move on to knowing more. the natural sauces were just straight based or yeah so a lot of them like super spicy

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they use an extract or whatever and that seems to really enhance that so our challenge with this is obviously we need make a super spicy sauce. sauce, you know, that's the name of the program, but then how do you make it with natural ingredients?

So what we did with this was we connected with our guy and you know my reputation grew up smoking curry, yeah, and we put them on. We talked on the phone and we thought that was our challenge, you know, how do we do this and what's so funny about smoking ed curry and then these just pepper producers in general are all like architects who are trying to build the tallest building they can. Everyone holds back, this is a farmer subculture that is crazy and the smoked curry might be the craziest of them all, so he grew the Caroline as best, I mean, before he grew the Carolina Reaper, which for years and years was in the Guinness Book of World Records. aureus pepper, notorious pepper, yeah, and then what happened is this farmer in Wales grew a Dragon's Breath chilli that outperformed the Carolina Reaper, but the smoke and the IDI are always chattering away to tell me and I'm not even sure if it's supposed to. that I should do it. share it, but he's got this war chest full of peppers, you know he's got aces up his sleeve that are hotter than the Carolina Reapers and he had it even when the Carolina Reapers were feeling down, he was a Larry over the top. so we can just dump it back like Kobe so the next point on that line was the pepper ax so we're good so if we take the pepper ax and then we know like we and here's the other thing we wanted to do it because it's not hard to make something super spicy, you know, and we don't just want a sauce.

Well, you could also use tear gas in your face for your eyebrow, yeah, so a culinary challenge isn't balancing that flavor. and then make something that tastes great, that was our goal, that was our challenge, can you really enjoy the taste of this? Tell me well, I want to say it at the end of the show because I don't want to ruin it for you, right? You're right, it's actually a talk, sure, we wanted to try this and the team wanted to try it, so we're all good, open the seal someday, yeah, okay, no one has tried it, okay, yeah, I want to try it, I want to try everything.

We'll try to finish the show while I say thank you, but tell me, compared to Blair, how far we've come. Well, I think at some point you get into the clouds where it's like you are. Just you know what I mean, there's not that much separation I think, although you just bite it if you have like Blair's are the bomb, you guys have the bomb, I think it was number eight, yeah, and a bomb, and I always see. with the guests it is always the one we are with as if this one were on top and that is true, whatever stands out in my mind, the worst, true, it is safe and it is because it has that pure extract and then like very few, if any that there is some, redeeming quality, just eating something that is super spicy, it doesn't taste good either, so it's a miserable experience all the way around, so I think having gone through that or whatever, then this seems like a respite because At least it doesn't have a psychological flavor and once you're in it and maybe you can tell me what it's like to be on that extreme and as someone who's been through it many times I feel like you know it's not necessarily like a mountain climb like If it was some kind of bell curve, you end up eating and you're like, oh, this is good and then you're like, oh, this is getting spicy and then you're like, oh, I want to die and then you're left with like a pair of wings, so there's somethingno, starting at $25, how about?" a sleek design that not only vibrates the perfect amount to clean your teeth, but also tells you when to switch sides, you turn it on, it vibrates every 30 seconds, it pulses to let you know oh those sides made you crazy Kimmy it's like having a dentist in your mouth at all times keeping a stop now you keep taking care of things there's nothing worse in life than stinky breath and bad oral hygiene I'm telling you if you are trying to get if you are trying to dip your care in some branch dressing it is necessary to keep your mouth as cool as possible and quit smoking is the best a good toothbrush will cost you almost 25 dollars This thing will last you. clean mouth.

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. So you started as a reporter for Complex, you covered Ninja Warrior Training, Kim Kardashian, book signing, FBI training course, etc., what's the most memorable moment you had before the hot wing days at Complex, oh man, There are so many crazy things I once ate like a rock? a whole day, right, and that was crazy, tell me more about that because I saw that video and it's crazy, so he has a crazy diet where he eats like nine pounds of food a day, including three pounds of cod, like this than simply Cod like Chipotle burritos or just cod.

Every day I think people don't understand the dedication and craziness it takes to maintain that type of body. It gave me a lot more respect for him, especially as you get older. older people like cod more and more like that, yeah, you just have to keep eating that cod, but the craziest thing is, well, if you look at Michael Phelps' diet, during that Olympic training he had the same thing where he ate like 12,000 calories a day or whatever, yeah, but you're mixing up some French toast and you're enjoying the thing about the ROC diet is that it's nothing more than brown rice and roasted vegetables and fish and then nuts, they just take out the plates one after one after one after one and all as much as a Range Rover tire and he would just be digging that for the kids.

I'm thinking that twisted accordion has to be crazy, so I like to go and go and go and I can't stand that like I ate like a bird, unless I can empty a G pen and go to a Mexican restaurant, so I can set some records, but as usual, I can't eat like that, so I just go to the fork and feel like I'm killing this thing for half an hour and I wouldn't even make a dent in it, no, it was like a drop in the bucket and then The next meal is always on the way, so it's not just a time I worked in a convenience store. in Colorado that was something very funny and strange.

Actually, yes, God, I had a question about that video. I watched it at the end or during that video. A stoner guy walks in and there were plants throughout the video. Hey, you seem like a cool guy. I wanted to light up a joint and I was like, there's no way this is real, so here's the thing like yeah, like during that, there's all these you know and you knew that would happen like I knew they'd set me up like out a thief and Here's the thing too: when I smoke, I'm not really a sociable guy, you know, I'm not like Rihanna.

I can't sit on the court at a basketball game, you know, I can't handle my eyes the way I am. like I could barely pass as a self-checkout, it's in this yeah, like I had to be in a room with just one or two friends, like watching movies with Sean on deck, so I even told people when I was doing it. It's like there's a 50/50 chance, at some point I'm going to say wait, I'm like a bunch of hidden cameras on me, like I'm in the middle, I'll have three frozen Snickers and just come back. to the hotel without telling anyone, yes, it was a war.

Sean was doing well bro yeah so I held on and then yeah you knew there would be plants like if he knew they would send someone who would do something weird and like that. sending someone to steal from the store so there was always like I always had an antenna outside but at the same time I also thought there would be someone helping me with the cash register and it was like okay this is how the cash register works. like it's in the back, like here you have, you know, some people come up and beg. Oh, like they bought a sandwich from the deli, like they made another date, like they really did, like they really let me fly free, but that guy.

When he came up to me and I was just hanging out, I thought this has to be a plant, but it wasn't. Dan went first, are you a stranger at the cashier? I mean, he said, hey, you. It seems cool, you want to burn here too, at the same time, like he wasn't being so polite - yeah, well, I wasn't being so easygoing with him, it was like he already had a bunch of plates spinning that he was trying to keep up with and I thought, well, this guy is being annoying and in my head I think, well, I bet he's like the stereotypical stoner they sent here to make me like him.

I was actually kind of getting annoyed with them so I was being dismissive and I wasn't really with him at all and he was just hanging out and then at some point because he would have something in my ear or whatever so he could talk with whoever is in the van or downstairs or whatever and at one point I would turn around and think: "this is like your boy" someone doesn't call him that "this is over" this gag doesn't work came out of my face " Let's move on to the next one." And I thought: Is this a guy we don't know?

Well, I'm going to go find him behind the dumpsters and so Shawn came back with the cameras as the only thing that disappoints me about it. The video is like one time I got this 19 minute cut and I thought this shit was funny and then they cut it to make it look like a bit, yeah, a 4 minute video hoping for more panic attacks, yeah, exactly like the 90 minute videos, as if cut. It came down to this very easy to eat little video that was cute I guess, but at the 19 minute mark, it was like, it was like, this is like real art, it was uh, how did you become the hot guy, how was the show? ? conceived, you're the creator of the show, so Chris Schoenberger, who runs first, he and I delighted, we were always just friendly in the hallway and we had a good relationship and then one day he came up to me and said, "hey." .

I have this idea for a show where we interview celebrities but we eat really hot chicken wings mm-hmm and the way that hit my ear I thought that was the funniest thing, so you know, we walk into a room and we're like putting all the things. Laying it all out, we brought in Tony Yayo from G-Unit to help film the pilot, so he's also helping us develop the beats and then what you see now back then, I think maybe it's like the first episode out like seven wings. We really had no idea what it was or what it would be, we thought it would be a fun show, we always dreamed of it being some kind of internet sideshow, but we never liked this aspiration, right, powerful, serious, yeah, cool, exactly.

So what you see now after 110 episodes is, "Come on, congratulations, yeah, when you say that out loud. Just yeah, it's crazy, it's crazy every Thursday for two years. Was it hard to sell to the bosses?" was the complex concept at that time so wild west, I mean, I'd like to get into some things that you know maybe could have been handled better at higher levels, but like they were out of our way, like you guys were going to do it? this. In this strange room they were so focused on other projects that they really believed in and we were kind of like whatever, yeah, whatever, like doing this in the dark and then, you know, actually I think already. you know, in a lot of things.

In a lot of ways, what helps show what it is is that there were so few chefs that weren't involved in the kitchen, it was just Chris and I and we could make this work on our terms and you know people. I would come with that Veidt like you. I know people say it should be six minutes. I brought it out and we would just say thank you, thank you, thank you, okay, great, like all these people, maybe there should be peppers, do we have to make 10? I think you already know, like everyone. these people, okay, cool, can you just go here and it's like Chris and I could still like each other up to this point, we could just be us and then because of that, I think it's given us a little bit of room to move because do we really like it?

We stuck to what we wanted to do and then now we've gotten to a point where like anyone, they can't really say yes, they can't really cross any lines because we're like this, this is exactly exactly, it almost reminds me of Seinfeld. It came up anyway, but I think that's with a lot of these floating goats, you know what I mean, if you have too many people who have ego, don't know much how, have a title and don't know much how to get in the way This kind of thing is what sinks the

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you know, but Chris and I are a little naive in understanding it while we learn, we really pay attention to our audience being motivated by growth because it wasn't always a blockbuster show like you .

The guys know how long it took them to get from 0 to 10,000 subscribers. So it's like they have to really believe in what they're doing because there's no immediate reward and I think the brands, the big media companies, don't let it. ideas evolve, you know, they don't really let things grow, so I think the fact that we were so misunderstood and underestimated and put into an hour, guys, that's what strengthened us for sure. I hope someone, I hope someone in a medium. the company is listening, they should, I guarantee they're not, but they should, they should, and if you have a budget, yeah, you're really planning for it, you know, it's one of those things that just happens.

I think you know you can, you can do some chess. moves along the way to help you succeed and you can't get people to go with you, you just have to keep going and you have a good idea, that doesn't necessarily mean the planes are going to take off. I'm sure it wasn't like that. your guys try it for the first time and it's like you have to keep hitting and hitting and hitting and hitting and then when you find some of the hits you put it together exactly exactly how I saw it, you said somewhere that the whole concept behind the show It was what you wanted. making a celebrity interview show that sucked well and I know a way to take them apart in a way that was too correct and the solution to the ones that were hot was so beautiful and elegant that I wonder if there were other previous versions. of the show before the idea of ​​hot wings came up, were you considering no, it's like Chris was saying that phrase, let's interview celebrities, but let's make them eat violently spicy chicken?

I'll never know, it really was crucial, like you just said hot wings. a pilot was like violently hot wings like he was revolutionary all good ideas can be expressed so clearly exactly in I think all great ideas or inventions or whatever you're solving for a problem that maybe people didn't even know about Had , so you know, you have the celebrity interview format, which is a very tired format, so we asked ourselves, how do we make these interviews not boring? You have so many celebrities who will sit there in a PR-driven flying pattern. How can we disrupt that?

And our response was a hot, violent, violent bias, so the show wasn't an instant hit. It seems it wasn't. I mean, it took a while. I think this is what it was, but this is what it was. would come out and maybe we'd get like 8,000 views or like 25,000 really painful, whatever, like when I woke up the next day, that's what I would say and I always thought this should gain more confidence, better, right, it's better. but this is what motivated me is that everyone who saw it seemed to love it, you know, the comments were like, this is amazing, this is going to blow up, this is going to be huge, you know what I mean, it had a bit of a cult following. fromthe beginning. so I thought, well, if we could just get more people in the tent, you know what I mean, that's all, so we talk about the tentpole episodes all the time.

There's a video you saw with me and Chili Klaus eating. one of his favorite videos are both, oh man, that was one of the first episodes, okay, and that was our first guy, I got millions and millions of viewers, like the number one thing on Reddit. I collected anything from that video when He shot it because you adored Him so much for that promise of very little and that was yeah, that's a good way to put it, but I just believed in it, you know, I just did it with me and Crispian too. because it was like you knew what it was. also to the chip on his shoulder that was created by being pushed to the side by other things, we're like, okay, you know, so we did this alone for so long and when that blew up, you're like Wow, this is crazy and then the Key and Peele was like a big level up situation where every website or everything picked it up hugely and then it helped validate the show because now we could introduce people to it because it was like so hard from the beginning, those are a great talent exactly, so they say, oh well, this legitimizes the program and also it took off in such a crazy way that now you know it helped get on the bandwagon sure mountaineers like those two things, those two videos were especially at the beginning.

I was going to ask if you had trouble booking guests at first because it's a bit of a hard sell, right? Yeah, because you know it's even to this day because on paper. It sounds so crazy, you know, like you said before, people who know the show you're on because you understand that it's not just this gimmick, you know that disruptive element in the interview, but it's a talk show first, you know? If you don't know that and you think you're a celebrity, your movie star, then you know YouTube is already in kind of a sticky situation and if you have two offers like, hey, Jimmy Kimmel wants to Interview you well versus a guy who won't sit you down with hot wings on YouTube exactly, but you know Ian, why would you like to be able to go to Sirius and watch a bunch of radio shows in an afternoon like yeah, we require an hour and if there's time.

There was a warning about the ten scorching hot chicken wings, so it was a very difficult sell from the start. We were almost safe again. People are asking for favors. There are some and this is true, since some guests from the beginning like that speech. When they saw that tone, they were like, "Hey, my goodness, it's funny, you know some people like to connect on the wavelength, but it took a lot more persuasion and a lot more seven types of smoke from the beginning to give up on that." seat". now but that doesn't take away from the fact that it's actually still a challenge yeah it's funny I think an appearance on your show would do more to promote something than all the other things combined like it's a soap opera you're that powerful .

I know it and you know it, yes you know it, but it takes some time, it's hard to know, but it's not YouTube, it's everything on YouTube and new media is like anything, but the power behind it, right, and then it's also like The fans will like to shout out whoever they want, sometimes like The Rock is someone that the fans obviously or see on the show Gordon Gordon Bill Burr Philly D until we gave him the word Hilbert exactly, but to invoice, you know he understands the word. launch and we hit him and one time I did the show that AOL billed and he was behind me.

I found out what kind of cigars he likes at the cigar store and I bought these expensive cigars and I left it in the green room with like a note you know how I've done it I you know a lot you know I know you know Bert like Bert you know knows Bill and those Joe Rogan guys know he's like a guy who wants the show so much maybe shoot him, shoot him, he can shoot him taxes You help me blah blah blah so it's like you always do that but it might not fit with them , like they've never seen, maybe they just don't like spicy food.

In fact, I would love the show. like your bill, I do, but yeah, there's something that has to make you click on Eric Andre's show, which was my favorite show. I didn't even hear about it until the third or fourth season, you know what I mean. be something that clicked well and then other than that, yeah and then beyond that it's like these people are busy like yeah and no one necessarily wants to do press, you know, if you really like it, you and I are friends like we would do send a text like how long did it take to even get this to work you know what I don't know even when I'm in LA or whatever you know it's just hard and I'm not that busy that's so true you mentioned In your goal , it's possible that in the beginning you were more or less tricking people into doing the show.

What did you mean by that? Well, I'll take it like there's a couple of things that come to mind where it would be in the DJ Khaled episode, right what he's doing? buying sneakers and he has, you know, friends at the complex that we like, he passed them off as a favor and he's okay with it, but he doesn't really understand what's wonderful, not chicken wings, you know, that's what wrong, yes, then he said. Totally taken by surprise. I remember Tinashe, she was doing a photo shoot for the magazine cover and we were like, you know, while you're doing this six hour photo shoot like it's been cut, she set up our black curtain and did this show and they were like : oh, is this some kind of ancillary value added video or like, yeah, stuck in that seat, you can watch the show like you're stuck, you're crouched down, you did everything you could think of and there's the spirit of a real climb in Youtube?

I think everyone has really gone through the challenge, no, I know and it has been learned. I've learned a lot since then and it's been such a crazy thing. I think that's probably what people don't understand. Yes this. It's like seven people setting their hair on fire every week and then throwing it into a trash can full of ice cubes just to make sure the next episode can happen, you know? And a lot of things happen with that Plinko ball when it falls before that, you know, that can take care of itself, so it's been crazy, it's been crazy, it's gotten a lot easier and I'm very grateful for that, but you know it's still a grind, yeah, I mean, well, with more views and more subscribers and higher profile guests, the pressure is there, I don't mean, it doesn't go away, it doesn't go away, plus, because once you like hunting, you know you are what you know as who it is. blah blah blah, you know, someone is in trouble or someone can do this, someone can do that, but yeah, it's, no, no one has gotten sick during the show, oh yeah, who are the worst and the ones who Have they had it worse? here so you know when you say the impulse is to go to people who tapped, you know, like Jim Gaffigan or Rob Corddry or Ricky Gervais and say those are the guys who, but actually I think in most cases they were guests only. sensible and being like that he goes crazy like he wants to leave just when I really think about who had the hardest time.

Martin Garrix really suffered for art, you know, hey, it's the people who are dying and then they keep going to the net wing. and in the next wing, Julio was passed out in our green room for about an hour, yeah, he was just there and then like it was all glass, the green room he had at the time and we were in an office space , although they We're doing people, it's not very private at all, it's Coolio who fainted, Martin Garrix, it was very funny because he was killing milk the whole time and, while it was happening, I thought that would be a problem because he can't like. away a gallon of milk without throwing up, physically fine, yeah, yeah, so you know he has a team with all these vloggers like you, who follow him and stuff, and I always think about these, you know, he's a little, he's a boy, he is the sweetest. boy we always love him we talk about him all the time and you know he had this thing where at the end he says where the bathroom is oh there and to the left and the vloggers like to follow him like you.

Shouldn't he go like back to his house and then I'd hear all these stories of people who were working in the office that we've since moved to, but like in the office at that time, a big guy that he just was? in the cubicle I hear someone throwing up in the sink and then I come out and it's just riffraff and peach talk just panting in the sink so it's like we've had so many stories, countless stories like it's all like that. blurry in one, what if which are the two? Do you ever feel bad or is it just but you do it, but then you say it's good television, you know it's part of both really good ways and they registered, so there's a part of me it's not that bad, they're not, actually they're not, but it's cool, they are.

Can you hear about the beautiful moment? Exactly, Bobby Lee. Bobby Willie was actually our next guest. Oh, he really shot his gang. So here it is all. super I can't say that you weren't in Italy, right, because I wasn't, we didn't resume La Paz Underpants or anything, but here it is all the same sitting on this side of the table in relation to Bobby Lee, he likes it, he got up like It had a sloshing sound like in surgery, like a cooler with the water level low at the bottom, yeah, it was like or it was like a melon falling, it didn't really happen, it definitely had this sound that was like any anything other than what it seemed to be, you know, wow, that was happening.

I thought, something just happened because I didn't know how else, but you know, I think he was even, you know, he's such a pretty artist. a performer that I think, as you know, he probably could have held, but he brought was like anything that would allow him to hug Peyer to have that little level of giving God willing. I'm very glad you're here. Could you please grace us with your pants I'll do is do I feel like I could my pants at any time I'm a creak guy - okay, I'll leave it I'm about to drop this melon guy I caught controversial our last guest was I thought you were shopping Bob Saget was here last week my boy yeah it was like Shredder was rubbing his feet and right after we turned off the cameras he's like dude I thought you were playing with your feet with me the whole time and it was scaring me .

I don't want to say anything, but it was really weird, it was just Shredder, I was like I felt bad, it was Bob, cool, he didn't, no, it was cool, that's cool, it was amazing, it was a beautiful moment, sitting in front of the SAG , Yeah. Yeah, controversial E, I'm saying that, I think that's what I think I'm saying, right, which guests have taken it best, you can tell what we've had, Ethan, you're pretty good, you know, it's hard to say because there's people who like just let it fly and then sometimes you have someone who the way they'll handle something in that moment is they'll just shut up and focus and whatever, sometimes it's hard to say, but when I look back, Dax Shepard had enough in him to just pour hot sauce on it.

I definitely know that in the next wing one of my regrets was not having worked harder with the sauce, I really did, because we were just having them. It's been hard, that's that one here. no, because I feel like I took a bite and took a good bite, but I have to admit that eating a whole wing, which a lot of people do in the end, versus taking a bite is a big difference, in that it's not. because it's like everyone's different so maybe you know that a little bite for someone who doesn't know they can't mess with spice is kind of unbearable for them and then on top of that, you know, it's the camera lights. .

Action with all these lights on, you know, all these cameras on and it's like it's kind of awkward, so I understand when people say, "Okay, I'm going to do this because I need to get over this, but I'm not making any commitments." crazy way to like clean this whole wing plus ten wings is a lot of food they didn't want, you know, and then sometimes, you know, because, whatever it is, sometimes we'll have a session at like 9: 00 or 10:00 in the morning, so do you ever have to go out, wait for someone, sometimes I eat fried chicken, those wings were room temperature, yeah, well that's better than ice cream, but they weren't icicles , but they were sure, they were like they weren't good.

You know what we have, we've really stepped it up by relaxing on our tripod and I think they have a lot of very expensive equipment and a lot of cables, yeah, yeah. I have heard that you have intensified the wing we have. delivery we have mechanisms and yes, we have a whole, we have a whole now, we never really think about the wings and everything because it says it really matters, even though it's right and because it's like that, you know, I think in many ways the The way that we've been able to get out of our weight class on gas is because we have this shoestring budget outfit that we can show up at any time, wherever you know, like we can do it in a LA SenorI think you know it's gotten so loud and that definitely made things easier for Chris and I so you know you look ahead and hope that that can be fixed even. more so, I'm definitely optimistic about that, for sure hmm, I want to ask you something my cell phone on the internet has about how taco gate affected your career, oh man, and the reaction has finally subsided, well, now I think now it's, it's, it's , is. born again if you can see Shawn taking a bite off the top of the damn taco twice like it's nothing it's like nothing so I'll defend this I'll definitely defend this here I defended it for a couple of reasons and no Actually, you don't know, like I did yesterday with Philly D and he mentioned the taco door.

Now it's like a whole new life with the game of tacos. This is what I think happens to me. I've always eaten a taco that way and that makes sense to me on a couple levels, like I like that tube of meat at the end and I don't really care about the lettuce and cheese or whatever is flowing, oh , I'm just trying to get to them, would you ever try to get them? like a chore out of the way plus it's a much cleaner way to eat a taco like you're not done with everything around here well the problem well it's cleaner but you're not really either but who are you to tell me?

Well, why don't you make a ground beef taco? break the shell break a little bit now you're like now you have like this fracture look clearly at the end you have to eat it properly you can't eat it from the top to the end I'll go withk Goong Goong Put that thing down and then they just take it to the other one, pause the tube down from the other side, you know, I'll defend this, oh, thank you, let's try to have a chat about it because you're a mouthful. I'll try. too many dogs, you clean it, it's not that much, they put it there, it's cleaner, no, however, you eat a taco if you're eating pizza and you just turn that thing over and eat it.

First the crust, I I would just say, well this is what you would be, this guy is a lunatic, I will never come out with this, it's something we've talked about before and it's something that interests me, I feel like on the Internet when you get to a certain size or not just on the Internet but anywhere in life to the point where people look at you and hate you, but I feel like you're a guy who there's nothing to hate because you're just a guy who makes a show that everyone loves, so My question: do you have enemies?

Yeah, I mean, I think as it gets more popular, weirder things happen and like TWiT, you know, my mentions get weird and I like it. It's not so fun anymore, you know, when I start and you post this stuff, everyone joins in because they're fans and they want it, and it's fun to support you when you don't. No, yeah, you know, people support you, but I think it's gotten to the point where I used to like going on the message boards and reading it or going into the comments and now I don't like it. Don't look because you never know when you're going to get hit over the head with something that makes you know whatever I'm human, so it's like, but it's my fault for getting into it and you know, trying to understand it.

With all of that, I think it's valuable to have that real life focus group at all times and you guys do it in the way that you're connected to the subreddit, in the way that you're connected to the fans and you know I always want that connection, but I'm not going to go any further into the comments, as you know, it's like even the things that and this are for me too, but even the things that are stupid drive me crazy. It's not even that someone is hateful or crazy about me that bothers me, like you can't live on the internet and have it bother you otherwise you'll be out of there in two seconds, but it's like sometimes they DM me, that's like, you know, kind of like, hey, my friend, oh, having a bachelor party, could you fly out tomorrow and do a live concert with us?

I'm always thinking, well dude, do they expect me to like book a flight and then go there and then what's the situation because they didn't really give me a ton of details like I'm hanging out? in the house they rented, like I'm out of pocket in a hotel and then I'll start thinking about these things, like wait, like you imagine, and then I'll come back, yeah, I'll be in the gym and I can. I don't like tossing around these weird requests and weird things and I just kind of and I'm always thinking about it, so even that's like there's so many messages and so many things going on and then it's a minefield where you might get someone who says: I hate, I hope you die, you know like that and then you say it's a little too crazy, you know it for me, so now that you're internet famous, what is it? that what has affected you the most is that other things have come up that you didn't expect or how your life has changed basically yes, I mean, yes, it's cool how people, I mean, that's good because in real life it's totally different . experience that whoever is barking at you online, like yeah, in real life, people are super cool, cool, yeah, and then you know, like companies, like, oh my gosh, you know Shawn and that to me is the best, the best, yes, the best you can.

I see people like light up or double team, a big one is someone you know, someone who has seen a lot of hot shows and then they think they are with the show and then they like to watch and then they like if you ask about the show. or they have a A question like that to me is the coolest thing, so it's a very positive experience in real life and then, yeah, maybe the bouncer recognizes you at the club, maybe you know, like you're in a restaurant, as it was today. having brunch and they're like oh this is like from Roy Troy's kitchen like oh my gosh this is so cute like these salmon fingers you know like these like these whole like these things that happen that are just amazing like even tonight I want go see Chris D'Elia and Coco at the Comedy Store and then I'm like, you know, at the DMS with Chris, hey, can you hook something up?

You know, all those things are amazing. You know, that's how even if you know the paycheck isn't there, even if the other things aren't there, maybe you feel like or anything like that, it's all good because you're making people happy. a show and then they want to pay you back, as if they want to show that they appreciate it, but as if they were doing you some kind of favor, helping them, making you laugh, making you smile or making you feel good. the way you make them feel good, so I would like to treasure it very much, yes, that's the best.

I think the real genuine fans on the streets always are, so it's so nice that it's hard to understand that it's real and you really take it. you include it because it's amazing, it's too exactly and then that cancels out, so you're like, well, if I can focus on the video and the interview and just do the next one and live it. the real world is a little bit more than immersing myself in the internet and chatter and all that, so it's probably a healthier way to live your life. I have a level of mental health on all levels and so I've been moving more and more towards that kind of thing, but I don't want to lose that connection because I care about what the fans say in the comments.

I care what people like in a discussion thread or whatever, like thinking about the show and I don't want to. I like to lose that connection at all, so I guess I'd say I have peripheral awareness, yes, I touch it, but I'm not like throwing a cannonball into that pool. I would say the same thing, yeah, I feel like we usually always know what. People think so, and when you come in and try to like it, it's depressing a lot of times, but it's like you know you have the right idea, you don't need someone to like you in your face.

I understand what you think. and I usually agree yeah like you know not everyone hates or you know there's a construct yeah and I think once you start thinking that way that's not a good thing either so you know it can It will be good to be knocked down. in the fact that everyone can tell you what they think all the time, you know, maybe it's a somewhat useful balance, yeah, it kind of keeps you, yeah, it keeps you on track. I mean, I consider your interview skills to be among the best. I'm definitely not on the load, you're definitely known for your amazing interviews, thank you, so my question to you is what is your research process like, yeah, so it's what it seems, it's just effort, you know, that's what It happens with the hot ones.

It's just by design a labor-intensive show and I think it's equally important to do it myself, you know, and not do it all myself, like right now I have my little brother doing dossiers and then Christian Berger. who is my creative partner and all this is what we're going to do is divide and conquer so I'm going to send you all the local newspaper profiles and stories and magazine articles and everything I'm going to read and with the podcast I'm I'm going to listen to if it's a artist I will listen to her music if she is an actress I will see her move just leave everything when you have booked the guest, like how much do you commit to research and consume every minute I have, so sometimes you know You don't have much waiting time, maybe you can confirm someone and film it in a matter of 48 hours.

Do you know what happens if that's what I have? So, anyway, I'm not going to let you give it all up. that's possible and you just consume everything you have to do and I think also as the show has grown you know now there's more and more expectations it's funny because like in the beginning when similar things were getting 15,000 views you're like whatever. but then there's a part of you that almost wishes, not that I want to say that, not that I want the show to crash, but now I know that millions of people will watch it, so I can't be ashamed, right?

An onerous stage, so big, that it's really like a ratchet, a ratchet, that goes up and then, you know, the viewer experience is always different because we have such a wide range of personalities, you know, because, ultimately, It's just the wings, the hot sauce, a black background on a bald guy, so to keep that at a level of longevity, people's expectations just go up, they see something and then they need to see something different or see something better, so Otherwise, it will stay and eventually fall, so I always feel that as the show becomes more popular as that process has actually become more intense to the point that everything is affection, sometimes you have to like manage your time because, as someone who is now dabbling in interviews doing what we do here, I'm trying to think more about myself.

As an interviewer and less like a comedian, you try to be funny when I sit here in front of someone, so part of the challenge I have is how to manage time, so you find a three-hour podcast and you can't listen to the whole thing. podcast, you don't have enough time, you either know it or you know it, but where you find your nuggets it's usually two, so what I'll do there is the nice thing about the podcast is that you can play it twice, so you know. What I mean is I could really walk to work like I could really play that podcast or whatever like at home or whatever before I go to bed like I could really play that podcast or that book on tape or whatever ...you, but like irritable, you will consume everything in its entirety, well, here until you know that you can find these nuggets, I think what I look at is also like at this point, seeing so many interviews, like in the investigation, I will look . in body language as much as I talk about what is being discussed because sometimes you can see and maybe like an interview that is not great, that the person doing the interview is just leaving a lot of changes on the table like maybe' They like to ask something, but because they're just thinking about the next question and because this is just kind of a formula, like they're not actually looking at the guest, so you can see where, maybe, maybe they like it.

Get a little excited and then in the next few questions the person says you know you can write to them, maybe they wanted that topic to be explored a little deeper, which I will. put that topic together in that person, see if I can find what's been said about it, what's being said about that thing, try to put together some kind of burning style question around it and that's like I know as much as finding these random truffles on the floor, while also looking at what other interviewers leave on the table. It's new and interesting and I think I need to know that because a lot can happen. the place and so many things that you need to improve at that moment and I have to like to really know that person and think about that person and make that person a box.

I'm almost like interviewing that box because I've done the same amount of research. and Christian Barry has done so much research that we have kind of like armchair psychology mm-hmm interesting do you have an interview philosophy like some kind of guiding principle that you find helps you? I mean, I think it's just you know you look. in what's interesting to you on some level, I think it's like 30%, you think about your audience to a certain degree and then you know I think what people like about attractive people is a naturally humanizing experience, so which is not like taking celebrity, which by definition is, you know theselike a diaper, it's great, yes, thank you.

I appreciate that if you want to buy this thermal mist, you benefit from people buying this personally, uh no. but it helps us make videos, I'm not sure if you know I don't get a dime from this, but you enjoy seeing the guys pay Shauna more. I mean, can we make a patreon for you personally? Would you agree with that, of course? I'm going to keep my mouth shut, there's always a minefield for me, yes, yes, but I appreciate it, I appreciate it. I wish you were. I'm going to pay, start writing a check every month, you continue, oh yeah, I'm not good at expressing. but my mouth is burning right now, actually less so, it looks like it's in very bad shape, you went for the second bite and I think it's about the artistic impression of the art, by the way, I'm totally fine now, yeah, we should try it, you have a you.

I once bought a book. I'm always hesitant to tell you that it's still here on the side. No, I'll just say I'll tell a little anecdote about one time I walked around all day with a big book hanging and a friend told me and it's always awkward to say hey, you have a book hanging, but a friend told me you have a book hanging and I was very grateful that he called me. I like to be respected, share because if I saw that book hanging and I didn't say anything that's right, you're just avoiding conflict but you're not being a good friend, no you're not, you're out of your mind.

Not if you're so moral. from this whole interview if you see a friend and he has a mistake, hang up and be a good friend and Tommy has a mistake, that's tomorrow, I'm not even the one, is there anyone willing to do it? Now you'll make me try. No, no one here is, well, this is true, well, party, no, I know, I would say about it. I think that confirms it. I think if you have 10 people and you try both sauces, I think half of the people tell you that the pepper who's better, yeah, boy, it's like who's better, Steph Curry, James Harden or LeBron James, eventually knocked down our space, yeah, like shooting.

The hot ones now, if you want, it's one, two, three, four, five, Eli, do you want one? No, yes, I don't want you to know your life. We are moving this weekend, so I will need your help, yes, healthy. So people, so you were here in Los Angeles filming, did you feel like I was going to go? You know I was hanging out with Phil Edie yesterday. That's so good, he did it. He is a friend of the program. Greg. Yeah, he's a great guy. You don't have to eat that, but I'm absolved of everything I'm sorry, what were you saying?

Phil Edie, man, his show, great guy, yeah, yeah, I was that Philly mm-hm, what's behind that door? He jumped, no, don't take one. I see your hesitation, yeah, I went to Philly dhq and did an interview with him like for his show and then he went and did some interesting ones with us, old switch, old switch. I love it, I'm looking forward to it, so you filmed. It was yesterday, yeah, so how long does it really take to produce that? So, you know, you know, with someone else, like I do it, like there's a lot of coordination, you're doing it live, but it's like you know we're going to have to do it. hits like a peg on a movie or this on an album release or whatever so maybe you film something a month before it ends up on the website maybe you're safe maybe four hits the YouTube page maybe Maybe you shoot something eight days before it arrives like our fastest turnaround time is a week and that's really yeah, it's like we're as aggressive as possible, it would be like we shoot it on Thursday, we release it on Thursday, no, yes you have, yes we have done it a couple of times, wait. you shot and posted the same day no, no, a week, oh let's take a bite, let's take a bite, I want the next one, okay, okay, in my opinion a little bite is as bad as she makes it It's taking everything, but maybe I'm wrong I don't trust you I don't trust you Did you correct me if I'm wrong?

Okay, it made my brain go deeper like when you said that, so now this one, yeah, I like the other one. one is actually about to be tastier, it's a Maxwell Wow, that one is more appealing, sorry, yes, immediately, yes, maybe it's because I've already been to that other one, it tastes better, I like it, but this one is like a deer immediately. I'm having flashbacks so yeah, they're not that one, although those touches were bigger, there are very aggressive touches, all of those are aggressive like an attempt to put makeup on Melissa, so tell me about your family because a week to edit an interview seems like a lot where I come from, but we're very, yeah, but we have a small operation, there's like a whole thing that you have a full score on, you know, we're not like that, right, you know, so it'll be like a whole thing you know. you're going to take this one hour and 10 minute interview you're going to like what I'm going to do is I'm going to go in with an editor and then we're going to like trim it down so that you just like the content so that you're involved in the editing process yeah I like to pick them you're in the At the top, you focus on all the details, you're involved, there's no part of the sandwich that I'm not involved in, like me and an amazing editor.

I want to thank Chris Murphy because he's anonymous in all of this so the editing is great yeah Chris Murphy I love you buddy and he's an amazing editor but yeah from the research to the wings no no to top it off , boy, in all aspects. like choosing music and cutting angles and everything, yeah, like he was involved in all of that. I can not leave it. I'm so obsessed with it, no, milk really tastes it and my heart is so good as if Reaper was much tougher. in the initial intake but he has fallen off the pepper.

I would say that is actually the case. It's true. If that is the correct assessment. That is a correct assessment. It's a yin yang. You have a situation with those two, the pepper X that slipped. yeah I had a second one and I thought it wasn't bad at all a minute later I'm dying it has like a late wave and like Ian because the taste is kind of nice at first yeah it feels like a tea bag. Satan, you sound like you're a teabag saying, do the fans know you're so invested in the whole team? Do they see you as the host or do they like this to be their show?

You know, some people don't even think I'm writing. questions and yeah, you know, people who actually give a compliment because it's like Oh Sean is so handsome and something I always like, usually people like to try to shoot me, but I always tell them, thank you, I really do. appreciation. true, true, but yeah, it's like there's nowhere I'm not touching and I suck it, which is actually not a good thing. I say no, it's a good thing if you want to know what's going on. all day I mean that's probably a big reason why it's so quality because the quality has been there from the beginning and it persists well because yeah, you know that way you know it's not going to be like that because I'm not going to leave it like that no.

It's going to go under because I just won't let it, so that's as far as it goes, but obviously it's such a labor intensive program that sometimes you think maybe you can't grow out of it because you're so in the weeds in every part you know, I took yes, that's true too. I mean, in our case, for example, we're doing like Teddy Fresh, the stream and the h3 and sometimes I feel like I try to work too much on all of them and I get really torn. but at least you have at least three guys here yeah you know they help keep the store up there's no trust in these guys you like these guys they're the best they're the best and they all smile I just have to bring them out here and on tour Today I want to say a big thank you to Sean Evans for coming, thanks for being the best, you're appreciated, you're loved, thanks man, is there anything you want to say to the people who do all this like, hey?

What are you promoting wouldn't work? You know, the good ones, be very careful with Shredder, by the way, okay, subscribe first, we delight if you like the shows, if you like the episodes, it's hot once it's Sean in the wild, it's the burger show . I've got cooking skills and food grilling and more amazing things on the way, so let's indulge first, you know, it's not just the spicy ones. I really think you know we checked a lot of boxes with that and there's a lot to go through, so if you're bored, you're looking for an Internet rabbit hole to go down, I suggest that one.

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