H3 Podcast #41 - JonTron

can you, you can't look worried wearing Gucci sunglasses, I mean, this is where we're looking right and you want, you want to jump on Facebook VR and watch some national tragedies, let's go to their places in Uganda, where they're so famous you won't believe they there are basically children starving before your eyes and in fact it is one of our main attractions in our VR and our Facebook VR studio, this was like remembering in Sim City where you could make natural disasters arise is the version modern that right, I want to see some natural disasters up close, how do I know he's not the one who sent the game could have a move on that algorithm is a butterfly effect somewhere on the coast of Costa Rica, area in which Facebook is very focused on so that it says that all my people in the community could tell their friends and loved ones that they were safe, we activated the beep in the community, then they look at their eyes, food shelter and usually, in the community they could provide that, if they had that, we again, it's probably trying to do something good, yeah, it just comes out every time, it's like, how can you not know? the optics of this I love others there is in it there is more I would watch this all day wow there are like 4,000 of these this is a very underground meme I think we should make a video about this yes, maybe that's what it is right now so it will be uh so you I want highlights I hope you enjoy them you know there's bound to be a highlight and they'll include this part.

Okay, now let's cut right, where were we without the hood? Okay, let's switch here. Well, let's get this out of the way. Yes, it's the elephant. the room yes, I see, I was wondering what that was, oh yes, it was horrible, so intrusive, yes, you had an infamous debate, yes, with a debate that got you into a lot of trouble, it happened how long ago was it not now I do. I don't keep track, I don't know like nine months or something, there was a lot of backlash and a lot of people upset about what you said there and I guess my question is: I don't want to go too deep into this because this is a fun and joyful time.

I'm not. I don't want to debate anything with you. I don't want this to be anything negative, so if you're uncomfortable with things. Like you don't have to comment on anything like I know you're over it and it was a very difficult time for you yeah I'm sure people want to know about this so I'm just putting it out there the way I haven't talked about since then for a good reason I don't really want to get into this, it's kind of a minefield. I'm not going to go back and criticize everything I said and rated or anything else.

What I will say is that yes, at that time I was, you know, going into something that I needed a lot more time to prepare for. I just went in guns blazing because you know you get a little cocky sometimes, I guess you think like me. I'm going to take this kind of assignment, but you know I obviously understand why people had the reaction that they did, it's not like you know I look back at some of that and think, wow, I said that! fact no matter good or bad, it's bad luck, you know, I'm aware of that, but you know, yeah, it's pretty simple, like I'm not really going to get into that, but oh yeah, I guess the main question of all . the mind is everything here is the erasure this is a nazi simple answer and this is what everyone wants I mean, you know, no, I treat every person with the same respect that they give me, so you know, I felt bad for him incident in the sense, but like I also feel bad because we can't talk about these things without witch-hunting each other, right? yeah, I could express a lot of that better, it was all like that, just to put it in perspective for you, when the moment I got on that broadcast, it was an instant hit, hit, hit moment, right, I wasn't.

I was thinking to myself that I can. It would be strange if I said, "Oh, sorry, the microphones broke, I don't like to relive it now." Did you have many moments of self-awareness during that before all the time you were like, oh my gosh, shouldn't it be? wondering if it was something personal, I thought if they are, I'm not the person to fight this battle, well let me tell you for the record. I don't agree with a lot of the things you said, you know, but I, but I. You still think like it's you if you really feel a certain way or if some people genuinely feel a certain way, the right way to deal with that is not to stop them from saying it, yeah we've been seeing it, we should be able to do that.

I talk even if I totally disagree and even if I'm like a friend, that's all, but I think we should still be able to talk about it. I mean, I don't know, it's complicated, but is it an impossible task? For someone like family, if you say something they really don't agree with, it's an impossible task for them, it's like I really like it, I'm trying to convince them, I really don't agree with it, I hate what he said, but I still love him as a person and as an artist, I guess it's an eternal question, yeah, well, it's been the adaptation that he's had over the years, you know, but at the same time I really think no, I just don't want to, I really I don't want to.

I don't want to get into this. I would like to move on as quickly as possible because I don't really want to get into this, but I mean, I don't think it's a stretch to say that the current social climate is crazy, yeah, and we. I'm sure and I want to say that the only way to get over it is to just talk about things I don't want to. I'm a community I'm not really trying to get back into this, but people always ask me this. Put it to bed now, you know, I treat my answer: I just treat people with the same respect that they give me in the end, right, I don't want to hurt anyone, yeah, it's just and that's me, I don't want to get into that. past. that's fine, that's fair to you, yeah, that's fine, okay, I want to ask you, tell me if you don't want to talk, but I wanted to ask you things that I find interesting, not necessarily about your actual opinions on those things, but I like more about the consequences of this What happens with that?

I mean, how did you like the sponsors and the fans? How do you feel at that moment? Because I'm sure it's not a great moment, no, it wasn't great, but I mean, you get over it now. I mean, as you grow, you learn, you know that you can't be perfect all the time. I know some things are bigger than others, you know, but no, I just took it easy, I really thought: I like making people. I like doing comedy, people still want me to do comedy, so clearly yes, I'm still going down that path and I don't really feel like putting it out there because it's pointless, I'm not going to get anything else out of myself.

From that on, yeah, like there's nothing, I have nothing to say, I'm just more interested in the trip that you had, I was like you, you went through it, it was something that sucked, obviously, and many times past and like you feel. like you learned a lot from it or you're in a better place, now you learned yeah, I've definitely learned that one of the most important things I've learned is that you know how to moderate yourself or rephrase an argument well. right, that comes out a certain way right, you know, it's hard to overlook, sometimes you just ruin a year when you have all eyes on you and also sometimes, and I'm not really making excuses, this is like sometimes, when when There are so many eyes on you, you just totally break a little brother.

I can play, that's something I'm trying to work on with myself. It's like you go from being a normal guy, they can say whatever you want, yeah, to being someone that millions of people are looking at, yeah, and you need to learn to be considerate. I didn't realize the impact like the powerful nature of yeah, you don't do it because you're like YouTube, we live a little bit more of an independent life for YouTubers. so yeah, I think in general I like to be more reflective, I don't know, because people respond better to absolute calm, that's pretty much, you know, that's the main conclusion for me, it's better in all the aspects, yes, for everyone sometimes, but it is difficult and I did it and you were an emotional state, yes, I was an emotional state and I will tell you what defending is not, by the way, I just want to say for the record that I am not defending what you said, I'm just saying it again for the record.

I don't agree with a lot of the things you said, but okay, yeah, I like it, I'm not going to be like I keep talking about it. That's part of the problem, is that people were like, I can't believe you're still here. He's a friend of John's and I wonder why he's the same person, I love him, he's a good friend of mine, we can talk about these things with each other and try to find common ground, it's much better to have a record. a conversation and try to understand each other, otherwise you will end up with segregated groups, people who hate each other, yes, you really expect me to back away, you said something I don't agree with and I can't talk to you anymore, like Yes, it's sick, yes I agree I mean yes that's why I didn't want to go into this too much because I don't want to I just don't want anyone to take anything I say out of context I don't want to I want them to say Are you making excuses for this?

What do you think about this? You know it's just this. I'm just giving you something in general. I forget what my train of thought is here, but I like that it's something I'm just focused on. in comedy, that's fair, I understand it's a wait, sir, by the way, you are doing very well, thank you, there are many videos, we are really good, thank you very much, how was this, yes, and I and I realized from you, I mean. You, you disappeared from YouTube for a while, how much time passed between Derth? You know that was mostly just me reorganizing, but it was for a while, six months.

I did it before eight months, yeah, yeah, I guess I mean you. Are you known for just disappearing? How am I? Well, I would like this to happen. I never talked about what's going on there. Well, usually the thing is that I've never been wonderful at consistency and considering that I do most of these things. Regardless, considering I do most of it myself, I have to like get it done now and you know, I prepare the budgets and everything, so sometimes or, for example, you'll notice that in that break we build a new set and all that. and you're like fixing the lights, sometimes it takes a while and it's not like I can't do it quickly because I usually edit them and it's very thorough, it takes me a long time. an editor, it's great, you know, I have a team, yeah, I'm very involved.

I guess I always like when I post something for me to feel like it's one hundred percent how I want it to be and that's also a weakness. since it's a strength, yes, yes, but that's how I am and how I've always been and it works for me, so yes, I wish you knew that I'm doing the best I can right now, especially I'm trying to overcome my fear. of just trusting my instincts because sometimes I think I don't like this or there's something I call upload phobia, yeah, kind of like what I feel when, especially if we take a break for some reason, it becomes It's really more difficult to come back to that, the more time you spend since you publish those cables, you come back, yes, that is very true and that is why I will tell you what, yes, because the expectation is greater on your part, you come back, that is why I like.

Better to have the best view ever, he said, six months to work on it when it comes to YouTube. I feel like you just have to keep the ball rolling. YouTube is and could be that it can really wreak havoc on your mental stay. Sometimes, sometimes, sometimes. I'm really like I don't know, I'm out of ideas, you know, I don't know what to do. It's fair. That's fair. I think what I love about your channel and what I've always liked is that there is a myth between them. youtubers that if you walk away from your channel you will die yeah we all feel like we caused a ruckus and you just demystified that I feel genuine if there is someone to prove it's me it's good to encourage it it's good to know that you Actually I can just walk away for a good amount of time and come back, and your fans are still there to enjoy your videos.

Yes, I know I love my fans seriously, even though it's us. I know I never speak candidly about this topic, so I'm not used to it, but no, I really appreciate the fact that people come back and watch the videos. I mean, I put my heart and soul into them, but I'm planning on really breaking up next year. I've already made a couple. videos and I usually come from what I normally do, but I'm going to do some things that really won't even be in the same format, but you know, the thing is sometimes you have to take risks like that or the element still lingers, yeah .

I don't really know, I would say what I've noticed since you came back from your most recent break is that with the nude there's definitely a new direction, there's a new feeling and I mean he's going to love it, yes, thank you. very fun and it feels fresh, you know, your junk eyelashes, you really feel like that, yeah, absolutely, yeah, I mean, and beyond that, like they're really good, yeah, it looks like the bananas turned out the same, oh man, I get flex tape messages all the time now. Do you know what's funny? I was literally like you need to, you know what, so no, I was like at my local pub in Manhattan and I was like drinking a beer and I and I saw the commercial on Like. a television screen next to the bar and I was likeYou see, I'm sorry, I'm not sorry, oh, that's it.

Sorry, sorry, not sorry. I won't see Jimmy Fallon anymore since he stirred up the air a little. I swear he apologized for this. He could grow up. I think he apologized for that. He was trying to amuse me. That's horrible. I can't tell, man, so by all means show us. Yeah, yada, yada, look, I thought we were just going out to have fun, one thing led to another, I was ruffling my hair a little, yeah, it's an introductory mood, okay, I guess let's look at a couple more things here that make their way through here, one thing I did.

I want to ask you a lot of people this was the number one question on our subreddit so I feel compelled to ask you. I'm not going to pressure you to say what you want about it, but a lot of people, even to this day, I know it's crazy, people are weird about this, you know what's coming in the game, people want to know which one. It's the real story, but how much you want to bother the game, you want to catch me. I'm just asking the questions people want. Honestly, it was nothing, just some creative differences, that's all, please stop asking me, okay.

I mean, there are people who are like a subreddit called that. I'm very happy for them, there's no hard feelings, it's okay, is this really yours? number one in our summer look I don't want to just here's the thing if I sit here and leave I can't answer that I can't answer that get worse there's nothing no big deal it was like five years ago you know we we were just in different creative mascots and that's it it's a very fair and respectable answer thank you for your candor yes I got a joke when in reality I was pretty proud of, okay, whose show is this piece?

They say that Rome fell, we always talk about the fall. of Rome, how do you think that does it? I think you can take a flight there from JFK. The Roman guy you live in Rome comes out and says: Hello, in the fall, it's here, it's still here. What do you mean he's standing right now? Saying that to people who say funny things, you know what comedy is, you're a big Star Wars fan. Oh, also market it so that I never see anything but Star Wars in all my peripheral vision, right, yes, but I would love Star Wars, my favorite things in case you forget, yes, in case you don't remember, Have you been following the debacle with the new game?

Oh yes, I have to say I would. I just bought an Xbox One. It's a very good system, I'm working and everything and I saw like, you know what, I don't think it was Battlefront, but it was like World War, Call of Duty, World War II and they were selling it for a similar price. It was like a hundred and ten dollars, only 89 and I'm like, since when, yeah, Battlefront, that's the new Star Wars game, it was like 80 dollars, oh no, the Xbox, I was like, when did this happen?, yeah, I went on an excursion, yes.

I thought the 600 was like them, I guess it was the collector's edition, but I remember when we were kids, games used to cost 40 bucks, hmmm, do you remember that, um, PlayStation, well, also bus rides in Israel used to cost like nothing. Everything, just change that. I refuse to believe it, that was the end of an era, went from 40 to 60, it's been 60 for a long time, feeling like, do you know what I've been feeling? They are trying to improve, but they can't really succeed. because it looks like you're going to get it on Steam for $5.00, yeah right, the thing is with the battlefront what made people angry, if I understood correctly, was the fact that you could buy you could only pay in Darth Vader for about forty. $80 was a little big, it was just a lump sum payment to win a skin like it went into the sun and I have to say something because I'm big, you know, I was just by the way, I'm back at the counter. -strike and I haven't played since my Steam name is still there and I've been racking up kills on Saint John the Divine, the John skin.

I know it's a great skin and by the way it's funny, it's just an anecdote we used to have. we played a lot and then it was the holidays and we bought $300 skins and then we never played but we used to call John Saint John the Divine anyway, you know all, no, what I was saying was microtransactions III, I like them, really no They don't care because certain games support microtransactions forever, like skins in Counter-Strike, it's amazing, ro no, I don't think anyone has a problem with skins because they are cosmetic, yeah, cut it if it's just cosmetic, God bless you bless and earn money. and make cool things that I can choose to buy, yes, but the moment it affects the game, yes, the balance of the game is up to you.

I'm going to be honest with you. All I have to say is are they that stupid. to do something that is stupid in such a big game, you expected it, why would you put Pay2win in Star Wars? They are just shameless, they are running that model to the furthest edge, yes, of the universe. I don't have anything that seems morally against it, but it's like, come on, Yin, it's really them. I mean I don't even feel like they provide entertainment per dollar like other games like csgo, it's like 15 bucks, best game ever, they update all the time. like why did you get a charge, I get that it's a big company they need to recoup their investment, they invested hundreds of millions of dollars into these games, I get that, but it seems like they really set some crazy prices.

Okay, they're testing a limit of like gameplay, they're just trying to find the sweet spot of gameplay first, how much money can we really get out of this game? Yeah, and that means you know that's what they do, but it's annoying because otherwise it would be a fun game, but no one. want to work for 80 hours just to play Darth Vader, yeah when they're 80 they pay $80 for the game well yeah I mean the funny thing is I know this was like a big deal that you don't really buy for Some reason. It never bothered me. I think it's a bad business model.

It will fail naturally. No? I feel like this is the first time because I have this article here that says their stock actually fell 8.5% and lost $3.1 billion in shareholder value since then. The launch of Battlefront is a bit bad, but it's the first time I've seen a company come out ahead, but on the other hand, if you pull back even further, like last year, their stock went up by an ungodly amount. it feels very high up, I mean, it's an EA, it's just one of those big faceless corporations and they just let you know God knows how in touch they are, maybe they think it's a good idea.

I don't know, they have algorithms and guys with graphics and by the way, I want to say that I'm talking specifically about competitive games, like mobile games, especially that it's okay to buy them if you have to monetize them. I'm not saying in general, but when you have a competitive game. I play when the people with more I guess that's the moral dilemma it's like you have a competition and the people with more income get an advantage it's kind of silly to give them that it ruins it ruins the integrity of the game yeah you know that right?

You actually get an advantage by being Darth Vader or Luke. Yes, I think there are also elements of the Bible that make you better in character. Oh, I played the first one and I just remember that you would get them as an item like you. I'd like to run up to it and you'd see I think they changed that oh I don't know I haven't played this game yeah I can't really comment on it yeah well it's interesting. I have a ton of videos to watch, but we've covered the record over there for quite a while, right, oh, we've covered a lot of ground, my friends never talked about Jim Carrey, oh well, you want to talk about it, that's cool, I loved it Yes, I loved it too.

Speaking of Netflix, let's say what we're talking about, okay, the documentary on Netflix about Jim Carrey's role as Andy Kaufman, oh, do you remember what it's called Man on the Moon, no, the documentary, oh, it's called whatever you want, Andy Yes, Jim and Andy. Yeah, yeah, and while he's talking about playing this role, he changed, yeah, and I don't know, it definitely made me think because he's just talking about how he likes the underlying messages, like he gets everything he wants. and he was still unhappy, yeah, definitely, I mean, it's an old tale, right? But I tell you yes, coming from Jim.

I guess it's especially Jim Carrey, like the funniest man. One of those dates he gave me so hard that he was like me. He played the guy who had no worries so other people wouldn't have to worry or say yes and I thought that's kind of convenient, but I tell you he just, I don't know, he just met, I think it's funny because the Half the things I was saying I was right that makes sense the other half I was like you're crazy yeah you didn't break character look I was crazy yeah there was definitely something like that and you can see that before our new one is like a little embarrassing, I know it's funny because it's like he's Jim Carrey, you're supposed to be like wow, what a method actor he is as Jim, you don't have to be in character, it was really interesting, though yeah , really interesting.

I think it's like I think he really did Channel and for him Andy Kaufman because it was all about how he never knew what he was, you never know when to stop, yeah, he would take the character so far that you never knew what was real and what was fake and the fact that they recorded it makes it, yeah, like another side on its own, the fact that he had a documentary and a crew with him, it was all like a performance, yeah, yeah, I mean, he was very aware Of that, I think probably less than him. continues in the documentary, have you seen the man on the moon?

Actually, I've seen it, yeah, I mean, apparently it's pretty good, yeah, I can't, uh, yeah, I read the article. I'm a couple of slices tomorrow it's coming to you we ate too many we'd go to that I was in the freezing cold you know it wasn't like that we see we had a great night something great what do you know and if I ever come back In this I'll just compile all that madness yeah and I'll bring it to you so people can see that one year it's going to be a special little cassette, yeah, okay, let's get drunk.

I need pizza guys, thanks John, thank you so much for coming, thank you. you have me thank you for not appreciating and I love you I love you say back I think I think very well I think you're a great guy and you're not like you do either and back to you thank you guys thank you all for tuning in and spending the day with us the we love we appreciate you coming next week is what I'm saying Philip DeFranco wild spray on Friday I'll post the thread to post your questions for the guy waiting to see you Guys so thanks for tuning in and watching yeah thanks for watching until next time , Tata.