Green Beret Justin Lascek Leaves Joe Speechless

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and I have I heard and you saw the show last night, so I talk on the shows because Sturgill just let me back off. They blew me up in March. I was in the hospital the year before. I would like to get off a deployment. 11 months before the second one was bitten at the bottom of the landfills, he got divorced, if a guy died on the first trips, it was like he was very difficult to deal with and then he was listening to these guys quite a bit and then he directed in the Next deployment I was there for a month, boom almost died pretty bad, my teammates saved me and we had blood on the ground like I had blood on the target and then they made a hell of a move to get me to medevac.

Long story short, I'm having dinner at the hospital, one of the first meals, playing with these guys and I was like mom served Simpson and then she tried to contact them so I finally did and he was there for like two hours. Now I made my friend. General Beaudette, you waited about 15 minutes so we could finish talking about what you're talking about, which when you're an enlisted guy you don't make generals wait, but I was taking a lot of ketamine, so that's sweet, but uh, so I I jumped and thought that he was going to make a donation of his own free will to the foundation, so this little tour that is taking place and that coincides with the actual release of the album is a donation to the Special Forces foundation to help the gold star families, which are the families that remain the rest of the friends that were killed on this trip, so there were four Green Berets in your D technicians and that money goes to them and that's what I care about.

I don't like. I am alive. Don't have. any leg below my knees for those, anyway I can't see my legs in the video but I don't have my testicles either so it's a different set of challenges but I don't mind being taken care of more than the normal army processes , but I want them to be taken care of from the foundation so I'm grateful to have these guys as friends now that they're amazing, they're amazing musicians but amazing people and then I'm grateful to be here and just to push that and so people comes to the shows, all that money goes to the foundation and then people can go to the foundation's website, which is Special Forces Foundation.org and yeah, I appreciate it, it's awesome, yeah, it's really cool.

It's really cool that you're doing this and thank you for coming here and telling everyone. You know, he says, "It's a great way to help and your music, you know, connect to that." That's an incredible thing, it's really cool, you know, when you sent me the text messages telling me that you were going to the hospital, you know, it's very touching, it was like, yeah, yeah, you were, you know I could tell you were seriously shaken. for this and you know, for someone like you who really understands the consequences of war, like the physical consequences, in a way that none of us will understand, you know that not only is it very brave of you to talk about this, but also it is regular. valuable, so valuable to everyone that that has not helped us understand what it really is, so thank you for that.

Well, I always say I really like combat because there was a lot of it relatively speaking, but a lot of guys have been in a lot more combat. a lot of people tried lower. I'm a doctor, but I've been in a fair number of times I almost got killed on the first trip and then I don't like the aspect of war when you see your friends get killed and you're stuck in a hospital bed on top of all this stuff, you know. , I didn't do it for a week, I peed blood for a week, I've had tons of nights of excruciating pain, it's the life of an amputee or there are guys who are worse than me, so I'm grateful to have what I have and yes, that's the beginning, especially with ketamine when you're going through all that and you're like I was telling you, like the people who took the trash in the room like hey I'm grateful for you bro like a certain bro what is it?

What does tasting mean? Like after a catastrophic injury like that, does it relieve the pain? Does it just take you to another dimension? So ketamine is a sucker for MDS, yeah, and ketamine is an NMDA antagonist in the brain, so essentially it's a dissociative, so the way it feels because we learn this in class as a doctor and Everything except the way it feels is something that requires your perspective and it's like it always feels like a whirlwind when you're getting a push, but things are like you're starting to mask your vision and your prayer, but you you're dipping into the subconscious because you're still conscious because unconscious would mean you're like you're passing out and you can't have a gag reflex depending on how unconscious you are, so ketamine would close your eyes and immediately trip over the craziest balls you can imagine, I opened and came back. in the room I'd be like what the hell, and then a friend of mine when I left my first rotation, he was an Air Force CCT that got blown up in the same town I had some casualties in, he put in an ID, it's upstairs -in knee, he was missing some fingers, but when he was on ketamine, when he was awake and he looked around, he would see the walls on fire and then there would be women with pale white skin in the corners, peeling the skin off their backs and he was like I wake up and I'm like Judas, yeah, like whatever, I don't know, it must be like someone's psychology when they go on a stage and a type of stage, but I was there when I took a lot of ketamine and my legs blew off.

I'm working on it, I tell the guys how to treat me. I cut my shirt off and then I take ketamine and I go in and out and I see these visions back and forth and like I'm convinced I was. There were two different moments where I was like, I'm not going to make it and I had that conversation and the surreal thing about it here is that you were talking to him on this show and you guys were talking about combat medics and you were like me and I just. singing in key and I thought they were talking about me and then I got emotional all kinds of things that makes you appreciate makes you appreciate life and I went through a big development last year through depression and then this year after this. explosion of being grateful and introspecting and communicating and having empathy for other people and being a compassionate human being, which General Mattis has told a group of us on the way back from my first trip, is like not letting this War experience makes you a more hateful human being because people haven't experienced it, it allows you to go through post-traumatic growth and become a better human being and treat other people the way you want to be treated in a tree and I would add to that. which came from Tim Ferriss, treat yourself like you treat other people;

That's not a side of Madison that you ever hear in the press, eh, I guess not, that's something that would be very valuable to people who didn't know that he thinks that way. It's a very powerful way of looking at this inevitable, you know, inevitable consequences of the war that started to pull me out of the deep end to focus on that after that trip. Yeah, that ketamine spill is weird because a lot of people do it recreationally and apparently. They take off and go to other dimensions and somehow enter a k-hole. I never made it so strong.

I knew it. Friend who died because of it. I was really interested. He is doing a lot. What happened? I don't know about Lincoln's infection. I know he was probably doing a lot of other things too, but he was being treated for ketamine addiction and then the time was up when you can dose ketamine, yeah you didn't, it doesn't kill you, you can. give a child 300 megs and they will trip, but they will not die like the opposite of all other drugs. I think he was taking others too, yes. I think ketamine was just something that was treated. because I think he was doing a lot of speed and stuff, which was originally ketamine, not a cat tranquilizer or anything like that.

They gave it to my wife's best friend's vet and she was definitely like Jack and animals on ketamine. The world is increasing now and just like civil hospitals, they started as a veterinary medicine, what I mean is it works very well and you combine it with other things. Know? John Lilly is not such. John John Lilly was a scientist who was a pioneer. in interspecies communication he did all this work with dolphins and he was also a big fan of acid and he would like to take acid and he would try to communicate with dolphins supposedly he didn't give acid to dolphins he was part of this long running program to try to do let the dolphins talk to him, but one of the things he invented was that there was no movie about this, there are altered states, in no way altered states, based a lot on John Lilly because he invented the sensory deprivation sensor to give dolphins ass. . from the movie not because it was just loosely based on him because in the movie the guy experiments with a bunch of different types of sensory deprivation tanks and everyone knew that this guy was a legit doctor, a brilliant guy, but he was also a fan of ketamine. and one thing he would do is take intramuscular ketamine and then go into the sensory deprivation tank, yeah that's a double whammy sweet yeah a double whammy so is it hard to get out of that stuff or do you have to worry about that? a withdrawal symptom, the problem would be with pain, like when you have something that controls some kind of level of pain and then you quit, usually you'll stop doing it, but it's not a physical addiction problem, you know, I should know that. the answer is definitely, but as a doctor, yes, but I haven't heard of anything that works, they had you on other things much harder to get out, oh yeah, I was on methadone and the French shooter Sturgill and Duff McKagan came along.

He went to the hospital and Duff said methadone is worse than heroin because Jean, our guys were having a good time, but that was like, I mean, once a week I took 20 MiG instead of 10 and it was like being an addict for nine hours. It was like rubbing my legs as if, because they are lit up with nerve pain. It feels like there are daggers in your leg or some kind of electrocution. You look like you're in a movie, like someone has collapsed or something. I was just like rubbing myself. We used to see these guys come into the pool hall when I was playing pool in White Plains, they'd walk in and there was a methadone clinic down the street and they were all hero people and my friend Johnny B called methadone.

Ian because they came in, they all had kind of a boring kind of shuffle to them, they were all slower and I can never understand it, it was like I was like this was culturally like did anyone agree? Did we do some kind? okay like these drugs, okay, this has, you know, it has some seal of approval, so we accept that they have to get methadone every day, but they can't get heroin anymore, why don't we give them heroin like? How different is methadone? Is it methadone? drug them, let's synthesize them so it's easier to control, but does it get them high?

I didn't have any of my own oh, it's just fighting the physiology, yeah, so it's just fighting the physiology that they Don't you know you'll never get a great love for the first leg Houghton narcotic, yeah, like the other one, the adverse effects , but don't people have the best effects with ibogaine and things like that when it comes to opiates? taking opiates, yeah, I mean, if you want to go through that, I would say you know that would probably be your best option, but it's a quick fix, if that's what you want to say, you don't like the method, it's actually bad for you.

Isn't it yours? I didn't sleep, I didn't have deep sleep for four months and I went to bed at 9:00 and didn't fall asleep until 3:00 in the morning, that's all - yeah, it's a pretty shitty year and how long Does it take you to stop methadone? I mean, once you stop it, the doctors said it stays in your adipose tissue, which is your fat, for like two. or three weeks because I would have random nights where I wouldn't take it and I would get nerve pain and it was like I was getting hit with a hammer and my toes, so probably for two it's probably like six weeks of weaning from that and then I went to another drug letter, I mean, for you I had to feel because you were there, at Walter Reed the whole time you had to feel frustrated, but for someone like the first time I came to see you it was only a month. after the explosion at most, so he was still in a lot of pain, he's in more pain than I could understand if someone is inside, you know, from his pain, he feels how many surgeries on each leg, it's about 30 surgeries in total, it which yes, there are many.

There's also a staple in your back, yeah, before they took it off, I mean you, just describe the man, like someone you know can and then he stood still, like he said the first time we met, he was high like giraffe balls at the Academy, but like me. He impressed me deeply even at that time how lucid and articulate and obviously he was because theYou guys are brilliant, you know, I mean, like you, just through the fog and awareness of everything going on in the room despite the fainting and the pain I was trying to pretend he wasn't in me just and then that place is full of guys like him and everything, then when I came back they were like new faces, you know these people, but then when I came back the second time I went to see him, he was there for a couple of days and it was like in a matter of little time was leaps and bounds and you're using the gym with one leg to do 20 pull-ups and all you know is like there has to be something we can do, anything you can do to help. anyway and these guys have been up for as long as I've known him, I never heard him ask for anything, his only concerns were the kids' families, he didn't do that you know, so it's like they really were. around an album release, if I'm going to have a lot of attention on me, it would be a good opportunity to pay attention to what other people can do to help these guys and their families because they know that the sacrifices are especially important. these rooms and looking at these guys man, even you can't, you can't, you know what you get, what's that called?

Yeah, well, I want to help, so after the show, let's figure out what we can do to jump. I come in and I want to help, so help with the podcast, help with some comedy shows, maybe anything we can do. I think you know what listening is. I'm impressed by all of this as much as I think all of these. people are listening and seeing this is um, it's beautiful that you're doing this man and I think you know, I mean, it's inspiring me to do something, I think it's probably inspiring a lot of other people and those are those things of the what people talk about. about one thing you might experience you're here in life that somehow changes your view of the world that takes you in a better direction this is this could be one of those things that you know well you're a good man I thought well I'm not grateful any thing, man, he's, so, I'm just a guy, oh, you guys are just an amazing guy, y'all, it's cool.

I'm very happy that they are raising awareness about this. I'm very happy that they do it. It makes me feel great, listen. You know, like Justin said, the tragedy side of war, I guess, so it's not that you know if there's right or left, it's just that this is reality and people are making these sacrifices for you and when they come back to home, what do we do? do it for them, you know, it's hard for people to accept that war is inevitable, it's a difficult speech and it doesn't seem inevitable because it's not inevitable in this room, I mean, if we were the last people on earth and there were a bunch of food and places to sleep I think we probably wouldn't kill each other we probably wouldn't go to war, right?

What is the number of places where you go to war? Is it a million? Is it two million? it's just mountains or limits the fact that no one thinks that war can be resolved just as no one I know thinks that in our lifetime there will be no war there has never been a period where anyone on earth who is human has not been going Going to war with each other is a horrible truth about being a person and no one, no one knows, the way you do it, for you to come and tell your story like you just did.

I appreciate that man's departure and would just like people. If you hear that and it moves you, it's more like you're regularly grateful for whatever it is. Yeah, I mean, Steven Pinker was on your show. I ended up talking to him as a result of all this, but as he has done it. That book about basically the Enlightenment worked and we still have war and there are people still fighting against it, but overall the world continues to improve and constantly improve and fewer and fewer people die from genocide and war, but it still exists, so I would like the respect for war if someone wants to go to war you know if someone is going to be commander in chief and that's it, it's a heavy thing that I like to throw around, you said it means I might never have children. because I don't have my balls you know so there is sacrifice like me and I am the one who lived and I didn't have children but since my friends have four girls my other my other friend has three children so In a year, if you are going to move the chest piece to war, then we must understand the implications of what that means and try to do everything within the political power in the state strategy to avoid war because yes, it is especially unpleasant for close peers.

I mean, that's Russia. Russian nuclear war would be the worst. You know, that's what the third war is. Mutual assured destruction is the strangest thing in the world. We all have enough guns pointed at each other to literally bomb every man, woman and child on the face of the Earth. times and that's what prevents us from using them, but we still have them and we haven't pointed them out yet. I mean, remember when you were kids and we were worried about Russia? Remember I maimed my guys and I'm worried about people walking on target with a suicide vest, yeah yeah, when is that going to happen?

Yeah, you can be sure because Europe has been dealing with that for decades, you know, we still haven't tested that like it's on a regular, widespread scale.