GARCÍA LUNA visitaba la casa de SALINAS y esto podría salir en el JUICIO EN EU

It's good, it's interesting, advancing engines here, friends, and well, I'll take this opportunity to present Anabel Hernández, thank you, I was telling you, I hope, I hope, I don't know what's going to happen here, a space called journalists, we understand each other well. Yes, I believe that you who follow us listen to us and listen to us. See well we can give you many details to see the Ram well but you know her she has a very consistent career in the journalistic field in Mexico and Sorry for interrupting you Alejandro but I'm already used to it We have here We have here on our table You know it books books and we consult with journalists and non-journalists.

But we have here this book called The Presidential Family that Anabel Hernández published together with Arely Quintero in 2005 as a result of journalistic investigations by both during the six-year term of Vicente Fox and Anabel told me that there it all started because it was the book then came the end of the party in Anabelle's pines then came the President's Accomplices of 2008 then the drug lords 2010 Mexico in flames 2012 after This terrible book of truth Night of Iguala no Of course of course and now this In the middle of an important episode, for example, Anabelle slaps Vicente Fox in the face with that towelgate.

This woman is this woman. If you don't remember the towelgate scandal, well, towelgate was at the beginning, it was the first bleeding for Vicente Fox, but Anabel has been, well, universal Millennium this suddenly collaborated process suddenly with reform well well report indigo well well well Anabella has written for many years already in the innate cream of the Mexican media and some foreigners and now she brings a book I told her a moment ago that it seemed to me the book the most out of print book of hers you're finished more Yes good finished finished first for the style Because here I recognize a Anabel She is already much more rested who brings all this all this that seems so easy that a journalist accumulates all this over the years and then You have the privilege, just look, of having access to the diaries of one of the key figures in recent years, the vicente, son of Mayo Zambada, has access to the diaries.

In other words, the image of this book that perhaps you already You saw, I'm going to pick it up and I'm going to see it, I'm going to put it here on this camera to see if they can't. There it is in the back, we're watching it. If you're watching us on television, you'll be able to tell or on YouTube, you'll notice that it's An image is a clown, it is tough, the cover is jealous, that clown is painted, let's see, tell us about it, well, I already arrived at the publisher's offices and showed this this drawing and This must be the cover of The Traitor's Book and the publisher The truth is that I was very scared because suddenly someone who does not understand the context can seem to be a mockery, an insult to the journalist, a license that the journalist takes to learn as a joke not to a topic as serious as that Sinaloa Cartel and all the massacres that this criminal organization has caused and yet I told the publisher that it was important to publish this this drawing because it was journalistic material and it is unpublished first-line journalistic material because it is the self-portrait of Vicente Zambada Niebla, it is not my mockery, no.

It is an irony, it is not a provocation, it is the way in which the son of the most important boss in Mexico in the last 50 years, that is, and on the planet, we would say that this is the most relevant Cartel on the planet, Ismael El Mayo Zambada, who is the boss. of bosses through the Diario del Vicentillo, that is when one realizes that El Mayo Zambada for 50 years has been the boss of drug bosses in Mexico, even above Amado Carrillo Fuentes, he sees the fall from a distance to Rafael Caro Quintero to Miguel Ángel Félix Gallardo and he continues on his way because he was above that he his empire.

Unlike what we had all thought, including me before having access to this newspaper, he does not believe the El Mago stamped no It's a Made In Mexico product. Let's see explain that. El Mayo Zambada is a Made In Us product. Hey, made in the state, he grew up there, he became a narco there in Los Angeles, he brags in his dialogues with the Flores Brothers there in Chicago. I don't understand you. because it is one thing to sell drugs in Mexico but to come here and sell to someone, no, that is a man, no, because that is how he was born, he really is his real godfather, the one who involves him in this whole great world of international drug trafficking is a brother-in-law, an anonymous Cuban. about which it was not known until now Thanks to the fact that he told it to Fernando Gagiola, the lawyer of Mayo Zambada del Vicentillo who became an informant and that he tells me how Mayo tells him I owe everything to Nico to the Cuban to the Cuban drug trafficker who is in Las Vegas who goes to buy shovels who spends fortunes on prostitutes in houses where he has King Zambada with a Lamborghini the king brother of Mayo Yes with a Lamborghini driving in Las Vegas and it is precisely This opulence is this showing off his goods what is the unhappiness of Nico who is finally arrested And that is where Mayo Zambada understands that I can be the boss of bosses But it is better to keep a low profile, he is also the boss of bosses and is a capo made in the United States because the The relations that it establishes with the United States with the United States authorities are fundamentally key to the power that Mayo Zambada has had and continues to have and apparently will continue to have absolutely because in this newspaper and in the dialogues that I had for five years with Fernando Gagiola talks about how directly some parts of the United States anti-drug agency, the DEA, directly protected Mayo Zambada, Chapo Guzmán, Vicentillo and all the other partners.

And how there were even bribe payments by Chapo Guzmán and Mayo Zambada. to elements of the DEA anti-drug agency And how thanks to this protection in Mexico and the United States is really how this criminal organization becomes the most important in the world, which is terrible and is our domestic problem that we have to see how we solve but you see that this criminal organization has a presence in 70% of the planet at the time and things always have to be said at the time, not in the past, that's why I remembered the book, your first book, The Presidential Family, where Vicente's abuses are documented.

Fox of Marta Sahagún and her accomplices, including the family, but in the specific case of, for example, Genaro García Luna, not only during the six-year term of Felipe Calderón, but also the sections of Vicente Fox when García Luna was director of the Federal investigation agency. You already began to suffer from García Luna and you began to document what today in the United States seems to many to have arisen by spontaneous generation and the book the book appears in December 2019 in the context Well that luck too luck is also built but The book appears in December 2019 just when, on December 9, Gerardo García is arrested in Texas, we are going to tell you so we were Álvaro.

One day Álvaro and I were watching García Luna and I had received this copy just as it was and I started early to finally see it in scrubs and that day, the day Genaro García Luna was arrested, this copy, I think it was not yet in bookstores, we had this copy here all the time and we were reading it from that one, I say, it's called opportunity cost and Your book comes out just when it appears. That's luck, but luck is built. In other words, if you hadn't gotten to work, they couldn't have eventually stopped Barcelona and that didn't happen because my research on García Luna was the first book I published about him in Cómplices. of the president in 2008 and then in 2010 the Narco lords where he already stated categorically based on the information he had obtained through the investigation that he had obviously obtained that he worked for the Sinaloa cartel, no, and today Álvaro cannot understand the protection of the Chapo Guzmán al Mayo Zambada al vicentillo as something unrelated to the protection of Genaro García Luna That is the secret key to the judicial process that is being carried out today in New York against Genaro García Luna because one thing is directly linked to the other to protect Genaro was to protect the cartel and there were heads of the DEA who in the six-year term of Vicente Fox and in the six-year term of Felipe Calderón heads of the DEA here in Mexico representatives of the DEA in Mexico who were part of that plan to protect the Sinaloa cartel and that at the same time they protected Genaro García and it seems to me that those are the uncomfortable issues that would be good to see in a trial beforehand.

I tell you that for the gringos, just as it was uncomfortable, that's why Vicentico never received a trial, as he contacted me in 2011. lawyer, which is an interesting story. In 2011, he contacts you. You see him first in Chicago and that relationship begins, well over several years and a professional relationship between a journalist and a source of information that allows you, if it hadn't been for him, you wouldn't have arrived. to absolutely nothing and to understand precisely the framework that explains the power of the Cartel. What is the American part, which is the part where there were people from the anti-drug agency.

I don't know to what level the authorization reached so far. I can't tell you this, but yes. At least at the level of heads of the agency here in Mexico and some in the United States, without a doubt because it is a signing of papers because then contracts are made. You are my informant, I make you a contract and they are contracts that are validated in the Department of Justice. They are not jokes when with friends they are not jokes, they are very formal about it. So we are talking about protection and today we can only understand this protection and impunity of García Luna for so long because of these agreements and the interesting thing about García's arrest Moon is that it seems that these agreements have ended, the protection of Mayo Zambada will continue.

You suggest something based on the frustrated operation to capture Chapo Guzmán's son on October 19 in Culiacán Sinaloa. You say that it was not fortuitous that he was let go. and the operation is put that the uprising of the hitmen as the justification for seeing him for letting him go, that is, it was not, we cannot believe this government that let him go to take care of lives. Well, look, but for other types of arrangements, I really don't know. I don't know what level of information President Andrés Manuel López Obrador will have. I don't know, but what I know de facto is that whoever argued to the president of the republic that that afternoon in Culiacán, the Children of Chapo Guzmán were superior in number, power, and control of the city, the government was lying to them.

On that day, there were at least nine thousand elements among the military base that is there in Culiacán, they did not have to go, they were there in Culiacán, the police base, the State Police base, the base of the Municipal Police there was a series of numbers of police officers who could have control of a second element is that they had a risk for the population Show me Show me the videos because Culiacán when I am investigating the murder of Javier Valdez I discovered and it is obvious how other cities exist of Mexico as it existed in Iguala and on the terrible night of the disappearance of the students there is a c4 there is also a c4 Mandy control in Culiacán where Culiacán is surrounded by a lot of security cameras on the main avenues your government your secretary of public security citizen and you military And you Navy want to tell me that there were really lives in danger show me please we want to see it well come in at some point were some ideas some Facebook videos Forgive me I no I no I didn't see a we saw a vehicle with a con one this mounted 50 that comes out we broadcast it live almost four hours four hours that day live a vehicle with about 50 comes out in the mere center of Culiacán The quickest less easy to identify and then they also shoot inside the one where the unit is housing of the military in short, maybe that part of the risk, but the other part, no, I don't believe it, I don't believe it, I don't believe it, because if there had been a real risk, I would show you how a democratic government is forced to see a transfer. total and tell you Look These are the c4 cameras That's how the city really was to me what it seems to me is that there were many many fireworks to weld it to use them as a justification for look look it's messed up we have to let it go I know the history of that operation and I know that there was precisely a military man who thought he started calling some journalists who were as part of his sources of information and since they had him detained he is the first one who He begins to say that we arrested Chapo Guzmán's son because I believe that these soldiers thought someone from the inside wanted to free him and if we spread the news that we had already detained him, they could no longer force him to free him.

I believe that the army, if you ask me, he fulfilled his function, it was a successful operation, they arrested him, they did not have him in their house, that tells you that it was an intelligence operation, they arrested him and it was a successful operation, they fulfilled the mission, they stopped him like that, that's how they arrested Chapo. Guzmán in a small pool of sailors no these these operations do not occur en masse Yes because otherwise they get frustrated it is not a small group that has to do this this operation of of of of effective of of taking the detainee they already had him arrested this half you were the information say that say that say that he is the son of El Mayo del Chapo Guzmán the media long before the government began to leak this information after the military man himself already called these same journalists and said vi that it was a mistake say thatIt's not true, the photos are already on social networks.

Excuse me and say that it was a mistake. Obviously, there is an order and a counterorder in a short period of time, why did others take it? No, well, there were several versions. We started by saying that we agree with different versions. Exactly, we are going to take a cut. very quickly Anabelle if you allow us And we'll come back And we'll come back to talk more about the book and so on and so on Hey, it's a great book, we're always preparing, we're always somewhat in agreement Álvaro And I, what do we want to ask right away of this woman that we have the pleasure of having here? at our table and then I shot, you hope that García Luna's case is an open trial and whether Anabel mentions names or not.

Let's see the process against García Luna, the investigation by call in one way in the United States began at least in 2014, it is a long long time. journey that DEA Belize agents took to be documenting all the movements of money from properties to be taking up testimonies long before Chapo's trial They had not already arrested an accomplice of García Luna, this man Iván Reyes zarzate whom I mention in the traitor In the traitorous flirtation I wink of caution because this arrest of Reyes Zarzate is just the beginning and it was like that because really after they had Iván Reyes Zarzate who was a very important official the federal police arrested him in the United States in 2017 Arzate Start counting all the bribes.

This is normal. My boss, Carlos, received bribes. For God's sake, this was very normal during Felipe Calderón's six-year term. Yes, he was in charge of the federal police and Reyes Zarzate was responsible for the contact between the DEA and the Federal Police at that time due to responsibility for reviewing the information of Luis Cárdenas Palomino and Genaro García Luna. They murder an informant from the anti-drug agency. And that's when you know that's when you touch the Americans with one of their people, yes, no. I know, yes I have access to the trial but they don't say who the informant is and not because Zapata was the one from San Luis Potosí Yes, yes this informant is right, we don't know who he is but they kill him and when you give him to the gringos You take away a hair from his people, that's when there is no longer García Luna, there is no turning back because they had already confirmed that Cárdenas Palomino and Zarzate had indeed been involved in the death of this informant Because Luis Cárdenas Palomino thanks to the information that Genaro García Luna gave him, he is accompanied by Zarzate laughter with Arturo Beltrán and says, Hey, well, you have an infiltrator here, you have here one by one, a person who is sabotaging you and such a person such a person who works for the DEA and Arturo Beltrán Eva He tortures and murders him.

That's when García Luna's destiny is marked and when he no longer has any future, why is García Luna's entire General Staff free and doing business? Well, what I can tell you is that the six-year term ends. of Felipe Calderón and a fundamental key man enters to understand all these things, who is Humberto Castillejos Of course he was the advisor to the presidency Of course the name with the greatest influence on the ear of the ear the conscience the will in the decisions that the president makes Enrique Peña Nieto and Marcos Castillejos had already been investigated for the murder of his people who were extorting him and Humberto Castillejos, son of Marcos Casillejos, criminal lawyer riddled with drug trafficking in the Condesa father-in-law of Luis Cárdenas Palomino Humberto was a friend, accomplice and ex-brother-in-law of Luis Cárdenas Palomino and a very good friend of Genaro García Luna then with the beginning of Enrique Peña Nieto's government And that is why now the government discovers that there were contracts there were public videos that reached gasoline because Humberto castillejos was there Humberto castillejos and Juan collado Of course because there is there connections there where the case of García Luna is much more important If we want if someone wants to thoroughly It is really What is the narcopolitics that allows all this massacre that we ordinary citizens in Mexico are experiencing daily García Luna is a much more key piece that El Chapo because García is not an ingested man who has been involved in the Mexican system since 89 when he started working in the cisen that his name that was created practically fed raised to do the dirty work Because in these systems like the Mexican you are always the dirty people who are willing to get their hands dirty and part of these people was without a doubt Genaro García Luna Cárdenas Palomino Facundo rosal rosas and all those because they were there for years inseritos takes us to another another group of characters in turn well Rafael Moreno Valle, for example, because the first one who hits him at the end of Calderón's six-year term is the one who quickly grabs Facundo and protects him.

Facundo is the author of the Bala Law, for example, he does not. In other words, he protects him because it is Rafael Moreno Valle because Facundo was going to do him Moreno Valle's dirty work in matters of intelligence And of course, at the end of Calderón's six-year term, Cárdenas Palomino also jumps into this Salinas group company, statement that he is now an advisor or I don't know a professor of López Obrador Exactly Well, today nothing less than one of the states of the republic, largest, most economically powerful and also full of crime. The State of Mexico, a subordinate of García Luna, today is the chief of police Maribel Cervantes.

And what can you say about Omar García, what is important? He says no. He says no. that he only saw it twice he just needs a signature let's see he doesn't even need to see it he just needs a signature he just needs to be told yes you can stay in this key position Omar García harfuch was the delegate of the Federal Police in the Federal District at the time when the Federal District was the warehouse of the Sinaloa Cartel according to the rezabada and this position was his immediate boss you know who it was you know who it is that Luis Cárdenas Palomino had to sign and only Luis Cárdenas Palomino could sign if he saw it García Luna that Mr.

Omar García Do not think that we are babies that we are still sucking our fingers we know that for these matters of complicity it is not necessary to see you every day It only requires a second and a signature Yes in presence it is given the instruction through representatives we remind him that there is not the slightest doubt he is there. He joined the Federal Police in 2008 as a deputy inspector. And you who have investigated also know that a Come up inspector, he is not a private soldier there, he is already a person with a level and he immediately begins to ascend and ascend because only that could only exist because García Luna allowed it, there is no other way And how can he have slipped into the four t because That's the question, if you ask me, I don't know, but it's my question and then we see all this disaster in public security that we have in Mexico City and we think, This is the person who is going to solve it. turned the DF into the warehouse of the Sinaloa Cartel here, I don't know how they're going to do it.

No, I can't imagine we're talking about the warehouse. Mexico City was the warehouse of the Sinaloa Cartel then during Felipe Calderón's period when the boss The government was Marcelo Ebrard Marcelo Ebrard did not know that, yes I do not know because what Vicente Zambada is talking about and I must say it clearly, he talks about the Federal Police, how King Zambada helped them unload the drugs at the Mexico City International Airport talks about how this drug was transported to different points in Mexico City warehouses by the Federal Police, I must honestly say and it is not a matter that I am evading, it does not mention other police forces because why and it seems logical to me Because if it does Mainly, the drugs were arriving mainly by rail, the warehouse here in Mexico City and arriving at the airport, they are not local protection zones, we know that the drugs were federal authorities.

And I suppose that is why those who guarded the drugs from the airport to the warehouses were federal authorities. That's not how he doesn't narrate, I can't say anything else because we have a character who, in December 2012, when Felipe Calderón's administration ended, was already a millionaire in dollars, says the United States prosecutor's office, today says it. That's Genaro García Luna. How not? Did Felipe Calderón realize it or did Felipe Calderón not realize it, rather that is the question, that is the problem you have in Felipe Calderón and not only him but several others who, according to the information that I have, people who feel with him water up to my neck who thinks the one I follow is me who is asking advice from certain lawyers asking what I should do the rope is coming to my neck what I should do I'm going to run away I disappear I mean I go and collaborate people of good standing are requesting advice because I advise lawyers because they are already seeing that the water reaches their nose, it is not on their neck, it is about to reach their nose and they think from here until I drown from here until they arrest me I run away I do agreements what do I do what do I do what do I do before among them is Felipe Calderón well I couldn't answer that because if not then I'll kill the note because the effectiveness of justice doesn't leave the note but regardless of that we are talking about the fact that there are many people who feels totally in danger by Genaro García Luna and it also seems to me that we are talking about You said about Felipe Calderón Felipe Calderón Of course I knew I had recent and recent information I say after the publication of traitor where they comment on a dramatic scene where There is a meeting where Genaro García Luna is where other government officials of Mexico are, Erick Holder is there and it is on and they are broadly discussing the issue of the attack by García Luna's federal police against the CIA in Tres Marías Of course and they are talking of a series of videos that show the mechanics of the events and those videos are missing no it is not known where they are and a Calderón government official tells him I do know where the videos are Mr.

García Luna has them Eric holder turns around and He asks him, "Where are those videos?" mouth because what he is explaining is so implausible and what happened is so clear that they do not want to talk about him anymore and with him and Calderón knew it, many people warned Calderón, be careful with what you are doing because this man is doing this the gringos are no longer even a part of the gringos because again when we talk about Los Americanos Larry Larry Holyfield had his friends and he had Agadis no who were his friends who protected him during the six-year term of Vicente Fox and Felipe Calderón no But on the other hand there were Other people who were critical said something was not going well here and at least one of those was the son who told this man we do not believe anything else.

He is not a valid interlocutor and they never met with him again and Calderón knew it he knew it he did not You can say that he knew that and we go further if we believe Edgar Valdez Villarreal who sent me this letter before the Barbie ended than ending Felipe Calderón's six-year term that I published in the reform says Felipe Calderón participates in meetings in Arcos with us There I was negotiating, I say he is a criminal. I learned one thing and that is and that is why some things in the American system work and I would say that is why some of these investigative books that I publish work because the truth is the truth Although I say it as a liar Yes yes yes of course when the truth or a criminal when the truth is a factor it is a fact Let's see it doesn't matter who says it I mean it's a journalist No if it's a nun if it's the pope if it's a president the truth It has the strength of its own weight Because in addition what Barbie says in 2012 is ratified by the king The king we pay him we pay millions to Calderón we have to go but I am going to say this Anabel has like very few Mexican journalists talking about the risks of García Luna, I'm making it elegant by talking about the possibility that García Luna is part of organized crime, so if we have to believe Anabel, today there is the information, she has warned him, at least we said 10 years ago, so there is the information.

Anabel, it has been a privilege to have you here in the journalists And of course we are going to go in communication because tomorrow is the hearing of Genaro García Luna, the second hearing there in New York can reach an agreement with the Americans, you can also reach that agreement reveal Who else was involved in this thing fatter Exactly that is what I say that García Luna only Felipe Calderón former president and I would not limit myself Yes well he served him in the AFI and then further back Carlos Salinas gave way Carlos Salinas you have not said but one but Carlos Salinas asked you Anabel Yes Carlos Salinas protector of whom Genaro García Luna in the last years of Felipe Calderón's six-year term became very close and was a visitor to his residence I published this in the book México en llamas and Recently, who visited Anabelle here in Anabelle, Genaro García Luna visited the residence of Carlos Salinas de Gortari before and there we are talking about other levels of corruption of narcopolitics, about much more important things, there are more fish there because for García Luna to have an agreement that I think that it is not an agreement that would free him from prison but perhaps from life imprisonment he would not have to give bigger fish and it seems to me that there could be some bigger ones in there.protected witness Well you have to be useful for something well for something of course Guzmán but I have to testify against him no How is this story going Anabel Thank you very much thank you for being in the journalists the journalist Anabel Hernández we will return