Fraud Fighters: Hackers expose illegal call centres and phone scams (Marketplace)

The person you have been talking to is a tele

phone

scammer. Tracking scammers in our own backyard. You were involved in a scam, would you say something to the victims? He has a job offer from a bank right now. Almost two hundred thousand dollars. $69,000. And... join forces with the best

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fighter. I have been able to see exactly what the scammer is doing. A one-hour special investigation... The police came to your house on Friday and we were the ones who

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ed them. Your Marketplace starts now. Hello Nelisha. Hi David. We are on our way. We're getting closer to a criminal...

I'm about two minutes away. Tracking a money mule to Brampton, Ontario... Well, that's one of the people involved in sending money stolen from Canadian victims to organized criminal syndicates overseas... and we want to take them on. It's taken us months to track it down... Hi, we're journalists from CBC News. We are looking for Abhinav Bector. Part of our fight... for you. The Canada Revenue Agency filed a lawsuit against his name... We have been investigating

phone

scams

for five years... I receive at least three or four

call

s every day. It's really frustrating for a lot of people.

And you're telling us that the calls don't stop... Some of these calls come at 6:30 or 7 in the morning. With millions of dollars lost every year... And scammers becoming more sophisticated... You're simply anxious about dealing with any contact that comes through your phone. The authorities have not been able to stop them. We are now tracking those involved in Canada... The government should take some action. How come, you know, the RCMP no one seems to be doing anything and these are increasing day by day? Our 2018 investigation into phone

scams

helped pressure the RCMP to launch Project Octavia. Alright.

We know that 10 people have been charged. And we know that there are victims throughout the country. Crack down on those believed to be collecting money from victims and sending millions overseas. Alright. So who do they arrest? Jatin Chahal, accused of

fraud

, money laundering and possession of property obtained by crime. Haoran Xue? Yes. There is now a warrant for his arrest. He is believed to be in Hong Kong or China. We don't have a photo of him. We have covered this story. Well, fraud over 5000, theft over 5000, possession of property obtained by crime. Alright, next one. Vimal Shrestha and Bindisha Joshi.

Alright. So, fraud over 5000, possession of proceeds of crime. They launder the proceeds of crime and are believed to be in Nepal. Chen, Rita. Fraud over 5000, possession of proceeds of crime, laundering of proceeds of crime. And your case is closed. Another person involved in these scams? Abhinav Bector. In Gatineau, Monique Lafrance is one of Bector's victims... Monique, I know hundreds of Google Play cards. From different places. An accomplice contacted her... He introduced himself as a security investigator from the real bank and told me that my accounts had been compromised, he asked me if I wanted to help them find the scammers and help others.

They trick her into giving them access to her computer... and her online banking... So I have to ask you: Was there ever a time in those days when you thought this wasn't right? Often, but he kept showing me, you know? Every time he questioned it he kept showing me the amounts he supposedly had in my accounts. What she didn't know...He was stealing from his savings...and covering it up by transferring funds from her line of credit to her account. Creating debt that has wiped out Monique's planned retirement... They took over a hundred and fifty thousand of my credit margin, and then they took everything we had in our accounts, which is maybe another forty-five thousand.

Almost two hundred thousand dollars. Yes, almost two hundred thousand dollars, yes. I know. It's crazy. That's horrible. I really feel for her, and it's such a horrible kind of scam because we have to trust our financial institutions and for people to exploit that and deceive someone like that, that's terrible. Financial crime expert Vanessa Lafolla says phone scammers are more sophisticated than ever... What is it about phone scams that makes them so difficult to stop? Telephone scammers are born psychologists. So these are people who really understand the vulnerabilities that other people have, and they're looking for those vulnerabilities, trying to find them, exploit them, and trap people, make them worry about their safety, make them worry about their immigration status, make them worry. worry for his family.

You're talking about people who are so practiced that once they find the right person for the right type of scam, it's almost too late for you. Surely too late for Monique... Where did she end up? Mainly in Ontario. Send thousands to more than a dozen different addresses... One of those cash packages is intercepted by FedEx and returned to them... But the others? Twenty thousand dollars in cash to an address in Mississauga, Ontario. Yes Yes. Another twenty thousand, this time to an address in Brampton, Ontario. This is being sent to Cambridge, Ontario, six thousand dollars. And these go on and on.

It's crazy. It's really crazy, it makes me a little sick just thinking about it. We are now learning that Abhinav Bector is connected to some of these places. We're reviewing them... I'm in a big FedEx building. According to our records, we know that our victim sent two cash packages here, one for 6000 and one for 7000. Bingo, Purolator shipping center, so another courier dropped him off. Okay, so check out my document here. 110 Brickyard Way, 20,000, 5,000, they were going right there. Locations chosen to avoid scrutiny... Looks like a FedEx location once again, 6000 shipped here. In fact, it looks like it could be a Staples.

Alright. We enter. We know they sent 6,000 right here. Not all packages are easy to decode... Different names are used for different addresses... But there are clues... Two packages are addressed to: Abhinav Bector and Abhi B. It seems there is a company called Unique Furnace and Duct Cleaning . . Well, that's funny because Abhinav Bector worked there. He worked in that place where you are. We know that on September 22 they sent him $8,000 here and he signed. A clue that the police also find... Accusing Abhinav Bector... Let's see what we have on this guy. So, three charges were filed, so we have fraud over $5,000, laundering the proceeds of crime is another charge, and possession of property obtained through the commission of a criminal offense goes to court, it doesn't go to trial.

He pleads guilty. He pleads guilty. But he only pleads guilty to one of those charges and that is, essentially, possession of stolen property. He completed 50 hours of community service and was told not to contact his victims for 12 months. He says he was just helping a friend. He didn't know the big picture, he says. What I find interesting is that he now himself has a job offer from a bank. From a bank? Think about that... a man connected to a massive scam... could be working at a bank... and no one would know. Let's take a look at the victim impact statements.

So, victim number 1, I feel personally violated, my entire family now fears for my safety. Victim number 2 lost a lot of my trust. Feeling extremely angry, embarrassed and stressed about this scam. This victim says it took me weeks to stop shaking. Normally we don't come to a residential area to confront someone. But this is an address that, at the time of the charges, was connected to Abhinav Bector, so we'll knock on the door. Hello, we are journalists from CBC News. We are looking for Abhinav Bector. Do you know who he is? Don't you know Abhinav Bector? Okay thank you very much.

It seems like Bector has wandered away... but we'll find him... because of all those victims... I kind of lost everything, you know? I mean, everything we've worked for is destroyed by these crazy people. I can't understand how they can even think of doing that and looking in the mirror. I don't... How can you hurt people like that? After further searching...we have tracked Bector to an apartment building...he has never directly apologized to the victims of his crime. We want to give you that opportunity. Abhinav, this is David Common from CBC Marketplace. We just hope to talk to you about the scam he was involved in.

Sorry Sorry? You were involved in a scam. He was just wondering if he would say anything to the victims. Hey, nothing. So there are people who have lost 200 thousand dollars, who are going to lose their homes, who have to continue working. I was just wondering if you would tell them anything else, Abhinav. Do you feel sorry for it? Anything you would say to your victims? So nothing more. Convicted. He says in court that he's sorry but he certainly wouldn't tell us. We learn that he has paid restitution to his victims...55,000 the total amount he claims to have received...Next up, Naman Grover.

But others have yet to see his day in court. Fraud over 5000, possession of proceeds of crime. Laundering of the proceeds of crime. We focus on other alleged money mules operating in Canada...he is connected to Bector. And then...he's fine. Next up, Gurinderpreet and Inderpreet Dhaliwal. A case that we know well. Two years ago, our efforts contributed to a police blitz... Gurinderpreet Dhaliwal, 37, of Brampton, Ontario, and Inderpreet Dhaliwal, 36, of Brampton... Only our cameras were there during this takedown... At that time, the RCMP explained how they believe the Dhaliwals were involved in this scam... They were essentially money mules, or money mule managers, who would receive bags of cash... and then essentially disperse them and They made them accessible to those who ran the business.

Illegal call centers. This was seized by the RCMP at his home. Money counting machine. More than $100,000 in jewelry and thousands of dollars in cash. One of his alleged victims is Melissa Steele's elderly father... The total is sixty-nine thousand, is what happened. Yes I know. Its alot. He was already struggling with cognitive decline: he lost much of his life savings...he received one of those calls saying that he owed tax money and that he was in trouble. He ended up driving to his bank and taking out money. I think he sent four or five packages of cash to two different addresses in Canada.

What does it mean for your father's life that sixty-nine thousand dollars were stolen from him? It's challenging. He had to move out of his house. You know, he's now eighty-six years old, so he has some health problems. Nothing has been proven in court against the Dhaliwals. His trial will take place next year. But... We want to talk to them now. Teaming up to fight back... How many people did you save? 300, 400 people. They are really good at this. Oh boy. The fraud

fighters

will be back soon. This is your Market. Laundering proceeds of crime We are investigating alleged Canadian money mules...

Shantanu. Yes. Connected with the Dhaliwals. It is believed to be in India. He left too. Those who allegedly funneled money stolen from phone scam victims in Canada... to criminal bosses abroad... Gurinderpreet and Inderpreet Dhaliwal were accused of doing just that... Here are all the summaries of the shipments. While his trial won't be until next year, we know that some of Melissa Steele's father's money was sent to the Dhaliwal home. This is his actual address. Yes Yes. What would you tell them about the consequences of his action? I would say it's cruel and how would you feel if someone treated you like that when you were older?

They reject our request to speak... But we have questions for them... Well, there it is... Because their alleged victims deserve some answers... Inderpreet Dhaliwal, I'm David Common with CBC Marketplace. And we are doing an investigation into money mules in Canada connected to phone scams. I would like to know if he can explain how so many people sent so much money to his home address. If he doesn't have an explanation for that, can he say something to people who are potentially losing their homes and can't retire? no comment. Don't you have any comments on what some of those people have gone through?

Do you think... can you explain why you had a money counter at home? Why did police recover over a hundred thousand dollars worth of jewelry when executing a search warrant? I know you can still hear me, please. If there is something you would tell them, anything. There are a lot of people who have been really hurt. Don't you have anything to tell them? Nothing to say, no comment. That is the totality of what we have. Days later... Inderpreet Dhaliwal's lawyer reaches out... Saying the RCMP has mischaracterized her as an "international crime syndicate player" When it comes to phone scams...

The Mounties have been promising action for years ...It's essentially a national priority investigation... But now... an inside source... a senior RCMP official... Tells us that phone scam investigations have fallen off their radar... So We asked him, what is the status of the investigation? The RCMP financial crimes unit? And he told us that, starting in JanuaryAs of 2021, the RCMP financial crimes units in Ontario were disbanded. Can you give us an update on the Octavia project? There are no further active investigations by the RCMP. You heard right. The unit that specifically targeted Canadian scammers no longer exists! So we said to him: Is fighting fraud considered a priority for the RCMP?

And he said flatly, it doesn't seem like it. What does it mean for Canadians who continue to be targeted by these crimes? They will continue to be victims, they have no recourse... Our sources tell us the RCMP has now dismantled that financial crimes unit. Look, it seems to me that our public authorities are as committed to policing financial crime as my Tinder dates are to a long-term relationship, by which I mean minimal or none at all. This is very reactionary, it's a temporary thing, it's "Oh my God, there's public pressure on us, people are looking at us, we've run this project, it's been great.

Look, we've arrested some people. We've invested all this money in it, but we won't give it much. That's not how it's supposed to be. What's the consequence of that? It just makes Canada a more attractive place for people to participate in these types of scams. here and the police won't chase you and no one will detect it, no one will watch it, no one will prosecute it, why would you stop? The Mounties refuse to talk to us on camera But officially, tell us that your financial crimes investigators continue their work. in another unit. And it points to its integrated market enforcement teams as the new fraud

fighters

.

Except our internal source tells us those teams have nothing to do with investigating phone scams. There is no longer a dedicated team to do that. The priority it once was for the Mounties is no longer. In an industry like this that operates with impunity, the message is being sent that Canada does not care about this type of crime. Law enforcement may no longer see this as a priority... But others do... So we're partnering with famous fraud fighters around the world who are winning against scammers... Taking them down from within . The police are involved, the politicians are involved, everyone gets a cut of this money.

The fight against global scam continues. We've been investigating phone scams for five years and we're not done yet. If you have a story you would like to share, let us know at [email protected]. This is your Market. We're facing a global scam from the inside... It may not seem like much here, but your life savings are being stolen every day... Those scam phone calls you get...? Millions come from here. But this scammer... He's on our side... he agreed to meet us in New Delhi... We're protecting his true identity—calling him Casey Hunter... ...because they could kill him for who he is. doing now...

How many scam centers have you worked at? -At least ten. - Wow! And which countries is he heading to? I've done America, I've done Canada, I've done Australia, I've done England. Casey has been working at India-based scam centers for over five years... And how often do people fall for it? Let's say that in a day there are always three or four who fall into the trap. Every day. Every day there is someone. Once they find someone vulnerable, they attack relentlessly, threatening to arrest them unless a payment is made. I have seen someone on the phone from ten in the morning until five in the afternoon, constantly on the phone.

They are persistent. Yes. Sometimes these people burst into tears. They say we have never done this before being law abiding citizens. Casey hears his vulnerability...and makes a big decision: change the script. When did you realize that this was not your career? When you hear these people cry, you know? You know what you are doing is wrong. Someone offered me a way out, I took it and started saving people. That someone is Canadian... A private investigator in Windsor, Ontario... One day I got this phone call and it turned out to be Casey Hunter. For his safety, we have agreed not to identify him either.

He started going through his spiel and I thought, well, this is an interesting character. The private investigator wants to help Casey stop scamming...he sends her a hundred dollars...It's a partnership that would eventually save Canadians millions...When he just started. He would get these dark messages, very calm, very you know, detailed, saying hey, you know, do this quickly right now. It's happening right now. Contact this person. Like someone is about to lose money? Someone is losing money right now, it's in the bank as we speak. Stop them. Save them. They are going to lose every last cent.

It worked? -Oh, it was working. That hobby of saving people soon becomes a full-time job. Have there been any crazy times when you got a message from Casey and you had to drop everything? We were in the middle of a snowstorm and I got that text from Casey saying, you need to call this one right now. He has ninety-six thousand dollars and they're going to keep every damn penny. He call her now. The bottom line was that it was an incredible savings, he didn't lose his money. It's not the only big savings... Another big one was the call he got about the lady who was at the TD bank.

Okay, I'm going to pause them because I'm actually going to play it. Hello, this is an emergency. I am an Ontario fraud investigator here in Windsor. He has a client who I believe is in his bank about to withdraw sixteen thousand dollars for a telephone marketing scam that is going on right now. Can you check with your counter? The bank manager had just approved the wire transfer and they were ready to send that money when we reached out and stopped the wire transfer. Yes, hello, so she hung up the call. Oh! It's what makes me tingle.

Every day. There are many, there are many of those. The phone scam is linked to organized crime both here in Canada... and abroad in India... That puts Casey in danger... They kidnapped me, they ran me over, they broke my leg. . So these are very serious people. This is a large criminal operation that is making money and clearly wants to protect it. Let's just say the police are involved, the politicians are involved, everyone gets a cut of this money. It's so incredible that it seems like something out of a movie... It seems like they intended to kill him.

Yes, that's exactly what they were doing. But Casey says that won't stop him... When you think about all the kind of backlash you faced, why do you keep doing this? Because it's the right thing to do, I sleep better at night because I know I saved someone today. How many victims do you think you have saved? Maybe three or four hundred people. Have you done more to stop scams in Canada than any law enforcement agency in this country? I have definitely put more money into the hands of Canadians than any law enforcement agency. And you know how much...

Three and a half million in robbery. Back at the call center, Casey gets a lead on victims in the UK who have fallen for the scam... They're about to pay thousands... And he asks us to help him stop this scam... They're 6am here in Ottawa... I just received an alert that there is a scam in progress... Hi Nelisha. Hi David, there's a person on the phone right now who has agreed to pay thousands of dollars... That's ringing. So we talked on the phone... try several times... Sorry, but the person you called is not available. Do you want to send a text message to that person?

We know that phone scammers try to keep their victims on the line... by telling them not to answer any more calls... But we won't give up... After dozens of tries... We finally did it. .. I'm calling you from Canada... I'm actually a journalist. If he is on the other end of the line with someone telling him that he owes taxes or needs to pay money, it is a scam. Yes, good instincts. Because it absolutely is. They think they have convinced you but just get rid of them. Day two... And Casey has more clues for us... The person you're calling is on another line.

We tried to communicate more than 50 times... And finally... Hello, the person you are talking to on the other line is a telephone scammer. He is trying to take money from him but it is not from the government. We stopped him. Scam stopped. He gives a virtual high five. Amazing. We also contacted two people, we actually contacted them and we just told them this is a scam, this is a scam, they hung up and listened to us. How did he make you feel? Fairly good. It's one thing when you call and you're saving someone from the UK, but when you call that Canadian, you know, that's...

Yeah, boom boom. He is there, that's exactly it. After months of investigation... We received another alert... This time it is about an elderly Canadian who is being defrauded... My name is David Common. I'm a CBC journalist. We have reason to believe that you have been contacted by scammers from India. Can we save him before it's too late? The greatest fighter against fraud reveals his secrets. Next... in your Marketplace. This is his Marketplace. My name is David Common, I'm a CBC Marketplace journalist. We are in a race against time... I think you may be a victim of a scam.

His number appeared as if a scammer had called him. Call Canadians and interrupt criminals in the middle of a phone scam. We just wanted to call you and let you know that this is a scam. We just saved ten people before they became victims... No matter where we are... or what we are doing... we drop everything when we have a lead... Even while we are on a different mission... When an urgent notice arrives... Justin, my name is David Common, I am a CBC journalist. We have reason to believe that you have been contacted by scammers from India.

Has anyone asked you to pay money in the last few days? At first he asks who we are... But then he admits that he got the call... Justin, I want to stop you here. This is the tech support scam. Call Visa and stop it. Minutes later he calls us again... With good news. Excellent. They are really good at this. Oh boy. Even the skeptics are being scammed... by criminals who are getting even better at their corrupt trade... The man who helps us this time? He is not a scammer... Nor an insider... I can see that the scammers still have access to your computer.

I'm going to try to find out who they are. He is a white hat hacker who tracks down scammers... He confronts them... He even reports them to local authorities... Your name is him? Jim Browning...his YouTube videos of him have millions of views...he rarely meets other people...But he agreed to talk to us...So we have come to London...he It's giving us an inside look. Where are the scam centers and who do they target in order to stop them. How can one man become one of the world's greatest fraud fighters? Really, it all started when he was sitting at home and getting a ton of scam phone calls, and I thought, I know computers, I'm an engineer, I know computer networks, surely I can do something about this. .

In fact, you hack these call centers which are mainly located in India. As? Then they will want to connect to my computer and so I have the opportunity to go back to their computer. So to open access to your computer, they have to open the door to theirs, and you're taking advantage of that. Exactly. I try to gather as much information as I can about the victim and will immediately try to call them on the phone. Sometimes I can intercept that scam and prevent it from happening. He's so popular that even scammers are afraid of him...

What do you think all the scammers think of you? Some of them actually recognize my voice, and I've actually heard other people use the word, oh, I'm Jim Browning or I know about Jim Browning, and as soon as they hear that name, they hang up on the phone because they'll know it could be someone. looking at them. Time to see Jim in action... How many scam centers are you seeing in India right now? At the moment about seven or eight. They tend to vary and, in fact, they vary even during different times of the day. So in the morning there are fewer countries they would target, then the night shift starts in India and generally you will see a lot more scams.

Then North America wakes up, at which point they can start targeting people in Canada and the United States. That's how it is. Within minutes, we can see a phone scammer trying to convince a victim to pay... Does it seem as if he is arranging for FedEx, or someone claiming to be FedEx, to go pick up a check from this person? That's right, he has to write a check for over a thousand dollars and they will mail it to an address in Texas. There's a UPS store there, we've seen this before, the mailbox is there, the money mule comes in, picks up the money and they're gone.

That's how it is. We have the victim's details, so we should be able to call her and warn her not to send the money. Hello Barbara, my name is David Common, I am ainvestigative journalist for Canadian television. The person you just hung up on is a scammer. You don't owe money, they are trying to steal money from you. Yes, really. We are in the middle of an investigation into these scammers and by chance we found your call. We have someone who helps us and who can see inside. Can you turn off the computer completely? I know, this is all crazy and I barely understand it, Barbara.

Here's the deal. The scammers who are in India put some software on your computer that allows them to see what is on your computer, but secretly we have put something on your computers that allows us to see what is on your computer. You understood exactly, Barbara. We're talking to Barbara... But there's another scammer trying to steal thousands of dollars this time from an elderly woman in Sudbury, Ontario... Hi, is it Lorraine? Then my producer tries to stop them... Hi Lorraine. My name is Nelisha and I'm calling from CBC. I'm calling because I think you may be on the phone or have recently been with someone who claims you owe thousands of dollars, is that correct?

I just want to let you know that she is a scam and the person she has been talking to is a phone scammer and I just want to make sure she won't pay him any money. Were you talking to them when I called you? Ok, just hang up, don't answer his calls, don't interact anymore. Months later... We traveled to Sudbury, Ontario... To meet Lorraine... They said something about... I had overpaid for something. I said, well, how could I have paid, I know I pay my bills, I paid what it was. And he said, "no, it's $140 that comes to you." That's when Nelisha called.

And she said... This is a scam! Yes. She said, "close your computer, that's a scam." You think they were trying to take $1000 from you. Yes. Which is a lot of money. - Okay, yes. - But here's the thing. Because we got to see inside the scammer's operation. We know how much they were trying to get out of him. $38,000. Oh! Well, it could have gone into my bank account. Yes. I am very grateful for Nelisha. Every day I say thank you. Jim sees that another Canadian is being connected right now... He has reached the mailbox of... As we try to interrupt the call...

Jim can see the scam unfolding in real time... Because the scammers have hacked the camera the victim's website... and Jim has hacked into theirs. Try again. This time, they are working on the Amazon refund scam claiming you are owed money due to a transaction error and requesting access to your account and credit card information... You have reached 261... We know Someone may be close to losing everything... If we can't stop it... Maybe the police can... I'm calling to report what we believe is a fraud in progress. Now we can't stop it but we can see that they have taken control of your computer, you need to turn it off.

It's his life savings that he's about to lose. While we update the police... Jim can see that the scammer in India continues to pursue the victim to obtain his banking information... We cannot locate the man who is being scammed... But we can buy him and police. At some point... by calling the scammer... Munir... you are breaking the law in your country. You are breaking the law in Canada. You are stealing money from someone who cannot be stolen money from. You impersonate Amazon, pretend to do all kinds of things in a scam center. For this. This guy, Jim believes, is the person we're talking to on the phone...

Right now, as we speak, you're using his card, his bank details, to try to buy gift cards. Munir, there are no clients. There is only one victim. Think of this man as if he were your father or grandfather. Would you like someone to steal from your grandfather? He still denies scamming anyone... For someone who claims not to be a scammer, you sure know a lot about scams. While we tie up the scammer, the police arrive, hoping to have arrived in time... We were not sure if we would arrive in time, if we could stop him because they were so close. ...next in your Marketplace.

This is your Market. Phone scammers have stolen millions from Canadians in the last year alone... So while authorities are slow to crack down... Good

hackers

like Jim Browning have found creative solutions to stop scammers. I have been able to see exactly what the scammer is doing. I literally look at what's on their screen, listen to what they say, and I can actually see what they're doing from that moment on. That job pays off with this old man in Toronto... We weren't even sure at the time that we could stop him because they were so close. Remember we called the police after calling him dozens of times with no luck...

I don't think he was aware of what was going on, he just thought someone was trying to help him and fix his computer, but there was nothing, he has no nothing bad. They arrive just in time before the old man gives them the money... I want to take you back to that moment, and I can take you back to that moment. Because of that camera on the computer. -He's the dared. -Oh, totally. He knows I'm a police officer and that doesn't deter him at all. They are that daring because they feel protected, right? What role can authorities play in trying to stop this scam?

Well, I think he goes hand in hand with what you're doing. I think it's education, right? Because if people know that this exists, they will be more prepared when they receive the phone calls. Just like everyone got the phone calls, I got the phone calls. We are very excited about this because after five years of researching this, there have been very, very few wins and we are very satisfied with this. It's time for us to visit Bryan in person... Mr. Fensome? I'm David Común. I'm a journalist for CBC News. Did the police come to your house on Friday?

We were the ones who called them. You are welcome. Scammers are very convincing. They are very good at what they do. By a number you know. Yes. Which is the right thing to do. Well, I was ready to cheer at that point. I'm so glad that they managed to get there just in time, it was with your help, because I couldn't have contacted that victim, and luckily you guys intervened and got the police there at just the right time. time, so it was good. We have been investigating these telephone scams for about five years. And a lot of times when we talk to people about this, it's after they've lost money.

Sometimes your life savings. So to be able to talk to you when you haven't lost any money, when we can together stop that scam, is amazing. Thank you very much and we are very happy that it turned out the way it did. I'm glad we were able to do it. You're invited! To a market celebration. - Are you ready? - The market turns 50! Why did you contact us on Marketplace? If we can help people not get scammed, it would feel good. I don't want anyone to experience what I experienced. Maybe with your program you can get someone to listen to you.

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