FLOWER BOY: a conversation

just because those number five are in a square circle I think of 87 88 that weird moment could be 85 i because I could go but it sounds like an updated Stevie Wonder song if uh Timberlake or someone was going to sing about it yeah, but the chords they're crazy and reality goes on, that's a whole thing, is that your favorite, what's your favorite, stevie cor, I know it's hard, that's impossible, but I'm just saying like, uh, you. you got too high oh too high you got the end the end of too high where just because the tempo slows down like it's one of the best like it just slows down and lands like a leaf, someone you love is looking for another pure love crazy looking another pure love is the rarest temple as well as think of that temple as yes as so rare and then obviously the golden lady number four the golden lady is perfect because it is a version of jose feliciano jose feliciano jose feliciano from golden lady he does california dreaming and golden lady yeah, but it's this race that does in the version of golden lady that I have on my phone in my video that just oh really over and over again and I practice it because I'm like I want to perfect that one day there are certain um josé feliciano ago it's an overly tall version of stevie playing the tall two and then entering the golden lady where there's seven seven what's what concert uh it looks like the same girls concert for do what you call my if you really love me if you really like him breaks it down there's a woman in that shot that looks like my mom and then I already love the thing and then there's this woman in the shot that looks like my mom and I just look at it and I almost cry the whole time it's crazy, but wait, wait, what was I going to say because, uh, uh, the Stevie man I'm ignoring, uh, it was another question about something you said, but okay, so it's you and pharrell, what's pharrell, just come in with the voice on the thing, yeah, I just thought, can I use these old voices?, he said, yeah, and I was like, let me have it at the end and stuff. that's what makes me melt when I was five years old it was when I had five notes and I didn't know what chords were what anything was, but I always say it goes down and yeah, leans and hits, I played a song, uh for you uh by stevie wonder and take six uh uh why do I feel like that and I remember you were almost like you made me turn it off and you're like in the fetal position take it because I don't know what those are Notes make me since I remember I was seven mm-hmm and when it rained I would put on the uh number three of love deluxe by shadow uh I couldn't love you more mm-hmm or I would put on the uh number 10 always on my mind by brandy yes and yes those chords I would just look at the sky and cry because the chords just they would do something to me and I don't know what it is, I can't explain it, I hope when I die they just explain it to me, but they do something to me and it's almost like a dog whistle for specific dog tasks.

Yeah, I think we have a lot of similar things because we've talked about very specific things like uh music bridge soul half crazy kid himself one four three one four three how many times is the soundtrack to my three best moments of my life and that's something from cb2 it's just like the loves that need love today type of vocal solo and type of phrasing that music as a friend, the bridge of the lady, I just want to commit suicide is that your favorite bridge, I mean, I know it's like that, you know, It's like I can't refer to it.

There are too many, the half-crazy bridge is also crazy, yes. yeah, the music, the first two albums really shaped a lot of them, yeah, they're a reason, uh, novelty, all those, yeah, number two, dear God, he was on the scene, yeah, settle for my bridge of love is crazy, yeah, yeah, it's very, yeah, and those like it really comes out like your work the bridge in uh since i had you by marvin gaye which is written by leonard yeah and uh french waltz by leon where there's a bridge itself what's crazy since i had you forget there's just a woman moaning for most of the whole song it's like she's not moaning the whole time yeah it doesn't make any damn sense no the bridge on Cortex number three from uh tropea blue, I don't know how to pronounce the title. because it's French, but it could be French, I don't know, but number three is Lafayette samba or something like that.

The hook is just this girl, excuse my voice and I want to kill myself every time it comes on. I have a 10 minute version of repeats oh you just did it yeah someone made a 10 minute version of this song called smile by pharrell that came out on some japanese record and the song is not like the classic one the song is a bit gross but the bridge is I have a 10 minute version of this yeah and I played it for Lionel he just laughs because he says you want to listen to this part of this song for nine just specific and I'm like yeah , but you understand it like you're talking about uh. oh, I know I was going to say that José Feliciano also liked my fire and it was this kind of guitar riff that he does that I just want to repeat over and over again.

I also like, what are you playing the piano on that? I, uh, Wolf's chorus is perfect, man. I watch this video of just you doing it over and over again because it's so beautiful it's mine. I've always liked that even in Yonkers, the second verse is just some piano chords coming through. I go in for two seconds and I think I have a version of that where it just repeats itself. I want to talk about the opposite of these beautiful chord emotions. November is like one of the heaviest songs, right? and it's You're like paranoid, it's that the thing you would say that, so that was the last song on the album that you recorded, yeah, literally, and um, it was just me thinking, literally, yeah, it made me the way it is.

Are you and Clancy okay? What if when I mention who that guy is, no one cares? What if I'm going backwards? What if my accountant is stealing money from me and I don't know it? Yes, everything could be the worst that could happen. could happen to me at that moment, I thought: What if I remember talking to Clancy right after and he said: Yeah, he has a love-hate thing with me on this bump in the album? He says he only trusts me and then in November it's like that. robbing him happened through all this, but it was just you, it seemed like a diary entry, yes, in November 2016 it was probably the best time of my life, why we had rented a house every morning, we woke up right for the jellies. um, I was starting to get involved with Converse after that was over, um, we'd spend time at least with Jasper and I playing, I started with the stupid PlayStation game in VR, we had the new Mario Switch, um, when we were done working, why would it go out?

We'd go to the park or we'd just go bike riding or we'd just go to shows and then I'd go to the studio and I'll be working on the album, tell me what's your November, is it a person, uh, might like it. It could be a person, it could be a song, it could be a moment, but only those things that make you super happy and it's like the totem in the beginning, yes, yes, literally, and that house we had in cold water, um, It was just an incredible moment. yeah, and I was literally wearing Hawaiian shirts in January and it was cold, yeah, but that was the mentality you had, yeah, it wasn't, it was cool, man, it was so fucking good, yeah, I am, but it's funny how.

If you had finished the album with November, how would it change people would say: "give this, are you okay?" All the while being a car ride and ending that verse in November with What if I thought the brake was the gas? What happens if I crash? Yes, if these deep thoughts are the last, let me stop quickly. Yes, that's when I make the phone call. glitter, which is just a voicemail or whatever, yeah, it really all ties back to why the

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s I never asked you what the symbolism behind it was, they're just beautiful, they're just a visual highlight of nature and I thought it would be great, yeah, and that version has been the golden hour for the last few months.

Every golden hour I listen to it day and night for everything but the girl and Tracy Thorne is the singer who sings for everything but the girl. They have a lot of great songs and the first one. part of november is me singing something they don't want to talk about, i wrote that wanting tracy thorn to go there, but i never asked because for that specific part i was already rejected by rick ross because i wanted a bar of his there, so his voice is so heavy, the tone of her cape there would have been perfect, but yeah, it didn't work and I was like whatever, so I just put that reference in there for Tracy Thorne, but I never went.

I ended this because I thought I just wanted to finish this album. Um, I'm over it. I feel defeated. I'll leave my voice there and that's what it is and I want it. I want to play Boy Cardio. in November at the part where I say, take me back, take me back, yeah, I think I think his voice is like a go-kart like in New York. I'm very right, management is very personal and I think it's so. Sick, yeah, so that part in November was take me back. I was going to play with cardi to do it.

That would have been rick ross, playboy cardi and tracy thorn, oh, just one, yeah, but it turned out great, it turned out great and it's crazy. A lot of these songs on this album are just songs that people didn't pick up, but I think because it came out and it works, now I could say "hey pop artist, I just want to produce" or "hey, I could write a cool little melody like let's do it, hopefully no one has called yet, but I mean, but you want to do that, that's all I want to do, like I can be successful at that because you always talk about wanting to write down the things you talk about this I just want to compose. some things and just produce songs that I don't do, I don't have to wrap it all up and make clothes and just create other things, but I don't want to rap well, I mean, look, but it's fun, it's funny, I like it, but I mean, I say that , I mean, I'll go put a verse on something because it's still fun, yeah, I mean, but it's not even just about that, it's more feeling, you know, I mean you almost create music like a director, you know. , it's everything, it's about the enveloping feeling of it all, you know what I mean, then it's like again, like a garden shed, it's like it's just an emotion that you then rap when it fits the emotion, like guard , it just sounds like the indie movies I like, yeah, and then, that guy sounds like horror, this whole album was just a fucking score, yeah, you know, someone's gotta give me a fucking chance, 70 year old white guy still does, come on, well, I mean you have. fun, such an amazing year and you know, I'm so grateful that you make music, thank you, yeah, really, I'm so grateful that you make music, it's really beautiful and you know, I guess I'm trying to think.