Diddy, Kanye, Kim, Pete, Kris & Trump…NOBODY IS SAFE from Jason Lee | Funky Friday w/ Cam Newton

How does a gay happen in a heterosexual encounter? You would talk to me the same way you talk to your friends because some of them are probably gay too because I have nothing to lose if the Kardashians don't like me. Pete Davidson texted him. a text message in Kim Kardashian's bed and it said: I'm in bed with your wife. I'm not friends with Diddy. I heard she was the devil. I heard he was evil. He even threatened me once, but isn't that a bit? contradict that the attack comes from Hollywood unblock well, we are not going to attack it a platform it is a platform we do not go out and believe lies about these people are you angry with the man at the Drive-Thru window a Taco Bell because he gives you a taco , eat that taco because Shanon Sharp will never be able to recover from the fact that she had one of the most viral videos ever, but then she sits online and cries all day as if to say, How come you block me?

Block everything. My staff is blocking the Hollywood unlock because we're talking about you, you got out of the car in that green suit. I didn't tell you to go out like this, but now you turn around and I'm the bad guy, crazy, wait, hey, before we go any further hit the red button subscribe thanks again to the show what's good what's coming up What's it What Not what could be what should be what would be Cam Newton the son Mr. Boogie to everyone and me I'm here with another episode of Funky Friday, but I promise. I truly promise to give good content for the masses, but most of all I promise to Keep It Funky for your butts.

Now listen, no, I'm talking about you. You better, mother, listen because this guest. Right here I have more tea than lipon I have more juice than orange juice I have more information than a Wall Street Journal I mean, what else should be said? Founding creator of Hollywood unlock uh you also know a person who is running for municipal office. I introduce you to some and introduce you. others, the man, the myth, the legend, Jason Lee, man you did all that without a teleprompter that means you make the facts real because not everyone can do this so I'm trying to tell you right I know because you know I've met them all, but don't look, listen, you know, I suffer from imposter syndrome and it's a little surreal to be sitting here because I know what I do, I know that people see the billions of Impressions that we make or what be it, but I drink soda but I know who you are.

I respect who you are. I'm a fan of yours and I met you years ago when you know. Before I did all this, at least I did it on the scale I'm on now. I'm just happy to be here, happy to be invited and I hope they don't kick me out. I mean, you say you want me to be honest. I mean, so be careful. Honesty is now. Listen. I'll tell you this. You know why? You, Jason, why? Because my purpose in life is that I want people to live in their truth. If that is all.

I want people to be responsible for that. And if I feel like you're not doing that, yeah, you know what I am. Saying like that doesn't mean you're a bad person. I wouldn't even say you're not my kind, but I know people who don't live in their truth, they don't say how they really do it. I feel like they're not doing what they really want to do, they're not pursuing all these things and I'm like, Life's too short for you to question that and every single controversial piece of content that I've seen you make. true or not, I think you are honest, yes, you know what I'm saying.

I mean, right now I'm 46 years old. I'll be 47 this year. I have more birthdays behind me than ahead of me. I have survived being shot. I saw my brother die and my mother die of drugs twice in a foster home. I have had excellent careers. I lost them. I started my own business and fought through the entire process of lessons to get to where I am now and I'm proud. be everything that I am and everything that I've been through uh, I've been in love with some of the most beautiful men, some of them have been great lovers, some of them have stolen, um, literal property from me.

Shout out to cardi B who got BTW my first Cub link and some from Houston stole it but look I am who I am and now I'm running for office and people say that because most people support me and believe in me and you know they are here. for me my whole town say hello to Stockton California you know they love me because they know what it is you know but the people that judge me are literally people that judge me from a glass house there is no perfect person in the world, uh and the person I know that I read that about was perfect, they hung him on a cross for everyone to see, so I don't live to be anything but happy.

I'm going to live happily. I'm going to die happy. I'm going to go to my Tombstone and say this did everything I wanted to do, period, regardless, exclamation point, bold underline, it could be italicized, it could even have a gay flag somewhere in small print because that's not the case either. It defines me, yes, I live my life. The truth is and you know I think it has made me gain a lot of things but I have also lost a lot of things but when I think about what I have lost or haven't gained as a result of being who I am those are things that God didn't want me to have hey so I'm fine with that hey let me tell you something you're preaching are you one of those mothers that's like I have I'm trying to say damn, I can't, I want to say damn, I want to like me, just speak wisely, very articulate, very intelligent, thank you with that proud, proud GED recipient right here.

I do not have any formal university degree. I have a GED. I don't even know where it is. I can't even find it because when I go to the bank, the millions of dollars that arrive don't say where their GD is. I don't know,

nobody

knows, they just call him Mr. Lee, yeah, that's it. They dig, so I have to outcard these dogs and they won't be able to outscore them on their own. The first question I have for you, Mr. Lee, yes, you are running for city official, yes, in Stockton, California, could you? He adds, I've been there, have you?

Freight, I'm in the freight industry, it's a lot of Stockton, you know, yeah, with that I was like you, from Stockton, yeah, and why now mhm and what does this mean to you, yeah, I mean, uh . So most people who know my story, if they haven't read my book, I wrote a book in 2019 called God must have forgotten about me, because I felt like doing reality TV and driving people crazy, you know, we live in a screenshot or snapshot. or a clip based world where we only see one joke, one line, one problem, one clip like you know someone who is trying to jump on you or 10 people who are trying to jump on you and are not successful at it.

Hat a Bobby, can we all say we are? Standing in business because if you're not standing for seven months trying to beat your ass you just have to quit, you're the only one who can say that right now, but we'll get back to that. I don't. I want to jump to conclusions, so it's okay after I write my book and let people see more of who I am. My story started for many with Ling hip hop as Hollywood unlocks going viral, all these viral moments, you name it, because for me, spilling the tea always has. been spilling the truth the truth in this world hurts people, shocks people, makes people uncomfortable, but if I say what I'm seeing, how come you're surprised by what I saw?

Because you did it correctly, so when I started doing it and I started seeing people's reaction, you know. I said, okay, I'm going to keep doing this, but that didn't come from unlocking Hollywood, but from my navigation through different careers that I worked in before those 11 years in the labor industry working as a director of a large union helping the healthcare workers to fight their boss at work telling their stories, you know, being able to find redemption in situations that were unfortunate and that they may not have caused, you know, of course, delivery of what I was doing was different, delivery of responsibility looked different, but when I got into the social media boom, Tech uh, Doom space and I saw what storytelling was like and I had a group of friends who were famous like me, I looked at what was going on in this.

What's really happening, let me figure out how to tell the story and let me reveal Hollywood, unlock Hollywood in a way that's not happening in this media ecosystem and put my little spin on it, you know, and it was an evolving experience because once I They said it was messy, messy, messy, from reality TV and I saw what made the internet tick, I said, okay, I'm going to tell the story that other people are trying to tell, but where I know more information that can really paint a better picture. image. It's not a bigger picture, that's not accurate, it's a better picture, but as I continue to tell my story, I feel like that was my passion, that was my purpose, so as I wrote the book, I told my story, I let Let the world digest, my passion generated millions of dollars.

Then I felt like I had reached a level where nothing else made me happy. I had started to fall out of love with the industry. So many clothes, so many pairs of shoes where you don't feel like you're leaving any kind of legacy. I came home, uh, to visit, and when I came home, uh, you know, I started to see that the decline of my community had just subsided. Here worse than it had been when I was there. When I grew up in Stockton, I was shot. My brother was murdered. All the different things that I said from the beginning happened, but there were still things the kids could do, so back and forth.

I was trying to figure out what the solution is, so finally, one day I went home and I heard that this girl was murdered at her school. I flew back home and met all these kids and the kids were telling me we feel like no one wants to do it. Listen to us, no one cares about our community, no one cares about keeping us

safe

, so I tried to come up with a plan. I launched the Hollywood Cares Foundation. I developed a program called the I'm Ready Initiative. I partnered with different city officials, people who were committed to the process, I said I'll put up a million dollars, you put up a million dollars, and after we made the commitment and took it to the city, they started doing politics in the city. work because the money we were both putting in was to help.

The black and brown kids, they are the least invested people in the city, so after seeing what they were doing, one of the city council members said, since you know all these rich people, why Do you need the city to invest in these children? Can't you go ask Rihanna for money or ask Floyd Mayweather? Those are your friends, go ask them for the money and I felt something so I came back. I started trying to find someone to run for office who I could fund. his campaign no one wanted to participate everyone was apathetic nothing is going to change it will always be like this and I didn't like that so I had to lead by example: I'm going to teach these kids through my non-profit organization uh Civic Engagement and Leadership I had I had to step forward and be the example, so I organized my life.

I came back to Stockton, found a house, changed my residence, did everything that met the minimum requirements, got an office there, changed my entire business and put my name on it. the Hat and we just beat them in the primaries with 42% Flex soda, I mean a little, I mean, you're making it like it's a lot, it's a lot of shakers, not a lot of movers, although you understand what I'm saying. What is your ultimate goal when running for office? I mean, I already told everyone: I have no interest in being mayor. I don't want to be a Senator Governor, at least those are not my ambitions at the moment.

I will win. I won't be mayor of Stockton. I've said it before, but I don't really feel like the title is necessarily going to drive leadership for me because I have all the relationships, I have all the resources, I know how to tell stories. Because I'm a storyteller through Hollywood unlocking, you know, local newspapers aren't globally distributed, we don't have, we have a lot more followers than they do, so we're telling our own story, I think. I just want to get into District 6, which is the South Stockon Western Ranch area, do everything I can to pull together all my relationships and resources, rebuild my community, change the narrative of Stockton, and work with the other people who are elected to do that, and uh, but.

I mean, before we even get there, you know we're getting ready to launch a voter registration and a voter education campaign because there are so many people who just don't vote, don't even think that voting is important when this is something that we, Black and brown people, we fight to have the right to have it, so part of what I want to do is really rebuild trust and change voter apathy and get people involved and then take care of eight years of rebuilding my community because it's I'm going to take time if that's something I want to do in terms of seeking other positions across the state.

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I think what he is doing is something that should be noticed around the world because people use their influence in many different facets. I think what you've been able to do with this is have a purpose and you're executing it to the best of your knowledge and I Think about anyone, especially in the city of Stockton, who sees this, why wouldn't they want this person who they really cares? You don't get paid to do it right or you get paid what you're supposed to pay. $30,000 a year, right, I already said I'm going to create an athletic commission on the south side for these kids because you know there are a lot of kids that have athletics, that's their thing, yes sir, but some kids have helmets that don't match. because their parents can't afford proper uniforms, so I want to create this Southside athletic commission so I can go to friends who have brand deals at auma or Adidas or Nike to invest in that, but I've also already said I'll put my entire salary into it. in I don't want to, I won't take a dollar, it's not the money, but they say oh, he's doing this for the influence, are you crazy?

I had to remind those who didn't know I am. I give you influence and I take it from you, you know, that's what it is, now they say it's arrogant, please don't confuse confidence with arrogance. I just said I have a GED, something you would be ashamed of, but if you look at my bank account and say you should be ashamed. I know how to talk to my Flex when I need to. I mean, Rihanna was sitting next to me at dinner the other night, but I don't need it because you're watching the movie. play in front of you this is what I tell all the kids at home, everyone will tell you you're not going to be, do you know how many times people tell me you're not going to be, mom used to tell you?

You're not going to be you you're not going to be like your dad you he even though he did something right one night damn if he didn't I wouldn't be here 'cause I had a whole wife and kids at home shant Moore I just sang at my dinner the other night he said Shant has a man at home he told my dad's wife but or my dad did have him but you know what I mean he still had me I'm a product of that environment and despite everything these people As they pass by, they too can be adjacent, so I know I'm going to win, I'm going to crush it and then they'll be watching city hall like a reality show because I'm going to drag them every night. they do something wrong, they get it, oh oh, I'm going to promote it as a Zeus Network show.

Let me tell you something, we're not even in the thick of the whole damn show and I just realized something. this with all due respect yes you are my kind of see now listen now here for every straight man watching you can say that to a homosexual and he doesn't want to sleep with you I don't know what this fragile masculinity is in our In our culture no, I look at the end of the day bro, I think this conversation needs to happen because I'm straight as the lines on the street and I am and I'm like a drunk driver but without alcohol, do you know what I am?

It means I could go in any direction you cross into my lane I'm telling you right now it's going to be a deadly situation I'm telling everyone you know it they know I hug you with love but if you hold on too tight I won't do it I don't know, I'm leaving to confuse, you know, I love everyone and I love what everyone does. I'm critical of the gay community, trans straight, this lesbian, I'm an equal opportunity offender, anyone can understand that, powpow, but, I just feel like Again, that's me living in my truth, everything we say in our community is not true or correct, what happened.

Oh, I thought you were trying to offer me some more of that espresso she was giving me. She's trying to set me up here. They gave me a chance. Here I said that as long as my pupils stay up late, I'm fine or they're not supposed to be dilated. I got a GED. I don't know the difference, but you know what I mean. Whose phone was it? That's ok. Sorry, someone in my house, you can't, you have to prepare for your uh, is it a primary? No, I won the primary. I have to prepare for the general, yes, so you can't have phones ringing, they will be there. texting while they're, I'm telling you it's criminal behavior, it's a doctor right now, they're up there texting in the middle of city council.

I already told you when I went in there. I learned from the beginning when all my cousins ​​used to be accused, the word accusation I already told you when I got there and I started going over everything, if any of you have committed any crime that is ruling this city, you will be accused, so prepare yourselves for it . You see what's going on with Puff, you better start planning because he's coming because I don't, I don't break the law, what do you do, you make the law, no, oh, oh, you understand, you don't make the law, you get clout. . for a law, I mean, I look, I follow the law, I don't do my best to not do anything wrong because I'm someone whose company brings out the good and the bad and I've had some mistakes with things where people have seen it gone viral I don't like that feeling, it's just not a comfortable feeling at all in any way, yes you have feelings, of course I have feelings.

I'm very, I'm, no. an emotional person I almost said I'm very emotional I'm not I'm not I have feelings I'm not a tree but I mean I'm not sitting around crying all day and I'm not someone to like I can't deal with a lot of people who are in their feelings all day because I want to know if you have a problem or feel any way. I really wonder what the solution is, how we can get to the solution, but I mean I get emotional sometimes? Yeah, so this is what I'll say while you're talking. It's hard for me not to think about this question and ask it in a very similar way.

I need to know where Jason Lee came from. Like I'm talking, take me back, first I want to know what your ethnicity is to people, okay, so everyone thinks I run around saying k k all day because I'm Dominican, I'm not Spanish, I'm black and Italian. and Greek, but to black people, some black people, I'm not black enough and to white people I'm clearly black or Spanish, so I've had this strange experience with ethnicity or race or ethnicity because people have tried to put me on a box, but yeah, I'm black, Italian and Greek, did you find out on ancestry.com?

No, you know what a funny thing, I never told anyone. I ordered this. I ordered that I even bought the little kit where you are supposed to make some kind. of the tests I have an extreme addition, so I never took the test. I don't even know where it is and then I forgot my ancestry login and after looking through a couple of birth certificates I just stopped looking because I don't know. if I'm supposed to care where I come from or who this person is related to. I don't know if I care enough. I'm not supposed to care.

I think you should why, though so you know where you're coming from, son. but I don't look, I just see some of the stuff that I know, I'm mixed with a real African guy and out there, and I figure out how to mix all that and put a little bit or a lot of dab, no pun intended. a real yeah, that's me, yeah, I don't know, I mean, here's the deal, so one of my beliefs in life applies to everything and this might not necessarily not apply to this, but it's like the life for me was not like that. upside down and I don't really look at what's behind me I really try not to because I used to get caught up in the what ifs what ifs this what ifs that what ifs literally I'm just I'm I'm living in the moment and I'm planning for the future, but I don't wait for the future to arrive.

I don't know if that makes sense, it makes a lot of sense because people who are like I was talking to someone today who was like, I'm doing what I have to do to get what I need and I said, but you're doing what you're supposed to. do right now and what you are going to do. What you will get will come as a result of that, but you can't rush the process because if you do all the things that you are supposed to learn along the way are part of that process, so if I take an L today, then this is the L for today, that lesson is what I was supposed to learn today, then I'll learn what I can do differently tomorrow and tomorrow will be a test of what I learned today, but I'm not going to go back and say well if I would have done this yesterday and 3 days before and a month before that math is not going to be math for you today you literally have to live now if I had done that I would have been all over the oh my god if my brother was still alive or oh my god if my mom wasn't I would have been put in foster care, you know, I can't even let my mind rent that kind of space because I'm just too overwhelmed.

The blessings I am living in now are like your past life. I just heard you say that your brother passed away. You were in foster care. I didn't know. Yes. Do you have trauma from that? Um, I don't think so. I mean, I'll say I'm 7 months old and I haven't drank in 7 months. I'm sober for seven months. Congratulations, thank you, but only by choice because I felt like I was starting to have too much fun and I just have a lot more ambitions that I want to let go of. When I think about alcohol, my entire life I never considered it a drug.

When I thought about drugs, I thought about cocaine, hair and the wind. The things I saw my mom do. I always said I was never going to be a drug addict, ever, ever, and that's why I never tried hard drugs, I didn't even think about it, but alcohol became something that helped me cope with the death of my brother, which helped. deal with all the other things I went through and even though I wasn't thinking about it as a coping mechanism, it was like working all day going out and waking up, getting drunk, passing out, not going to sleep, getting up In the morning, I went to work, I was very functional, but then after a while, you like, damn, this is just not allowing me to really live how I feel, so I stopped drinking, went to therapy and started to really feel everything that was around me. and everything I was doing was more intentional showing up for the people that needed to show up, me showing up, um, cutting out the people that I felt like weren't showing up for me and I feel like I'm living my fullest life now. fruitful life that I have lived, so what intrigues me the most is the fact that some would say or I would even say that you are a self-made fact, right?

Did you have any kind of formal education? I took some classes as myself. I loved to talk. so I took a public speaking class. I love talking in groups, so I talked. I took some group counseling classes. English. I took an English class, but never. I only took the classes for the skills I really wanted to learn or explore if I learned. but like calculus, the reason I'll probably never get a degree is because I'm not doing calculus, I'm not doing algebra, I'm not doing math that requires me to find symbols if nothing else, delete, wait. not even delete see more divide multiply subtract that's all I need to do when I count my money so I don't really need all the other geography if I want to go somewhere I'll just go to an airline book me a flight to Turkey I don't need to know where is Turkey only when the plan lands that's where I am what is I don't know what this whole economy thing is I don't cook I had a chef but I'm not going to be in the kitchen talking about what seasoning this is it doesn't matter I don't like it this is too much it's too much that he modifies it what I love it removes all those other unnecessary things from the equation simplify less is less is more people who want to be very smart, they are very book smart, they make a lot less money than the person they work for , if you don't put that book down today, pour your passion and figure it out like Look, you'll see this 20 years later saying I should have, but hey, I'm not going to say I should have.

I'm doing it, I say yes, when I look at all this development of who Jason. Lee is from my research and preparation for this program. Did you find some dirt too? Let me tell you what I found and you tell me if it's dirt or if it's a diamond. Okay, I think it's quite adiamond, but good. You've been dating Rihanna now everything shines like a DI, yeah, so they're all diamonds, yeah, but I've been in, I've been in a little too and everyone doesn't know everything that I've done in a. so there's no telling what you found, okay, now listen, we have to do it.

I have to protect myself here like we do. G to have fun respectfully making it difficult, okay, oh pause, listen. I know gays aren't supposed to hold people back. I know. Be every time, give me, give me the proper label because it's like a lot of what I do since we kept it up coming from a straight man to a gay man, how does a gay happen in the heterosexual encounter without everything? Because when you were talking about your chef, I didn't like certain things he said, like wait, bro, like, what are we talking about, we talk about food or we talk about hilarious things, but then I'm like, oh, like me.

I still want to be, no, I don't care to know, but there are people who really want to know and then you know what the comments will be like, how the C and I think, although I really always wanted to. because every black person has a family member that they really want to have these conversations with and I just hope that they receive my questions with love and I'm not trying to be messy, I really really do, oh, listen, how are we supposed to go? to have it first, let's establish that we are family, this is a

safe

space, you can ask me whatever you want, however you want, I don't understand, I'm not offended, just be very clear, I'm not a sensitive person about that.

Look, you'd talk to me the same way you talk to your friends because some of them are probably gay too. Now what happens is that people don't want to tell their friends that they are gay. They're sitting there playing PlayStation. got that mb2k, whatever, smoking that joint not knowing it's probably going to give you a if you really set the stage right. um, someone called it a bro job the other day. I thought I've never had a bro job anyway. a I think you have the conversation with your straight or gay friend just assuming it might be a little friendlier if no one is looking uh I think human sexuality at this point is so fluid that the river will never dry up I look at everyone the way everyone looks It's the right opportunity for me, unfortunately with my career, people don't really come to me like they probably want to sometimes because I've been around a couple of people who I know look at me like a baby if you don't. do what you did but by the grace of God I do what I do um you're talking about being just yeah because I'm friendly I'm a vibe I'm a good person but you're covering gossip or talking about you're running for city council which Hollywood unblocked It is literally an entity that does what it does.

I have rules that I follow. Everything that happens in private moments stays private, so I could be chilling with Madonna and something going on. will never see the light of day and I've been with him but the fact that you said his name now makes everyone suspicious no I'm just using him as a name because he's someone I know yeah but I say like what you do in private, so now it's like what do you do in private? So let's back up. I was Kanye West's media manager for a while. We talked and did a lot of things that I didn't share publicly because that was No, that was my responsibility to him in that relationship, was to deal with what we were facing right when I decided to walk away, I walked away very publicly and it was what it was and I didn't.

I just said I chose to walk. away, so what private time is private time? I don't tell on people and I don't attack children, those are really the only limits, everything else is fair game if it's in the public eye, you know, everything else can be had, everything else can be had . because it's like you know if I hear something happening if I hear it or my team listens, they say hey we just heard this, you know I know the person, I'm going to call the person and say hey this just came to we. reason why I do that because if it came to us it will surely go to everyone else, so if I have the relationship with you to call you, then you have the opportunity to get ahead of yourself by telling me your side or telling me your opinion or your opinion or what is happening or not. and then I can go out and do the right thing, it's okay for the situation, so I never made it to my list, so it's one of those like, damn, dropping some ahead or some, you know, I have time today, so I'm just giving you a lot, you can go back to whatever.

I'm just giving you everything, yeah, but when I did my research, Father was a Rolling Stone, yeah, foster care, yeah, I sold drugs one day, no way, one day was a backup, oh. yes, I robbed the jury, might I add of dead people? Yeah, I told that story the other night at dinner and as she's telling the story, Rihanna says there's no way I said, yeah, you know they're going to be your friends, you don't know, but yeah, I mean, you're you're 7 years old your sister is four years old your mother takes drugs somewhere in the city you have to eat what you do you eat you go and do what you have to do in order to eat or do You are starving, so I did what I had to do and that's what I believe that what makes me most relatable since I ran for city council again is that I understand that that moment of crime is a reflection of your community.

Nobody wakes up in Stockton, California. Right now I'm saying, I want to go steal and kill and steal and do all this, but if you starve a community, if you starve two dogs and throw a piece of meat in the room, what's going to happen? They'll kill each other for it. piece of meat, so that's what's happening in communities that look like ours and that brings me back to your question of why, because I know that having been there at the funeral home, I lived around the corner from the corner of two funeral homes that were going. and choose which one you know how to be able to be seven years old and sit and wait for a family to wake up from mourning their dead relative and then go and take that person's jewelry and then find someone in the neighborhood to sell.

It was just being able to eat was crazy, um, but that was my reality, but now, being with you doing that at seven years old, at seven, yeah, the most interesting man in the world, now I'm here stealing hearts. story at a time, I mean, I gotta make it feel kinda good, you know what I mean, no, uh-uh, like we keep it, but we keep it

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, that's not like that, but you gotta do what you have to do. It was bad and I'm not judging yes, that was a chapter in your life yes, that's how it was and I will say that although I tell the story now no, I'm not proud of it.

I did a lot of things when I was a younger kid surviving. in the streets uh I didn't feel like I wasn't proud and that was um yeah, but now it's a page in my book, it's a book that I put everything I could into to help other people see themselves and help them know that you can come from the other side. I'm lucky that now I don't have to steal or lie or increase or whatever, you know what I mean, but I'm telling you what the alternative is if you don't have it and I can't understand it, you can't tell me to go get a I work at 7, you can't tell me to go look for my mom and she said she couldn't find her, which brings me to this thing I always wondered about, I never did. a clear answer, so please understand this question a little bit: were you born gay or is it something you grow up with?

I think it's a fair question. I don't feel like I was born gay. I didn't know? Let's be clear, I'm also a different kind of gay. I know the gi. I can feel the Skittles rolling down the street right now because I said I'm an equal opportunity offender. Everyone is offended at some point in their life and experience. with me I didn't wake up when I mean, I didn't wait uh you know, I grew up playing with Barbie dolls, it's not like all gay people do because they don't. I didn't grow up uh dressing like a girl, not everyone Every gay person's experience in every gay person's life is different, every lesbian's life experience is different and every trans person's experience is different, so for me , when I was a child, I felt that children at least didn't think about that.

Sexuality started, it started until this girl started babysitting and then started playing with me. I was 8 years old. This was right before I went into foster care. She was 16. I didn't even think about it like she was sexually abused until. Years later I told the story that I had been with a 16-year-old boy because I was just an 8-year-old boy, a 16-year-old boy, and then as I got older, I came home from foster care and started exploring. sex with girls and getting girlfriends in that, partly because my brothers had a lot of girls and they wanted me to have a girlfriend, they were straight, they were straight, yeah, and then I had girlfriends and then I had an experience with a friend of mine.

He was in a bad relationship with a girl. I wrote about this bad relationship with a girl and I ended up having a friend that I didn't know and then we ended up playing and then we developed a relationship that gave us both. an escape from whatever we were both doing that was making us unhappy and then that evolved into a full relationship and then, you know, I moved on, but you're not bisexual, no, no, no, I had, you know what I didn't. I know if I told the story I had a bisexual experience last time, no no I didn't.

I'm not even going to lie to myself. I'm not even going to lie to the viewers. He was not bisexual. It was just a girl. The room was one of those situations where I saw a friend at the club who had nowhere to sit. He had a table. He and his girl want to sit there. Welcome to my table. Then we would go to my house. I want to enter the jacuzzi they want to enter the jacuzzi. I have a rule: you can't wear clothes in my hot tub, but that's what it is, so no one really goes in there and if they do, it's that kind of time. they wanted to get in the jacuzzi he was with it he was putting on a play I didn't even know it well we ended up in a whole situation where I think she was there because he wanted her to be there so she would feel comfortable with me which was okay, but he wanted me to play with her and I thought it wasn't going to happen.

Now I'll tell you why I didn't do it, why I don't like doing those scenarios because it will be the girl who is going to Always go and say that you won't believe what happened and here is this viral clip of a girl telling a story about her in my house with me and with her and now I'm the news that I never want will be the news so it'll just be you and me, well yeah, then no, because while I'm talking I'm also thinking about oh well, it is what it is in This particular point was that time and I owe him something. diligence towards my viewers yes, to ask the questions yes, however comfortable or uncomfortable it may be, wait no, that's why you should ask because there are women at home right now watching the show with their men because I'm sure they have a large male audience. because you know your profession and there are a lot of men at home right now watching this while their wives are cooking and they're probably turning the volume down because there are women whose men don't want to talk to them about things they want to explore and I think in our culture we have to normalize men and women for wanting to have an evolving sexual experience without labeling it, while trying to expel our children, are trying to do what we are not trying to listen to.

I don't want to take any man away from a woman or a man, if your man is your man let him stay there because I don't want problems. I don't deal with problems now if your man somehow finds me or finds me. is attracted to or finds his way into my space, whether it's with a woman or a man, that's not my problem, it's a conversation everyone needs to have, so I think most people watching won't have the conversation about how taboo it is to explore sexuality. in our culture because does that make that man gay?

Look now, you, you really want me to answer this question, duh, no, I don't think a man is okay, explain in the hate, I know you have, you know, with my girl and you have a baby Congratulations by the way thank you, you guys are so beautiful together. I saw them at Beyonce's concert. I'm not going to go there and deal with this and say hello and it's like I'm telling them I'm an alpha. I'm not the one having this conversation, don't make me feel uncomfortable because I know I said what I am, no, I'm going to bring it up because I'm saying I love that we're having the conversation that I can have it with. an alpha male because most men are afraid of having it, even though they have it with their God CU, they try to pray to remove these sins when in reality they are just thoughts that a lot of people may have um no, some guys, yeah, some guys.

Don't think that makes a man gay because he explores his sexuality because what I was going to mention is when you were younger when you were in your profession. I'm sure there were days when you had two girls, two. three girls a room full of women because that's what all my brothers did, that's what every man does as he grows into his manhood, at least that I know of, and that didn't make all those women lesbians, no. He made them lesbians, he simply made them have a good time to this day that does not make them lesbians they can have an experience two10 might be on the payroll to do it it's not making him a lesbian it makes him just work like that or twerking for the Birkins, whatever they're doing well, but when it comes to our community, if you say, man, that man is hot, Oh man, not now, I'm going to say this, I'm sorry I have to say it in your presence, but you told me that it could be me, please, man, I just want to suck today, well that made you gay.

I mean, it was a thought that came up, no, in my opinion, then you sucked, sir, wait, wait, you sucked it, no you didn't. Even swallow, you just sucked it, well I don't know, wait, no, you asked the question, stop asking me now, you turned me on, pause, pause, you turned me on, okay, pause, so now, now you just suck, now , what happened was when you thought. about it you didn't do it you weren't gay when you said you wanted to do it you weren't gay now you sucked it oh my god now I'm gay because the world says I suck now here you Go I have to accompany you for 30 minutes of how you don't have 30 minutes how are you still going to go to heaven 30 minutes how good go brush your teeth you're going to be fine what just look I can't be your final therapist pick one thing at a time because at this point, I can't help you get to closure , you must agree with the decision you made.

All I did was tell you how to call me to let you know, that's like asking Uber to bring you your food and then sit there and I'll explain to you all the ingredients in it and why you shouldn't eat fatty foods and this and not that, You ordered it, you paid for it, it's yours, now eat it. Bad terminology, but it's almost like you say you ordered Uber Eats and say that. person who is not a taxi driver is not a taxi driver they are a taxi driver no, they are not okay I will say it like this well, everything you just described does make that person gay, you think, so no, it's not a thought, I know, tell me how, because when faced with any decision, mhm, it is true that you make it, it simply makes you who you are.

You can't sit here and dress in blue with a hat, a gun in a holster and some handcuffs, shiny shoes. walk around with the lights on your car and then say I'm not a police officer but yeah you are or want to be so those things make you now for people who are comfortable with themselves bro you're gay you're good. It doesn't make you less of a person or more of a person it's like you're gay um my question is wait can I stay in that thought for a minute? Please, okay, so do you think I'm a thief?

We all are, but we do it. you think I'm a thief, uh, you have the ability to communicate with what I just read, but now you think I'm a thief, uh, I don't know you well enough to know that, okay, some people don't know themselves themselves enough. to find out if they're gay, that's a fact, okay, so let me tell you that if you're dressed in blue and holding a gun with the lights on and you say freeze, you might be a security guard or a wannabe cop, but you're not police. but some people may look at a police officer and say you're a slave catcher because we know the evolution of policing comes from being slave catchers, we know there was slavery, then there was Jim Crow and then there were prisons, that's why I quit. being a parole officer because I didn't feel like I was capable of changing the system, the system that's been built over generations of slave capture and trade and free labor and all that, um, when it comes to human sexuality.

I think it's something like that. It's like telling a person that they are a person who has been released from prison, you already served your time, you were found guilty, maybe you did it or not, but who cares, you served your time, you're already out, are you always defined ? that's why he put you in prison, I don't think it's fair to say that a person who gets out of prison and has served their sentence is always the subject of what put them there, let me just let me land the plane, I don't think it's It is fair to apply those rules to a single gender of a group of people who engage in that behavior because if two women were having sexual relations right now we would not say that they are lesbians.

Have you ever heard of what you would say they are? lesbians, have you ever heard of what they call double standards, it's called double standards, of course, that's a double standard, sir, it's a double standard, but it's not fair either, it's not fair, double standards are not fair , then we can say if we are having the conversation in the context because the context is important if we are having the conversation that the context is that there is a double standard in human sexuality yes, of course, but I'm not, but it's not fair and That's why I think having these conversations is important because it's extremely important because there are a lot of women who get HIV as a result of not having serious conversations with their lovers because they can't have an honest conversation with themselves if you tell your man, man, no.

I'd let my girl tell me her man was sucking on something, man I would never do it, you don't know what your man is up to 24/7 because there's no way for anyone to know what he's up to making your partner 24 hours a day. /7 and then you have to normalize conversations without double standards without those nuances no, I think you are saying it wrong, you have to normalize these conversations without judging because you have to be confident because double standards do not apply, I agree with going in any place that you know, a person or a man who has several women, it is that woman who has several men, she waits, he is like that until they have children and then that is not because they do not take care of them, no, you can.

I'm not saying that because I'm I'm that I'm that you but I have several I have a lot of kids but you too I'll help you, you too right after this I'll go straight to track practice but you don't just get to work even if you don't If you were so practical, you have worked in such a way that you have had a successful career and you can be a provider for many men who are leaving, they are not. providing but kids with sexually transmitted diseases that they don't want to take care of and a lot of excuses to be a no so wait and that's all the women watching are in the background cooking like wait let me watch this show because this is right here looking at it.

Not many of them are seeing it right now, a lot of women I know now settle for nothing good like falling asleep, by the way, they don't even work all the time, but guess what they have like a nice baby. ornament to sit by a fireplace and take a photo for Instagram during Christmas out of here and they were worried about sucking, taking care of their children, half of you bastards, and then when you grew up, these kids showed up and here come the kids of the water trying to steal. we at Wells Fargo here on P Street, go ahead, next question, are you warmed up?

Now have another cappuccino, that was look, this is what I would say because I want to get back to women having children and men stopping whatever sooner. I get to that, do you think the inability to have a relationship with a man in your life led to that or being gay, wait, say that one more time? Did you have a relationship with your father? No, do you think that was the reason? He was friends with an idiot. I don't think about my dad when I think about who I'm dating. I don't think about my dad, my dad is dead.

I don't think about when he was alive or dead. I don't think about when he was alive or dead. I don't think about him at all, the relationship I had with him when he was around was great until my brother died and he did something I didn't like and then it wasn't great, but it wasn't disrespectful, it was just okay. I'm here now, so it wasn't like we had meat or anything. He's still my dad. He's still my dad. He is still my dad today. You know he's dead now. But I didn't think about my God.

I don't have those problems oh my god I don't dad oh my god I need you to hug me I don't want you to hug me because I don't have a dad wait I didn't have daddy problems mommy problems uh I just like what I have as you know, yeah, but what I say and I don't want to quote this okay, but it seems to me that yes, that the people who are what they are had some kind of location in their journey towards the meaning that they were attracted to if no one really took me to be the hey, you have a wife , you have a family, a man, a man supports his family.

I saw my dad do that, that's where I want to be, so the fact that you probably didn't have that relationship was what you grew up with. I probably didn't have that relationship, not the man I hate my dad, my dad or my mom. Ain, it's one of those, the person you trusted that trust with came through the professional process of okay, damn, they did it, it led to that and you felt safe at that specific moment and that's your truth, that I'm not necessarily not saying that a man's inability to tell you that being gay was bad or bad or good or what you wanted to be was just like what attracted you during a very curious time in your life, that's what I'm saying, yeah, no, for me, I think it was very simple, I mean, you know, I'll tell you, when you're looking for love, when it shows up how you want it to feel when you want it, how you know, it may not look like you expect it to.

It looked, but it felt like you wanted to feel for me, it showed up, that's how I wanted it to feel. um I can say, oh yeah, I knew love with my family before foster care, when foster homes, I mean group homes, didn't have it, came home, if they had it, you know, it was never that because I share everything in the world from what I do to work to what I do to play whatever, but that doesn't mean that you don't have a trauma, although no, no, but only I can say what trauma I have.

I don't let people impose their belief system on what trauma looks like to me because what trauma looks like to you is different, I'm sure you know, my therapist always tells me, man, I don't know why you're not high. , dead or in jail, everything you've been through. I have seen how your brother was blown up, his brain was blown up, mother, with a gunshot. I cannot understand this. For some people, if life continued accumulating all this, they would not know how to avoid checking it, but what I know is because life accumulated all this. for me and what I didn't check is that I could survive everything, so I still survive everything that comes my way, so I feel like I'm programmed differently.

I truly believe that there is a superpower in my mind that allows me to manifest what I want, that gives me the drive and determination to pursue it and I achieve it and that has the ability to literally cut out a feeling or emotion, put it in a bucket and move on. pushing and has been like that for years to be able to do it. being your friend for 15 years best friends have the best experiences and I had this and it happened recently last year and one day I realized that this is the end of the road for us.

I don't need to explain why. I don't need to validate why I don't need to outline a Survivor manual for you to figure out how to get your feelings out. I'm fine, I have reached the Final Destination and I have done it with my mother. I gave her her share she passed I did it with my dad I didn't give her her share he passed I did The Breakfast Club 2 days before he passed away and I said he'll probably die soon I'm not going to split it with him and I'm going to be fine. I got on the plane leaving New York.

I got a text saying he had passed away and was okay. I sent her flowers. I didn't go to the funeral and today I'm fine so I can be seen differently and that's not because I have trauma, it's just because the God I serve has given me the resilience to get through some of the craziest situations and once that he and I are aligned with peace, I'm fine, I could understand that, but Then my next question would be who made you like this mhm, that's the question, yeah, I mean, I had to get there when you were good at night when my brother died.

This is literally the only thing I liked the other night when we had this dinner with Rihanna. There I choked up because Joiner Lucas gave me this pendant of my brother that I wear now and he was sitting right in front of me while I was telling my story and he was looking at Rihanna, Cardio, Joiner and Benny. Medina and the people I love and respect who have shown up for me when many people in my life who should have shown up never did and I started to get emotional telling my brother's story because he is the only thing that excites me. just because he was the only person who always told me you're better than me you're going to be this you're going to be that one day I sold drugs he told me I could sell it and then they told me you're not good at it so don't do that, go to school, do this, whatever, how old were you when this?

I was like 8 17 was the I was the worst 18 I was the worst drug dealer ever. So dope for one. On the day I made all these side deals, I made notes of who owed me money, you can't tell the crackhead to come and pay you back, they won't come, it was like everyone was taking the deal too. I say, look, I'm out. out here selling y'all, them all this money, I got 20 of it, 30 of them took that DPE, I don't know, I didn't even see them break theirs, but anyway, the dope gone, they gone, it's all gone , my brother said no, you don't.

Don't do IUS with crack, are you crazy? But I realized early on, you know, so I just mastered itLike I have to like Survival because think about it if you're having a bad day, someone makes your day, someone uninvited into your life makes your day and then. Now you've distracted yourself from everything God blessed you with having to do it in one day no, I don't, I won't do it, I can't do it, I won't do it, did you mention ending that 15 year relationship? closure of this or you, the moment I cut it, I had closure, so that person is still like what happened, oh, you know?

Did you carry on as if nothing had happened? Just hello, I don't wake up and go, oh, everyone. my phone is dead for me no, it's just that you know the death of a relationship with me is an evolving experience it's like okay uh this relationship is not okay oh wait this relationship has the flu wait this relationship is in critical condition it's okay, it's dead only once she dies you won't go oh no oh no no no no no no no no because um, why am I turning 15? That's why no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I see when a person does what one part is dying and the other.

The person is trying to fix it, we both have to make it clear, we both have to be both, but look, it's never really like that and then you know when you start making money and moving on and all that, you're not really. the one that changes it is the people you know Change it yes, yes, yes, you never change, the people around you change, yes, so I'm not going to have anyone around me. with animosity because my dreams are coming true and Not theirs or I'm doing all this and they're not or now there are new people in my life and why was it just us see no, it was just us and now it's Don't you know well that you evolved?

It was something you just mentioned about quitting. By the way, they will leave you during this interview. Okay, I'm talking the straight way and wait, wait, look, stop, we're not gay, we're gay. They don't have sexuality, they're just fine, but I was basically trying to say, by the way, am I your only one? Am I your first gay guest or the first one you knew about? Not because I go. I need to walk down that hallway real quick and come. Come back and sit down, uh, gay man, am I gay? Yeah, you know, let me walk down, let me walk down that hallway real quick and back, but I'm just saying here I left you in a way that you can only imagine, but this is this, we're going to get to that point, but what I mean, I love it, thank you for inviting me brother, we will make this the most fun Friday for you, I swear, I received it respectfully, yes, now, this is what I want.

I mean and this came up as my girl, that's how we are where we are because of her ability to want to know me and understand me mhm, we had a conversation where we obviously just had a child and that's why it's like how much of a responsibility it is or fuck how I can say this, who is the man's fault for having unprotected sex and ending up with a woman or the woman knowing that and still saying I'm going to have a child because many times and this is not going to sound good, but it has to be said, yes, you have to know a stalemate that comes from a mile away from previous situations, no one looked at Tristan Thompson and said it was a stalemate, okay, but there are other people who have had multiple children with other people and are still having people who has kids with them knowing that like you knew he wasn't so I don't blame the guy for that yeah I blame women for knowing that hey you knew what you were going to have.

You become a sister, yeah, and if you were my cousin, my sister, uh, family, I'm like you have to take responsibility for not going through with it and understanding that it takes two to tango, yeah, so you bring a life to this world that is. adorable but you can't ignore the circumstances you were putting yourself in that's all I'm saying yeah but why does the woman always have to take the hit because she doesn't know anything? I mean, think about it, men need to start taking the hit. responsibility real men don't take responsibility and then because it's easy for a woman and I feel like I feel good, let me say this, I feel like if a woman seems like everyone is looking for something in some way, are you looking for a man to leave it because really You're looking for that man you always wanted and you thought this was the one or it was Simon Porsha who was going to give you the Rolls-Royce on an episode of Real Housewives of Atlanta and then you found out he was a scamming ass, you did your research, like this I don't know, it's Simon's fault, it's Porch's fault, it depends on the relationship you're looking for, it's forgetting, but some people choose to see what they see, they choose to ignore what they see but it could be both. sides could be equally true on both sides I don't know, I don't necessarily know it's always the women's fault because it depends on what they're both looking for, you know, most guys do.

I'm just looking to crush something right, if you crush something without protection and get it pregnant, that's the responsibility now that you have to deal with and it's your choice and it should be your choice on what to do with it, but this is true, I believe it, but a lot of women think they're the exception oh yeah he was a bad boy before but he's never been with me and soon you'll find out you're just another guy but you're saying people don't change they have to really want to change and if they are triggered when trying to look for the change, they will go straight back to that.

Those people are at different levels of their journey so if you look at someone and say you know what I look at that person I love that person oh well they did XYZ right are they in their process of change? Did they change? I mean, you want to give people the benefit of the doubt, but you don't want to be stupid too. you know, like a lot of people who are stupid, yeah, but but, but those people again you can't paint a painting with BR brushes and say every story is the same, every painting is not the same, you know, it goes back to your question. about sexuality in my opinion, I don't think all stories are the same, everyone has their own experience at least in that, because I talked to so many different people, I talked to straight men, gay men, trans, uh, lesbians, straight women, women Black, white women I talk to.

There are so many people and everyone is so different so I never found an image that applied to everyone, we are all, we are all different, but I will say this, okay, and what I would say sometimes in my reality I can't speak for others. men, women will date, men will date, in the same situation where a man dates someone, great, impregnates, great, has a relationship, great, boom, gives a lifestyle, who knows what happens if that woman is now dating someone and the same situation happens where she gets pregnant in a different business. A decision will be made and that's all I'm saying, most men date because their egos won't allow them to date someone who will meet them where they are and when a woman can walk into a room and have the same power, the same Cloud that is. why I love ASAP and Rihanna because seeing them together is like this cosmic energy of newly related souls that just found each other, but I see a lot of relationships, I see what you're saying, like there's a woman that could be watching.

For a man who has all the money, that guy, it doesn't matter what his life is, it doesn't matter what baggage he has, it doesn't matter if he's on the run or if he's killed someone, it doesn't matter as long as he can provide me and get me a Birkin and take me out to eat a Prime 112 I'm fine, well, well, again, if you are a man who wants to date, is it because you need that woman to always need you, so your ego is always fighting? Oh, dad. Can you do it right? Both, mother, are sick.

You know, I want to date a mother who doesn't have one, but when you're with me, you'll get your because I want you to date when you're not happy. CU When you're miserable, I'm miserable and I don't have time to be miserable, my dogs Gucci and Chanel, they look at me like they're passing through here If this house ain't happy you better play gossip music. and get this out of here we don't tolerate that I don't let mediocrity surround me I don't want to hear any crying and complaining there what is the problem and the solution so when it comes to a relationship every time I see my friend I say oh my god, I'm going to go find my girl, my girl, she did it, she did it, she did it, yeah, your girl ain't got no place to live, clearly she needs you and you ain't got no place to live, you need her, you need her to all. both, a needy mother, what you have to do is leave your lazy mother and go find something to do, do your job, take your money to where you have responsibility, so that when a mediocre mother crosses your face, you will Like, no, I am.

I don't have time son, but when I hear people say oh, I need all my friends. You know I'm single right now. I'm really looking for someone. There is only one basketball player, but I don't think he won't make it. But look, here's the deal, look, I'm single and people leave, damn, do you ever want to be in love? Do you want to have a relationship? Yes, I want to be in love, yes, yes, yes, but I'm not going to find it. No. Mediocre mother because I'm not having these conversations I need you, no mother, you need, better talk to the therapist, you don't need me, you want me, you don't need me and I am, I need myself, I don't need me. you spoke this last week talking oh um what they tell me oh man I put you before me mother no because I put myself before you you're crazy you better put yourself before you mother if you put me before you oh you up before for you to start because I'm definitely putting myself before everyone.

I'm getting anxious right now thinking about that conversation. I can't believe this mother told me that. I'll put you before me. You think I'm stupid. This fool is eating. in like oh baby I'm going to put you before everything before God you don't put me before God who do you think you're talking to man hell you put me before God your ass is crazy I'm fine peace close right I already did it, why do I feel like having a conversation with a therapist? Right, man, because you make me think of all these promises that they make to me, oh man, you know you want to sit next to Rihanna at dinner, that's not happening, that works well yeah.

You're with me, yes, but look, that's it again. You have to be careful who you go out with because mom wants to go out with you to dinner, but they don't want to help you clean the kitchen. Go there, no, Jason, come on. Back on the road, but I still want to find a relationship, so if anyone is watching, let's get to that, just don't come to my house trying to play without PlayStation because I don't do that, I don't play. just jacuzzi uh facts no no no no no leave that PS5 now look at jazi jacuzzi a good yeah, now let's talk about how you got into this media industry and let's talk, yeah, right, who inspired you to get to that realm, like I mean , I.

I grew up in an era where talk shows had talented talk show hosts, now we have to settle for Tamron Hall and they're right. I think like when you had Haraldo Rivera, you knew Jenny Jones, Oprah Winfrey, even Montel Williams, Ricky Lake. Ricky, I was Ricky Lake twice, no you weren't. I don't think I ever told anyone that in the interview, yeah, if you find those tapes, I swear to God I'll burn whoever's watching, yeah, I was in two episodes, you know, I had some girls. take me and we were acting they wanted to be duh so that's not real Jerry Springer all of them St not real listen I don't know about Jerry but I know Ricky if you find those tapes hell no but you know it served its purpose um lenise we gotta find Not those tapes now, but let me tell you this clearly, yes, in the past, talk shows were like they were driven by things that moved us at the moment.

Tamarind, she follows every viral moment she can find. She's like an ambulance chaser for a viral moment and God bless her because I saw her essence quickly, she told me she loved me, she was proud of me, she wanted me on her show, this and she never brought me back, but it's okay, I make numbers bigger than her anyway. um, but you know, I feel like talk shows are just boring now, they lack talent, half of them can't even read if you see them reading the telepro, just like you didn't get hooked on Phonics before coming to work today, but that's not what entertain people now uh or that's no longer entertaining people like it was in the past with the talk shows so yeah when I watched the talk shows in the past I wanted to tell it like it was like a Wy, but I also wanted to have a heart. like Oprah because I'm somewhere in the middle with a penis break and that's what I decided to do, but then you had Perz Hilton on the Internet doing his thing and you saw him making money and then Fred on Media Takeout and different people building their brands. upstairs and then Andie in the shadow room.

I started seeing people who liked to make money online, but then I also saw people doing talk shows. I'm like, I want to do both, I want to do it all, so I decided to do what Angie did. and he were doing it but then I also made a face at him I want it all now I want it now yes, that's what I can say, pause there too. You never had a gay guest in your joke on your show. You can say pause almost after all. look at this you keep asking me questions they don't say pausethese days they don't do what they say oh oh oh ahuh no, I'm not going there I know exactly what you're going to say no, since we keep it funky no Diddy, you said it no because I'd be online working, come on, try it, he caught me, You see, I'm not even trying to be messy, the camera brought me here drinking what was that espresso, he said, well, it's going to take effect and you're going to arrive just for you, mother, kick, look, but it's not like We may get there, but the truth of the matter is that you are evolving.

I never knew you worked with Kanye the first time I actually saw you in the scene like that and I thought it was like the dope was with Floyd, mhm, right, and Floyd is a person that I have the utmost respect for, obviously, for his dedication to your craft, um, but when you see your evolution as a media personality that has so much reach from journalism, uh, in a way. from reading it as well as the media image a person like wendy williams is right that you're on record for saying she's shocked uh in some ways you see what she's like now yeah i mean charlot charlam man and I were texting each other.

That day and CU saw the dinner with Rihanna and everyone came over and he was like, "You know you have that thing that Wendy has, but somehow you figured out how to get people to trust you and like you and be friends with you and I mean." I really have a heart I love people I love culture pop culture politics I love everything and really, and even if some of my opinions on things come up a lot, sometimes my expression is discordant. I've been working on that delivery. because I've been W people to digest more what I'm saying, so I'm trying to focus a little better on my delivery, perfect my delivery, but uh, Floyd is my best friend, he's my brother, I mean, he's someone to who do you know In many ways he was the first person to say to me, "You're the Floyd Mayweather of the media and this was before I was." Even making a lot of noise, he said, I'm telling you, you got it because of the way you ask the questions. , by the way you maneuver, by the way you are brave, by the way you present yourself as yourself, put everything on the table and don't care.

You don't apologize, he says, you just have to be obsessed with what you want to do, you have to be a savage and you should never be forced to make anyone do everything you like and that's why even when I've been offered millions. and millions of dollars, uh, to do a podcast or something, I already make millions of dollars and I own myself. I may not make the millions I could give you all my life, but I love being a landlord. I love being able to do it. license my content or tell people they can't use it or wake up and decide I want to go on vacation for a month or you know, I don't have to ask anyone, I do it all on my own terms and Floyd.

He taught me that and that came from a lesson one day when I called and said: Hello champion, let's go to this club tonight. You know, let's all go out. I'll look for the girls. My boys, let's go out. He's going to give us a free table, he said man, I will never let anyone give me a free table because I never want to be obligated to anyone, I never take anything for free and from that moment on I have never accepted. anything for free, so I learned a lot from him, but I also taught him a lot of things like I didn't have an openly gay man in his world at the time, uh, and then I made it clear on my second time.

Go out with him to bring the guy I was dating at the time to DC to meet him because I told him that if you and I were going to be friends because of the way we're clicking, you have to accept it too because This is the person that's in my life and you're going to have your girls around and I'm going to have him around and we all sat down and had the same conversation. He goes, wait a minute, so Jason is your boyfriend, yeah, and he said. but you had never dated a guy before he said no and you're not gay, he said no and that's how Flo said get out of here.

I had the same conversation, we had to have a whole moment, he probably still thought that me. I was full of things like you, but you know, the guy you were dating I didn't think he was gay, he had never had a boyfriend before me and now he's with a woman, he's never been with another man, he had an experience of how you navigate through Straight R of his life no it's not specific it's not real it's not like that pause you know the experience the journey how you navigate yeah bro we don't know I can't wait until you edit this man.

By the way, I'm running for office, so let's do it right. I'm Jason Lee and I approve of this message face uh, but how do you navigate or what are some context clues for you to say oh he goes? I mean, I think I know because I am who I am and I feel very comfortable and confident. I think there are moments where, like, we just look at each other and we have that moment where it's like I see you, I see you too. and it's okay because I'm not here to make sure everyone sees you, everyone G to see you how you want to be seen, but I see you and you see me and you know what, uh, when we're in it, it's just the energy, but He surprised me a couple of times.

I'm like what you know and, uh, but you know God bless everyone in their process. I want everyone to live back, going back to what you said before, when you live the most authentic experience, yes. of your life when you're literally every day you wake up and you don't have to go out and be

nobody

but you man that's so liberating that's true and I really feel like God's protection over me is when I find myself in spaces where people don't like me, that's God saying: stay away from that thing over there because that's what's going to make you lose everything and, real quick, if I can use this.

For example, I'm going home to help these children. The guy tells me, the councilman, are you a friend of Rihanna? Go ask him to help you with these children. Think about that at that moment. If you see the video, I crossed my arms and wanted to destroy it. I had everything lined up in my mind for what I wanted to say to this person, weren't you arrested for stealing from your grandmother when you were a child? Weren't you accused of sexually abusing your young niece or cousin like all these accusations? all the things about you and you have the audacity to talk down to a boss like me, someone who has made more millions of dollars than anyone else here, who has more influence, more reach, who actually came from The Gutter and made it. in front of my community, my family and these kids, telling me, "Go ask Rihanna like she's an idiot." It took everything I could not to destroy it, but I just went and found Rihanna and did it.

I can't, I can't because you know what I didn't even give that life, that's how I had to get over myself. Let me go ask Rihanna. Let me show you all what she looked like. Okay, you thought you were going to kill me. You thought you were going to kill my dream You thought you were going to stop me from being a leader No, Rian saw that and stepped up, so my point is that in that moment I had the choice to show up and be me. and I did, but it's not the old me that would have lost it, yeah, and I just put it all out there for everyone else to see without context, I gotta stay away from that guy, you know, so that's the part of evolution. what I'm in I don't know if it's therapy I don't know what it is but I'm happy with it you said there's a difference you call yourself a cultural critic yes, not an entertainment journalist right, what's the difference? um good for me as a memory, remember, was that Cisco thing and that place where they used to watch movies and they used to have their critics?

You know, I see how the industry develops, I see how entertainment politics develop, I have an opinion, uh, that's why they're not journalists, they don't really have opinions. In my opinion, they are writing a story. They are telling a story without expressing their opinions. I like to have an opinion. I have never written a story on my website. I don't write stories, I have writers who do that. I have social networks. I don't publish in Hollywood. I unblock my writers. They do all that. They have editorial discretion. They do what they have to do, of course, within the guidelines I have established. and if there's anything questionable they'll ask me and I'll say yes or no but when it comes to my opinion I get my notes on what the top IC is and then I just say what I think, I very rarely go through all the notes you started unlocking Hollywood in 2015 yes, who me now in 2024 how many employees do you have, oh now there are probably a total of 14 million, yes, because now we have a chief revenue officer who focuses on generating revenue, we have a chief financial officer who is responsible of making sure that we're properly managing the money and the cap table and these investors in this and that and then you know we have um uh, you know, we just launched Healthcare unlock, which is a complete healthcare initiative to get The Americans are healthier because people don't know that there are affordable health care options for them and now, for people who have been kicked off of Medicaid, the government kicked about 11 and a half million people off of Medicaid and we're helping to sign them off. .

People have worked with celebrities to promote making America healthier again, so there are different parts of the business that have evolved from a website and social media page to a show and original content. Now, you know, we're looking at the technology side and developing. our app and our network, we have an awards show you should attend on June 21, it's a flight at the Beverly Hilton, yes, we are evolving, there is so much more we want to do, from everything you could have covered, for what was like that your need to cover the zeitgeist or pop culture because look what's happening to Diddy right now.

I'm not saying Diddy did it, I'm not saying he didn't do it, he didn't do it and I'm not going to go. Saying no, Diddy, you know, that's the whole joke online right now, but when you look at it, we cannibalize ours more than they do, we're sure to cancel each other before they do and we'll become a laughingstock without understanding that we are. I really like to make the layup to pass to someone else. You saw when Kanye got canceled for doing what he did and what he did was very reckless and how he decided to articulate his thoughts, but then you saw how easy it was for people.

He tries to hunt down and kill Kyrie for retweeting something that existed on Jeff Basil's website. No one ever mentioned Jeff Basil. So you know, when I look at the application to the Culture Council, when I look at the narrative of how they used to vilify Floyd, and here I am. on the plane with this super generous man, taking care of everyone, inspiring kids everywhere we go in the world, all over the world, people know him and are inspired by him, but to vilify him or make fun of him or do this and that, I say There has to be a platform that has a little more accountability, you can still be a critic, but you have to be fair and impartial in how you deliver it, so that's what I thought I wanted to do as a Critic, It was Charlamagne who told you why he was someone else.

He looked up to him, you know, and you see the evolution of him from when he was a Wy to now, you know, I looked at him and said, man, it's really hard for me to say what you are. but anyway you're a cultural critic so I called my lawyer and I called him a trademark cultural critic because that's what I am and now that's what I know because they would say oh he's a blogger how are you doing to call blogger? put me in one not that there's anything with being a blogger but that's your way of minimizing my impact that's your way of minimizing my power that's your way of minimizing my influence and dumb people will accept that I'm much bigger than that because there are people like you you know the people on The Wendy Williams Show who told me I wasn't big enough to host their show, then I went out and built a show that was generating more numbers than Sherry, you know, shout out to Sher, the love. shows now, but you know, when she first walked out the door, I killed her in numbers and I didn't have the big infrastructure of a network behind me and you know, all these advertisers, it was just me, my three people and a studio I built. and we smashed them to death with the first episode of cardi B, so I look at it as, again, you know, being a cultural critic, you have a responsibility to the culture and at the same time you're a critical critic to protect it and make sure that Other people recognize that I feel that way.

I mean, I'm sure you're here on the set of funky Friday, funded by yours truly, and I've always felt like I've said this many times that what I penetrate or project into the world is something that I want people to see authentically. . I want people to see like that. bro, I care about telling the truth and I want to be very relatable to the people I want to impact, you just can't put me in this corner to say, oh no, don't say that or don't do that. as not brother, I want to give people hope by saying that you can still achieve it by being yourself, yes, and we live in a very sensitive world, I must add, but at the same time, being fake is popular, being real is emasculating, it's very scary .

It's really scary as I don't post on social media like I used to because I understand the weight of my influence and the words I use but there are times I see things happening and I want to say something but I choose now. Only do it if it's on my podcast or on my show, it's part of my show because if I follow it on Instagram it gets todifferent people, you know, but we live in a world where everyone is ultrasensitive and this is the craziest thing. part of how we are all trained to be enslaved to the bull, you want that brand endorsement, you have to comply with the guidelines or comply with the culture of this brand, well, if not, if your opinion or your free thought does not fall within the guidelines of a brand that is going to pay you, that means they pay you for your thinking, so you are not really a free thinker, you are a slave, so I don't have all the offers that I could have and I don't and I'm going to get offers because they're offering them to me now, but I keep telling everyone that if you want me to work with you, you're going to have to understand the level of freedom in which I operate.

I'm going to have to be able to say what I think and what I feel and here's the scary part Howard Stern can do it Joe Rogan can do it but if you're black and brown and you do it oh no, no, I didn't think that noose was out of your league neck, you better go back there and sit down. See, that's why I love it, they can't catch me and as soon as I feel like they're going to catch me like Tam Hall, I don't do it. I don't really hate Tamar Hall, she's beautiful, she's a wife, a mom and all that, but I like why all the black people keep saying you don't like black people on your show, there's a doctor, if you go and look, Dr.

Ian, I think his name is. and he said the producers there were treating him like a black man. He got into all this, you have to go see him anyway. There's a problem there because you're too busy chasing Tik Tok like most of these rappers because you're following Tik. Tok, well what happens when Tik Tok is banned? Oh, mother, you won't know who you are. Am. I go viral on Tik Tok every day. I don't even know how it got there. Just find your way to T. I don't know. about Tik Tok but now everyone is enslaved to being fake because being real is something that ain't like nothing else boy you ain't in line but Joe Rogan and them can do it and get $200 million to do it.

It's really crazy, but I think I have to ask and you are in the position that you have created for. You are admirable. Could you add everything that's been going on with Diddy right now? Yeah, how does that affect your real relationship? I'm pretty sure you've built a relationship with him respectfully over the years of knowing who he is, what he represents on your show. was on Revolt, yeah, I'm not friends with Diddy, he's not my friend, we don't hang out, we've texted a few times, I was in his network, I've been to a lot of his house parties, um, let's start with different . didy silos okay, okay, on the one hand, cultural icon, has done a lot for music, fashion, culture, has a school, owned a school network, one of the few black owners of a network, um , musically, has inspired the world for years, um, as a human being, is.

I had a lot of conflicts, you had Tupac's death, Biggie's death, all the drama we had, the shooting with JLo. Shine went to prison, maybe he shouldn't have gone to prison. There have always been these stories about Diddy being evil. I heard he was the devil. I heard that he was evil, he even threatened me once, but I don't know if he was the daon or Sarat or if he just felt, but I was taking a photo at his house and he came up and told me: "I never try." I'll let you know right now I'm a different guy.

I said: do you want to be in the photo or not? Because I'm drunk, you're drunk and I'm not going to do this with you. Yes, he was in the photo. in the photo he said: "Me with you man, if you don't get your crazy Dr. Jackal, Mr. Escondido, out of here, but you know that was the little experience I had with him, but every text message was always love , it was always great, it was always nice." Me, when I see him and Cassie together, I have a video somewhere on one of my Snapchats, them dancing around the house and having a great time, all love, I mean, I've seen Diddy have to hire extra security , almost the army, to prevent people from wanting. climb the wall to get into his house because on the other side of that wall is Beyonce Jay-Z and all the big stars you want to know TD Jake was there too but I don't know if he was opening up I'm just saying Hey because they said that too about the good bishop.

This is what I hate about the Internet. If you say it, it's true. If you think it's true. If someone retweets it, it's true. Everything is not true. I don't know what I am. I'm just saying the fact that they said the bishop was opening up. Honestly, I had to take a break that week because I said what we're not going to do is take a break from a man who has touched the world or whatever and in a way that all of us have felt in our Spirits when we need to be full of the word of the Lord and castrating him that way, yes, but anyway, going back to Diddy, we saw his children the other day in handcuffs.

We saw Ivanka Trump and Trump Jr. in handcuffs, but dad thought they were Spider-Man climbing the wall to kill the vice president and take control of Congress to stop an election, but we haven't seen a mugshot or anything because we're teaching people who see black and brown people going to will be treated one way, white people will be treated another way, black and brown people will be cannibalized and evil and V and and vilify white people. It is a misunderstanding. We will not call a mass shooting in this country terrorism because white people kill everyone we go to. call it a gun debate no, it's terrorism when you go to school and kill six year olds, you know, Kamla Harris.

The biggest problem I have with her is that she just hasn't been able to put her feet firmly on the ground. culture and understand, she said that America is not racist and now she is running to all the black churches that will welcome her there because she got advice from a white person who told her that is the way to get the black vote, so I am very sorry passion for these What I think we're seeing with Diddy is that we live in an era where celebrities have to be careful and afraid at all times because all I have to do is put everything I want to say about you in a lawsuit .

Let TMZ or Hollywood unblock or anyone else file the lawsuit because you can't sue, it's a public document, so it went out into the public for them to do their dirty work and then regardless of whether you're guilty or not, you're going to go. losing everything for sure and then when you get to court you lost everything and okay yeah you didn't it's crazy so I'm not saying he didn't do it or he did it I guess. If he goes through his process like R Kelly did, but we watched the tape of R Kelly so we knew he did it, y'all kept dancing to the Name of Love and asking if you could fly, you saw what that did to that kid , but anyway. with Diddy we didn't see all these things.

I saw him and Cassie hugging each other while dancing and you know whatever. um and then she said what she said, we don't know if it happened or it didn't happen, we know she had a bag we don't know how much and then that opened the floodgates to the dog pile on Diddy and Diddy lost everything he lost his school that helped children black people lost their clothing line that none of us bought Sean Shan John at Macy's lost Revolt, lost his Grammy nomination, Lo, lost the deal with Sara, he was getting 50 million a year, don't let those deals go away, he lost it all and then we are happy about that, I don't understand it.

No, we're not online, it's not us, no, I'm not happy or I'm not happy, but I'm just saying, wow, what you're saying is that it's propaganda, right? It's something to avoid or like holding shit. on one side but on the other. On the other hand, it is magnified to say that these types of people are bad when, when I look at the whole situation, I tell myself that I don't know which side to take and that I'm not going to go, it's too much to handle, but I see. What is happening and too many people are being affected.

As a father, what do your children think? It's not fair. And I think one of the things for me is that there are a lot of people living vicariously through you, directly and indirectly, that are impacting your life. I know, you know the beautiful twin and I say to myself like they're at an age now where they go to school, how does that happen and you know, obviously, you know their kids were handcuffed and those are just the things that I'm like me, but crazy, you know Donald, I know Justin, I don't know Christian as much as Justin, I know I've known Quincy, probably 15 years, those are really good kids and I'm going to call them kids even though they're grown up. but they are very good people to see them handcuffed like that I'm not going to lie and I don't know what's going on on both sides and I'm not a fool Defender, let it be very clear, if he did it, he should go to prison.

You know, everyone I've talked to says something about Diddy, he's evil, he's this, he's that, but how can you say that? Wait, wait, but let me finish if they can. be a, you can be evil, you could be pure evil, you could be a thief and the publishing sector, you can be all these things, but that doesn't mean that you have your children, who are good children, looking for young teenagers to bring them back and have them. sex with I don't know if it's those kids if they find evidence that they did it I would literally be shocked because I know them and I don't know what those people are and I've never seen a kid in Diddy's house other than his own kids so I don't know Diddy has a lot of kids running around his house and I've been to a lot of the parties.

I haven't been there overnight. I haven't been there when the part is on. I don't know them intimately like that, so if it happens I would say wow and then he should be held accountable, but I guess what I'm trying to say is that I can't wait until the time comes. The day we stop rushing to judgment and taking everything away from people before they get their due time in court because you're grooming the next person to make it easier for them and the lawyer behind this lawsuit that has just started. I just found out he's the same guy who went after Tiffany, who went after Nicki Minaj's husband after he'd done his time and all that came back and said, "Oh wait, he and Nicki Nell are going after that bag that you try to dope" and then everything calmed down the same. because he is an ambulance chaser who even tried to drag me to some and I secretly filmed them or recorded our conversation and put it online because I'm just not that, I'm not afraid, I want all the smoke, so when I look at a lot of these celebrities They have all these brand deals that are tied to millions and millions of dollars.

They can't, they don't have the freedom to defend themselves, so they just sit there and watch them get destroyed. And I feel like, no matter how successful I am, I'd rather lose everything standing up for myself and what I believe in and standing up for what is and against what is not, than to sit back and just watch myself lose everything that I am. silently, but isn't it a little contradictory that you say that, in addition to what you said, it usually comes from, in other words, that it's our own people who are doing it? With this media trend of attacking dad, it comes from Hollywood, unblock well, we are not criticizing it, we are reporting what is out there, but just when I sat here and told you my opinion on who is publishing it, a minute ago We published a story about young Miami, we got information that she was in the Galla test. in New York and not with the drug mule in Virginia Beach, you know that I am not her publicist and if they want to hire me as a consultant to help them overcome the crisis, I will consult them, but yes, there is a platform. a platform where we don't go out and create lies about these people, we tell the stories that we see, that we know and most of the celebrities that we have relationships with, we will find out through them their team or whoever their perspective is. to make sure there's a fair picture of what's going on, you know, Amanda Seals once said, I'm like you're part of the problem, Jason, you're part of the problem, well, who's the problem, the people who can ?

I can't digest enough for these stories, the people who create the news we write about or the people who make money doing it, we are all part of this ecosystem of chaos we are experiencing right now because the world is just a click away away every 15 minutes there is a new chaotic moment happening, true, but I will say that I am seeing it as fair as possible all the time because I am close enough to enough people to be able to see it and say wow! I see that the story that has been written about you is not true so let me help you learn how to better tell your story or what happened here and that is why I think I have so many relationships because people know that I am not in this alone for the clicks the clicks are going to come but I want I want to get to the heart of what's really happening look at this as the click is going to come you've been part of many high profile disputes in the industry I Mr.

Lee but they're all one-sided, I swear to God, I have a heart, I'm not even doing anything, three of them that come to mind, three yes, no, Jordan Woods and Khloe Kardashian, that was that conflict, someone who abandoned, no. mine just says Amber Rose and Kim Kardashian really not Kanye West and Chris Jenner well here's the deal. I texted Chris the other night and she didn't respond. Chris is in hisfeelings. I'm sure she has fewer birthdays ahead of her than she does. behind her so she has to find peace at some point Chris Jenner there's probably a text from me somewhere saying you know you're my industry mom because I loved Chris Jenner when she was friends with Rob Kardashian.

He loved her because she is smart. Sharp, she is a gangster when it comes to closing a deal and she will do anything as a mama bear to protect her children and I think when I became who I am, she lost track of that and didn't pay attention and I The last message from text I told him before this the other day was that one day you're going to meet a motherfucker who doesn't care and I'm someone who doesn't care, don't text me or call my phone. No more of that and the industry would say, "Oh my God, you can't talk to Chris Jenner like that because he was peeing and every time he did that, a Kardashian came out, the Kardashians don't control my life, they don't understand." for D, I turn off the light, there my water flows whether a Kardashian likes it or not and we wouldn't let a black girl pee like we let Kim and make the whole family famous, but we'll let Kim because she's Kim Kardashian I'm not subscribed to the boy.

I love the Kardashians for work because there's a lot to talk about, but there's a lot to talk about. You had a daughter who went through a transformation and she thought it made her so beautiful that her man made her. stay home and he went and dropped it off and it turned out it was for the girl who lived in the backyard of your sister's house now why is it my fault? Because I told the story, that's my job. Do you get mad at the man at the Drive-Thru window is a Taco Bell because he hands you a Taco mother that you brought out for that taco, eat that taco, so all I do is serve the tacos, some get mad because he does too hot, some people get too spicy, oh my god I did it.

I don't want that mother to go eat a salad at a taco in this destination, how spicy is spicy and when I told Kim, when I told Chris Jenner that I needed to eat that taco and that I shouldn't call this phone. that cue again this cue stay close because I don't lose anything, if the Kardashians don't like me, I don't lose anything if they don't support me, they haven't done that yet, so it was crazy that the evolution of that relationship led me to be Tim Kanye while he was going through his divorce with k Kim Kardashian now let me ask you this as a black man how many kids do you have eight let's say for example you and your baby's mom are your wife you're getting divorced all your kids are in the house with her while you're trying to figure it out, she goes and finds her a white boy.

I'll just say white because this was this situation. Pete Davidson remembers Pete Davidson and his sick ass of him riding around your neighborhood with your kids sitting on his lap tattooing his names. his neck and G and they light you up like a black man and then your baby mama uses the press to lift you up because she knows that if you lose it when you go to court for those kids, she can show how crazy you are as a black man. Man, any man that's going through that is going to lose control and that's what was happening to Kanye at the time I was working with him, so every day I try to motivate him to find creative ways to articulate his thoughts. and this is Kanye who just Kanye without all that, yeah, on top of that, now I could see a man writing and then after this man, one day I was on the phone with Kanye, Pete Davidson texted him him lying in Kim Kardashian's bed. bed and said: I am in bed with your wife, where you don't know where your children are, who is taking care of the children, you can't, security prevents you from entering the house to see your children, a house that you built, if you do. lose it but Chris Jenner is so masterful he'll make the world hate you in the midst of you losing control that's why you should be losing control so you know I'm not going to take it how another man texts another man man, there are certain things that I hold sacred, I'm not going to lie coming from a man and I have no sexual jurisdiction with the women I love, meaning my baby mothers, I've moved on, they've moved on, but at the same time it'll be better I never give a damn if that jurisdiction ended or not out of respect, if you text me, I'm with your baby mama right now, so imagine this, the world already thinks you're crazy because Kanye has done a lot of crazy things, but then this. it happened like you were supposed to reply, yes I told him not to reply, if you post something even though you would be right now there is a lot going on because that was when he was burning up social media every day.

Like please, right? Smart Pete Davidson had his friend post on social media, so it went viral. Now you called Kanye out publicly and then he responded: that's how masterful they were at trying to make this man lose control and I wasn't. I'm not going to lie, I lost a lot of respect for the Kardashians because we know you like our problems, but you don't like our problems. If you go to March, you're not going to go to the March because black lives matter unless it's black people You care about all your kids, they look like me, all except Courtney because she said keep them away from me , keep them all there, but their kids bother you every time you turn around, okay, but isn't Courtney's husband someone she used to use? him too when he was married to shannon mler anyway i'm just reporting the news i'm telling you the new i'm asking you wait listen i'm asking a question sir shout out to odell i heard he evaded that there are new reports that they o i love odell odell you're smart, You know, I tried to understand that with Kim.

I ran into her booby trapped recently at the strip club, yes she was coming out of the bathroom. I thought, what's up, Kim, you know? and it was awkward because I love her hustle and I want to be a fan but they're just doing what we can't do and they're doing it to us and we sit there saying you got your skims like it's real. I'm sick of it. Keeping Up with the Kardashians is no longer anyone. You no longer do a show called Keeping Up with the Kardashians and then get angry when we continue with you.

What do you want? Khloe wants you to stop talking about his hands. They look like dead chicken bones. You were supposed to do it, you had a show called Revenge body, what is Revenge? You wouldn't have it sucked and hidden, stop asking me questions, go on to the next question, keep no, because I have changed, I have evolved, the next question is J, that's why I don't I don't like doing long interviews because after an hour it's like hey , you know what they ask, they always ask like in production, or I ask myself this, what do I want from this interview?

I want someone to be like me. I never knew I needed it. a Jason Lee and Cam Newton collaboration, yeah, you're going to love it, you know, I don't care if people like me or not, like what I say or not, whether or not they like this opinion when it comes out of here. I'm going to go eat the best food I can find in Atlanta and I'll be fine and then I'll go home and do my job and then listen to gospel music probably to play the foodfighters and then come back and hit the new paid Kanye uh I'm just here to get paid, you know, I don't care, everyone's going to investigate, yeah, you know, I'm just looking, you know what, let's change the energy real quick here. come on, you get it, his producer is there trying to get me in trouble, no that's what not to respect, that's the president, the president could be from Christian Mother Myers, his title keeps changing first, he was here, just have this drink, she was a barista, but no That's not what happened at Diddy's house, I just had this drink, okay, okay, let's change supposedly it's a joke God, I see I make one like the one he came here with a vengeance and I'm just trying to put on a good show, no wait.

Because when they said the bishop was opening it, okay, no, let me tell you what, let me, no, very quickly, no, very quickly, because I love TD J. No, I defended him on Twitter because I thought, "You know what I'm not going." For everyone to say that the bishop opens up because I love him like a woman is a loose pause, but then I thought that the time I met him was at the Diddy house, so my context frame was going to be strange, but now they know. I love the good bishop. I only mentioned that because we all need to pray.

We are at a time when we need real prayer. I think too many people are being accused of something that today you are guilty of until proven. innocent instead of innocent until proven guilty, that being said Mr. Lee, yes, can we get into our game? Yes, finally, damn, two hours later, I love it, by the way, this game is called the gossip ballot. Okay, Jason Lee, the rules are simple, we'll give it to you. you're either one or and you have to decide who takes the title okay almost like a superlative game okay so this ballot is the most controversial Donald Trump or Kanye West Donald Trump Donald Trump the absolute most toxic relationship Bobby Brown and Whitney Houston or chran rock and blueface my favorite blueface and cran but I love it I'm part of that circus free blueface please like the internet is boring right now.

I'm almost going to write a letter to the LA County Jail to say what we need to do for early release. I'll start funding something, a petition, yes, but I don't know if they're reading it like that. I already came to visit him. I was going to visit him. I bought all of their Blueface merchandise for free. I'm also supporting him. the movement take it out, we're bored, I mean, best female artist, this is a two-part Megan, a stud or Nicki Minaj of those two, yeah, people will probably be surprised by my answer, but Nicki Minaj, I mean, she has a much longer life. uh work library, I mean, she's made some good music, the second part of that question okay, I know where you're going.

I'm not going to answer the second part because I'm not going to tell everyone that I'm going to tell you why I'm going to tell you why I'm not giving you that, what am I going to ask? I'm not even going to tell you what you're going to ask because my job, as I told Norga, is to predict predict the next move. I'm going to answer that question because I want all these girls to be at peace. Megan was shot. Nikki was her husband. I can't go to a park there. There are so many things happening now.

I just want everyone to get along. My second part. No. I know what you were thinking I know keep going, best female artist, you chose Nicki Minaj. My next question is about Nick Minaj and cardi B. I love them both in Motorsport. I thought that was the collaboration we needed because we needed to see two. The amazing women in rap do what girls used to do back in the day and then everything after that just fell apart because the world saw their F thing unfold and I was a part of all of that and I'm not in that space anymore because I want them all to be great.

I want to go back to the first lady song where we can see all the women in Hip Hop being great and honestly my spirit is tired of the conflict in this as in all of this and I think they are all great. happy right now Nikki is on a world tour doing great or I don't know if it's a world tour but she's on a tour doing a great card releasing hit after hit after hit and she just said enough, enough of this, I just love you . both say less more shocking Camala har Harris or Michelle Obama Michelle Obama period most notable Rihanna or Beyonce most notable yes superlatives you know, I'll say it again, we're watching Michael Jackson and Prince perform in front of us, because if you say money Rihanna is worth more on her own, really yes, yes, she is a billionaire, she is worth over a billion dollars, it is her brand, she has built a brand and the only distinction between Beyonce and Rihanna that I will say is that beyon is now starting to build herself as brand, while Rihanna built herself as a brand.

So when it comes to Fenty Beauty Savage, you know, I mean, Rihanna's brand is different than Beyonce's, but they're both equally exceptional. I'm walking very, I'm walking on thin ice with this and I think we're living in a time where you have to show yourself in some way to the community, in fact, as great as Beyonce is, we don't really know anything about her, nothing and that is the point, as you know. I think Beyonce would ever assist a donor. dinner for me to help get young people, no, she's going to give her contributions to the culture and the community the way she does, you never know, but I mean, she may or may not love Beyoncé, right, But am I waiting for you to see me?

No, you know, I'll still go see all her tours and her music and I'll support her for her contribution and what she stands for and it's cool, but yeah, posting an untitled photo that only goes so far if you want people to feel . connected to you because once the music doesn't play anymore or once you don't give us that anymore, then what else can you do? Yes, I think Rihanna has made it known that she is who she is, to love him like she is her. what is and that's that's that's the wave that we've been on in the last five to 10 years, you have to pick a side that moves alongside the more dominant sister, Kylee Jenner or Kim Kardashian, dominant, um, I think, uh , Kim Kardashian.

I sure wantto say she's not, you know what's crazy, there was a time where I thought Kylie was overshadowed by Kim as a brand because she was like the younger generation with all the brand stuff coming up, but then Kim hit with the skimming and all the things she's been doing, uh, but when it comes to liking that family and how they move, Kim is more hip, Cam Newton or Jason Lee, I mean, I actually saw a YouTube video of you on your closet break, um, did you have a big closet break? um, so you're clearly more fashionable than me, yeah, you're more fashionable.

I saw you at um Coachella just walking really fat like you were walking really F. You were a guy with a big ass like that's Cam Newton and you were hip so you're hip. Now I thank you, the best male rapper in the school, Bad Bunny, he was not part of this good school or Kendrick Lamar. I don't listen either. You're both phenomenal artists, but who do you listen to? The Clark Sisters. Okay, no, but I did it just so you would have so much poison. Poison is not a word I have. I don't have poison, but you like the information.

Yes, that's not it. Holy information, so you can't go on like Yolanda Adams Kirk Franklin TD Jakes Clark Sisters, but that's the vibe that Jason Leeb unlocked in Hollywood is his own thing, I don't know what, oh, those two different people, yeah, I don't know. I know what my staff listens to or who I'm referring to I know Kendrick's impact on music I know his impact on La I know j.cole's impact I've met them both I think they're both phenomenal artists But I don't have the I don't have the credibility to say one is better than the other because I don't hear either of them say less Drake D that bunny Drake Over b or Bad Bunny over Drake Bad Bunny I told Bad Bunny the other day you're bigger than Drake because Bad Bunny touches all areas of the country's sexuality.

I went to a show. I saw men and women dancing with each other. He is very inclusive of all cultures. Each person. The way his metrosexuality is shown attracts the entire world. I'm not saying that Drake is not a great artist because he is a great artist, but I don't know Bad Bunny, I've only been to his two shows and the impact is different, the impact is different, say less touch now, last ask. which is an extra question really two because this is a late announcement. I'm going rogue. I'm going rogue when I say this statement.

What is the first thing that comes to mind? Pause, okay, pause, who's culture's relationship? who is the culture relationship in what respect whatever when I say who is the culture relationship you say well who is the culture relationship um it depends if you are a vulture you are the Kardashians, if you are a protector, you are me and Charlamagne, if you're a hater you're Candace Owens, it just depends on what relationship you're asking. I'm talking about a relationship like a marriage relationship with culture, yes. I don't know because everyone is very fickle when it comes to clearing the cache.

I don't know who is married to him anymore. What is the culture? If you ask, some people are angry because they like who looks at the culture and is like that. are relationship goals oh oh the relationship oh that relationship none are all up like who right now what none who is Lori Harvey dating right now she was objective I mean, but she's not I mean, I don't know the culture, I don't I know JayZ and Beyonce are they Will and Jada, you're being funny now, the culture, you're funny now, your ass is a comedian, chish, enough, don't be the next question, the relationship with is fine, the C, yes it is Well, let me stop playing and people are going to think that I.

I'm biased, but when you think about culture, the culture that I influence in music is Rihanna and Rocky, in my opinion, because they both represent the culture and every layer of the culture and the way they intersect is so organic. and true. their impact and how they are presented in the culture, yeah, I would say Rocky and Rihanna touch on the ultimate question in the game, the most polarizing figure, who is the most polarizing figure. I mean, to be honest right now, I think he is, I think he is Donald Trump, I think he is. Donald Trump because it's affecting every part of the world right now, you know, I love democracy and democracy sometimes becomes an exchange between you know what we need and what we want because we want peace and we need peace, but We also want to be rich and successful and we want you to know that we can live next to our neighbor without conflict, but at the end of the day most people only need to take care of themselves and not others, he is the most polarizing person because when you think about women, we're actually having a conversation in this country about whether or not women have the right to choose over their own bodies, something that we know that as men, we would never allow that to be a conversation when you think about Muslims and him saying that they are terrorists, that is not true.

I know a lot of Muslims that don't subscribe to terrorism when we live in a country where there's terrorism around us all day and it seems like you know people that you know are our neighbors, um, when you think about black people. people and attacking their right to vote and democracy by trying to stop the elections. I mean, there's so many things that you go on and on, but the most important thing is that it's also showing that it's a safe space and that America is becoming a safe haven for racism. stand up again and I don't want to live in a world where people hate each other or judge each other or people have the opinion that this person is bad because of this or that.

I just want people to do what you want to do. Just don't mind me, um, I don't care what trans people are doing and what gay people are doing. I think Dave Chappelle and his stand-up is some of the most brilliant work I've ever seen, but that doesn't mean I hate my friend. who is transsexual, I love it all, it doesn't mean I have to subscribe to any side we live in a world right now where it's so polarizing to be a free thinker and in my opinion it's a result of this. The freedom of expression that Donald Trump has hate speech is not free, it has a price and we are all paying for it, so yes, I think he is the most polarizing person on the planet.

Just before we leave here, this is something that I. I've always asked like you, you do a great job presenting the news. Right, what's the bad side of that? You know what I'm saying like do you like it? I sit in front of very influential people all the time social media influencers rap artists movies It's starring normal people or whatever and it's always nice if my album doesn't sell at that moment or the movie doesn't have numbers to You, what's that bad side? I think the bad side is that sometimes I have given too much. of opinions here, uh, today, where some people are going to go, oh, why would we want a city council member who feels that way about the Kardashians or feels that way about Tamrind Hall, short people that are dying?

In my neighborhood, no one cares? of that right, so I talk to real people about real things and with real solutions and real resources. I think about my side and my business and what I have chosen to do, that has given me a life that I could only imagine and dream of. Well, as a kid growing up with nothing, sometimes people's feelings got hurt in the process. Today I flew to Atlanta. I went to the BMI gospel award. I sat at a table with all the gospel artists I listed. I sat right behind your row. Adams Kirk Franklin The Clark Sisters whatever and I look and see Kimber Kim Barell is someone who back in 2012 when I had an event with Whitney Houston and she died the next day, then, you know what she went through a year later, I honored her, I had Kim Brell there because they were close and I love Kim Brell.

I live for Kim Brell, but as a critic the things I've seen in the news about Kim Brell I've had to criticize, so you know, I say things. and sometimes I don't know if people see it or not, but Kimber came up to me and said, you know you used to really love me and worship me in a certain way and at some point you lost that because I heard what you said and I saw what you said. and I and I felt bad hearing her and how she felt when she heard what I said, but I stand by what I said because what I said is what I said.

I believed at the time and I still believe, but like I told him, take my number and if you want to come and sit down and talk about it, we could talk and I'll come with an open mind. I'm going to be honest about how I'm sorry because that's exactly what it is, but you know, I don't feel good all the time when people I love or have loved at some point are on the other side of criticism and then I have to stumble with them and I don't feel uncomfortable, but I feel like I just said it.

I think it is very well said. How do you navigate when you're just the messenger and no one sees it that way? You know what I'm saying, like you're reporting the news like you're coming in. Here and you hugging me the way you did, it felt good, but when I walk into the room with celebrities sometimes it's like the air is sucked out of the room and I walked in to get a Red Bull because I'm not. drinking right now, but you know, or a coffee and and I feel it so naturally and I'll say, hey, how are you, you know, and they are and they're good, you know, uh, yeah, it's just weird, no I don't know, but I agree because I know it's my job, but I try to do it as objectively as possible.

The truth is what it is. Sometimes the truth hurts. I'm not a fan of everyone, but I still try. To be fair and those I'm a fan of uh I'm not necessarily a friend and those I'm friends with understand my job and don't mix the two you're okay with being the bad guy the truth is the bad guy I'm just the messenger by Jason Lee you came, you saw, you conquered oh pause, wait, I came to the studio, I conquered the interview, uh, but the most important thing is that I did it like this when you come to my show because it's different and it's fun.

I promise you a safe space man first of all you'll be honored there you'll have a good time it's a wild ride we do it on a Friday so it feels like a fun Friday you know I promise you'll love my show let me tell you what camera I'm going to tell you that he tried to play with me because he's trying to get me out of here before I say my piece. I get a DM from Cam Newton about coming on the show like who am I, you know? What I mean is Cam Newton, so I'm responding to him, so I'm like you hit me, here's my number, okay, yeah, yeah, he talked in circles.

You made so many circles. If you had a hula hoop, you'd be a Hula Hoop Champion in so many circles, you never got the number, but it's cool because I wasn't trying to scream, you know what I mean, I know it's with my girl from home, baby in way or whatever, here's my number, but look, people love me. They love to do this, but honey, no, they don't come near me. I'm not the devil, I'm really a good person and I don't feel it and I don't feel that you are, yes I feel that you are genuine. person, especially after knowing this conversation, yeah, um, but the truth is that if we keep it up, it's funky.

I'm like, yeah, certain things you do, I don't judge them, yeah, but it's like I come to what I like on my terms. of my delivery of things, no, hell no, it's like he's telling me, okay, professionally, yeah, I hate that you get everyone I want, you're lying, that's a big lie, that's no, but you joked about the cran you had before me, oh, when I heard he flew here to Atlanta. I said take it out now. Look, you know why because Adam 22 did that to me with blueface and I called Blueface. I said: how dare you?

When Chan FaceTimes me from Atlanta, I'm like what. you doing in Atlanta cam show I said oh man I love Cam man kill it. I have the phone. I said turn it off. Now that's the competition and then Amber. I've been trying to get Amber. Alright. I have you. Let's do it. that happens, say I love her, I love Amber too and it's one of those things like this is a healthy competition and I respect your art of what you mean to the culture because it's necessary. I'm not going to sit still. here and perform, I think there really is no competition because there is no one in your world that does what we do like you do, not even Shannon Sharp and it's not just about numbers because Shannon Sharp will never be able to recover from the fact that she had one of the most viral videos ever, but then she sits online and cries all day like "How are you going to block me?

Block my entire staff. Block Hollywood. Unblock because we're talking about you if your name isn't Shakira Hips Don". No lie, you got out of the car in that green suit. I didn't tell you to come out like this, but now you turn around and I'm the bad guy, please, I can't wait. I was a fan of Shanon Shar. when that white boy was up there playing in his face and he quit his little job and went out there trying to do what we do if you don't come into this world if you can't handle it I can walk through fire any day anywhere I don't give up who it is I'm going to stop just because this is the deal I don't lie I'm just doing the Lord's work that's hard for me it's hard to hear because I'm a let me get Get out of here because I'm running for office.

I promise if you keep talking to me I will come back after the next interview, but keep going because everyone wants to do it, but not everyone hasBeyonce level. Talent, no, you. You're not Beyonce, you're that girl who she told to pick up her bags and leave, so I don't care if you get 50 million views. 60 million views when you get it, you have to own it, you opened the floodgates for someone. to appear and appear on all the big stars in the world and now you're angry because no one wants to talk to you or if they do, they're using you the same way they would use me or Wendy.

I'm not even jealous. I'm sitting here. I laugh because I see memes of someone people respected turning into Wendy Williams when they say you become a gossiping woman so get out of here on this show, do something similar or you can follow the instructions. I said something wrong? I mean it's just my opinion no one listens to me we have to get you out of here okay thank you anytime I'll be back let's start with this camera here okay then we'll go to this chamber here okay then let's finish with that camera right there and when I say Let's all together say love, okay, wait, but I have to look at the three cameras or just look there.

I'll guide you, okay? homo I feel safe Jason deliver oh okay I have to touch your hand it's not okay it's okay but I'm not I just want to meet you at your comfort level say that camera I don't give a damn I'm the most comfortable you and I that's what I'm Saying now if you ever want to go with me to Abby what's that just come on let's go okay here we go yeah oh wait what do I say hand out yes a finger right there do it I point at the camera yeah oh here we go a finger I want Pinky, wait, the camera starts again, I got, I got Cam, I got a GED, slow down, say, okay, come on.

Aim here, let's aim there and then we'll aim there. and then we're going to finish right there you have it just one finger one finger one pinky one thumb all together one love one love well listen we have 10 here we go listen pay attention Jason pay attention here we go one finger one pinky one thumb all together one love I still have an appreciated GD thank you thank you thank you oh