Detective Realizes The Victim Is Actually The Killer

Yeah, look at the body, yeah, what I think, I think you've been lying to me about this whole thing, you misunderstood, I think you're alive or what I think, definitely, you've got your damn box, you've got the government gunman. dead. All I know is that the guy told me they were suspects in the murder case. The first thing I thought about was that gun and I don't know what's going on, but I want to. Know abroad, this is Samantha Wolford, a young mother, wife, and aspiring YouTuber turned ruthless

killer

. Hey guys, you asked me to make a video. 15 strange things about me.

She has just arrived at the sheriff's office for a routine interrogation after her husband was kidnapped during an alleged home invasion. It was an unimaginable and sadistic plot, the kidnapping of a young father and a feudal race against time to find him before he It was too late to go back approximately six years Samantha, a single mother of 10-month-old twins, was just 19 years old when she met 23-year-old Ernie Iberra Jr, known to his friends as Dagan, the two began a relationship that soon became marriage and eventually the couple had three children together, although they were doing their best to get by in the small town of Mount Pleasant located in Titus County Texas the relationship was already beginning to fall apart it was no secret that the couple had their problems however it ended escalating to a point of no return and no one had anticipated that things would end in such a shockingly tragic way because Kenny 911 what's your emergency I have a house inviting my niece is tied up I'm at the birth of untying my niece at this particular moment because she's tied up she's tied up and dead and gagged so yeah, is there anyone else there or where are the kids that we have? five little babies to sleep five little babies to sleep yes, between seven and one, seven and one years old, yes, ma'am, do you know?

Can I talk to her? Can she speak? Hi Samantha, I know you're upset, but I'm going to ask you a couple of questions, do you need EMS? No, they didn't do anything to be Baby Wise. She is counseling now. Now I hit her once. She is fine. David just asked me the answers. They were bruises or something and she said no. They hit me. in the face okay I hit you in the face yeah they had me tied up and they took me downstairs to face my husband and when my husband confronted me they hit me in the face that can fight me and he looked at me and then they said I thought that would get your attention and I want you to stare at this woman do you want us to kill her and he said no and they said then tell us the truth and he said no I don't know anything when someone gives too many details on a 9 call -1-1.

This may be a warning sign that you may not be telling the truth. The purpose of a 9-1-1 call is to get help immediately, since Samantha is not. Currently she is no longer in danger, her main goal should be to get help finding her husband instead of requesting that agents be sent immediately to look for him. She is telling an elaborate story about what supposedly happened. There is no sense of urgency in finding her husband if she is someone. When lying on a call to emergency services, they may feel the need to offer all these additional details because they want to back up her lie.

Samantha's love for acting is no secret after all. She always wanted to be an actress, I think so. Very funny. I have been extras in movies. I have had small roles in short films and I have done plays. I think it's so fun and so beautiful that it's one of the most surprising ways. It is a great art to be able to express yourself in that way. I think it is incredible that members of the Titus County Sheriff's Office responded to the crime scene shortly after 2 a.m. m. An investigation immediately begins into the violent home invasion and kidnapping of Ernie Iberra Jr. in the following footage. is raw body camera footage recorded by Corporal Chris Durant and Deputy Ed Godoy just minutes after the Twisted crime occurred.

Sheriff's Office, come on, I'm upstairs, I'm sorry sir, it's okay, I'm sorry, it's okay, are you still talking? I'm sure you're here, let me. You have it and I'll take care of it and you talk to them, so explain to me what happened. I'm honestly not asleep and we heard a noise and the moment I was able to open my eyes someone grabbed me and pulled me out. off the bed and hitting the floor and he started tying me up it's been enough for me don't move okay and I was just letting him do it and what's your husband's name I'm just writing around Ernest Iberra okay the officer is conducting a typical interview field investigation at this point, however, these statements may be admissible in legal proceedings, body camera footage may be reviewed by investigators and inconsistencies are discovered between the initial contact and subsequent interrogation, one of them said the Luke's name, but that's it, that was it.

It's just that me, hello, Luke and the doctor, that's the only ID. Samantha changing her voice to imitate the alleged intruder may be an attempt to dramatize the attack to make it seem more believable, although her voice is emotional, she does not

actually

express it. A lot of concern for Dagen and instead she seems focused on telling the story of everything that happened to him. It is discovered that Dagan's phone was also taken by the assailants. They took his phone but they didn't take mine. He had my knitting, so I could. So he has his phone number, no, they have his phone number, that's what I'm talking about, what is his phone number?

Well, I need that number. They cut off my shirt and then made me stand naked in front of him threatening to do things. to me, the guy that said they were outside, around here, I was in the living room, and he told me to get you a shark, get it quick because I'm not this kind of person, so I started digging through my closet, he told me, get it quickly. and I pushed the knife against my throat so I grabbed whatever shirt okay and put it on he grabbed my shirt and started cutting it off he cut it at the neck and then he said what's your name Samantha Samantha Wolfe where's that shirt ? below what color is a gray sweater gray sweater okay, okay, yes, I have uh, the front door has been broken down while he dictates the details of the crime scene to send Samantha takes care of her own urgent matters and sends a message text that says as follows hey, this is what we have to do.

I need to make an emergency phone panel, yes, and I have the cell phone number. She immediately contacts the phone service company in the hopes that they can track the position of Dagen's phone and guide him. The police arrived at his location before it was too late, the spray paint was already on the walls, yes it was Halloween time and he did it, he was already here once for this, they cut his hair, he's okay and you said that also the pants you were wearing said that you're I'm going to want something from your husband and she brushed a lock of the turtle's hair before saying that those are his pants that he was wearing, yes, yes, it was the sweater that you had on the floor, on the chair, okay, I said, I have another car pulling. up let me go see who it is due to the fact that I was marking with my nose I just stood out there for just a second for me okay let's go over this real quick because right now this is the most important thing you know let's figure it out This is because I want to say that this can help you trigger something that helps us. you know 0.86 miles from a residence.

Do you know someone. Samantha

actually

knows someone in Pittsburgh, as it happens. the officer continues to gather information from Samantha the Corporal talks to Samantha's mother Rosie and Samantha and Ginger how are you okay uh you're the one they found her yeah okay so she called you first she called me okay bound and gagged and then she called me We live in Winfield Do we have any idea where her husband is? That's what we're trying to find out. I guess he has something to do with people who would be part of Circle. That's all I could muster. is that it had something to do with people you know Samantha says that The Intruders name someone she knows is the reason for the attack on her husband for the privacy of this person is that it was never proven that they were involved in the case we have redacted their name throughout Samantha will continue to mention this person's name throughout the investigation.

Samantha sends another urgent text at 3:19 a.m., reading at this point investigator Chris Bragg arrives on the scene and the corporal begins to bring him up to speed. Interestingly, the researcher is immediately. skeptic I have a fairly volatile pass and we arrested him before yes, solving it and the influence makes sure that she did not do something decisive States the same to make it seem that something happens the investigator is developing what is called a theory of the case this is the same theory of case work a prosecutor will do to paint a picture of criminal activity by linking statements of physical evidence and circumstantial evidence to prove guilt Beyond a reasonable doubt, look down and you'll get cuts on the top of your head and they had him kneeling right here and they ripped out part of his tear when she went to smoke there after a short climb up the first floor, the corporal then guides the investigator to the staircase leading to the bedroom where the attack occurred. he started I'm going to kick the door in to go up these stairs yeah that's the only part that gets me is how they would have to be familiar with the place to be able to do all that and know where they were sleeping and the babies are sleeping there.

Both members of the Sheriff's Office note that conditions at the home are not ideal for the children to live in after seeing the area where the five children lay sleeping, although the body camera does not capture a clear view. Deplorable conditions, yes. I'm not really seeing much blood, although for someone who was pistol-whipped, the investigator proposes that Samantha go upstairs to provide more details. I haven't seen him or anything, possibly they tied him up and kept saying he caused this. pause this asking for compensation twenty thousand dollars remember this will be important later in the story if you just wait for it to hurt I'm going to get some bags of evidence I'll be back and grab my camera I'll be back, you're trying to accuse me of something.

Her story falls apart immediately here, although Samantha's reaction is typical of someone caught in a lie. However, this is why all interrogated subjects must request an attorney and refuse to answer questions. The motives of the police are often not known. Although it is common to start with a large group of suspects and eliminate them rather than starting with an empty group and trying to add possible suspects, this means that you are immediately classified as a suspect or material witness until proven otherwise during the investigation phase, according to the Glock standard. issued or I can see it I can see it you can take it out yes, so I have to do the paperwork really see compared to the government he had, but the gun he had was too big or his hand was too small or the other one fit pretty close to the size of his hand, this is a very strange request given the circumstances, it is noteworthy that in the middle of Samantha's chat with the officer, she does not seem to emphasize that her husband is missing, it is possible that this is her attempt to be friendly. and distract the officers from the situation, as she may believe at this point that the police may consider her a suspect.

She took someone from us. The only thing I can imagine is that they are saying art about someone they said something about now that she is behind bars. Go to bed last night around 11. Just a couple of hours before the invasion occurred, next time she will have a different answer to the question: how old are your babies? Yeah, one, today you have four, five, they were there writhing a minute ago, um, the investigators are. Samantha doesn't seem too worried about her children, but it seems like she's already getting impatient with the investigation. What she doesn't know is that this is just the tip of the iceberg at 6:10 in the morning, just a few hours after the violent invasion of her home. and the kidnapping of Samantha Wolford's husband, Dagan, reaches the Titus County Sheriff's Office in northeast Texas, it is here that the disturbing story will begin to unfold.

Go to sleep Samantha calls her mother, but she shows almost no emotion during the course of the conversation. She seems very self-centered and her behavior is quite strange for a woman whose husband has disappeared again. Samantha gives her mother a food order over the phone. It's surprising she has an appetite at a time like this. He lies down on the floor which is very childish and is unexpected behavior for an adult Samantha constantly acts more like a high school student than an adult mother Chris the researcher walks into the room oh we heard something I feel like there's something he He hasn't been telling me, but I don't I don't know what once you get turned on I think it's something to do What do you think would be happening?

I hate and I'm usually right and I hate that, but that has a problem with getting involved in things you don't need to. involvewith Samantha seems to be establishing a potential motive as to why the attack and kidnapping may have occurred she continually mentions the same person in her speculations about what may have happened she has been using whatever group yeah what about you? I can do a test right now. This is a compelling statement that can be a red flag for possible deception. When someone tells the truth, they are more likely to simply deny it outright;

However, when someone lies, they often feel some anxiety about whether they will be believed or not so they can add these types of convincing statements to support their lie, the lieutenant has never been involved, it is interesting that Samantha claims that she has never done drugs, without However, David Smith, a former friend of Dagan and Samantha, claims otherwise because there was one who went out and made a little money. The Jeep Liberty was supposed to be sunk in her, but I later found out from Jeremy Rule that he was her pickup dealer. Needless to say, Samantha's credibility is becoming increasingly questionable.

You hear about what team she was on when he was on. I looked at the clock. and it was like 1201 and I was like, yeah, you have to get there because you have to get up in five and a half hours. It's true, Samantha says she and Dagan went to bed at midnight, instead of 11 o'clock, she. she gave an officer who responded to the crime scene, as you may remember, her story is starting to change what is her first memory of what is happening. Well, I took a vibe, so it's a little harder for me to wake up and I have a prescription with me if you want to look at that, but when I can't sleep it's supposed to turn off your brain so you can go to sleep but also get to a place where you can wake up quite easily Samantha gives two more inconsistent statements in a row when someone makes inconsistent statements, it can be a red flag that someone is lying after telling a lie, additional lies may need to be told to back up the original lie, it can It can be difficult to keep track of everything they've already said, so liars can If you get the details wrong and give conflicting information, you may have worried after making the first statement about having a hard time waking up. how that made her look, especially being a mother of five young children, and maybe she's trying to back off. because she wants to be seen in a good light so that her story about Dagon is believed, of course, I remember that at some point it was a little after one if I saw the clock maybe on my phone, so it's still quite cloudy because it's quite early. waking up after taking a sleeping pill doesn't add up considering she had taken a prescription sleeping pill and woke up.

She suddenly shows a little emotion and speaks as if she were reading a script. People who have been traumatized rarely remember the details of this. Of course, this could be explained by Samantha trying to provide the investigator with as much information as possible in an attempt to find her kidnapped husband, however, the fact that Samantha has repeatedly confirmed to the investigator that he can verify her story, as verify it. The environmental prescription suggests that Samantha is trying to preemptively rule out any suspicions the investigator might have about her story, they said: Do you want to stop killing her, too? and he said no, please, no, please don't give power to my children, okay, then we would touch a child, I don't know if it was a tooth or it was just saliva or blood, it smelled because they had the lights on down there.

When they started to cut my clothes and put me in front of a naked person in this part of the story it seems to be invented the sweater she said she had worn had no obvious cuts she didn't recognize the voice I tried to listen to everything they forced him and told me not to call to the police maybe he said not to call the police the police and they hit him with the guy who had said that's not what I said so that I told him that he said please tell me what to say again please just repeat it to let them repeat it.

He couldn't understand what they were saying because they were so close to his face and growing in his ears, okay, Sam said, don't call the police. I don't care what happens, don't call the police because they will come back and kill all the children, promise me. and screaming with happiness, however the five children who were nearby remained asleep throughout the chaos, the police and Samantha's aunt will look into this claim later, did you say something about your money or did he say what do I have to do, please Please don't tell me what. I have to do and he said, twenty thousand dollars, do you want to, do you want to do what you have to do, can you get twenty thousand dollars in the next five minutes, but he laughed a little, it was just black, I don't know anything about that. weapons, could you know the difference between a revolver and an automatic?

Oh, it was definitely like a police gun, it was whatever they are to me, the automatics were small, barely bigger than your hand, you might remember I had specific questions for the corporal at the crime scene is foreign, the investigator now changes the conversation to a different aspect of the routine investigation, it could very well be that this is where things start to move in an undesirable direction for Samantha, she hits him and kicks him, she stabs him, none of that, I'm not going to find We won't find out anything different later once we get there because the agents are out there right now, you know, basically, they search your house from top to bottom forever, a piece of physical evidence so we can find anything that help them find it, it could be. a red flag that there seems to be a verbal and nonverbal disconnect here she shakes her head as she gives the

detective

s permission to search her home midway through this statement she switches to nodding her head yes she possibly

realizes

that you made a mistake well actually that's why i want to make sure because we're going to check your phone records, your family's phone records normally when the police want to search something the fourth amendment requires them to get a search warrant otherwise, The search is unconstitutional and the evidence they obtain will be disposed of out of court, however, the police can obtain certain types of records without a search warrant, for example, the police could obtain a suspect's call records from their telephone company normally. .

This log will only show the police what numbers a person called and at what time do I know the absolute truth that you had no possible involvement in this? I wouldn't have come back if I hadn't. Were you willing to do whatever it took? No, I know you know who we can call to find. reason and the only one I can think of is because they kept mentioning it he has no idea at all his palms go up in a begging position which indicates that he may lack confidence in his statement his palms are seen facing up while he makes a declarative statement like a big red flag because it suggests that the person is begging the other person to believe them and may not be sure of what they are saying.

He does not have friends. I don't go out much. The only friend I really hang out with. I have English and Sulfur Springs I don't like drama I don't like outside chaos so I stay home I'll stay home Samantha continues trying to direct the investigation towards the same person she named, she portrays herself simply As a housewife, However, her domestic skills appeared to be lacking due to the condition of her home, as police noted that the environment in the home was obviously not child-friendly in a report later written by investigator Chris Bragg, who is currently questioning Samantha.

Vivid details are exposed of the terrible conditions in the Iberra home, the rooms are dirty and unsanitary, with garbage, urine, feces, clothes and dirty diapers strewn on the floor. I'm obsessed with, like, making sure an animal is being taken care of on the road. He deserves to be taken care of They are like children They can't take care of themselves Chris describes the children as dressed in dirty clothes and looking like they haven't been bathed recently. We continue as Chris continues to pressure Samantha and me. I'm watching this guy punch him in the face with the guy over and over again, horrible, I was hysterical, boy, she didn't, she didn't make you feel good, no, because you told me you felt good because you wanted to stab and kill at some point . moment when everyone loses their temper, but have I ever acted badly and hurt someone?

No and you can look at my history when she says you can look at my history. This is what is known as a compelling statement. When someone lies, they can make statements. Things like this sound convincing to convince the other person, however, someone telling the truth is less likely to use convincing statements because the facts are on their side. I have a cat that committed a criminal mischief and that was because he threw my keys at someone. who let him use my car and they didn't have a license now, when they cut off your shirt, did you, I mean, was it violent or just yeah, no?

Well, they ripped it out and started cutting it with this seemingly boring cutter. and when it didn't work they ripped it off over my head to the side no they started cutting like they were going to cut it down or across and the blade didn't work so they said I ripped it off over my head . but until tonight you had nothing to do, yes, what I need you to do for me is make me a list of everyone you know, friends, family, contact numbers, your boss, where you work at Little Caesars, your boss , we work with the Woodcraft tackle. the investigator leaves the room and leaves Samantha on his list.

A few minutes later, Sheriff Tim Ingram walks into the room and tries to get to the truth with Samantha and that's why it's very important and we want you to be honest because I. I'm going to tell you what evidence was found at the scene, it just doesn't match. I don't think you're a harmless guy, but I think you know who did it because it's like when you kidnap, why is there his blood on your? The speaker kidnappers are not going to use the truck to do something with him and they will take him out and put him in the truck call him back yeah his choice with me is what yeah someone made it obvious to me that someone used his truck when someone it felt.

Especially anxious, his mouth and throat may become drier, which may cause increased throat clearance when swallowing or coughing. If any of these behaviors suddenly begin or increase, it can signal

detective

s that they are on the right track and should question the suspect further. The cough here could be related to this. You may be panicking about the news that blood was found in his truck, and coughing is an attempt to reduce the discomfort and dryness you feel in your throat. You are taking yourself to another place. I told him they have. in his truck because they wanted his ID because they said they needed to verify 100 that they had the right person is what they said.

I don't know if they were one of the people that hit him or not they sent someone to the van to take his wallet to check his ID he came back in and said yes he is who he is and when I still don't explain why his blood is in that truck, they hit him in the face like a hundred times, well no, but you said they left. he went out and did it and got it he was never supposed to be in that truck if he had done it if they had blood on their hands no it's not blood it's not directly yes he was in that truck and this is what's going to look so bad it's it's your story and this is okay, no you don't have to be suspicious and I still don't think you have.

I don't think you're strong enough to do it, but I. Personally, I think you're afraid. I don't know if you had a boyfriend. The investigator found out. He's trying to establish the existence of accomplices and hence the existence of one or more conspiracies. Okay, um, I don't know what. The deal is, but, Sam, you have the campus in the same room. , it's telling that Samantha says she's being as honest as possible. This may be another compelling statement. It sounds reasonable, but someone telling the whole truth probably wouldn't feel it. the need to make statements about being an honest person, furthermore, Samantha's statement here may have some level of truth, she is being as honest as possible without incriminating herself and adding what I can may be an exclusionary qualifier that allows her to tell you to the Detective some of what happened while he was withholding information about his specific role in the crime there's just a complete layout of your house and the way you said he was taken away um it just doesn't make sense that the interrogator is doing a good job at appear neutral even though the evidence points to Samantha being dishonest with him, he acts like he's on her side, the more he trusts the detective the more likely he is to confess, okay foreigner, okay I'm telling you Everything I know, I'm repeating everything.

I said that well, okay, you have your statement, we will contact you again, okay, you can, you can look at my record. I'm not one to get into trouble, sit there and tell me the same story, just like you're telling me.counting and oh, they try to convince me and then at the end when the tests come, they sit there and go through their whole life. We know how long the story was made up. Detectives want suspects to think they know more than they really do. do or that they are about to find some crucial evidence, leaving suspects in a panic about how much the police really know.

Investigators want suspects to feel time pressure to confess, implying that it is in the suspect's best interest to do so before it is too late. Be the first person to show up because I want to take it down, so, great, let me know, how did you call for help? It's tied up, I use my nose, so they didn't take your phone, they left your phone there, yeah, if I had a phone. and I said no and they asked him how did you get to that on my side where was it where I was on this side of the upstairs and I was tucked under the edge of the bed on this side of the upstairs who did it You called me, my Mother was the first number on my calling list.

I only used my face and instead of calling 9-1-1 for help, you called your mother. How do you press 9-1-1 with your face? Well, how did you do it? dog at your mother with your face I didn't call my mother I just pushed The first thing that appeared there turned out to be my mother, although Samantha May believes this is a reasonable explanation, she will meet another witness who will tell the sheriff's office that they observed Samantha with her phone just laying on her lap afterwards. of the attack below the sheriff wants to hear about what's been going on in Samantha's personal life well, now look, here's something I don't know anymore, I don't understand maybe you already know, explain to me, you talk about how much you love Ernie. true, but even though you're talking to Brian, you're talking to Alan, uh, no, do you think that's normal for a lot of people?

Nowadays, in general, I think there are more people our age. I wish I could marry someone like my father, he is great with my mother. There is no one else who can take their eyes off her he is the perfect husband God knows I didn't marry anyone he cheated on me more than once then I think every now and then a year that I am beautiful and to hear that I am an attractive person and not I am the most horrible person in the world. Well, this could be an attempt to not only justify her actions and talk to other guys, but it could also be a deliberate attempt to portray her husband in a negative light. she is implying verbal abuse by stating that he would tell her how horrible she is.

This seems especially unusual given the fact that her husband is still missing. Most people would avoid speaking ill of a loved one who misses the recently deceased. He may be preparing a relationship. possible defense if it is later proven that she was involved in her disappearance. Yes, Ernie ever looked at your phone. Yes, tell them to say: did he say those messages before you talked to them? Yeah, what are you doing without saying anything? I didn't particularly like it. but after what he put me through he told me that as long as I didn't bring anything home or do anything in the house then he didn't want to hear about it he didn't want to know anything about it I told him I'm not fooling you, yeah these guys are telling me They say I'm beautiful and they tell me I am, you know, and I go out to my mom's house, I go to the bar and I go dancing.

Before, Samantha said yes. She didn't go out much and she was just a housewife. Now detectives are questioning her about the boy she was talking to. She suddenly changes her story. She may have given her first statement because she supported the narrative she was trying to weave. how she was a homebody who didn't know anyone who could be involved in her husband's disappearance, however now detectives have evidence of her texting with other guys, she needs to support this new narrative and yes, she may has had too much to drink and someone says Hey, can I have your number and let me give it to you?

But that's all. Samantha seems concerned about others recognizing her as beautiful, given her repeated use of the word to describe herself. This could be a possible indication that she is a narcissist. traits anyway I'm sorry this little button appeared in the corner of my screen and I pressed it now my lighting is different and it makes my face look blotchy and I don't know if I like it. I'm a little vain, I guess. a narcissist requires excessive admiration. She may have felt that she did not get the recognition from her husband that she felt entitled to, so she sought that attention from other men hidden in her statement.

She may want to move on and move on. There, after talking about what happened, you might want to talk about it to include who you've been friends with because who's to say one of these guys didn't set it up to try to get you to where you're single? and I could come in and look for you and just use that as a point, yeah, and that's what I'm saying, I can know something without even realizing it and I know something, the detective is laying the groundwork for the development stage of the technique theme Reed by suggesting that one of the men who was interested in her had something to do with her husband's disappearance.

If she can admit this possibility, it will be easier for her to later admit to having knowledge of it and eventually confess that she was actively involved. When the sheriff mentions that perhaps one of her male acquaintances set this up to leave her single, she picks up on this idea as another reason why she may be realizing that her story and performance are not going as well as she once imagined. Plus, she is the Victim, it seems she will do anything to divert attention from herself. In October things exploded. He put her hands on top of her.

I put Criminal Trespass on him, not his sister, because she was acting crazy and harassing me. My friend David Smith had spoken to me before. He said he could come over later that night. I told him it probably wasn't the best idea that Ernie was going to be there. Um, who is this David Smith? He called and reported that he was there when he realized that he intended to give her the opportunity. Be the best person you say you're going to be and go through the housebreaking courses or the anger management courses and go ahead and do what you say you're going to do and I'm going to give you that opportunity to get out of the house. his without having a judge to force him to do it many anger problems, yes, yes, is he very jealous of you?

This is different from what she said earlier about how Ernie told her she could do anything with anyone, as long as it was. At home, Samantha seems to enjoy playing the damsel in distress and that David Smith and these others men come to save her from her supposedly abusive husband. This is another example of Samantha's need for attention, which is common among people with narcissistic personalities. personality disorder yeah, um, David Smith, because he and I had been dating. He had no intention of ever hearing from Dagon again. Ernie, I never intended to talk to him again.

He tricked me and put his hands on me. He was young, good. His sister talked to him, talked back and he said she said she loves you blah blah blah she wants to be with you. Well, I was on a Skype conversation with him and David was in the house and he heard it, that's what he did. He got mad and he started freaking out at me and treating me like shit and threatening me. David, this guy who was a friend and just a friend wanted to be with me and when he realized that he intended to get back with my husband, he freaked out.

I need to know where David lives if you say this around you. I need to know where he lives. There is a way we can make absolutely sure and clarify for you. We can give you a positive test. Do you care that he talked to my mother before she was completely okay with it? Well, but now, if you have nothing to have, why would you want to talk to your mother? Because it's nothing against you personally but just cops in general, you hear such negative things and how they're not willing to help you and CPS is the same way and I just want to get my mom and dad's opinion on if that's the case. better for me, you know what you know what I think, I think it won't be any longer.

I've been keeping your ass in my thoughts, so I think you've been lying to me about this whole thing. You didn't understand it well. I think you are a liar. What I think. I think you know exactly who did this and I don't. I don't care about your damn story for a minute, that's what I think, so I'll tell you whatever we do, let's move on. It seems that the interrogator's anger is an intentional tactic. Here it evokes Samantha's desired reaction, but it can also be a setback to the overall progress of the interrogation, any trust built now gone.

This is a change that is used only when there is overwhelming evidence against the suspect hearing this. Samantha may be experiencing the freeze response here, her body is completely still with her mouth open when someone senses danger, like Samantha, realizing here that the police don't believe her story one bit, they can stop all movement, This is an instinctive response to danger movement that invites attention, so freezing can make someone momentarily feel like they can bring attention down on them, which is why Say I've tried to be honest with you all the time, yeah I'm going to tell you right now, the DPS is very good, so if you have nothing to have and what bothers me is that you even hesitate to take advantage of that moment.

It would positively clear you up or positively prove that you are having something, but what will make you guilty is that when we prove that you loved us here, the sheriff points out that lying will essentially make her guilty, although this is somewhat misleading, as stated above. The police are legally allowed to deceive suspects as long as they do not force them to confess. However, inconsistencies between Samantha's statements and the evidence could be used to suggest that she is aware of her own guilt and that she, therefore, is using lies to cover it up. The investigator is attempting to establish knowledge of guilt or, more commonly known as consciousness of guilt, this is most often established through circumstantial evidence relating to the suspect's actions or inactions following a crime.

I know who did it and why they did it. Alright? That makes me an accomplice, no, I'm sure not, that makes you a scared mother with children. Interestingly, Samantha asked the sheriff about being an accessory. The law generally treats accomplices just as it would principles, meaning that accomplices can face exactly the same legal problems. Penalties Most states hold a person criminally responsible if he or she aids or abets another person in committing a crime. The classic example of this is a getaway driver to rob a bank. It is important to note that this is a different concept from conspiracy.

A conspiracy is when two or more people make an agreement to commit a crime and at least one individual within the group performs some overt act to commit the crime. In such a case all conspirators are criminally responsible for the conspiracy. I feel the other way around. I don't know. I don't even know, I know, it's okay, I didn't open the message from the hospital so it's okay, she's going out there and I swear to God I can't go up there, I said none of this is okay because they have a lot of friends around here and My life will be in a long time to change, okay, oh, but the only other thing I know is to coin the bird's talk number about the problem, like I just told you.

I have a problem talking to my friends about our problems. I don't have many of them, so when I do. Go with one of my friends. I want to talk about the incredible problems we may have had, and honestly, there haven't been many of them lately. We've been having problems at home and I haven't seen Charlotte in a long time. and she has this guy in the room with her and he's talking about how a man shouldn't treat a woman that way and how you don't do those things to a person and he's going to deal with the situation that I didn't do .

Take it seriously, okay, see, Sam, you know who did this, but that doesn't mean he did it. I just have what he said, okay, who is this guy? His name is John John, who is his Facebook. Rebel John Rebel is uh John, uh, I don't know. I actually know his last name, but his Facebook says John Rebel. At this point, it seems like Samantha's crying could be attributed to the fact that her story isn't yielding the results she hoped for and not to Dagan losing himself. This behavior is consistent with her. Narcissistic tendencies at this time Samantha first mentions an acquaintance known as John Rebel here begins a turning point in this complex story when a new person begins to evolve.

He has a brother named Greg. He has a really bad story as to who Greg is. I was. I told him he's an informant. I don't know Greg's last name. Where does John live? Don't know. I know he's been staying with Charlotte, so if he did this, who do you think he'd bring with him? I don't know any. of his friends, but yesterday at the hospital he had a boy you know from the city with him. His name is Tay, who K rhymes with. Samantha starts getting all the cats out of the bag in just a few minutes.

She implicates John Rebel, who will do it. They will soon be identified as John Sanford andthe store that currently serves as lacona's home to attempt to locate the weapon a search in this case does not require a warrant when someone with a controlling interest gives permission to search a premises including a tent is an exception to the warrant requirement judicial at the Sheriff's Office Samantha is once again riding the dry erase board as a couple of written questions are directed to the sheriff's office, she continues to put on a show, these behaviors are once again very childish and immature, often people with personality disorders will display immature behaviors in high stress situations, they in particular often recoil and these behaviors become much more evident there you go, I bet you can see the drug or the gun, a gun, well, can you see it?

Would I tell you to go look in the store? It wasn't in the store, was it? Well, I don't. I don't know where, uh, all we want is the truth and I'm telling you all I know is that the guy told me they were doing a murder case the first day that my head was that gun, I wasn't in it, but It was just that and I don't know what's going on, but I want to know. Well, just like the other officer told you, we're investigating a murder. Well, last night they killed a guy and executed him.

Not supposed to. to have him, he wasn't a convicted felon or yeah, okay, obviously, you know that guy has a family and they're going to want to know what happened to his son and his father. I mean, the guys have young kids, so we just want to try to get the facts together and get justice for this guy's family. Is there anything you can tell me at this time that will help us with our investigation? I do believe he would have done something like that. I pointed the gun at you before, yeah, okay, no, I prayed, but damn, I didn't thank you.

I was going to separate myself from them like this. This important information that was discovered due to the officer's general question may explain it. Why didn't Lacona reveal the location of the gun? It's possible that, if she knew where she was, she kept the location a secret for a very different reason than to avoid trouble herself or protect someone else. Instead, she may have feared retaliation from JoJo if she spoke out. We have yet to hear JoJo's side of the story, but it's going to be difficult to climb out of the hole that appears to be getting deeper as members of the Sheriff's Office leave with the recovered gun believed to have been used to execute the man.

Dagen investigator Aaron Baxter, sitting with Lacona on February 24, just four days after Dagan was killed during our last encounter with Lacona, when the gun was recovered near the store that served as his place of residence, seemed to imply that His days with JoJo were numbered, however she initially referred to them. Jojo as her fiancée in this meeting, she may have changed her mind and decided not to end the volatile relationship after all, as a result she may be less forthcoming in her interview than the sheriff's office would have expected. . The day we were there I had that feeling.

I just said it was a feeling because because I don't know, it was just a feeling and you said before, yeah, when it comes to other people, he's not, he's not, I mean, he's, he's. a talent that when he came to me was different other people he was an account he always backed off by five people and I just don't, I don't see it well because it's so interesting that I don't even know it until now As I knew, Jonathan was the only one who I knew and then I discovered Tay's number. JoJo known to Jonathan didn't know her, so why would she be?

Lacona seems really confused about the conspiracy and why JoJo would participate since she hadn't met. Samantha until the day before the murder, according to future testimony provided by John, the three men smoked methamphetamine while on their way to the Iberra house, perhaps this statement could explain Jojo's seemingly uncharacteristic violent behavior, so why Did you never find that weapon in my equipment? I promise you no, where do you think I found it? I know exactly where you found it, which isn't a place where Jonathan punched him, seriously dropping Buddha Bear. Yes, JoJo seems to believe that by knowing where he was hiding, he may somehow be able to do it. pin the murder on John, he hits him with it for a job near the best road, yeah, whose gun is John's?

Where did he get it from? it was supposedly used to murder Dagen it belongs to John although JoJo isn't sure where or how Jon got it well and again we came out from under the house I guess it belonged to Jose it was mine it was a gift from him to me it was mine Well, it More importantly, perhaps Lacona will confirm that the gun recovered near the store belongs to her in JoJo, not John. What I have to do. I have Samantha's version. Samantha is the lady with the ring. I never met him until yesterday, so you're up there.

Charlotte and them that's when they met, that's when I said I missed them, I met Samantha and, um, I met her five kids, we all left, we got to Walmart, we were at Walmart for a moment, all of a sudden, Octavius Rhymes approaches. I said man, I have to go. I told him why because my mom just called me and cursed at me. I tell him I'd better call them when Jonathan drove me home that afternoon, even though Octavius ​​was home. Octavius ​​ended up leaving with Jonathan they left me together and my wife stayed home suddenly I love the seven or eight last time they came back this time they showed up with Octavius ​​Jonathan Samantha and her kids Jonathan takes me aside thanks God, I didn't talk to you, no I don't know what's going on he says look well he says it matters uh he wants us to do something and he didn't tell me details fantino we went to the place suddenly he tells me what he said look I just need you to stop jojo describe what it's called a criminal conspiracy between him and John to commit the crime of kidnapping another important revelation is Jojo's claim that Tay was a willing participant in the conspiracy despite Samanthas and John's initial reluctance to implicate him, it turns out that the old cousin was In reality, Tay all along, Let's hear it straight from the source, met Octavius ​​Tay Rhymes, whose identity Samantha and John initially tried to hide, Tay had requested a meeting with the Titus County Sheriff's Office with the intention of reaching to a deal in the works, however, Tay was informed that he would need his attorney to handle the negotiation with the district attorney's office while he sat with investigator Wayne Junior.

Tay went ahead and pleaded his case. I was nearby when they took the guy from his house. I did not have. I noticed that they plan to do it. As I said, yes, I know all of his background, they already have a background. I'd have some Phillies, no, I've never been able to see a stroke like this, you know, so I'm trying to work with you better, I can't. I don't really give you more information otherwise there is no agreement on the table. Dealing is quite common in criminal cases, especially those with multiple defendants, often the prosecution will offer a more lenient sentence to the defendant in exchange for the defendant. provide information to the police or agree to testify against one of the other defendants;

However, it is important to note that a criminal defendant cannot make a deal with the police, only prosecutors are authorized to make deals with defendants, therefore any type of deal the police make with Tay would have no effect. legal effect unless, of course, such an agreement was approved by the prosecutor's office and then, but she whistled, that means he was down because, as I said to me, Octavius ​​and um, how she whistled, he is like, uh, his mom just. She called, she said she's a friend she's going to send a friend to see her or something, so she said we have to go, we have to go now.

JoJo claims that Samantha told them to move quickly. Records indicate she called. her mother to alert her of the attack because her mother's house was an hour's drive from Samantha's, she figured that would give the men enough time to leave the premises with Dagan. What Samantha didn't anticipate was that her mother would send a nearby aunt to a rescue, there's no way JoJo would have known this information if Samantha wasn't involved in the ruse, and so off we go, they reach a secluded area that serves as destiny, hey, look at me, I'm looking at him, John, it was Back towards us, Jonathan pulls him out, he's holding him, I suddenly say man, buddy, you're too close, you're free to take the man's life and you are too close to the highway change.

You seem changed as a man. I really said it was going to be loud. This moment is key since with this statement JoJo may have admitted to being an accomplice in Dagan's murder. By admitting to the sheriff that she told John to get further off the road before killing Degen, prosecutors could argue that JoJo tried to help John in Degen's murder, leaving JoJo equally guilty for it and I'll be right back while JoJo waits for the sheriff to return. He knows very well that the camera is still rolling. You already know the future. Okay, I went because he asked me to.

He asks for help so you know what time they brought Samantha home to be honest I think it was before me or not but I couldn't really change the time. No, I don't remember how many times I think it was before. However, at midnight because she was talking about the kids being sleepy and she needed to get home, something about her, her man was asleep or something and she didn't want him to wake up and get angry, without a doubt, Samantha has been caught . In a lie, cell tower logs give us the real story Despite Samantha's attempts to fool the authorities, her phone was not near her house until approximately 10:30 pm on February 19, just a few hours before the invasion, a major development in the case occurs just three days after Degen's murder, although it would be an exaggeration to say it was a surprise, Samantha is arrested and charged with aggravated kidnapping and murder.

In the end, the failed conspiracy resulted in long prison sentences for everyone involved. John and JoJo pleaded guilty the following year in April 2016. They received 50 year sentences for their roles and Dagan's kidnapping and murder months later in December 2016, Tay went to trial, it didn't go as expected, however, He was found guilty of murder and aggravated kidnapping. and she was sentenced to a total of 93 years. Last but not least, The Mastermind appeared behind the entire terribly designed plot. Samantha was tried for Dagen's murder in September 2017. Not surprisingly, she was found guilty; She was sentenced to 99 years, in addition she received another 50 years for the kidnapping to be served consecutively with her murder sentence.

To this day it is still unknown who pulled the trigger and killed Dagan.