COPPER PIPE MADE INTO A STUDIO DELAY THAT RUNS AT THE SPEED OF SOUND

Hello how are you doing? About a month ago I posted a video about a machine Heimbach and I

made

while making the Pipe Dreams EP. Pip Dreams is the second EP that Heimbach and I

made

after Roto Pops. The link to both and the vinyl is below, but we did an experiment to make a quick version of the Cooper Timecube. Cooper Time Cube is a very old retard that was basically built from hoses, two different lengths of hoses in a box. and then there was a speaker on one side that was actually an SM57 microphone capsule and then on the other side there were two microphones.

I assume they were also SM57 capsules on either side of the hoses, so there were two different lengths for both. the lengths are here and this caused some very quick

delay

s, we actually had quite a bit of success with a hose, a garden hose from the DIY place yeah, yeah, no way, that's so good,

sound

s so good, we had a funnel a side with a speaker and then on the other side we had a very small microphone, of course there were a lot of people commenting about oh you should do it like this, oh you should do it like this, so I thought, let's think and also take some of the comments and such maybe I'll make a better one and maybe take it to the next level, possibly well, um, yeah, that's when I ended up getting this, yeah, 25M of 15mm coiled

copper

tubing, what I'm thinking is maybe not. be the best material, but we're going to keep going around in circles if we don't settle on one of them, but the idea is that it could be a little clearer, it could be a little clearer, it could be a little clearer. different hello, how are you doing?

Yeah, so I'm going to get a microphone. If I put this here, the

delay

will hopefully be a little bit cleaner going through this. It's about the same length as the one in the other video, but we're going to use this as a test to see if we can develop it further in the next video after this one, so I'm hoping that, as you may have heard there, it

sound

s a little bit brighter. There's also something else I want to mention about the hose. tubes and things in general, as a lot of people commented in the last video about using the ribbed uh tubes and when you talk through one of these ribbed tubes that I made in the previous video, you'll notice that there were multiple delay times that you could You hear the bleed coming out of the

pipe

, interestingly enough, if you listen to the other side of that

pipe

, it sounds exactly the same, but the volume is much lower because the sound vibrates on each of the ribs at different times, so we are actually getting times delay at multiple points throughout the pipe, bleeding out of the pipe.

That's what you're hearing. You're not actually hearing the end result. You are listening to the sound coming from the pipe itself for greater control of the sound. we want, we don't actually want it to do that, though, that's another effect entirely and if this one works well maybe we'll make a box with it where the microphone is on the actual outside of the hose and then the hose is coiled so you hear millions of different ones. The idea with this tube is to put a speaker on one side. We're also going to cut it in half, so we're going to make a microphone tap in the middle. 12.5M and then we're going to put a microphone on the other side.

The idea is that you will get two different delay times from the same tube. If we are successful with this, I will have to try to save. and buy more of this and make a longer delay just continue because the plumbing supplies can be easily screwed on and adjusted if we unscrew this and screw the exact same setup on the side well we'll get double the delay and if you continue to do that at that case, we could have a much longer delay, but we also have several intermediate points in the meantime. The first thing we're going to do is divide this pretty much in half, so I'm going to find the middle point. one, oh that's a lot more manageable, we have 12.5M, let's try to get this working first and then we'll connect them both and get 25M again, so to make this nice and tidy, I decided to design some brackets, like this We could put this together.

I jumped into shaping the online CAD program and quickly put together these things that are loosely printed in green and then sprayed because I only had green and they screw together like this. The idea with this is that we're going to be able to acoustically isolate each of the coils from each other enough for this to work like this, so you can see right there. Then I spent a bit of time trying to wind this up. I should have made it about a barrel. uh, but yeah, as you can see, I tried there but I couldn't find a circle that I really liked, so I did it by hand like this, which actually bit me in the ass when I was trying to copy it with the second one. module, but hey, what are you going to do next?

As you can see after a little time and a little adjustment it really started to work and then I put the supports on, this is when the pain started because yeah that things didn't want to line up but after about an hour they really started to come together, you had to squeeze it a little, squeeze it a little more to make it circular. This is a standard plumbing converter and actually fits around this. condenser microphone exactly, so we're going to use that and we're going to use this speaker. I found this u87 clone for the condenser microphone.

It's a controller, so let's connect the condenser microphone. Here we go, so this is 12.5. M, which is about 40 milliseconds, is the math, the exact math here and, yeah, let's plug it in. I could already hear a reverb, but I don't know where it's coming from, so we have the microphone cover. here we're going to screw that into the bottom R, heavy like that one sitting there, then we're going to have the speaker that's going to be on the other side. Beautiful, we have the microphone on channel 16, there is phantom power. that's on, so the mic is there, then the speaker that goes to the tube goes to one of the send outputs, we have a ms10 that's right here, let's turn up the send volume on the ms10 to see the effect . of the pipe, oh, now let's increase some feedback without effect effect effect with feedback right, let's double the delay time by removing the speaker adding a t-junction oh Pop That, take a second and put it on top I know this is nonsense , do you try it? and add more of these supports.

I have no idea how this will turn out, but let's try it. Do we use these clamps? You have to tighten them little by little, it takes a little time, but the more you tighten the more. the cleaner everything starts to look, it's pretty good, I mean this is by no means perfect, but it doesn't look that bad, it doesn't look that bad at all, they're not even close to the same space, so just pretend which looks neat. yeah, pretend it looks good, same as before, we have the speaker at the top, we have the microphone right at the bottom, beautiful jly, but we also have another microphone in the middle.

I have no idea what this is going to be like. work or sound, but let's try it, now we have twice the length of the tube, which in theory is twice the delay line from the speaker to the bottom microphone. However, you will know that I added a microphone in the middle. it's on a T joint, yes it's not ideal, but it's worth experimenting to see if it makes any difference, because if you think about it, it's a closed chamber, so air pressure travels there, so maybe bends and other things may not affect it, let's see.

Anyway, it looks like we're going to introduce the delay we've already heard, that's fine now. What about the longest delay that is quite long for both at the same time? So now we're going to try to experiment with the effect, but in stereo we'll have this one coming out of this side and this one coming out of this side a little bit of feedback on the send a little bit of feedback on the send oh, so what do you think? The Copper Time Cube, let us know. I really want to do a second part but the

copper

is quite expensive as it has a total delay of 80 milliseconds if we get another two of these modules and we have two other sets of microphones that's 160 milliseconds and then you have all the TAPS on the medium and If you get another one that's 240 milliseconds and another one that's 320 milliseconds, that's a big delay when you get to it, but yeah, Cober is expensive, so if you want to help us with this, go check it out on Patreon.

You can also download some sounds of the noises that are made, you can use the samples and all that, but yeah, I'll definitely save a few pennies to try to make it bigger very soon. I'll also be working on some sound insulation because there's a lot of it. from the background noise that comes in through condenser mics personally I can't tell the difference between the mic being that way and that way so technically having it wide open would be fine but yeah until next time Look. without a computer, this is the Copper Time Cube and if you like it, don't forget to subscribe and don't be afraid to try it, maybe don't try it unless you have the key to the back door of a plumbing shop, see you around though. later