CIA Spy on Killing Kennedy’s, China’s Takeover, & Israel-Palestine

Is it part of your jurisdiction to work for the CIA to poke holes in Kennedy? So, first of all, we don't call them jurisdictions, we call them authorities. What a strong denial. I wanted to tell you why I think you're still part of the CIA. I'm not part of the CIA, it's not true, it's not called the CIA, it's just called the CIA. I'm going to make you call it CIA, then I win, then I'll be the super spy, there's a presidential election in November. not a good outcome he said you guys are a bunch of idiots who keep calling me a russian spy suddenly that put into question if the CI even knew what they were doing he chooses not to use the CIA's private intelligence can do things that National Security can do They are not aliens.

UFOs are real or not. UFOs are real, but they are not aliens. We are. Have you ever killed someone? I can't answer that question in great detail. I can't say I've ever intimately killed anyone, which I think is happening. What will happen is that Zalinsky and Netanyahu will obtain asylum in a political sanctuary in the United States. The United States cannot let Selinsky die. Everyone knows that Putin wants to kill him. What do you think is happening in Israel? Palestine. Alex thinks Chinatown is a cell. true, Chinatown is a DI of Chinese immigrants, so the intelligence community places its own agents within that community, but keep in mind that the CIA is my asset, my asset, what happens to everyone and welcome to blatant and Today I am very excited because we are going to expose, yes, that is a good YouTube title, you got it right.

Expo exposes R, we're going to reveal, yes, secrets, secrets, a CIA agent who still works for the CIA, as I say, but we'll get to that in a moment. We've got Andrew Buam all right, thank you so much for coming on, okay, we have to do this thing that you've said on every podcast you've been on, but I just want to lay a foundation to understand what it is that you're using. leather is fake and that was crazy Al I didn't even realize you know something good, special I guess I had to dress pretty nice look how casual his is I know, I'm going to say I'm rocking some tiger strap sweatpants that no I won't get the man Read today brother, okay, uh, we, we have to understand some things here, what's going on that's got me stumped?

Okay, you dress like Janet Jackson, dude, okay, we need to know what the CIA is. I know you've answered this on every podcast, but I think it's important what the CIA is, CIA, uh, the Central Intelligence Agency, yeah, and why do you say CIA, you never go to the CIA, so the CIA is something that is commonly unknown. a misconception of the American public that it is not called the CIA, when talked about as an acronym it is simply called the CIA Central Intelligence Agency, okay CIA is grammatical nonsense, but then it sounds like the CIA itself is a word.

No it's an acronym so if you're trying to act like you're not part of the CIA you call it ciao but if you give some the slip then you know they're a spy and if I am I am. Good friend, I'm kind, if you want to know if someone is part of the Brotherhood, then you call it agency, oh because there is only one different brother, it is called agency, you are part of the agency, although there is only one CIA, so it is the CIA I mean, I'm not going to argue with you if you want to keep calling it the CIA, but I know it was a neat trick that changes levels very quickly when I'm talking to someone and I want to see if they really know what they're talking about, they say the agency is okay, okay, CIA, what's up?

The CIA is the National Security arm of the United States that collects foreign secrets. Okay, so we don't collect national secrets, which means secrets within the country. United States, we are only accused of foreign secrets, the FBI, the Federal Bureau of Investigation collects secrets within the United States. Well, now, is it part of your jurisdiction when you work for the CIA to poke holes in Kennedy? Because that is not felt. International that feels like really national, so you bring up a great point from the G, so first of all, we don't call them jurisdictions, we call them authorities, yeah, yeah, so inside, wow, that's what. strong, this is good, this is good.

It's good, we don't call him Kennedy, we call him Jelly. I have a problem. What you just said. We have, we have authorities and authorities. Define what we can and cannot do. Okay, that's what differentiates us from saying police, police jurisdiction. Can't they do it because it feels like they do? Yes Yes. Central Intelligence can do a lot because the agency is accused of foreign secrets and foreign secrets do not violate the rights of American citizens, so when you hear about, oh, you sell. drugs in the Middle East and you do this and you do that and you handle cocaine like yeah, we'll do whatever it takes if it keeps American Safe, I got it, but you can't do any of that here right now.

There's also a major split that occurred on 911 in 2001. I mean, here, we're in New York, we all know, we all remember that day long before 9/11. You had a very different CIA than you had later, because of 911. Commission, okay, keep in mind that 911 happened because the CIA up there, the CIA and the FBI dropped the ball, you know what we're talking about, right? Why would he know that you are saying yes? Okay, now I'm nervous. I also thought that. I also thought that. He knew it, yes, well, he didn't know it. He wasn't in the CIA, but they had clues that there were people planning an attack on the World Trade Center.

They had information and simply decided not to act on it, whether it was them. I didn't think it was serious or if it was maybe this will help us gain power who knows leave your own theory but that's exactly right yeah that's exactly right and he even said he even said no you can't be 100 % correct. What the hell does it feel like? You would need inside information to be 100% correct. That's the inside information they knew was happening. I know the CIA. He looks like them too. Everything I say is true. True, but all I'm saying is.

Now you've referenced the CIA twice without using the I also did it for you. I appreciate it, man, okay, so the 911 Commission, the 911 Commission on 9/11 that was published in 2003, was written at the behest of Congress and it was in that very public report where all of what you're saying was referenced. Because the FBI and CIA, you read the power, the FBI and CIA separately had all the information they needed to prevent 911 and they didn't share the information with each other, which meant they couldn't put all the pieces together. correct order, but isn't it the CIA's fault?

No, that's a failure of what the 911 Commission identified as no Director General of National Intelligence, but I thought that's what the CIA is. The CIA is technically the Central Intelligence Agency, which means it's the center of intelligence, it was never the center of decision making about where the intelligence goes, so it collects all the intelligence that it collects from the FBI, it collects from the NSA, it collects from all these other different organizations, but not disseminating it to the people who need it and didn't do it before, before 911, didn't prioritize it correctly either, so you're part of the CIA, you're part of the FBI, who cares?

Who do you think of as CIA? has the best information you think you do when he sends you a report that says some shit is going to happen you're like nothing shit is going to happen I have my Intel my Intel is better I want to get into that's something I want to get into, but continue with this, very quickly, continue to clarify this point, so what changes after 911?, after 911, Congress basically comes in and says CIA, the blood is on your hands of the FBI, the blood on your hands, both of you They failed the United States because they continue. to process intelligence like it's the Cold War and you've ignored terrorism, you've ignored the development of authoritarian regimes, you've dropped the ball, so now we're going to step in and force you to evolve by then.

From there, the director of national intelligence was born and an overall authority for the entire intelligence community that now has the jurisdiction or the responsibility to say CIA, you must listen to the FBI, you must prioritize this, you must do that now. of passing information to each other and ignoring it, they have to go to this oversight board and the oversight board dictates what correct actions who is the director of national intelligence who appoints that person, whether they appoint the president and whether the president can appoint one new every new president is right, I don't think so, okay, I don't think we're going to allow a new guy to come into the installation shop every four years, maybe every eight years, and expect that company to run properly, not like that It's how companies work properly.

McDonald's wouldn't work like that Exxon wouldn't work like that you need a lot of time let me have that well that's what I'm trying to say you need a long term vision this is what I expected the CIA to be doing I hoped the president of the United States was a figurehead and You guys actually kept the train on the tracks, so you're thinking of the CIA as a company. The CIA is a federal company. I'm going to have them call it CIA today and then I'll win. I'm the Super Spy CI is a federal government organization, so stop thinking of them as Exxon and think of them more like your local DMV.

When was the last time you went to D? Yeah, that's scary and that's what people need to understand, right? a well-intentioned institution, but it's still a government organization, it's run like the DMV, it's not run like shit because we think they don't even have the best intentions, but incredibly effective nefarious intentions that accumulate power when you say they're kind of just a clumsy government organization look at the government in general right now. I do not do it. I don't subscribe to this. I'm so glad you don't subscribe to this. I don't think so because could you imagine the chaos if Americans were actually like what do you mean the CIA is like presidential elections if if people really understood I don't think it would cause more chaos. stop terrorism and I don't think they really care, you know you're deep, you're entrenched, so I think you inflate its importance to the average American.

I think we think it's important and then we check it no but we need to feel safe we ​​need to feel safe if we feel yes I'm not saying it doesn't make us feel safe what I'm saying is we don't think about it no it's never the average of Americans who spend 20 seconds. from his years thinking about the CIA outside of a TV show, a very powerful tool for any politician to be like, you know you guys aren't safe, okay, the CIA, the CIA, whatever, they're actually idiots. clumsy I can go fix that. I have no idea how bad things are.

I've been there. That's great. Do you really think they are clumsy idiots? I mean, you work, no, no, I don't think they're bumbling idiots. I think they are well-intentioned people. government organization I think the challenge that the CIA has is that it has many very intelligent, very hard-working, very dedicated heroes, who work as worker bees and then there are political appointees and professional careers, looking for guides, govies who become high-ranking managers. level. so when you're in government you only have one path to promotion and that is to become even more entrenched in government, when you're in business, when you're like a corporate executive, you actually want to expand and challenge a status quo because you could work for Shell this year, but next year you could be hired by xon and then next year you could be hired by Amazon and then next year you could be hired by Google, so you want to constantly expand and challenge the status quo, while in government you have a way of ascending, entrenching yourself deeper and deeper into the status quo, so the bureaucracy inevitably just takes over and obstructs it, so that's what ends up happening and those are the people who are in charge and then you have this whole workforce at the bottom that has to decide what my career path is going to be, whether I consolidate to try to climb or bail out and what you've seen since Trump's election in 2016 is a mass exodus of people in the intelligence community because Trump challenged the intelligence community just like you said well and once he challenged it and said you guys are a bunch of idiots, you keep calling me a Russian spy, suddenly that put into question if the CIA even knew what What were they doing, well, I want to talk about the Trump thing.

Trump intervenes and chooses not to use the CIA for his intelligence, right? He openly says it's right and then who does he use? He markets, he hires commercial intelligence, for example. Do you know James Baker? Yes, James, he used to work for the CIA, yes, like you used to work and now he has his own private intelligence company. So would Trump. I love James by the way, great guy, we called him for Netflix. program 100% still works for the CIA 1000% I love you, he is so talented that he can host a comedy show, he will be on Fox News hosting a show, but he 100% works with the CIA andthat's the best position I think you do too, but we'll get to that in a second.

Now he would hire him and then get his intelligence from him and his company, so the reason that works is the idea of ​​commercialized intelligence or private intelligence is what it's called inside. Private intelligence is a successful business model because Private intelligence can do things that Homeland Security governance cannot do, for example, in the War on Drugs, it is very difficult for you to get funds from Congress to fight the war on drugs by doing things in such a way. inefficient like the federal government. the government makes them, you have to send troops, you have to get orders approved, like there's a huge cost that comes with all the administrative stuff to get the government to do something in the commercial sector, you basically write them a check for $2 million and you say "hello." We need secrets about cocaine drug dealers and then the company does whatever it takes to get those secrets, so maybe they hire five ex-Seals, two ex-Colombian Special Forces, two ex-crazies and they come in and maybe do good things, maybe maybe they do bad things. things, but they definitely hand over secrets, and that's where private intelligence becomes powerful and Donald Trump is the efficiency of privatization.

Donald Trump knew that and he took advantage of that and as a result of that he essentially proved in four years that the CIA was super. powerful but it can be replaced by private intelligence wow wow okay so I think it was in the lexa module that you were talking a little bit about this and then he also limited something, he limited the security clearance for people who would leave the CIA, this is important, this is important because this is one of the things trump did very well that he never got credit for, mhm, the way you make money when you're a federal government employee is not by being a federal government employee for 30 years and you are a high official. high-ranking officer and you're making $160,000 a year, yeah, no, that's not what people want to do with their lives, right, a junior salesperson can make 250, so what ends up happening is you work those 30 years to being able to build a network and so on. you can have very high level clearances and those clearances don't expire the day you resign, they expire over time, so when you have a top secret clearance or a secret clearance, what causes it to expire is that you break it as they withdraw it . you either do not participate in an activity, you do not participate in a job where you have where you use that access, as long as you continue to use that access, it is still valid, the job is for the government or it can be any job. a job for the government because the government is what defines the classification, so now you are a senior intelligence officer making $160,000 a year and you retire from the government.

Well, now you have all the contacts from all the other offices within the agency, contacts with the FBI, the NSA Di. NGA, right, you're connected to everyone, so boo Allen Hamilton, Khaki, Manch or any of the big Homeland Security intelligence contractors who can hire you, make you executive vice president, pay you $400,000 a year and are basically paying for your clearance and what they're paying for is their access to all these other agencies because of their network, so Trump shut that down because it was there, it was like a brain drain, so to speak, people were leaving the agency to go. to work in the private sector. and he went to earn money and he said, "You're not going to leave the agency and take your clearance so you can stay here or leave, but you're not going to accept that and there was a second, there was a second reason." to do it, the other reason he was doing it was because he wanted to limit competition from private intelligence companies outside of the companies he was using oh, so he was doing it to scratch his back oh, sure, so he was doing it to scratching their backs and oh my gosh this is next level good reason to finally one thing okay so he's scratching the backs of his friends his friends supposedly let's say they have these intelligence companies what would you call them firms , yes, private intelligence firms, private intelligence firms and He is that they already have these employees that have clearance, yes, and he and there are also employees that do not have proper clearance, but at the end of the day, it's all about.

I know this could destroy your trust in the federal government. It's still a The good old boys network is still who you know, who you trust and who will be with you when people turn against you, that's largely how the government works and that's only because the government finds it difficult to evolve, it's not like commerce. sector that can evolve very quickly, you have to say that there was a mass exodus when Trump took office, is it the older people who are like rules?, is it the younger ones, is it the younger generation and why did they leave, the younger generation was leaving because They are wondering about the future, wow, and my future is in the private sector.

I'm out of this in 30 years. I won't be able to take my authorization with me. I won't make any money for 30 years and then you won't even have the globe when I retire from private security and what is your career like serving a federal government that can't tell its ass from its elbows, yeah right, and don't forget that too from 2016. until 2020 during the Trump administration, you did not trust the CIA, so when you do not trust the CIA for a good reason for mixed reasons, some were good, some were bad, but keep in mind that the CIA falls under the executive power of what you say. what he did he did it well he is my asset now this is my asset now let's continue that's it it's like a Pokémon that's it brother slowly you take them to what's on board what's it there you go yeah, yeah, I'm tired , I got tired, that's it, that's it, but keep in mind that the CIA, the CIA, right, the CIA falls under the executive branch, there are three branches of government, right, the executive branch, the boss is the executive, the president, so when the CIA when the CIA listens to the boss, the boss doesn't fund them M, so when the boss says I don't need you, I'm going to cut your funding now all of a sudden your operations are cut off, all the Those who work there cannot. getting those sexy ops they need to get their promotions now is that system, wow this sucks, built 20 years from now every government agency will be because we're not getting any of the best young talent, but think of something real quick . fast, then the system is set up to not generate the best data and intelligence that is designed to satisfy the boss and satisfying the boss may not keep America in the safest place because sometimes what the boss wants to be true is not so if there's an imminent threat and The boss doesn't care, but the CIA or the CIA says this is what it is and you need to listen and you need to fund this.

This is a big problem now the CIA rises up when you lose the trust of the boss so this is a huge problem this is a huge problem this is why you hear so many people every election cycle you hear you will hear people talk on intelligence reform this is what they're talking about question though sorry can you did you just finish that? that idea through intelligence reform and what that means, so intelligence reform is the idea that we need to reform the way we do intelligence, from our promotion process to our exchange process to our analytical process, because what the American people say.

We trust in being a vehicle that works efficiently, in fact inside we call it Sandbox because when you put children in a Sandbox the most important thing is that they play well with each other, it is more important than being creative, it is more important that they do whatever something else and if you guys don't get along, then we call 911, here it is, that's right, and the whole getting along thing becomes a cultural challenge because now, if you're an ambitious 27 year old and you don't understand along with the old guard, then they're going to start holding you back and then you'll never develop until you just hit and that's good for them because they want more of the Old Guard very quickly in this, in this reform, how would you reform?

This and this could be a longer question, but how do you create a system that presents the most effective data and intelligence while not alienating the head of the organization, which is the president? Yes, yes, yes, so there has to be There are already checks and balances, that's how the federal government works, that's how our democracy works with checks and balances, being able to institute checks and balances where let's say you're a junior officer, you do a recommendation and your superior officer does not accept your recommendation, but there is some kind of documented process that you did what you said what you said at that time, no matter how the intelligence develops in the future, it can actually be audited according to what the junior officer said and then you end up having this What I'm evaluating is that you have an incentive for the junior officers to say this and you have an incentive for the senior officers to listen to them because it's documented, but what's happening now is literally , that senior officers change the reports of junior officers, wow, so I will write a report and send it to my middle manager. my middle manager will rewrite my report with what he thinks is important in addition to what I did before I got to you and what the justification is for that because there must be one because the idea is that the more touchpoints, the more it will be refined by people who have more experience, so they think it's refined, but it's actually a game of telephone and what happens with the game of telephone is the changes the moment it arrives and there's no responsibility up there and then you remember that there was a divide in the culture, so once you like a high level officer, they were raised in the school of the Cold War, so now we're talking about terrorist reports, they move on to a middle manager who has a bit The experience of terrorism has a little experience in the Cold War, but it ends up in the hands of a senior manager who is really just C 199 2000.

When you receive this information, we don't think that terrorism is a real threat that is there, you can say it? us, what War C, very quickly, simply Cold War, what does that difference between War C intelligence and terrorism mean? When you remember the Soviet Union and you remember that it was the United States against Russia, of course, that's cold war, no, no, I understand the period, but why? There would be a different way to interpret intelligence for the Cold War versus terrorism because people didn't die in the Cold War in the Cold War it was cold, there was no conflict, so there's no imminent threat, so you're learning. about hm, I've got it, I've got it, I've got it, I've got it, I've got it, it's an imminent threat those are the two words with terrorism where we immediately react or 911 we're reacting immediately the bomb explodes while Cold War these are nations competing for a position through I guess you would say economic and military growth, that's it, yeah, yeah, it's economic growth, I guess, and military growth too, so you can be a little more relaxed during a cold war because you're not protecting to your people, in that case we call it strategic, no. relaxed, you can be more strategic because things don't happen at a tactical pace, it's a little more chess, it's more chess, yes, I got that right, sorry, get to my general question, where are we?

What I'm hearing is that I'm very afraid of privatizing intelligence. It's probably going to be a better solution overall and this ties back to what we had with V Ras Swami on the podcast and he basically said, I just want to eliminate a bunch of government jobs. People who I think are small governments and who might distrust me. It's just that the government has no incentive to be efficient there is no profit margin while in a private organization we always have to be efficient we always have to be the best our business is literally in danger we will go bankrupt right I don't see a real problem and you can Tell me where I'm wrong.

I don't see a real problem with privatizing intelligence because it will probably be executed more efficiently. The real problem with the privatization of intelligence is that you open intelligence to marketing, yes, marketing. meatless promises, yes, so really what needs to happen are checks and balances, as we said before, where there is a government responsible for intelligence, but the best performing bidder is the private intelligence company. Think of it like a plumber, the reason I don't do the plumbing in your house, I guess is because you can send a request to five different plumbers, you can get five different estimates, you can ask them to come and do five different evaluations, and the one you trust the most is the one you try and if he accepts you will never hire him again, yeah that's essentially how it should work because you're the boss it's your house so we need an organizationintelligence that is controlled at the federal level to say that the quality of the intelligence must meet this standard.

Think that if we privatize it is more about marketing than quality. If you privatize 100%, yeah, look at the news like if you privatize the news, you're not going to get the real news, you're going to get the most monetizable news and the exact same thing would happen with an intelligence they're like what does the president want to hear okay let's go to look for it, it's weapons of mass destruction like, oh, let's find the weapons of mass destruction, it's like there are certain news organizations that say, hey, there's some racism out there, find I don't want to harp on this too much, but again, that's exactly what the government did.

The government said there are weapons of mass destruction. There were no weapons of mass destruction. I just don't think this is as scary as we're doing right now. I want to go into it now I want to go into that point which is how to say it or maybe the best question is if it is possible because this is what you always hear, that there are corporations that are using the CIA almost as if it were a private army for their interests. Is there any truth in that? I wouldn't say that, then the fact that private agencies are using CIA resources. as a private army, there is no direct evidence that that is what is happening.

Hey, I have a banana factory in Nicaragua, I'm going to start a coup d'état because the current administration won't let me sell my bananas, so that's not the corporation that makes that decision, but that's the lobbyists that can apply pressure about the policymakers who are appointed or voted in at the federal level are the ones who then get to run the CIA and they're putting pressure on who, they're putting pressure on the director who was appointed by the president or they're putting pressure on the president and the congressman and then, Oh my gosh, the president and the president's advisory panel because here's another thing to consider, president, so the CIA is getting all of this and they're just doing what they're told, so it's really the politicians that should be getting the right I thought the CIA was acting on its own, well, they did in certain circumstances before 911, before 911, they had a lot more autonomy than now because the 9911 commission came out and said you have too much autonomy, so Going back to your point about whether they shot JFK, they don't really know, no one really knows because they had so much autonomy, man, tell me, did they or what if I knew I'd be a lot richer than I am now?

Why what? What would you do with that information to make that much money? He would find a way to prove it and be the first person to expose the truth with proof. What about Abraham Lincoln? Is it another president who shot you? I have something with this, only a couple of them were shot. I imagine it was the CIA in 1864, OSS friend, you know, okay, but no, no, no, I'm not curious why they shot him. I want to know if he was gay you would know those things if you had the intelligence it was a blink and gay I don't know C CIA didn't exist OSS didn't exist back then I don't even know if the federal marshal The CIA doesn't have gayar, yes we need to that guy, they have gayar because they're recruiting gay gays right now, what does that mean? they want to diversify into lgbtq plus all the diverse ones who want that kind of diversity because the government is trying to bring back the youth and because they lost all their youth people come in yes the youth are G but now Isn't there an advantage to having some gay agents in the Middle East exactly, yes, no, really, they can see if they can fly, it turns out we can't fly, it's a good experiment, yes, no, no, but Maybe you could use them, since I know you say that at the CIA you don't use the Honeypot, but that would be advantageous. go to the Middle East and you're like, hey, like I'm half gay and if there's any Shea out there who's a little bit gay, he might feel a little safer rinsing his cheeks with a you know. guy who's not from there and he's not going to tell anyone so here he is now he's an asset this is the interesting thing this is the interesting thing that people don't understand about the CIA, yeah the CIA has always been one of the most diverse workforces in the United States.

You're getting information from out there, you said that helped you get hired. I'm a brown guy, yeah you could be, you're actually good. I'm, I'm, I'm ambiguously brown, so no one knows where I'm from. I mean, I didn't have good grades in college. I was a bad officer in the Air Force like I wasn't your pre-911 Ivy League white guy. You know the CIA and that's just me. I mean, there are thousands. of people who were recruited with me Diverse in every way possible, the thing is, it wasn't CIA recruitment marketing that had to be diverse, so what ended up happening was that they would find people the same way they would find the people who would lead. they would run you through a psychological profile as part of your Recruitment and then they would find out like oh you're gay or you're straight or you're this or that or whatever else you believe in two gods or whatever but they would run you through a profile and the profile would tell them that you are crazy in a SP in a specific way that is very useful for gathering intelligence like, for example, uh, so, you, the reason I'm here today is because you were referencing something that I mentioned once about the psychological trauma of high performance, people who have a certain amount of trauma when their children become high performance players later in life, what that really means is that we are a little crazy, but we are crazy in a useful way versus a person who has so much trauma that he ends up being like PTSD great at sex or whatever well, even that's still useful crazy, that is, but I'm talking about the kind of crazy that ends with someone shooting at people, like someone who walks in and starts shooting in a grocery store, someone who ends up being too crazy, so they're trying to find the right amount of crazy, okay, and when you and that's helpful , so it used to be that they could bring in people who seemed normal, who seemed mixed and then find the ones who were helpful, crazy, now they're basically advertising like, hey, we want you if who's gay, yeah, it's you, they're like, hey , if you.

If you're gay, you've had enough trauma in your life to be crazy enough to be in the CIA. I mean, maybe that's part of their strategy, but if you look at them, they're openly advertising to diverse groups, I guess. that's the world is more openly, you feel more comfortable being openly gay, openly whatever, so that person fits better with those groups, whereas before, in the '50s, maybe being gay was something that they probably you were hiding in the '90s, man, we do HIIT of that stuff. but also don't forget that it is a federal organization, so guess what federal organizations they have to demand diversity.

So you have to have as many women, you have to have as many gay people, you have to have as many people who identify as women, but they actually have male sexual organs and you have to like that there are all these government regulations, especially in a democratically controlled executive right, that every time they dictate requirements to the CIA, you think it's something good or bad for the CIA, what do you think? I think it's a horrible thing for the CIA. I mean, let's let the CIA hire what they need to hire to run the operations they need to run for the threat of the day, because the threat of the day changes.

M, okay, I want to go back to it in a second, but you met your wife at work, how hard is it to sleep with a CIA agent? I mean, are you talking about how to sleep with the CIA agent or when we say sleep with the c? No, I mean, like she sees everything. your tricks she's trained exactly the same way that makes it really easy which makes it super easy because the hardest thing to do is lie and hide so think about how much effort we all put into that in my marriage that effort is gone, there's no reason to even try and even worse than that is that my wife can read my body language to know when you're lying to know when I'm uncomfortable she knows when I'm sad she knows when I'm stressed like she actually knows because she really she can read it, so it makes the fact that I'm like an open book to her super super easy and the fact that she's like an open book to me, no, it's not that C marriages tend to last longer, um , last until the Work begins to interfere with the marriage.

The CIA has one of the highest divorce rates in the entire federal government because when a CIA officer, uh, when they get married, they get to that point in their career where it's like you're going to choose career or marriage and That's usually for those people they choose a career and then if you're a CIA officer who marries a non-CIA officer you still get to a point in your career where it's like why are you working all time? I can't really tell you and then you break up, oh. you could share what you were doing with each other or it was your limitations, so my wife and I had the benefit of meeting and getting married when we were in different offices, but then there was a change in operational priorities that actually put us in a tand coule so we operate together wait a minute you were partners at work so you were pretending to be married and married we didn't even have to pretend we were actually married but you were using pseudonyms I guess we were using a structure of the cover Legend yes, that was stronger because we had real documentation behind it M who is the easiest breed to fool why did you look for it?

He drops his bombs quietly what you say what you say Mr. Mrs. Smith who is who is the easiest race is the trick so yeah if you're talking about ethnic race yeah then ethnic race is really difficult because it is based on education, ah, but when it comes to race as a nationalistic subcontext like Americans, we are the easiest to understand. Tri we are the most ignorant culture in the world that's the number one fire we are always number one no one can top us and that's a big part of the reason we are the best we are the best announcing the Edmonton tour , Canada, July 12, Shane.

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Akash sing.com or just go to YouTube. I love you all, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you and are you learning this when you're at work? Do you like it? Do they teach you these things? Is this behavior human? patterns that are like in a notebook that you're learning, like how do you get this kind of wisdom, so the CIA trains through a method called Just in Time learning, also known as experiential training or experiential learning, so they will teach you a concept, uh, academically. you learn a conceptual slideshow or in the classroom or whatever and then you go out and practice that concept on a stage with an actor with a role player, oh okay, you're not just going to go to a cafe. buy and do it and then once you've shown that you understand the concept in a role play, you'll be out in the real world doing it and that's how you solidify a skill before you go back, how much are these actors with you on these things? complicated, are they doing things, do they even know, oh yeah, the actors are blind, they're not, they're not actors like you're thinking of actors, they're role players, which means they're CIA officers that they have alreadygeopolitical changed, we had everything approved, worked on and written up until that turning point in Homeland Security, so it was approval, it was fine, no, I wasn't trying to bother you, no, no, it's all fine, but that's how it works.

I mean, the reason there are so few CIA authors is because of the exact problem you said, how? you get an editor to look at something if the CIA has to look at it first and what happens if the CIA looks at it and they take too long or whatever. Editors lose interest and editors lose interest and whatever else, whereas for us we take a different approach. approach that we take as a systematic approach where it's like, hey, this is what we want to write about it, do you approve, here's our summary of what we're going to write, do you approve, here's our summary for each chapter, You approve it and they approved it every step of the way until we got to a point where there was a book proposal that they had previously approved in every previous version of PR, but the change in Homeland Security priorities changed the entire sequence.

How do you feel about whistleblowers? I have a very difficult time accepting whistleblowers why because I think whistleblowers saying names is fine, so ask, ask what you really want. I would just, we're really talking about snow. is a true infringement on American freedoms and every other option has not worked, then a whistleblower, that is what a whistleblower should be, that is why the law protects whistleblowers when they can demonstrate that they have tried all other official channels that they do not they can. they go to jail, they are protected by law, what happens is people are too afraid or too lazy to turn to any other channel, so they go straight to the press, that is the wrong kind of whistleblowing , because reporting results in more harm than good, right?

Snowden is one of those examples that he didn't try every possible avenue internally before going to the press, so the law can no longer protect him, yes, and then immediately ran to our enemies, which further demonstrates: what is what you really want here? right brother and we have seen the same thing with UFOs and you see the same thing with Homeland Security, you see the same thing in police departments and educational departments like every time someone blows the whistle the law is there to protect them and show that They've gone through every formal option available before they have to just go public and that's basically what you're trying to do with the book, right?

It's like I'm going to get permits, if you don't give me permits, then we can take it to a court system if the court of law says no. So you don't publish that book correctly and that's the right thing to do. and you will respect it and that is the only way to show that you believe in the system that you are a part of is to exercise all the options in that system and I think that as long as we are a strong and healthy democracy and Rich we are not the perfect democracy, but we are much better that most of the democracies that exist and that any of the autocracies that exist, so if we execute according to the system and the system considers it at the end of The day that we cannot publish, you have to trust the system to a certain extent , why do you want to leave the United States?

I heard you said you wanted to live somewhere else, so there are two reasons: the first, and they are internally connected, right? The first reason is that I think the United States is in it. I think we are going through our high school phase. Remember high school, yes, remember how miserable high school was. That's where we are as a country right now. People forget that we are under us. You are less than 300 years old. We're young, honey, we're young, so that phase where you're used to wearing sweatpants but then you start getting erections and you have to carry your math book in front of your pants to make sure. no one sees your boner, but you don't want to stop wearing sweatpants just yet and you're pretty sure you're not going to start wearing neat clothes yet, that's where we are as a country and that's it, it's ugly and it's up, but for how much time?

High school lasted a long time and did not improve in high school. We are going through a very uncomfortable phase as a country and it will be long and slow and it will be painful for you in your estimation what is 10 long years is not that yes what is the pain that we will endure economic pain um the loss of public influence of international influence um We are going to start to discover that We are friends with the wrong people, like us, you are seeing that happening now in Israel, Palestine, you are seeing that happening in Ukraine, Russia, like you are seeing it in NATO four years ago.

If you were to ask someone, let's say NATO is strong, the United States has all the right allies, right, the United States is the best, well now that you have NATO it is fracturing, European countries are coming out and saying that the United States It shouldn't be part of NATO and that those are our closest allies, right? France Spain Germany is coming out and saying we shouldn't listen to America anymore, why do we listen to them well? You can't get financing for Ukraine right now. You have the president and the vice president. and the head of Homeland Security inviting Israel's opposition leader to come to the United States because they can't talk to Netanyahu, right?

And that is Israel. I mean, Israel is one of our closest allies in the world and right now Biden and Netanyahu are at odds. You see this developing and this happened in the last six months or two years, so when you start to project that forward, there's a presidential election in November, there's no good outcome of that election, yeah, what do you think will happen in that? election nothing good but give me an example how you say that to say that you don't like any of the candidates or all of them I'm saying that to say that no one likes any of the candidates there is no one out there who is like Trump is the right choice and there is no one out there who says Biden is the right choice.

There are many people who say that Trump is the best option. There aren't many people who say Trump is the right choice. I mean, yeah, there are a lot of people who think Trump is the right choice. You may not respect his politics, but I hear what you're saying, yeah, yeah, you're talking about people with geopolitical experience and they might say, "Hey, this guy isn't right for the job, but he has a lot of fans who are." I'm just incredibly excited about it, yes, yes, I think we're going to see a Biden Administration or a Trump Administration or some kind of Emergency Administration that happens because of something completely unforeseen on both sides, like for example when Biden is elected and then he has a heart attack and then there is an emergency administration or Trump is elected and then some criminal conviction comes up, that's what makes his ability to serve as president limited, there are also 82, so anything can happen kind of surprises. so you have to leave room for surprises, but in all three scenarios it doesn't make it easy for the average American and how our quality of life is affected and why would you want to leave that.

I want to leave BEC. I want to leave in the next four years or in about four years because it is not my quality of life that worries me, it is the opportunity for my children and what comes next in our country in one way or another, the generation that is going to pay the sorrow. They're our kids, they're not us, but I'm sorry, this is where I'm stuck. I thought you said it would be about 10 years. The awkward phase. What do you think is coming after 10 years? Not good? After 10 years, it will be resolved. Deciding to be good may turn out to be not good, but a new normal will emerge and then we can re-evaluate whether I want to come back and play that new normal here or play that new normal.

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It will go through the proper procedure and maybe we will give you permission, and if we don't. I know what, maybe we'll chain him up for a few years just to see if we can piss him off just to see how loyal he is and then when he proves his loyalty, okay, maybe we'll publish the book, but we have someone. in this YouTube space, the YouTube space is huge, this is where the information exists, this is where the intelligence exists and he will go to all the major podcasts and do what he does best, which is make friends and assets from all these different. people and imagine all the intelligence you can get from that, we will let you have your Consultation business where you can go and make millions of dollars, you deserve to do it, we can't restrict you because then you would leave completely, but if we need to call you for anything if we need to call him for information, he will be there to help us.

Tell me why I'm wrong, because the CIA would get all of that without me being on the payroll. So, like this, they are receiving it. They ask for it but they don't ask for it, so I'm not part of C until when, but that's until when you go back to thinking of the CIA as if it were a corporation. The corporation would take those steps because it is worth it. investment yes the CIA is the DMV the DMV wouldn't take those steps right now the CIA is a bureaucracy they are very confused about what to do with me yes what do they think of you right now?

Have you talked with them? Yes, it's a mixed bag, it's a split decision, can you give me what both sides say? So there is a camp, which is the oldest school camp, that believes that anything we do that takes advantage of our service and our time at the CIA using the term. The CIA is just us bringing up our background to try to make money, so that's the negative side, but then there's another side where someone needs to say good things about the CIA because everyone else who comes out and talks about The CIA say shitty things. about the CIA, so we have one foot and both, there's a PR war going on here and I don't necessarily think you're doing the CIA a disservice, like if you watch Homeland, which I guess the CIA is. does it sign on some level or is it because it's not written or written by a CIA officer yeah, no need for the CIA to cut it oh well that's exciting you know I'm not saying how accurate it is no.

It may not be accurate, but I still like that you came and talked about this properly. I imagine there are young, talented people who would hear this or see this and then say, wow! I wonder if my skill set would lend itself to the CIA and that could be an exciting thing to do. I don't necessarily see you as someone who is painting the CIA as a horrible organization. It doesn't even seem like you don't like them. It sounds like you think there is a lack of efficiency and that could be restructured, but when it comes to an organization, I think you feel that it is absolutely important, so everything you are saying is correct and everything you are saying is the job. that I put in my public message about CIA because I personally, as an American, as a father, and as a former CIA officer, want the next generation of talented, hard-working, high-performing people to join the agency, whether they join through two years, six years or 10 years, we all benefit from them.

Join the agency instead of joining the sales department, you know, but here's a problem, even though you're a smart guy, you've found a way to, I imagine, make 10 x 20 times what you made at the CIA almost immediately. after you leave. people with the level of intelligence to work at the CIA and I suppose there needs to be some IQ requirement. You could have all these things where you don't feel guilty, but if you're stupid, it's not going to work. Right, you need to have an aptitude, you need to be able to learn these things, you need to learn them quickly and you need to put them into practice.

Someone with that level of intellect and that lack of, do we call it empathy? or the lack of guilt, which is a great advantage in the normal workplace. If you would move up quickly and make a lot more money, then how do we incentivize these people? How do we incentivize smart people in the same way we can't become smart? People will no longer be politicians, how do we get them to be in government agencies? Well, that's the question you guys are going to be hedge fund guys like people in your position, that's the million dollar question, that's why you see, that's why See, there's a military recruiting crisis if you weren't aware that the Army has not reached record recruiting numbers in two years.

The federal government can't recruit people fast enough. There is a directory of candidates interested in supporting the federal government because they see the federal government and put themselves in the shoes of a 14-year-old boy, yes, in 2009 or 2005, that 14-year-old boy who is now whatever age he is. 18 uh 21 23, right, that kid then has We saw total chaos in the government and now they're deciding if I want to work for Google or I want to work for the federal government. It's an easy answer. There are also questions about whether there has been a war that we believe has been justified and that we want to support.

So if you're a little kid that sees that and that's the ideology, you know what I mean, that's the ideology you have, I mean getting people to join the military like World War II was one of the easiest ones. things to do you say: I want to go defend my nation, even after 9/11. There are people who say: I want to go listen. Let's get this back. Nobody can beat the United States. I don't know why we are here. So I guess it's up to us. The United States and future powers will make sure that any war we are participating in is enough to sacrifice our lives and if there is a decrease in military support, that is up to you, right, you know what I mean, right, yeah, It doesn't depend on people to understand it.

What is happening if you look at the veterans now? It's shocking how many veterans there are right now that don't want their kids to join the military when I used to be a uh I didn't use to be like that. It makes sense, it's completely logical, but the only veterans I know are like I've never done it, but that wasn't the case. My grandfather was a captain, a big part of the reason I was in the military, my uncle was in the military, my mother was in the military. military My stepfather was in the army my aunt was in the army it is what is done because it was very easy to recruit, that made them lazy when it came to providing services to veterinarians and now they are in the opposite situation.

I think yes and no. I think it was easy for them to recruit, so they didn't pay attention to what you do at the end of that person's career. So yeah, I think there's validity to that, but I think the most important thing that happened there is that The Information Age also took over 20 years in the military between 1990 and 2010, it's a massive 20-year transformation in the technology, then we all wake up to the fact that the reason there is a Veterans Affairs, there is a reason you get life. The medical benefits are because when you serve in the US military, they don't care about your health, your well-being, and your mental health, like you're there to be a cog in a war and some cogs in the war .

Wheels die and become medals, but many more cogs in war, they get traumatized, they get hurt, and then they need medical care for the rest of their lives and they don't have proper medical, psychological, and care, which starts to take away a lot of their lives. bonuses or incentives like education and housing and things like that were easier to get and now it's like they're eliminating some of that and that's because of the cost structure right now, with a hiring crisis, it's hard for The federal government finances contracting operations and then begins budgeting. to reduce where they save, where they find money to get more recruits, they take away benefits and then we have more people who stay for four, five or eight years and fewer people who stay for 20 years, so the entire economy of the military and the government starts to change can you explain scary things to us what the military industrial complex is and how the CIA plays a role in it?

So the short, blunt answer is that the military industrial complex is our economic security blanket covering us. That's the reason America loves war is because war ends recessions and the reason war ends recessions is because the military-industrial complex creates tens of thousands of jobs, government spending is created. massive, people are made to make a lot more money, more taxes and then all that military industrial production, all the production is not just for us, it can be sold to the United Kingdom, it can be sold to France, it can be sold to Germany, you can sell to Israel you can sell to the money that comes in, yes, and there is money that comes in and the people that are when foreign countries buy American products, what denomination do they use, what currency do they use American, so how do they get the US dollars they have to buy? them American dollars and then when you buy American dollars, you take them off the market, which affects the value of your currency, it's a network, it's like a triple threat, it's like Justin Timberlake's man.

I mean, this is very well said, so that's why the military industrial complex was designed and it's a big part of the reason why Eisenhower warned against it, yes, in his speech when he left office, yes, he said that a Once we create this Beast, you will never be able to put this in a box again, it always will be. there and has contributed to our wealth over time, is what China is trying to do right now, what China is trying to replicate is its own military industrial complex, because it has watched us for economic and international gains for the last 30 years.

War has not been needed for years to be used properly, conflict is needed. Exactly, as I understand it, China's foreign policy was not based on conflict, but rather on investments and infrastructure that work. Silk Road Initiative, what is the name of Belon Road? belon Road okay so China from 1990 to about or sorry from 1980 to about 2000 uh 10 China mainly focused on the Belt and Road initiative in economic diplomacy and that's why you saw what they call the Miracle of China, where China started from. I mean, speaking of per capita, yes, yes, China went from $537 annual income per capita to $5,000, yes, think about that, yes, I mean a hungry population and cities popping up everywhere, amazing, yes, so a 10-fold change in the average income of a household and the average person. income in just 30 years and we are talking about 1.4 billion people, we are not talking about a country of a million people where you can get that Chang, okay, so you are saying that they were participating in that, let's be the ones in the world. producer let's be the warehouse of the world and the workforce of the world for a long time and well when xinping took power he started to say well what are we going to do for the next 50 years that's why he came up with a 50 year plan and when he started looking 50 years later and you started to realize that if you're the world's manufacturer, then you're always making someone else's products, yeah, and then looking at the United States, we used to be the world's manufacturer and then we exported that and took on jobs technological and we assume innovation and we assume innovation and that is what we now export to the world.

Yeah, now if someone wants to import an American good like yeah, sometimes they can get rice and strawberries, but most of the time. they are importing Financial structures they are importing technology, very big things, it has intellectual property behind it, not real tangible plastic products, yes, interesting, yes, in the military industrial competition, very fast. I just want you to explain to me, so you're saying that now China is going to transition to military industrial complex, uh, which would mean that they would need a conflict, you have to use the bombs correctly, so over the last five years what we have seen is a really aggressive push for China to change its economic base and stop being the world's manufacturer. and to be the world's technological alternative to the United States, Huawei got once the competition exists, you can't put that back in a box, so what's different is that in the United States we like to win like in a good game of football, we like to win wherever like you.

We know that in the second quarter or the last half of the game we are 15 points behind and then we win by one, the main Super Bowl of this year, that's what we want, we want a great finish, a great dominance and everyone talks about this for decades. What China wants is that China wants to win like football, like small incremental gains until the United States exists, which is the world economic superpower, once we are on par with another country, which is equality with anothercountry, guess what happens to us, our security state is completely transformed, why? that's because we are no longer the dominant power because there is another alternative that you can go to if there is a restaurant in the neighborhood that is the only one that serves food they can charge whatever they want second there is another restaurant in that neighborhood suddenly the prices have to get off we're about to stop watching chinese movies yeah sure we already do that okay okay this is really interesting but you still haven't explained what's going on with their military-industrial complex how will they get involved in these ?

Suppose what is happening with us right now is that instead of getting involved in the hot war and yes it happens, there are many proxy wars that we are financing with weapons and the United States. I don't know if you are aware. Of this, the United States has 20 different special operations groups, well that's a lot, what's the deal with the Rangers seals, those are special operations that our closest allies with very few exceptions like France, Germany, Spain and the United Kingdom have like four? we have 20, the next largest country or the next country with the most is Israel.

Israel has 18 different Special Operations groups. Oh wow, the reason you have these Special Operations groups is so you can have a constant rotation of active training in real world conflicts. So we have people in Somalia and people in Mogadishu and people in Colombia and people in Peru and we have people constantly fighting in support of joint forces in support of Allied Forces and peacekeeping missions. These are people who get real-time experience with real weapons by shooting at a distance. and shoot people for real without it being a war that's why we like proxy war uh we keep them warm we keep them warm by training constantly training constantly China never had that I mean, it's crazy to call it training, it's a real war Yes, but we see it. for its training value and then you rotate people through that Jesus Christ now, when you look at what happened last year, very quickly, very quickly, knowing that we need training, do we induce some of these conflicts so that we can have it or is it ?

Or do we search for them and then apply the Force? It's more of the latter than the former, we look for them, but once you have the bigger kid in the yard on your side, you have a lot more confidence pushing. at the conference you're saying that the other countries know that the United States is going to come in and we're not really mad about it CU, we need some training to get them started just our presence will inadvertently cause more war, right, it's yeah, it's like uh The way you would talk if you had a bodyguard, yeah, it has exactly a very different energy than when you're with yourself, okay, go on, so now, if you understand that China has been investing more in its military industrial complex, then, uh. has been outpacing its investment in the military industrial complex than its own GDP growth for the last 5 years and is already projecting to do so again next year, that means that in economic terms it should only invest about 4%, but it is only It is investing 9%, so it is excessive spending on military development.

Combine that with the fact that in recent months, Taiwan just sent out a warning today saying that they are concerned that China has normalized, meaning it is so common that they have normalized military excise taxes around Taiwan, including Taiwan and the Taiwan's rural naval space, so the reason why, like China, it is normalizing that type of military activity because the first stage towards military--industrial domination, the first stage is being able to protect the Homeland is That's why the Civil War was so critical. I know people think the Civil War was about slavery, it wasn't, the Civil War was about being able to create a country where from coast to coast we were under legal jurisdiction. a country because it is easier to defend a country when it is a country with two maritime borders, as soon as it is two countries with two maritime borders and land borders, look at Russia, yes, you have to worry that all the countries around you will join NATO because then there could be a base placed right on their borders, yes, yes, yes, exactly, so what China is doing now is normalizing this military activity around Taiwan and it is doing it because it knows that with the size of its army and with the modern army that it has, what any other foreign aggressor has to do is get to their home court and defeat them.

It's going to be difficult, yes, their plan for the next 10 years is to increase their ability to expand or extend their army, so you first have to protect yourself once you can protect. yourself, now is the time to dominate abroad and do you think they will start engaging in proxy wars? They are already engaging in proxy wars all over Southeast Asia, all over Africa, what about South America? South America, are they involved in Venezuela? So, South America. It's interesting, uh, I can't speak knowledgeably right now, okay, what the Chinese have discovered is that because of the rapid growth they had from the 1980s to the 2010s, they had a surplus of money income. to be able to spend that money.

That's what the Belt and Road Initiative did, the Belt and Road Initiative made it possible for China to send loans to impoverished countries at rates that no Western country could compete with. Yes, they were beating the world bank, weren't they, them and the world. The bank gives you the loan specifically low so they can put you in debt and whatever, so China basically followed the same model learning from us, so when it came to Latin America they didn't have to get involved in proxy wars because there were so many people there were just willing to take loans in exchange for, you know, hundred-year leases and property rights to the land, they basically bought the Caribbean and they bought most of Central America and they bought parts of South America that they just own for about 99 Annual leases simply allow them to do what we try not to do, but the United States is a capitalist country.

We don't make loans that are going to default. We can't do it because of checks and balances, so we depend on foreign aid to get it right, guess what about foreign aid. Outside help is not reliable because if you are hot, you get a lot of outside help. If you're cold, you don't get much outside help, so when you're there, when you're there. the corrupt leader of Panama and you ask which of these two options I take. So do you think China is the next superpower? I guess it's China or one of the Middle Eastern countries, yeah, so China is the closest economy.

Economic experts believe that by 2030 China will have achieved economic parity with the United States and everything will remain the same, so everything remaining the same means that we also have to remain the same, if we do not change we will see the rise of China. to economic parity with the United States, which in my opinion is as bad as China being dominant, yes, of course, because the effects are exactly the same, the effects are the same, whether they are 1% better, a 10% better or a distant % is six years. From now on, six years from now, wait, so you never answered the question, where are you going to live?

So I plan to move to Europe, where, uh, Portugal, Spain, Italy, uh, those are three of my top fire options in Croatia, yeah, uh, those are all. countries that have several things in their favor. I'm also looking at Sweden, first of all, you don't want to be Swedish, bro, they are neutral countries, no one SEES, no one sees those counts. Spain is incredible. I used to live in Spain. It's the best, no one sees those countries as a threat, yes, so the economic superpowers of the world start fighting for everything, yes, that fight will not go to Poland or that fight will not go to Portugal, that fight will not go to Spain , oh you.

I am worried about the Hot War. I'm worried about the Hot War. I am worried about the Economic War. I am concerned about forcing policies like domestic politics on foreign countries because that is essentially what both the United States and China do. States that we are not an innocent country as if we forced our policies, we forced internal policies in other countries, that is why democracy grew because we forced it, basically we said that we must have free and fair elections, if you want our money, you have to do this and who. we defined free and fair elections that we did, we are also the country that came up with the manipulation, yeah right, so it's up there, but that's what China has learned from it, that's what they do in Hong Kong, it's What they do in Malaysia is what they do in the Philippines, right, they try to force foreign policy.

Andrew says this a lot and I think it's true when the United States is not a superpower, let's say it's China and that's why I'm afraid of China. You're going to miss the American superpower because I don't know if they're going to be remote, friendly with the way they try to exert their control, or even up front, friendly with the way they try to exert their control. It's just that something that you think happens, are you afraid of it? I would not do it. so fear is not so much about how I define it, but rather a series of probabilities, that is, a probability that you see, is absolutely a probability that I see, and the way China executes its ambitions is different than the way the United States executes on its ambition, that was my next question, we try to incentivize people to do what we want them to do, hey, do it and it may be a little bad for you, but it will also be good for you, not for Asians, that's not the Asian way. of doing things the Asian way of doing things is to do it this way or you will be punished or else I like the world of incentives because incentives always give you options, but the world of law enforcement is difficult and that's why 10 years will help define what's going to happen to all of us, wow, but the next 15 to 20 years after that will look like this seahorse, or this SE saw this, this rocking from side to side. another, you know, democracy becomes a little more fashionable, yeah, authoritarian power becomes a little more fashionable as we're all caught up in this effect of which of these we actually choose.

Can you talk about Chinese officials or operators in the United States right now? So what can I talk about? What is allowed are the things that have been making headlines more and more. We know that the Chinese have secret police stations in the United States and Canada. It really was a big deal in Canada. Yes, everything is more important in Canada. Yes. The syrup is bigger. agree in Canada, yes, but they do it and they do it because, at the core of the Chinese experience, as we talk about the American experience, at the core of the Chinese experience, you're Chinese first, that's the ideology we were talking about , TRUE? you have such a close bond with your family and you have such a close bond with the Homeland that even if you are a Chinese immigrant, you are still fighting for your family and the Homeland, right, it's still your first loyalty, it doesn't mean it's your first loyalty is 99 to 1, it could be 6040, but it's still your first loyalty and you're often responsible for taking care of the older generation, so your income, your money, actually goes back to China to take care of your parents until you can bring. them to the United States, which is quite common for immigrants, although yes, I don't think it's a special idiosyncrasy to choose it because of the ideology of the USA, which is the first one out, I would say that it is correct in the States United, mom and dad have a retirement fund and they have social security and they save their own 401k and if they didn't do well, why the hell didn't you do that?

Mom and dad, that's up to you, yeah, yeah, now you're wearing me out, how does that feel? You know, the grandkids are eating ramen because you can't pay the diabetes bill or whatever. It's a completely different mentality in the United States, yes, things like secret police stations that are not authorized, uh, the incredible amount of Chinese Ence. collection happening here in the last week before we came here, we had a military, a person, a U.S. military officer or, sorry, a U.S. military enlisted, was arrested for Chinese espionage. We had Google, a Google technician was arrested for Chinese espionage, wow, so the Chinese are actually actively recruiting in our tech sector and in our military, and that's just in the last seven days.

When you look at the prosecuted cases of Chinese espionage in the United States over the last five years, it is a record in generating more intelligence, arrests in espionage cases, just arrests than Always before, every time there is an arrest, Our general rule is to arrest everyone, there are nine more operations that have not yet been detected. So it gives you an idea of ​​how active the Chinese are against the United States. I don't want to paint. the chinese show themselves as a bad guy they are just doing the same thing we do this is the game but we arethe big dog they are trying to become the big dog they are a little bit meaner dog although they are very different breed what is the spy offer is just money so the spy offer when we talk about the offer we have to remember which goes back to those four ideologies or those four motivations that we generally associate with money, but the reward is not about money, it's about what you're going to do with the money, right, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you guys don't work for money, you might think that that level of service, of course, I work for the money, no, no, you work for who you are. what we are going to do with the money is fine, so what the Chinese have learned about our culture is that in our culture we all brag about money and keep secret what we are going to do with the money; it's really there because I'm worried about my kids not having enough money for college, it's really there because I'm worried about when I get older and get sick, it's there because I'm worried about something or something else, so when they make a supplication for us or when they make us an offer of money many times it is because we are already in debt and we have made bad financial decisions because our culture is a culture driven by debt MH and we are also worried about money in the future because "We are already in debt, so that it's so easy for them to come up with a monetary salvation.

Wow, and we think, "Oh, yeah, I mean, my secrets are worth that much to you because my own government doesn't think they're worth that much to them, 200,000 in loan debt." students even though I work at Google I still have a lot of Deb. I worry, yes, and then you have everything, uh, the ideology of the United States also includes a cultural ideology that does not exist in Asia, for example, sex is still a taboo subject. In the United States, as open as it has become, it's still a very taboo topic, like the whole sexual deviance thing I was talking about, right?

We don't really like it. talk about what our particular Kink is with anyone we really don't like talk about how often we or don't have sex with our spouse or our girlfriend or anything else we don't like to talk about, whether or not we explore homosexuality at university, there are all kinds of things that we don't talk about and that Europe talks about on the front page of the newspaper, that they go out and have a few drinks and encourage each other and talk about China in a much more comfortable way. Not with that, but China believes that they are no longer comfortable with that, but they know that we are uncomfortable with that, so they know how to present to us what in colloquial terms is known as sexpionage, they can feed our sexual interest because they do not . having individual freedom is what they, I guess, the CIA accused Trump of doing to Russia like, oh, they pissed on you, you don't want anyone to know that we have you, they piss on you, now we have this power over you, China will do it. that for someone in that is the sea in rice that is Co black man is coercion the other option is to get a Chinese bride a CH a beautiful, calm and discreet bride who goes where you need her to go when you need her to go there and she will help you He treats you like a king every time you arrive, so all the couples in Williamsburg are just spies.

I mean, it's not a far-fetched accusation, right, but you want to know why all those, I mean, there's a real problem with Americans. academics who travel to Asia and the reason it is such a big problem is because they land in poor quality conditions and have their Chinese girlfriend waiting for them for 4 days and their spouse doesn't even know that everything is taken care of by the academic institution they He invited them there and those girls might not start out as agents, they could just be prostitutes or mistresses or whatever and then they become an asset of an agent, right?

Yes, this is very interesting and then you say we can't do it in the United States. because we have individual freedoms and we cannot force an American to prostitute his body, yes if they do it, they do it, but we cannot say that this is what you should do. right and if they do it not only that, but in the United States we have also chosen our actual trained agents, our trained field operators, we actively enforce that they do not take that step because when you take that step any type of romance or anything physical because of our ideology in the United States, sex is very difficult to separate from a connection outside our control.

Has anyone ever tried to turn you over? We've all been tried in different ways and how did you know? They were an agent, yeah, and what were they doing, where were you, so can you say where, where were you, yeah, there, so, my time at the CIA, I can't talk about that, well, when I left the CIA, one of my first big jobs was in private intelligence, well, I went to the United Arab Emirates, United Arab Emirates, it's okay to run a private intelligence contract there because they were moving away from the Trump school of thought and they said, hey , we are going to privatize our intelligence too and it was a well-paying job in a foreign place.

I could take my family and write my own check properly, so you had to go get intelligence on someone out there. Can you talk about that? It's a confidentiality contract, but I was supporting private intelligence in Abu Dhabi, so those are our people out there, you know what I mean, they are our allies, so when you are there, they introduce you to everyone else too who travel through Dubai or travel through Abu Dhabi. So you have the Russians, the Chinese, the North Koreans and the Iranians, they can all travel through the Middle East unlike they can in parts of Europe, so you have them all presented all the time, so what many times it happens that it is not like that.

It's like in the movies, when someone comes up to you and they hand you like a suitcase and tell you that now you're going to spy on us, right, you're not, instead they try to build a relationship with you they try to figure out what you do. you know they are foreigners you hear the foreign accent you know they are foreigners because they have an ID a national ID in the Emirates that says what your nationality is right, but you still have to do business with all of them, so you have to work with the Chinese, the Israelis and Russians.

The difference is how you determine which ones are doing a job, how you do it, and which ones. you're doing the other job, yeah, what gave it away, well, it's not like that, you won't give it away until they start asking you to have personal relationships where you keep secrets, okay, and give me an example of what it was like. There's someone who was really good and while it was happening you said, "Oh, this is a new level." I didn't even do it, so Mad is really good at this, he's fine, so tell me, tell me, so when he's mad, he'll work with you. is the Israeli intelligence shinb of the Israeli foreign collection is your FBI is your FBI has it then the Israeli Massad will work with you will collaborate with you will share with you everything is a team fight and it is always in the workplace until you have a big victory and then when you have a big victory, then they say we should celebrate this in this nice hotel or this nice bar or whatever, we have a connection through, you know, the Israeli connections and now we'll have a private room and all those other things and it will be a blast once as a trained intelligence officer, once someone takes you from a public environment to a private environment, you know that Now you are on what we call a developmental path where they are trying to develop you , so immediately you are HIIT, they immediately mark you in red, okay, of course, mark me in red, you mark them in red, they understood it, but at the same time like There is a lot of culture that just wants a party, yes, then you go to the party and then you have to hey, you can go both ways, honestly, okay, this is good, this is good, so you have to evaluate what happens at the party. you're at this party, so now when you're at the party again, Massad's standard tactic is that you're at the party and then they'll start pulling you out of the main party to have these sidebar conversations about work stuff like , hey.

It was amazing that you found that thing, that you found that deeply fake video and you were able to reverse engineer who it came from, how you did it. Can you tell me how you did it? That is why it is important that you do not use substances if you are a little lazy with drinks, you can offer that information correctly and you have already created a report. These people you just celebrated a victory. Your teammates. It's hard enough to be sober without talking. Yes, yes, okay, okay. So that you can any blow to your ego, look at what you did and exactly so that you can see yourself going down this thing that we also call a slippery slope.

If you've ever climbed a tall mountain, of course you go past the tree line. Entering the Rocks is like a rock fight, we call that a slippery slope in Espionage also once you cross that tree line it's very difficult to avoid slipping, how do you maintain your relationship with them while closing their interrogations? Be a point with a trained intelligence person where you use language they understand to let them know that development stops there. Can you tell what that is? Yes, then you'll have to say something like I appreciate our work together, but you're entering a realm that I'm not willing to share with you oh so you got it I thought it would be more subtle basically you tell them no I mean that's pretty subtle in our world oh really true in our subtle world is that I have professional obligations that prevent me from following this path which is not subtle to shoot you are you a spy? are you trying to steal something from me?

Okay, so you had to tell him that and then he smiles and says, oh. you knew what he was doing there is like a little cunning there is some G no with no with crazy crazy it is a business the Russians there is cunning because the Russians are thinking this the Russians are thinking you say no today but tomorrow the game continues and so do we He been doing this for decades with the Russians, that's a dance there, okay, now I imagine you've also tried to do this with others and did they do the same tactic?

They have this victory and then? suddenly you push them aside no, that's how it is, the American tactic is very different from many other tactics, what is the American? We're personal, share, you just share mem all the time, dickpics, yeah, okay, okay, so wait, wait, you're personal. all the time, what does that mean? That means directly from the So can you give us an example after the CIA? You can talk about it. Yes, after C. I can talk about it. So, the same private contract in the Middle East. I needed to bring a reporting source for my contractor for my contract holder Reporting source means an Intelligence Source in the private world, so you need a Private Intelligence Source from another contractor and you need to bring it from a foreign country and they are professionals in this. it's what they do for a living and you have to break them uh yeah, exactly right, except a lot of times you're not trying to break anyone.

What does that mean? Because you're not trying to. You are in our way of doing things right. The best practice in the United States is that you are not trying to break someone's will, you are not trying to deceive or trick them, how do we operate with incentives? Scratch my back, I'll scratch yours, it's a fact, only my scratch is better, yeah. I have you now so you don't even think that you've become a double agent, it's you, you're realizing that you're professionals, so you know that's what you're asked to do, but at the same time. they're like I'm getting this information that my people might like or more importantly they're thinking I'm getting this other Benny that my people don't even have to know about wa oh oh okay so tell us is good.

Did you get your goal, are there several and did you set one or was it always one the entire time? Usually what happens is that you have a goal, but the goal you want is not achievable because the goal you want will never be achieved. convert so you end up chasing that target to find out who his network of close associates are so you can then get unstuck, it's like trying to get a profit from the mafia and then you just get the other guy to rat you out, so that's how it really happens . it works and then when you actually find your way to the associate, ideally the associate has the ear of the main target, so now by influencing the associate you influence the main target, okay, so tell me how you did it So when you approach the associate, the associate is trained, but the associate also has his own challenges.

Can you tell me the story? Can you tell me the story of how it happened? uh I can give you that it's still NDA, but I can give you some of that properly, so I reached out to my associate. The guys already have a good relationship, they're already working together, well, I mean, day one, as soon as I know, this is the person that I think is going to connect me to the main goal, yeah, I'm not. Keeping it professional I am.making personal different than crazy crazy wants to keep it professional until there is a reason to make it personal our process is different because our process has to fit our culture and what people think stereotypically well so what are you going to do?

Do what you would do, we gotta come to dinner, come have a barbecue, come meet my kids, come, you'll use your family, your whole world is yours, man, and there's no guilt in that, there's no fear, there's fear, but there's I mean, you can control the fear, you can control your safety, but the blame part isn't really, this is a foreigner, okay, okay, go on, go on, so you immediately say, hey, Let's find a way to come together for something, uh. easy superficial basketball soccer golf women drink anything else especially when you talk to a foreigner because foreigners have much less brains well they have less sensitivities than many Americans because we are a Christian culture you know it deep down yes. so it's much easier to say: hey, what do you like to do? and they say: I like to bet.

I like to bet big and lose big and you say, well then let's do the right thing and then when there and they lose their ass, then you step in and say, man, you had better luck than me because I lost my ass two hours ago, like this that we are going to put another 500 on you and then you start showing them that you are a good time you start doing the same thing that you said before you said that now I like you and I trust you now as if you were saying that you are taking them to your wife to your family you wife knows what time it is she's also an operative so everyone is shooting everyone that's how you guys and now remember we're talking about a trained professional on the other side because they know so that trained professional on the The other side knows who you are and they know what you did, especially me when I left the CIA.

I've been open since I left, so you know I was previously trained by the CIA, so you knew when it was Abu Dhabi that that's what I was there for. I was there. an intelligence capability I was there supporting a private contract how do you still get them because they want something more? Keep in mind that secrets are a commodity, if they want something more it means it's something personal or if they represent their country they want something more personal. They want to gamble They want drugs They want women They want money because they've been busting their ass all their lives for a government salary They have kids that have medical problems that can't be treated in their home country, you'll find out all those things, yeah, because what happens It's that when we take it, when you make it personal right away, when you make it personal right away, you break down all those artificial barriers of what we can and can't talk about.

Do you just go to your employer and say you give me x amount of money and we can get whatever you need, but I'm sorry, very quickly, it can't be? Hey, here's money, they have to trust you to give it to them. money without strings attached, right, it's not even just about money, it's about you being the provider of the solution, right, your child has a disease, yes, I don't have to give you money to treat your children's illness. I can call a friend. who's a doctor again and you just have to take your kids to what you were saying it's not about the money it's about what money buys what it does so I've heard this with different words from operatives it's like oh , they find out they're a big football fan and they're like, dude, I actually have a jersey like the Patriots, like you should have that or like they'd give them something like that, hypothetically let's say you found out someone was a big football fan. comedy, let's say they loved Andrew Schultz, okay, let's say they loved AOS, okay, how could you leverage that to get what you want?

So if I know you guys are a big F, first of all, if you're a big fan of your comedy guys, yeah, you're good guys, but I know a lot about them, you guys have a unique style, sexual deviant right away, yeah, They are not going to see Sinbad, they know it, yes, that tells us a lot, but what? I can, that's interesting, yeah, so it's super important, yeah. What we can do is say I have a client who has front row seats to Andrew's next show, but the client can't make it, so I have these three tickets that are burning a hole in my pocket do you want to come I'll go and then do you want bring your wife or do you want me to find a nice lady to come with us oo now would you buy the tickets get away with the money or would you go to SCH and say "We can get some tickets for this, maybe do a meet and greet okay, like this that the reason I wouldn't do it right now, from now on, that makes me say yes." The reason I wouldn't do that is because I now put a marker in his mind.

Yeah, why did Andy want three free tickets? Why do you want to be compensated if I go to him and tell him I want two tickets? like, oh, it's for you and your wife and then he'll pick me up at the show, but instead it's so much easier to just go to Box Office B and buy three tickets with a disposable credit card in someone else's name, but he Yes, he will look for me the day he can. put disgu dumb to make it good but that's how it would work for Target yeah if you ask me for tickets I'd need info yeah I want to know everything wait so you got you got the guy you got the info though.

From him, so what I got was I got the guy to understand that I was selling their information to my clients through the contractor and that it was a discreet relationship with the contractor and that I was going to leave and that's the ultimate goal for us in the intelligence world is to get your target to share their information directly with the institution so you can get out, that's the ultimate and that's the game around the world, so you don't even want to know the information you have. at first, but most people who know the information are a liability in what we call the acquisition chain the information acquisition chain, can you explain why you would be a liability?

Give me the worst case scenario, sure, sure. So the assets themselves give you an information, let's say whatever they give you, they give you the can of information, well now they have to give me that same can, if I take a sip or if I spill it, it's different and then . If I give it to you, you can take a sip or you can spill it and then when it gets to the organization, it's only half full. How often do guys like you incorporate espionage into the US? That must be a huge thing because information is everything in business and competition, so I want to be that.

I'm going to be very particular with the words. Espionage is illegal. Okay, everywhere in the world. Espionage is illegal. The only reason clandestine CIA officers can engage in espionage is because there is an exception in US law that states that when you are trained by the US government and collect secrets about foreign countries to support the US government, you will not be prosecuted for corporate espionage, industrial espionage, always illegal espionage, there is no exception. to protect them, so what is it called? Espionage, as you think of it, stealing, the definition of espionage is stealing secrets. Corporate espionage should not happen, most professionals in the intelligence world do not do it because the risk is too high. right, if I help Yahoo steal secrets from Duck Ducko, I'll go to jail for a long time.

I understood it so that people do not participate in that, what they do participate in is private intelligence. Private intelligence means finding legal methods to collect information that can be used to create an analysis or assessment, so now if I want to do an analysis of Verizon in support of AT&T, I can find several legal ways to collect data about Verizon. I can then compile them using proprietary methods that create an evaluation for AT&T. two very different things, why don't you aim for the top brass of the Fortune 500 and then use insider trading, get rich, and sail off into the sunset?

It's a lot more work than you think, firstly, and secondly, the higher-ups. and many of those organizations don't actually carry out decision making. I mean, target someone to be the decision maker and then negotiate like Nancy Pelosi, which and that's essentially who does that, is the boards of directors. uh uh in those large companies that usually have that type of knowledge because they are the ones who make the decision, what is not, is not approved, the CEO presents it, but the people who have relations with the boards of directors are often politicians . or other boards of directors of other board members of okay guys, let's take a break for a second because listen, let's face it, we want a way to eat healthy meals full of protein, but spending hours in the kitchen to prepare them is absolutely a shit and we're not going to do it, we're just not going to do it, that's why you have to check out flex meals Pro.

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Yeah, I don't trust anyone's intentions, so do you believe that? You could potentially be working for some government organization. I think anyone could. I think anyone could. You are definitely smart enough. You are attractive enough. The facts are correct to be able to do it, but the biggest concern with someone like you is not that. you're doing it knowingly it's that you're doing it without realizing that you're being used that's what I think is happening with you now as I think you understood me you put that clip right there you responded to what we sat in the Pod and then I bit the bait, but I knowingly took the bait, so this guy was provoking me and then I put him in the Pod, but maybe I wanted him in the Pod in the first place, so you never know, so you're the master, I might being, it's enough proof of what country you think I'd be working for if, judging by his nose, you're mad, it's too obvious, it's too obvious, too obvious, 'cause I've been doing all this raah ra America stuff, but maybe that whether it's just to throw off the trail, that's true, you could be, you could be really good.

Ivan's intelligence is sick, yes, yes,it has that kind of Eastern bloc as a division three country. I don't know, not even a basketball player. No, is there a country that is really small, but has grown outside of Israel, you would be surprised at its level of intelligence. Cuba really CU, yes, the poor of Cuba, the little ones of Cuba, ostracized, their intelligence is amazing and how are they spreading their intelligence in the world? I mean, how do they even do it so well, that's what's so impressive. What we have learned to do in the United States is take advantage of our economic incentive to get people to spy on us.

Cuba almost exclusively takes advantage of ideological motivations where people feel bad for the The plight of Cubans feel that what happened to Cubans is an injustice and they feel that poverty is being forced by Western democracy or whatever, so that what they can do is find sympathizers and then cultivate that sympathy. The case of Anam Montes is really interesting because Anam Montes worked for Dia and was recruited by the Cubans at the same time. At that time another gentleman named William could be William Burns who worked for the State Department and was also recruited by the Cubans in the same time period and this was during the Clinton administration when his entire foreign policy on Cuba was being dictated by Clinton. by two spies by two organizations the state department and the DIA they were already influenced by and those were the main experts on Cuba, so the entire Clinton administration was essentially being run by the Cubans because of this perfect conglomerate, this triangle perfect intelligence and when did we find out about that? 19 I think she was convicted in the early 2000s.

Actually, when was Anam Mones convicted? Let me find out now. Okay, he was arrested in 2001 2001. Okay, now yes, then the damage was done, it couldn't be. one because he's already out of office years she was involved the eight years in theory, that's really interesting, you don't necessarily need to take your citizens to another country and then trick them into letting them into the government, you can get the sympathy of those countries. government and wow, you probably even see that happening right now, that's why ideology is the most powerful of all motives, think about all the things that are included like religion, ideology, uh, nationalism, ideology, academics, ideology, family, ideology, ideology is something super powerful that man has. other countries did that to us too uh yeah, so I mean, the Russians, that's right, the Russians, there were Russians, what was that story?, there was a guy who was like he was the head of the investigation unit, uh, I guess it was in the FBI it was yeah, yeah, you tell the story, yeah, this is, I mean, I know why we haven't made a movie about it, but it should be every one of their movies, Robert Hansen and Aldri Ames again. during the Cold War period, yes. one was the FBI, the other was the CIA and the Russians had been recruiting them both for over a decade so they were able to be more interesting and were able to gather information about the CIA operations in Russia and the FBI operations against Russia in the U.S. and at the same time being able to influence what the organizations were investigating and, furthermore, the people within those organizations that were hired to look for the mole, yes, it was them, yes, so these two guys were so veteran that when the mole found her hunt started, they say it will take us a long time, they hired the mole, so how come we are the easiest to reach the top level?

So what is it like? I mean, you'd think it's something so powerful that it's like having a chess board, yeah, how did it not work, so how did the US essentially win the Cold War? At least that's what I understand happened, the US didn't win the Cold War. Russia imploded if you remember the fall. of the Berlin Wall was the collapse of the Soviet Union is because communism is sustainable or I mean the way they were trying to, the way the USSR was trying to manage communism, it was not sustainable and then you think that China solved those problems.

I'm really worried about China if you can't tell, well, well, just get on this real quick, huh? I think the CIA had implemented a similar economic deployment, a block, no, not even a block, I think they were deploying resources, uh, uh, for as an American, what was impressionist art? No, it was postmodern art. Postmodern art like they were deploying capital to reinforce Western ideology and artistic expression, so there was like, um, there was a movement to, I guess, prop up certain cultural institutions in America and make them seem more successful than they actually were, so which, again, what you're referring to is a lot of what defined the CIA before 9/11, which was spaghetti on a wall, oh, just try anything, try anything and it's very difficult to quantify the value of any of those things, like investing a lot of money in postmodernist art done by Spanish artists in Barcelona, ​​this is funny, right, this is funny, let's try it in hindsight, we thought it was the coolest thing, but yeah, yeah, it was. nothing we couldn't measure maybe it was the game changer MK Ultra same same thing MK Ultra is one of those things where it's like the bad guys are doing it we should do it too how do we measure success before oversight of the 911?

So you guys could just throw anything into the project. Target the right remote viewers and try to use LSD to be able to hack people's brains. The bad guys are doing it. We should do it too. How do we measure it? I wanna go. on MK Ultra and the Stargate project, but uh uh also real quick, let's just go back to um, the CIA spending, that's what some people say the space race was all about, bankrupting Russia and that led to the implosion of Russia, it was part of that that failed. is that Russia beat us in the space race in two of the four categories, I think, or they got there first, they did the first spacewalk, they did the first spacewalk, but they didn't get to the moon properly, but they didn't get to the Moon, that's right and their spaceships were crazy.

Did you see the thing as if it were a game of chance? The things they were sending there. The fact that any of them worked. The first type. I forgot the guy's name. This guy's balls. Yuri. What was Yuri? I forgot his last name at the moment. I mean, they're literally going to go. We have to beat the Americans. Send anything there. Anything. Trash cans with duct tape. It is true that the United States was funding or the CIA was funding this space race in an effort to make Russia economically unsustainable. I'm not serious, it's a very plausible theory.

I wouldn't call it a conspiracy theory. I would call it a conspiracy theory. Very plausible theory, uh, because it makes sense that the CIA maintains a black budget, it's a covert budget and that the way it appropriates that covert budget is through things where where there's extra money, there's extra money that the budget cannot account, like your bean. The accountants in Washington can't account for it, so they put it in the black budget so the CIA can use it for national security reasons. Ah, so you basically have a big black check, a big blank check to do all kinds of crazy things.

Spaghetti on the wall That's spaghetti in the now Do you think it was more effective or less effective because I heard you say that the new CIA isn't that good either? post 91 not post 911 I much, much prefer because post 911 has checks and balances to confirm that what they are doing is not harming Americans, okay, before 911 all kinds of things could happen and you would have no idea if it is harming to the Americans or not, so after 9/11 I think it's a lot better than that, however, we've also lost our risk tolerance and when you ask how do the CIA people view me as if it's a split decision because there are many people in the CIA who are doing everything they can to do a good job, who know that the CIA is no longer taking risks, are afraid to take certain risks, are afraid that some congressman or some senator will say no and that someone lose your job and then you're going to lose your pension, so we have a group of junior officers who say we need to try something new and a group of senior officers who say we need to fill the box with exactly what we know so far. but it's complicated because you are operating in the highest stakes game, so the risk requires incredible responsibility and the risks are not even for you, like in intelligence, I can take the risk of collecting the secret, but the longer the secret , the longer that secret is protected, we are all at risk, it's almost like Amer, wait, wait, wait, what did you mean by that?

Because if someone else has a secret that they know about us that I can't collect to collect it, I put myself at risk if I don't try to collect it, we all put ourselves at risk, so you're saying it's more beneficial, it would behoove us to take more risks because in reality keeps us all safe, the RIS, so what would be the risk? would be that you would have to assume that people are a little worried about doing it, uh, for example, right, if you had a big deal for agriculture and I mention this a lot because you would be surprised.

How much does espionage have to do with the ability to anticipate agricultural trade if you think about what's happening in the Black Sea right now? I was just referring to agriculture with Ukraine, right, yeah, so when it comes to agriculture, the idea of ​​let's say Obama got eggs. in your face because the NSA was caught collecting agricultural secrets about Anela Merkel in Germany, that's right, I remember it and it was something very strange because we thought: why would we collect a series of secrets from one of our allies, not Germany? say not to be transparent about their trade policy with a common third country, so we have to collect from Germany and collect from our target third country to see if the two countries are telling us the truth about each other and they were wrong. right, so he was right to do it right, so he didn't really get egg on his face, this was a lie, except that he caused massive damage to the US German herd.

To me, that's up to you, Like yeah, yeah, oh, go on, go on. I mean, I understand what you're saying, yes, you're saying that's the American view on NATO. NATO was like what man, how dare you spy on Al? Germany is the economic engine of all of Europe, Europe, yes, and now I just pissed them off, okay, but it goes on, that's how it works, so the kind of risks that you have to take are the risks that there will be some kind of flap that create a gap between the two. Diplomatic relations between two countries that are supposed to be strong and everyone is worried about losing their jobs because if it turns out that the intelligence doesn't really support anything, now we take this huge risk to piss off Britain or we could piss off Germany or piss off Canada, one of our allies, and we didn't get any of that, they can you good and and and that's Europe, when you talk about Latin America or Africa, now you talk about us pissing off the warlord and now they're taking the B and I instead and now we have completely lost access to China like we are not going to do that to you yeah we are going to play nice unlike the United States yeah and then we will lose all of our global influence and not to mention It's a big risk that we forced, sorry, I just pressed our microphone and then not to mention that we forced our ideology on other countries, so we say, hey Mogadishu, we would love to help you, you need to have a free and fair life. elections uh you are not a democratically elected president so you need to create an election schedule and you need to find a way to make sure that all your voters can vote equally and then in the meantime that same warlord makes the Chinese come up and Being that we don't need to change, you just need to sign on the dotted line here so we have access for the next 99 years and why is it so important for us to push our ideology so it's easier to control?

He is our bidder. World War II strategy emerged from World War II. Remember that America was largely intact during World War II, if anything, our economy, our explosion. Yes, our economy exploded, yes. Germany, France, Poland, reeling, destroyed, industrially and architecturally destroyed, so we went in there and said, we have a lot of money to lend to you, we have a lot of infrastructure to go in and start building right away, but to have access to that money and this , you must follow these guidelines and then we become the leader of the democratic world. You are right, but why did we feel that this proximity to Russia was advantageous?

Maybe we thought it was economically advantageous because we knew that by rebuilding these countries, oh no, that part makes sense, but why push ideology?Why was ideology the Lo of rice where ideology is the strongest, right, it's so we can control your ideology, we can control it. I see, and we are essentially programming in the new economy. A dependency of the United States. Yes, oh, brilliant. and guess who is following that model now China, they are programming in these economies, they are investing money, they are now dependent on China, that is what we have been doing and this is: I love my country, I love the CIA, this is how it works . these best practices this is the game this is the game if you don't like it it's okay it's still the game whether you like it or not and it's the game we mastered and it's the game we've been playing for so long It's been a long time since someone else has been watching our tape just like you watch the tape of the Rival football teams and now they say: I think we know how to do it better.

I'm listening to you, it's almost like you know what you were talking about. when you're young you have a high risk tolerance and then as you get older, not so much, it's almost as if America, as a young country, takes on all the risks. The CIA threw spaghetti at the wall. Here is the money that gives like the United States. gets older, more security now we think, calm down, everyone, let's keep things as they are. I don't want to take it too when you're at our detriment, when you got first place, there's only one place to go, so everything feels like Risk, it's true when you're going up, it's like, this W is worth it, we could get the First of all, there's nothing to lose, so again, democracy driving democracy driving ideology is a form of control where we don't just control. what they believe in, but we can control the way they operate commercially, is that the idea yes, I mean, how does dependence on the US create democracy outside of the loan because if you want a certain if we as the United States wants some political power to win an election, we can go in and say we believe in this person, not that other person, yes, of course, we have done it before, we will give more foreign aid because this person is a very strong Democratic leader. but if you vote for that person we are going to have to withdraw our vanguard, it is exactly what we did with Hamas in Palestine, right, we said we would support the Palestinian people in Gaza MH and then we reclassified Hamas as a terrorist group again, right, we declassified them in 2019 we reclassified them in 2024 as a terrorist group and then once we reclassified them we took money out because we can't support a terrorist group, but we didn't define them as a terrorist group before.

What I'm saying is do it to and I imagine other countries also think: well, I can't be supporting a terrorist group, that's what I think our joint strategy with Israel hoped for, but instead , what happened is that many of our closest European allies said that's it, the United States we're going to double down and put more money into Turkey, France, Spain, they kept it and now that's why you see the Biden Administration where now they're tied because now they're like okay. We call them terrorists, we recover money and people are still dying and Netanyahu is still going crazy, so what do we do now?

There is a division between Netanyahu and Biden. They are now talking to opposition parties in Israel to see if they can. find a way to do some kind of ceasefire, I mean, today is the second day of Ramadan, which is one of the most important Muslim holidays and there was supposed to be a ceasefire that was orchestrated to help honor this holiday and instead, what you think is happening in Israel, Palestine, is not happening, so despite all the concerns people had about Putin being overthrown during his war in Ukraine, Netanyahu is much more at risk than Putin actually because Israel is a democracy that has functioned from the beginning. people really have a voice, there is relative transparency there, they already have people asking for re-election, they already have opposition leaders who are being welcomed and recognized in the West, like Netanyahu is in a really unpleasant place, there is no support for BBY in Israel?

At the moment there is support, but it is very narrow support from the far right, where most of the country has adopted a very moderate attitude. Oh, I thought the war unified the country behind it for the first time, probably temporally similar to the 9/11 protests. comes oh and now they're starting to get interesting so he's what's up remember 911 how we all get along and then finally what are we doing we're more divided than ever so it's almost like you have a small window to do whatever you wanted. You need to do it where you have full support and the longer that window lasts, the riskier your position becomes and we learned that lesson after 9/11, so the Americans came out and said, "Hey, you know, Israel, an injustice has been done." , do not do it".

The airstrikes you are planning do not make the mistake we made, but it was a political opportunity for Netanyahu to consolidate his power at a time when there were already divisions over whether the country liked him or not and as a result, according to his point of view, Hamas is now more popular and has stronger support than ever in both Gaza and the West Bank, because there is an absolute difference between a Palestinian and a Hamas terrorist they are not the same, yes, but because the media media for so long they have been called the same thing, the two words have been used interchangeably, yes it is now common knowledge if you watch the news a week into October. 8.

When the attack happened, you would see the news saying that 11,000 people have been killed in Palestine according to Hamas authorities and then you would see a little disclaimer at the bottom saying that Hamas controls Gaza, so health and health, uh, uh, whatever comes from they're right, so they're basically saying don't trust this information because it comes from Hamas. When they look at the same thing now they will say that 30,000 people have died according to the Palestinian health authority. Oh wow, we just validated that Hamas, which We also call a terrorist organization a valid government organization. Oh, and it's complicated because they have always been the designated political power in Gaza since 2007, so they have been, but because we have been very bad with our vernacular and our terminology.

We have let the waters become cloudy and now it is very difficult to teach people the truth. Well, I think we have questioned whether they were actually democratically elected or not, that was true, yes, there is very little evidence to say that they were democratically elected, but it is also because of the aparti that has been practiced in Palestinian territory for so long At the same time, there is a question of whether or not they could have democratic elections, yes, but it is the fact that their popularity is growing in the West Bank that is the part that is so interesting because the West Bank has always been a fat government coalition backed by the United States. and now even that is falling apart, so what do you think is happening?

Do you think BB will be overthrown? I can not imagine. In Israel, either a ceasefire is called that is prolonged while a new normal is established and a two-state solution is back on the table, that is the most likely thing to happen, whether that happens soon or not, no I know if we will. We're talking months or years, but for Netanyahu to remain in power he will have to call a ceasefire and then achieve a ceasefire. The same is going to happen in Ukraine. Ukraine and Israel will look very similar from now on in what way.

Because the aggressor or the US-backed country, Ukraine and Israel, have made promises they cannot keep, there is no way for Zalinski to win this war to the point where all of Ukraine's Priet-era borders are returned. to Ukraine. so now the decision is how many people are going to die, yeah the decision is how many people are going to die before calling a ceasefire and basically dividing the country in half according to the borders that already exist in Israel, like uh . Netanyahu promised that he will occupy Palestinian lands once they are done clearing out the Hamas people, right?

That is not going to happen, you will not cleanse them of Hamas as if you have created an injustice. Hamas will always be there and then if you occupy Palestinian lands, they will still be Palestinian lands and now you will have even more impetus for the Palestinians to join Hamas and fight against the Israeli occupation, so both leaders will find that they cannot keep their promise, The best option to keep your promise is to essentially find some kind of prolonged stalemate that gives the world a chance to reset with a different disaster that takes your attention away, and then once that different disaster hits, what do you do? so, for those countries they are outside of the It doesn't matter because no one is watching frankly, what I think is going to happen is that Linsky and Netanyahu are going to get political sanctuary asylum in the United States.

Wow, because think of the United States. They can't let Zinsky die. They can't do it. He is he. he is the voice of democracy in Europe and everyone knows that Putin wants to kill him because it will be a fantastic victory for Putin. Putin has killed at least two other opponents in the last three years, so Zalinsky already, if he hasn't already signed the deal. is coming soon, he will get asylum in the United States and he will be a properly communicated EXC leader and that is who leads the country when he is gone, he will be a shadow puppet government for Russia or he will be a NATO puppet government in some way or another, so Ukraine and Israel are begging China to invade Taiwan, right, they plan to do it tomorrow so we can solve our problem without the X on our backs and China is sitting here watching the whole thing.

The United States is running out of money The United States no longer has ammunition NATO is torn by war in Europe it's time to dance. Nobody cares about what's happening here in South China except one thing which happens to be the company that is putting the stock market on its back. a Taiwanese company and we will not let anything happen to Nvidia, so what they have to do is get Nvidia out of Taiwan. If China said, I will take the entire company and move it to Pal Alto. I think it could work, so the funny thing is that NVIDIA is the country of AI, it is the AI ​​company, but it is built on the basis of tmsc, which is Semiconductor Company and it is in Taiwan, yes, so, tmsc ​​​​It is the semiconductors in Taiwan that are the key to the future. and that's why we're protecting them right, if China can find a way to get its hands on a functioning semiconductor industry, then that will greatly increase its ability to be a technological opponent, a technological alternative to the United States and the Lo The first thing they do is cut off supply to the United States or start taxing it heavily or, you know, imposing tariffs on it, but Taiwan, for some reason, is way ahead of everyone else when it comes to the chip. by the way, yeah, how this happened in the United States, so when we were doing these experiments with newly industrialized nations, it was Taiwan, there are also some others in Asia and what was our foreign policy to show.

Hey, listen, if you're comfortable with the United States, look at how good it can be and because what was our strategy: create something that makes that country's industry dependent on the United States. Oh, from us, so let's not believe in China because that's how we have some influence. control out there and at that time who had all the demand for semiconductors we who was the only country creating high technology and what we couldn't do in our country would create pollution and oh there it is now we can outsource everything from your yeah yeah , yeah, yeah, outsource all the problems Greta Thunberg will complain about, build another country's industry right next to one of your potential adversaries back when China was an ally, oh wait a minute, really , oh, that's right, because they We're doing everything we're buying right, so we didn't even foresee it and we have it.

We have military bases in Taiwan right now. We do not have military bases in Taiwan. We have military bases throughout the South Pacific. But Taiwanese. Military bases are shared, so American planes and planes can land on those bases with Taiwanese permission, without planning, without prior notice, something very impressed with your geopolitical knowledge. I don't know, man, I don't know, but this. is the SM gu, that's why Alman wants to raise a trillion dollars to get semiconductor production here in 2030, when China is on the same level as the United States and now, when it happens, not when all our attention is on China, what are you doing?

I think it happens with race relations here in America because we have so many Chinese Americans and you said the Chinese are China first, so what's going to happen here? It's an interesting question. Alex believes that every Chinatown is a cell. Sleep,you can use it to keep your family safe, your business safe, and your body safe M, that's what we do, but specifically in business it's incredibly effective. incredibly effective and not just in small businesses but also in corporate businesses, that's where I saw it and that's how I assume you were going to scale it.

I mean, at Mom and Pop's mop and pop shop, it's amazing, but it's like sitting down with these CEOs and learning how to communicate effectively with the people you might be dealing with, how to bring them in as assets, how to extract information. for them, I mean, yeah, and that's what I love what they're getting at and there's value there. but what I found where the value really shows is because it's difficult, like spaghetti on the wall, you know, funding postmodernist art in Europe during the Cold War is difficult, it's difficult to measure, yes, companies find it difficult to measure the real value. of communication skills or negotiation skills, yeah, so what we often find is that our clients call us for very specific discrete challenges, we had the C, we had a CFO from one of our clients, they deepfake us on LinkedIn and they They didn't know it. who to turn to, but there is a very fake video on LinkedIn of a CFO and they say what are we going to do because these are all lies that have been created, so they call our company, we use our network of contacts and we say: Hey guys, We have to follow the money to find out where this deepfake came from, who is behind it, who is funding it, and how we shut it down.

Sick, I see that's okay, so you also problem solving as a matter of crisis management, that's where it all starts because really, when it comes to adding value to people, like that cup of coffee, you have to add immediate value, you cannot add the promise of future value, you have to add immediate value. So when people are at their best, in the position they are most in, they come to you and say, can you do this? It's very useful to have a set of skills that you can do things with, no one knows when you tell them. them, you created the flaw video, so it's actually cool to give away CIA training that doesn't go against, like exposing or revealing CIA tricks, so what the CIA protects is called their sources and their methods and what they mean by sources and methods. they are active current intelligence gathering sources and methods by which those sources are collected, so when you teach a framework like understanding the human psychology of reciprocity that is not a CIA secret, it is not specific to them, they are taking it from some book that, uh oh Not that guy, well, Voss is a CIA guy, but there's a book called Chalini Influence.

I think his name is Keini, how do you pronounce it? But yeah, I imagine some of the tactics come from that right, so some of these things exist in The Ether and these experts have been writing about this for years and the CIA has probably boiled it down to the most effective point, like the most intelligent , because they need to teach people quickly, yes, and they need to teach people how to use these skills in the real world. Under pressure, I mean, to me, I'm like, looking at you, let's say I have a business right. I mean, we have a business here, but let's say I have a business with 100 employees and you need management of those employees and management with all those assets, so to speak, how do you instill loyalty in them?

How do you get people to buy into the ideology of this brand that you all are working for? I think it would be incredibly effective. going to military or CIA training to bring out the best in your employees and also make them feel like they are more committed to this belief system or this business, so it's a no-brainer right where I As much as I joke about that the CIA is as efficient as the DMV, which is not very efficient, that is true, but what they have become very expert at is creating a hyper-loyal structure that keeps secrets and, really, as a business, that is what they want the owner of a business.

It is a hyper loyal group that keeps secrets, we call that institutionalization and there is a model for institutionalization, it is a model that was developed by a psychologist perfected during decades of application in the CIA and now, because I left the CIA and learned these tools at the CIA, now I can Take what I learned at the CIA, the distilled version of what this psychologist expressed in academic terms and I can talk about it in layman's terms, also like hiring, just imagine the value in HR, Yes, I could see that you have a lot of value outside of the same. singular tasks and singular problems that need to be solved, but it's really about building the infrastructure for enterprise recruiting specifically, like if you know you need someone, like let's say you're hiring a manager or an agent and that agent is going to have to operate. in some murky territory where that guilt complex is going to be a problem.

I don't talk about Dove at all, but like, for example, for me, like I can't do it, some of these agents sometimes try to poach me for my agents. right and it feels a little disgusting, but they don't have that feeling of disgust, how can you detect that? You could probably develop something very easily that would help you shout for that right and then distill the hiring process and make it much more efficient to automate everything. I mean, we boil it all down to personalities. You could have them take a test. You don't even have to meet them until they pass all the requirements.

And you're saving weeks of time. you can have them take a to b a short battery that gives you their personality, you can have an assessment of what type of personality you need for the position and then you can also automate a step where they have to prove that they are good for the position by carrying out a specific task that is even a profit generating task or a revenue generating task, they are making money before they are hired and then, and that is even before they are hired, yes, and then you can even pay them to do the task of course and you can pay them a share of the profits they just earned, so now you are indoctrinating them from the beginning, that if you are going to work for us you must generate income and you will be rewarded based on a profit share of the income that you earned, have you thought about? about trying to restructure the CIA as that would look for you, one of my I have five-year goals and 10-year goals and one of my 10-year goals for our company is to have a formal contract with at least five members of the Community of intelligence where we are incorporating best practices from corporate America to the maybe we should make that a seven year goal by 2030 just out there, it would be nice if it was ni, but so essentially and what a problem that would be essentially. solve the big problem, the lifelong problem, the personal mission problem I have is: I want to keep the United States as the dominant democracy in the world, we need to remain the world superpower if my children are going to have children with passports Americans and American Citizenship I need to do everything in my power to make sure the United States remains dominant, which means I need to make sure my business makes as much money as possible to feed the GDP and I need to make sure that every client I serve earns the same. money as possible to feed the GDP so we can keep this machine running, especially if we're in high school and presidents are going to be mean and members of Congress are going to be idiots, we have to keep funding this train until the voting public can mature.

Beyond that, then that's my goal: money, money is not what I want, money is the tool that gives me what I want, what you need, but with the CIA and reforming it, do you have an idea what it could look like? the CIA? It might seem like a very beautiful thing, but that's intelligence reform and that's the legislative branch and the executive branch working together and that's them opening up to the outside, uh, civilians. Consultants that it is a big cultural change for them if they are going to go. that way, but you get the idea, oh yeah, exactly, just by sitting with you for a couple of hours.

I think you have it exactly. I appreciate it, I mean, thank you for the vote of high confidence. I'd give it about 60% Vision because you have to leave room in there for the realities of how things work and how people work. How likely is it that any of this happens in your brain for the things you think need to happen? I mean, I think in my entire life before I die when I'm over 80 years old. I mean, there's a 20% chance we'll see meaningful intelligence reform without a disaster because remember we had a disaster. 911 was what brought about intelligence reform the first time, so you're saying we need another one.

Unfortunately we are a country that has very little memory, we are reactive and until an enemy presents itself loud and clear we do not unite and we know it, that is why they do not present themselves as a clear and present danger, yes, because they do not want our Unity, they will wait until the last possible moment, they will have read the game part of War, that's our model, yeah, don't win, don't participate in war until you know you can win, wow, so be best friends, keep doing. all of our yes wow because we already know that when you invade Taiwan it will only take about 12 weeks for everyone to forget anyway that's true we have a short memory so know that they could invade Taiwan we probably wouldn't do anything.

Are we really going to let American soldiers die for Taiwan? It would be very difficult to get American support for that. What is the public's first response? Are the ships that are in that area supposed to give a response on the first day if there is an invasion, then, and that's the big question, what is the military doctrine for engaging with China on the first day? Because that's the question if you have a destroyer off the coast of southern China launching cruise missiles toward mainland China. We're War baby and that Destroyer is going to be sunk because she's right on China's doorstep, so what's that Destroyer doing?

Do you just park in the Taiwan Strait or do you park in the Taiwan port and now any attack on Taiwan is an attack on American soldiers as long as you can stop them from attacking that port they will attack all ports but now you need a ship in every port, oh yeah, impossible because China knows you don't piss off Americans unless you kill Americans and if you do we go crazy, yeah, so they find every possible way to take on Taiwan without

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a American soldier and that's the way to keep America fat and lazy it's just no we don't hurt our people and we have a shocking level of forgiveness after that H that's so true oh my god it's okay any other he asks before leaving.

I had all of these, but I didn't do them. I was just writing on the back of this paper. I'm not sure what you can share, but I'm curious, can you tell us any stories about extreme experiences, like near-death experiences, any operations you were in or anything where maybe you were almost exposed because obviously this is high risk, yes? Yeah, so um with the one operation that I'm really proud of, that operation ended with my almost capture, oh, and I'm trying to get all those details straight so I can get them all out there, so that's my personal example, wife involved.

Also, no, my wife was geographically separated at the time, so she was fine exactly, but that's the story I'm trying to get permission to tell, and I hope that permission comes soon, but that's just me and the thing is my story. was about to be captured, there are other CIA officers who have already been captured, who have already been imprisoned, who have already been interrogated, who have been used for political propaganda. I'm talking about the stories of the CIA heroes. I swear to you that the heroes of the CIA are still in the CIA because I have chosen to sacrifice everything else to stay there.

I mean, I'm proud to have been from there, but I chose to leave. It's like they're a different kind of hero for choosing to stay, give up for those guys, bro, yeah. Actually, I have a question. I have a question. Yes. Wow, what kind of movie, book, or content do you think best represents your experience with the CIA or the CIA? It could be fiction or non-fiction, but so. Yes, it's a very good question, so in the book world there is a very dry reading called inside the CIA and it's one of those dry readings that is mandatory for every new candidate, so if you want to know what it's really like inside. the CIA read that the book inside the CIA was published like in the 9's.

I mean, um, so it was before 911 CIA, but it's still pretty accurate as to how it's been reformatted since then, right, um, like this That's what it is in terms of books and movies. In fact, I would recommend the first season. from The Americans, if you watch the first oneyou know, I mean, let's list them so you make sure you understand this, "be good because then maybe if we say enough, a guy has to listen to it, you know, it's mandatory." as a person and then we present to you a great day, what a wonderful day, so I'm a Chinese sympathizer, probably a Chinese sympathizer, you've heard it a couple of times and you're listening, so we'll touch on all those words right now.

I mean, the idea to me sounds so funny that there's a guy who has to listen to podcasts like Rogan surely has one, right? There's someone who has to listen to every ro, oh yeah, well, the reason why is so valuable is because The guests you have on the podcast have information about your network because they are connected to you correctly. They have information about the network that they carry with them because once they've been with you, they can basically trace it to see what your network is. is next, yes, and then you can see whether or not what they are talking about could be twisted into propaganda for a foreign country, you said that after 9/11, all government agencies share information, now, aliens, UFOs, real or No, so, there's a fantastic article that was written, I think, by the Wall Street Journal, the head of Arrow, which is the Department of Defense's UFO investigation.

Wing was a true scientist and engineer and he basically came out to say that there is no truth, there is no foundation, there is nothing about UFOs being real. My position on this matter is that UFOs are real but they are not extraterrestrials. H 98% of what happens in the sky we can rationalize and describe without problem, the 2% of what happens in the sky that we do not know should scare us a lot. more than it does because if it's not aliens it's us and there's something about us that we don't even know and that's scary and why it's scary because it could be an upcoming fleet of drones developed by what could be a hypersonic cruiser by China that could be some strange type of joint new thing that is being developed by Syria, Iran and North Korea and like it is being tested over Montana, so it's kind of scary when you take out the aliens, we want to find comfort. in Aliens because maybe they're here for good reasons once you say he's a bad guy there's no good reason for him to be there you mentioned something with UFOs and earthquakes like what was that so they're somehow correlated yeah, yeah, yeah, There is something called Earth lights that happen when certain gases are released by an earthquake and then they light up, they have translucent appearances in the sky, so a lot of times people will see lights in the sky that they can't define.

Ball lightning is one of that very rare phenomenon, another is these Earth lights, so when there is an earthquake that releases gas, it can create these Earth lights and that's why many times you see that in the West people see UFOs further west where there are more drop faults and there is a lot of seismic activity. I still believe that there are aliens and extraterrestrials. Yeah, I mean, there are weird people out there anyway, so China doesn't talk about dad like that. Anything else for Andrew before he gets out of here. No, this is amazing. um, oh, here's a question.

I have some personal interest in India, is that a threat to China is that it is an emerging superpower because they tell us that a lot, so I was actually wondering how close are you to your Indian ethnicity, your Indian family. or culture, I don't know enough. I have a lot of family in India. I try to come back here every year. I love India. I've been talking to my wife about maybe splitting time there when we have kids half the year in India. year somewhere else, so Shameless plug I want to go to India with you next time you go or one of the times you go, let's finish.

Yes, because I'm getting secrets from you for this, although I need you to know that it's a good trait. that's a good trait, this is the truth about India, uh, India has two of the best intelligence services in the world, one of them is the research and analysis wing, which is their overseas collection wing, the another is its inner ring wing, the problem is that no one knows. India's intelligence capabilities because 80% of its effort goes to Pakistan Pakistan also has a super powerful foreign intelligence collection called isi so ra aw and India, isi and Pakistan are spending almost all their resources and time on each other W uh India is, I was just talking about that today.

I think they are so powerfully pragmatic that they have found a way to be the ally of the United States and the ally of China and Russia, yes, while increasing their GDP, increasing their consumption and increasing their population, all three. things that contribute to a very stellar future, that's how India is doing it right now. India is doing everything right. Nobody really talks about them, except when the American press talks about them, they do it in a negative way, as if we can't trust India. they can't, they don't support us anymore and it's like no India supports India, yeah, which is exactly how a country is supposed to operate properly and as they become the manufacturing hub of the world, that will make all be much more.

It is up to them, but they will also encounter a challenge when they decide to modernize, but they can easily postpone that question for 20 or 30 years. I mean, the United States would be incentivized to really get closer to India, given its proximity to China, at least. I mean, I think all of them would be like China is eventually not going to make everything in the world and that happens to India. India wants to be China's best friend, hits her best friends with Russia and the United States, then perfect. Yeah, let it blow up, yeah, and not only that, but that makes Russia, Russia, China and the United States, Russia not really an economic player like China and the United States are, but now both China and the United States are incentivized to push production to India and try to lobby for tariffs against the other country, so that India is in a position where people basically say: we want you to have this business and we will pay you even more if you raise your tariffs, which which is I'm going to say yes to both, but they will change the tariff, so the steel tariff against the United States, the plastic tariff against China, wow, based on who pays the most for what.

Hello, okay, one more, now we have you. This is a military-industrial issue that we talked about a little before, but if we need the military-industrial complex, if we need war to get out of recessions economically, we need war. Part of that industrial complex is human capital. Do you believe that the United States keeps people in some state of well-being? desperation to fuel that war machine uh no, I don't think so. I think there's part of the reason why economic disparity persists and why we don't attack that economic disparity properly and I'm talking about things like average income in Alabama versus average income in New York, that's a huge economic disparity I guess that where most of their military recruits come from, Alabama, Texas, Arkansas, so part of the reason we don't prioritize fixing the economic disparity is because it's a convenience to things. like recruiting militarily um weI also have the benefit of knowing that it really only takes one genius to make a billion dollars in tech GDP or tech productivity, but it takes a lot of high school graduates to make $100,000, so there is a benefit, in terms of efficiency, that we can find and cultivate the most talented people in our country because, at the end of the day, they will have an exponentially greater economic impact than the less talented people, so we could not prioritize instead of focusing on attention medical and you know if your name tag says that Or they could focus on closing the economic divide, but that economic divide is too convenient for the way our structured system works, so I don't think they'll make it possible, but yes they allow it to happen to Aid somehow.

Yeah, okay, we mentioned the last one before. MK Ultra and Stargate, these programs have existed, do you know if they used them to eliminate RFK's father, so I don't know anything about RFK's father? Okay, but this is what I'll say, RFK Junior's father, so RFK, yeah. RFK, so what I will say is that I have had firsthand experience with remote viewing with what they claimed about the Stargate project and in every experience I have had with remote viewing, the end result cannot be separated from the margins of error that drive. back to the original start of remote viewing, so for those of you who don't know what remote viewing is, it's like we're all going to think of nothing and then I'll say a word and you start telling me what you associate with that word and I'll wait. that the word I'm going to prepare you with is associated with some piece of intelligence I'm trying to gather. somewhere else, so it's obviously something that's done with trained remote viewers, not something to do with the average person, so when everyone's sitting there thinking about nothing and I say orange, they start talking about ropes and chains and there's a person and there are three horses around that person and I see something in the mountains and I try to align that with the intelligence that says oh, this is happening in the Himalayas, this is how remote viewing is supposed to work, that's the Stargate project , was all I ever saw. with remote viewing you can't associate the result with the input which means it's unreliable and as far as I know there has never been a piece of actionable intelligence that has come from remote viewing so there may be information that Was it useful or not. that was helpful, but there sure wasn't anything that led to clear systematic confirmation that this tool works.

What about MK Ultra? MK Ultra was when they started using psychedelic drugs to try to unlock different parts of the brain, yes, again, to control people properly. to control people and unlock hidden cognitive abilities, so as far as I know none of the results were demonstrative of the information they put in, so they made MK Ultras, it's no secret that it happened, it was made with people who were both. Remote viewing always happened to people who were willing, but these are two CIA activities prior to 9/11 that were largely driven because our Cold War opponents were doing the same thing and this is a major disadvantage that everyone we have to accept.

As Americans, because we have personal freedoms and individual rights, any authoritarian country will always develop a weapon faster than us because they have fewer barriers and fewer obstacles to developing that weapon, so they can just take someone off the street and torture them to let him see If that torture technique works, they can just take someone off the street and fill them with drugs to see if they can read minutes where we have to have five forms and all kinds of approvals and, like a legal court of a lawyer, we are always we. We're always going to be slower, that's part of the power that our ancestors put into our democracy when we were talking about why we're so far ahead of everyone else.

Part of this is because we have to slow down. Sometimes slow is fast. Andrew, thank you. I thank you very much, it was fantastic, where can they find you? What can they see? Give us all the details. If anyone wants to know more about me or my company, they can go to Everydays Spy.com. I also have a link. in the description of this video below for people to follow, yes if you want to follow me on any social media, I'm a spy every day and I have my own podcast, it's on YouTube, Spotify and anywhere else you look for a podcast called everyday spy podcast. incredible friend, thank you very much, that was incredible, incredible, thank you, good luck with everything, I thank you for staying alive, peace.