60 Days In: Abner's Jail Journey | A&E

My name is Abner and I am an 18 year old ex-convict chaplain. I started with the Latin Kings. I spent around 14 years in prison. Abner, come on man, your mission will be to find out everything you can about the gang inside our facilities, so green, go see what ink you have, take off your shirt, yeah, I don't have abs, but I'm fine. At the age of 18, I received a charge for assault with a deadly weapon and that's when I started experiencing the gang. inside the prison system, so I started with the lantern kings, the ones you got shot at earlier, well yeah, it's a little souvenir, I have a couple, though I mean, with a crown on the back, I got five points for it to that bad boy, will that tattoo be related to Latin? no kings, okay, gold and black, yes, he doesn't have the right puppies, but the five points, the real one, is below.

The first time I committed a serial crime I was 16 years old and I knew what it was like to pick up a gun and see an adult fall to the ground I was a kid you were going to cross the street when you saw me you were absolutely going to cross the street when you saw me Coming after I got out of

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last time I started evaluating myself and I started to see what I could do to help people I became a certified chaplain and I serve other people. I am a little hesitant to go to the past and you know something is resurrecting from my past, even if it is a thought, a feeling, an emotion, my mother for years said that my son is good, I was not good, he was a savage but I'm not that person anymore, so one of the reasons I'm doing 60

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is to give back, but at the same time something could happen to make me relapse, that's what worries me. about this experiment, go ahead, turn around, put your hands on the hood of the car, I have completed five years of probation, it will be almost 10 years since I committed a crime, no violations, no contact with the police, nothing, I I left behind in my past hands around your back but I have to be that person once again I'm walking into intake you realize I'm a recluse I'm alone play it in the inbox here it's almost like deja Vu and it's like here Let's go again.

I'm going to take this and then as you walk, keep your hands back please, out in the open, left, right when I come in and here come the two Hispanic guys in my face. seconds I'm a Chicano I felt nervous like anxious man this is just a minute walking through the door you walk in white it doesn't matter what gang you belong to in the streets you're white if you come in black and if you're blood or whatever you're black and if you're Hispanic born in the United States I am automatically Chicano what you have a Warren from New York I can go flat 7 flat this is me I have been writing this thousand inmates island this is like candy as you know I have my bed made it is a custom when someone recognizes that you have position entering through the door is a form of respect I will make your bet in this pr uh so many years many times, yes, I have a problem, the ink says a lot about a person, no matter how much you try to hide it, the ink says a lot, yeah If they knew I was a lion king, I automatically become the threat in the unit because they know in The east coast lion kings run the show and I automatically knew that he holds the position, he's one of the heads and he looks at me and I measure, so now I'm on high alert, if this continues the way it's going, I might roll out of here in a body bag.

One of the savage blacks told me to cut his hair. I said yes, I don't want to cut it here. I'm decent enough. I'm going to cut my hand. I'm going to cut off his head. What you want to say is no, but then this young bishop tells me that black people will be next in front of everyone, disrespecting me, so I automatically called him and he said you're excited. Bishop realized very quickly when he saw that hey, I'm not here to play with you and he was left without a cell, very smart so he ran out to sell my mission is to know more about gangs and in the Pinal County Jail it is not the gang is the race I've been knowing Tyrus, because he leads the blacks, he could be useful in my mission, but at the end of the day he doesn't know my race, so now I had to focus on the Chicanos, so automatically his

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are counted, yes, if you vouch for him, If you're out of there too, it'll be one hell of a war, anyone who says they vouch for him on your point says he's a rat wherever this guy is.

I'm going to go talk to him right now and I'm going to go. to ask him face to face if I see something funny then I can judge, you know, I'm saying he was just angry about a situation where you have to enforce your policy, you're wood and one of your woods is no good and he has to go, I went there and talked to a friend and his story didn't match when he first came and I found out he wasn't a snitch, he wasn't right, but he let another race push him around and he did it.

You didn't fight back, oh he still had to leave and at the end of the day politics played out and you had to follow the order I gave you, you can't touch me, I'm royalty here, someone stole two sodas, one one day from Tyrus . and then another since I've been here, I've established an enforcer role in my own race, so I had to do what I have to do if you rob me, man, I don't care about anyone, I'm doing something dirty. Listen, let me, let me rephrase that for you, let me rephrase that, I'm going to beat the shit out of you, okay, and I want to draw you and leave you, I don't believe what any of them say, I'm a, did you steal? of that and stop lying brother, I was the one who had to pressure Robert because no one else could scare him into telling the truth, okay, I'm sorry, don't do it again, brother, I'm doing it to you.

Don't do it again, man, you can't steal here. He is wrong to steal and of course he got taken out. I can't let it go. Giovanni took it upon himself to start stealing. He could tell he was lying. Take it. in brother's room, maybe he is with the forest, you are not a forest, ikaika, being racially confused, jumping the fence back and forth is very dangerous, it will give you a label that you have no loyalty to anyone, uh . It's Ikaika, he needed a rude awakening, he was racially confused and that could get you killed. What happened to Ikaika?

I feel bad for him because he doesn't have a father figure in his life and I want him to go home and I want him to. leave this, you know, I look at him as my son, he's a teenager trapped in a man's world and that was me 25 years ago, you know, that kid hit me because he was put in a situation that I had to deal with. for someone who was no good and I'm not proud of the things I've become and the system has done this to me and that's why I'm doing this in 60 days um, that commitment?

You were the cover story for Abner Who Are You Brother, Trump though? Okay, could you explain to Bisha how you would have met Abner or that Abner could have been your boy? This is easy. I just said I've known him since the day we were from the east coast. This kite was. sent from 200 200 is right next to us and it was like bishop but b shark and I weren't friends the kite said hey tell amner uh your boy david said what's up I was feeling a little confused like I didn't understand what I was looking at what, what, what, this is weird because remember I don't know anyone here, that's my cover story, I broke the kite because here, if they find out I'm undercover, there will be 10 or 20 guys on top of you stomping on you until you stop You can move more, these people are ruthless and there will be no one who will leave, hey, the bishop is here, so Shaw came back to the 100, which made me nervous because he knows that I know David and that he is dangerous.

I just want to talk to him and see what he knows. I confirmed that David knows me. You are stupid? I don't know you. You are a relative. You are undercover. You just shamelessly ratted me out. I can not believe it. I know David was a cop like there was no excuse. Word spreads very fast, so now I have to listen to everything they say. You follow his lips. His words. This is real. This is a time bomb. Billy B. Shaw and Tyrus were in them. the room talking is two known enemies and a very strange wood as soon as I entered the room Tyra started acting very strange like oh man what is going on and I'm just kidding him but I just want to see where he is and what's going on.

What's going on? Man, do you feel like your car is locked? I wish I could be sure and say no, no, it's not melted, but it's not normal. I'm used to being in control. I could feel the change of tension in the place. I saw Billy standing in front of me signing to the other side and I know sign language. I'm looking at the letters he's using. He is waiting for confirmation and it is not his people because he did not say: "He said: look chicano, they are waiting." for a green light and I'm not stupid, I've been doing this for years so it was like it was no good, he was targeting me when something as serious as this happens it's almost like a trophy you know we have to rat him out.

Sleeping with one eye open because I didn't want someone to come by to attack me, so before that happens, you know it's like I'm going to explode, so this morning I raised a distress signal and when I left my cell. and I saw the other inmates already up and usually they're not up, that was confirmation that once I left that cell, you know, it's like they were waiting for the signal to attack immediately. I knew when they were in sign language. that it was time, so I was careful to stand by the door and make sure I could see the mirror and whoever came after me would cross one of the three visions.

Wow, I did my best, I did it, it was dangerous and last night it was guys. Saying you're done, David was the one who blew my cover, yeah, full blown, like you're stupid, yeah, you deliberately did what you did, David when he told B Shaw about me, sadly, he did what a cop does, The snitches broke my heart, no more orange. I practically succeeded in my mission because I know everything there is to know within the walls, but I gave the signal because I didn't want to put myself in danger. I think I got lost there and that was my fear of taking something from within. there that would trigger that criminal mentality again when I got home I thought I was strong enough to fight that fear as soon as I felt the army of the sun I felt the heat and uh automatically you feel life and something surreal when that son hit me that's the Un The moment that confirmed that I am no longer a criminal was when I knew that I had become a man of God again.