2024 Nissan GTR T-Spec vs The Cheapest Nissan GTR You Can Buy

Okay, thanks man, three stars pretty loud, kinda smelly. Jam, what took you so long seriously? We have the GTRs, you are ready to go to the canyon forever to get here. I was unlucky, it's Uber, it's a bit of a lottery, right? okay, wait a second, I forgot my sunglasses, sorry, you're looking at acceleration. I'm Thomas and I'm James, and this is the

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Nissan GTR, but why would you buy one when you can buy one of these, which is the exact same car? I'll be a little slower for a lot less money. The R35-generation Nissan GTR first hit North American roads in 2008 and nothing has been the same since a Nissan that can hit 60M an hour faster than a Lambo made supercar owners sweat.

V12 and for much less than $100,000, which was an all-wheel drive Godzilla that challenged the status quo and is now usable for what it cost new 15 years ago, actually yes, um, but even today, the This 2019 performance figures keep talking about new GTRs, they have since crossed a sacred line: the $100,000 line and this one, equipped with gold shoes and some other stylish parts, crosses that line with confidence, for what it's worth the worth buying new and old. One feels old now, let's find out and if you're new to the throttle, we do car reviews, track tests and a lot of hassle, so subscribe and play Bell James, yeah, is this the first time we've done an old versus? new episode where the cars are from the same generation, yes, very good, yes, I also think we have done old versus new episodes where the cars are closer in years and are from different generations.

Yes, this is the 16th model year of this generation. You could have had this as your dream car in high school and now you could be a father of two with a job for many years. You would be 30 years old and buy this new one to make your dreams come true. You see, um, okay, try it. on that, but before you do what you saw at the beginning, pilo sponsored this video, we've been using these non-stop, we'll have a discount code for you at the end, but until then, have fun, wear your pilots, I hear. Legend says they give you five more horsepower for every foot, yes, but I don't need 5 extra horsepower because I already have 565, that's a big jump from 2009 and yes, the modern GTR community is laughing at me right now saying, uh James.

I think you'll find it's three digits instead of four. I know, I know these are moderator heaven, but right now on this road this feels very fast and horsepower isn't the only thing the

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has besides its slightly revised face. 2024 celebrates the return of the t-

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version, which is a pretty hefty price jump considering it has the same power number the Bas GTR has had for years, but despite the additional 20,000 American smackaroos and almost 50,000 in Canada, it inherits a ton of Nismo goodies, like carbon ceramic brakes, as well as wider front fenders, Nismo Vehicle Dynamic Control, and gold versions of the Nismo's forged wheels.

Al also gets a bunch of other fancy things inside and out that we'll talk about in a minute too. It sounds good and a GTR R35 has always sounded good, it's always been a wave of induction sound and theater, but now it has an exciting exhaust on the upshift gearboxes, but then when you downshift that bark spreads and it goes away. comes back like an old man laughing it's like it's something fun, I like it, that means there's now theater in front of me and behind me, which is exactly what I want in a sports car and since it's all-wheel drive, there's power in front of me too. and behind me, the confidence you get from accelerating in a GTR is that up there there are also little lights in the gauge cluster that flash as I approach the red line.

It's very obvious when you drive a GTR that Nissan prioritized everything to do with power and performance and enjoyment, so yes, it's a bit compromised, it's a brute, the tires are translating a lot of noise into the cabin, the transmission still It makes strange sounds, that S suggests it's broken but it's not and in fact over time it's had updates this is much smoother. transmission from what I remember in the older GTRs, it doesn't make you noise around town, but from what I remember, when you're really dragging your ass, it's always been pretty quick in the shifts and this is no less true in the 2024, Also the ride is normally a point of criticism for the R35 GTR, but that too has had updates over the years, this in its harshest mode right now is not bone breaking on this same road with a McLaren Artura in career mode, it destroyed you, you couldn't, it was unsustainable. okay, it's just doing a great job of communicating to me what's under my feet, where that communication breaks down is the steering because while it feels sharp and precise, it just feels overdriven, it doesn't weigh much, even in the corners, is no longer there. to Grand Tory and this is a GTR.

It's a long-distance racer, so the steering there has lost a bit of the racing vibe. I don't have the same level of confidence in the corners. Everything else about the R35 GTR has improved. a lot of which is good because since it came out many sports cars have been released and for the price being asked it is not the only thing out there like the BMW M8 or the new Corvette Z6 or a 911, an AMG GT, a GT500 F Typar and Aston Martin, the list goes on and don't even get me started on the Nismo, which in Canada is the same price as a Ferrari, sorry my friend, but the most important thing is that this 2024 tpec is twice the price of a 2009 GTR anyway.

There's no doubt that this has become outrageously expensive, but if you zoom out, the GTRs as a whole are a bit crazy priced, these are the R32s for example, that's an ism, they're around 150 Grand, the r34s usually go beyond the 200 Grand, but if you go back even further in time, you come to this one that, depending on who you ask, is the coolest Uber of all time or the GTR that started the whole hakosuka and it almost reaches half a million, which makes this cost $60,000 a steel because you're getting quite a bit. Lots of performance, but these R35 GTRs have changed quite a bit over the years, when the R35 GTR first came out it was immediately different to any other Nissan.

We've all heard stories about how the 3.8L twin-turbo V6 engines were built in a hermetically sealed laboratory and how a million computer calculations every second kept it glued to the road, but even though those things remained true for Each model year, Nissan was constantly tweaking and changing the R35. Previous models had a clunkier transmission, less reliable launch control, and a cheaper interior. and a stiffer suspension and compared to the new one James is on and compared to the numbers we see in many modern cars, this first year 2009 only made 480 horsepower, but that doesn't feel slow at all.

I've always liked that engine I have. I always liked it I like the sound of it I like the way it feels like it explodes when it gets close to the red line oh it moves it really moves even after all these years it still impresses you we've driven some very cool cars rapid. I've driven some really fast cars and every time I go back to the GTR, old, new, whatever and you pull away in first gear, you almost forget to shift if you're shifting manually because first gear runs out so quickly and just puts it in the off, oh These are really fun cars to drive and I've had a strange relationship with the GTR over the years I've been around because it's been around for so long that I've gone through all the stages of liking, disliking, not caring.

They remind me that it exists and that it's still in production and I find that nowadays whenever I get into an R35 GTR I tend to enjoy it a little more, but you know, driving it right now, even by modern standards, it's not like that. It is a slow car and is an absolute weapon in the corners, but it takes the corners in its own way, it is responsible for generating grip and taking you out of the corner at full speed in a unique way, like that of a GTR, which nothing else seems to have. that feeling when Plus, you could accelerate blindly out of a corner in one of these and call it a GTR just by the way it shifts power from front to back, you just plant your foot and feel the car sort it all out for you. you.

I didn't used to do it. I like it a lot, but I'm enjoying it now because I'm enjoying what feels like a strangely analog mechanical connection to this car. I'm enjoying that I can tell what he's doing. Modern cars these days end up being mysteries that you don't know about. I don't know what it's doing, it solves so many things for you and you say: wow! I'm a great driver, this one is doing everything for me, but at least I can tell what it's doing and when, and compared to most modern cars and interestingly compared to the GTR we drove a few years ago, the steering on this It's pretty good, it increases the weight very naturally and I get comments, I like it and other than the fact that it constantly sounds like it's breaking because the transmission has performance. first, comfort, second, this is a strangely comfortable car to live in, it has decent road isolation, good driving position, good sound system and then you hit a road like this and it can generate so much performance, GeForce and speed that will make your brain before we meet to talk about the style, James and I had a little test in each other's cars and we both found that one thing was quite different, since Morfia said something, things never change and some things talk about the address, yes, the address.

It's one of the sure things, yes, yes, yes, otherwise, for the most part they feel the same, it's a little faster and whatever the handling is, it's a little more flexible, but the steering is so numb, In reality, people gave us hard work. time we complained about the direction in the remake of this a couple years ago and I like it to the point where I thought it was a fluke yeah a lot of the updates to this are quality of life updates yeah , but that means this is still a more attractive car. This is a significantly more attractive car at the front, e

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ially well.

The owner of this one has made some quality of life updates. I see my large iPad quite well. Saw. I saw the well. No, wait. pretty cool because it's an iPad it's because it has things that you don't normally like having an iPad sitting on something no, but it's not sitting on it it's beautifully integrated okay yeah either way it's an admission that the GTR needs some updates in some and here is one that has also been made, yes you see how easy it is to bid Bobby Boop and it is a new GTR, but what do you have?

What do you have? Does not come in spec-exclusive Millennium Jade paint. It's fantastic, isn't it? wonderful from every angle, absolutely no orange pills glare in the sun and that's one of the two colors for the spec, also that's what you would do with a paint like that, yeah yeah the owners totally kicked this out because that It's what you want to do. want to protect the special edition, it also comes with midnight purple. I like the midnight purple which is a lot of fun honestly, but it looks really, really, really cool honestly, gold wheels, carbon fiber spoiler, gold on the engine, yes this one is signed by Mr GTR. he himself is very very cool and the wheels look cool and this has bigger brakes than that and its carbon ceramics and they're yellow, oh actually wait mine are gold what's up?

The wheels are gold on this, although it's fine, it's fair and this has been Quite controversial people haven't liked it the only thing I feel like they ever changed with the GTR is the front slightly every time it happens to people from GTR like wait a minute, I just need a minute, this now looks like an upgrade from an R34 more than the R35 I've had, it actually works in person. I think the GTR has always been, still is and always will be an impressive looking car, it's not beautiful, no, it's muscular, yes muscular, and when you see one on the road I still get excited.

I'm like that size, a GT, it's cool, but what's beautiful now is philosophically not, like inner beauty. I know what is beautiful. Yes, I don't know anymore, but I do know that the updates. to this inside there is a big step forward in this great good, get on this, okay and take a good look at what 60 Grand offers you. This is clean, it's clean, very clean, I mean listen it's a little aged in some areas, yeah it's simple, the steering wheel is a little shiny even though there aren't many miles on this car, miles and ya You know, there's some kind of scratchy hard plastic in there, but otherwise some of the materials are nice, like some of the soft ones.

Le touches, the door is surprisingly very comfortable, yes, isn't it nice? Yes, the seats are comfortable, the headliner isn't too fancy, and I think the headliner and the new one are pretty fancy for the fiscal year, but I don't want to dwell on that. This is too much because alreadyWe talked about it and this is not representative of what you would get if you bought one for 60 or 70 thousand dollars. This greatly modernizes the interior. Yes, they have TR. What do we say when we rest? Time modifications. that we just need carplay car security and security without security, you know, a little security, a little security, so this is a rest time, this becomes a rest mod because it is better than most of the OEM, much better than the new Nissan, so what to do? you get here, this is where originally you would have things like Airon and then up here there would be a separate screen that has all the GTR related things, but now all the weather is integrated here, right? how different the gauge cluster is still analog in the new one, it's exactly the same except for the fact that this little bit down here is orange in the first ones and it's blue in the later ones, right, wow, modern, yes, they modernized it.

They have been very proud of themselves after that. Okay, I think this For the money, it doesn't feel like you're getting something special, that was a double negative I think, and we didn't need this to feel like you're getting something special for the money, well, we talked about that , it was not so. us, it's a kind of M2 price, the new M2 is an M2 price, yes, let's see the new one, which costs how much, how much this depends, remind me, if you include the dealer's profit margin, well, if not you do it, what is 140? $140,000. the te Spec has special things, let's see how special it is, yes it is quite special, I will say it has the stitching on the roof here, yes this is all soaped up on my green leather.

I love green, in fact, we have green on the bottom of the steering wheel top of the steering wheel the seats are green, we have green leather on the doors, yeah, and it's like a green and gold accent. The stitching is just stunning and this is obviously the new generation steering wheel which, as we found out, goes together with the new generation steering unfortunately, but the steering wheel is great, it's fantastic, yes, and we have Alcantara everywhere, yes, No, it really feels very overpowered here, you know what I mean? Yeah, it reminds me of the R8, this kind of stuff like especially that one.

R8 denium if you consider it a special edition, yes, yes, it is a little cheaper than that, it is true, it is a V10, but it was a fighter if it is a GTR fighter, all this like an all-wheel drive accelerator, yes. See, the thing is, the old GTR feels much more like an economy car with lots of power destined to take down the Giants. It has that atmosphere that it has. I am a giant. Look, how elegant I am. I am very. quick, it's not a technical marvel, no, well, I mean, the transmission is, but look at that, yeah, the reversing camera is terrible, it's really bad, yeah, this is a 2024 vehicle.

I don't need the dash digital, this is a great Dash, it's a great Dash, there's nothing wrong with it. that, but just this like the fact that that one has a more modern system because it was made aftermarket, like I feel silly being on mod one and being like oh right, this is what we're coming from, okay, yeah, no. , this is interesting, interesting. video actually very because I can see this purchase from the perspective that I bought something that is like a special edition. You know, you could argue that maybe it will hold its value differently than a non-special edition.

True, it's weirder, it's really cool. It's new, it has a full warranty and since they made it, there have been a ton of improvements in durability and it's all quality of life and just improvements, yeah, well, and the transmission too like the ones that used to have pure drive gears, right? ? I don't do that anymore and you know there is the Nismo version, which is even more expensive, faster and crazier, but I think this is the most livable spec. When we drove that Nismo, you know the new Nismo has been updated even more, but the old one.

Nism that we drive hits you hits you really yeah this is much more like a 100% it's I don't know I think 10 15 20 years from now when you get into this you'll leave to enjoy the fact that they made it a place more pleasant to be in. I think you're right. I totally understand buying a new one of these, especially if you have a really unique spec like this, but I think that's exactly what I would do. that I would buy an old one, buy one and put the new infotainment system in it. Yes, there is not much you have to change.

No, that would be my choice. How about you assume I have to pretend that all the other sports cars don't? I exist and I choose a GTR of this generation. I do the newer GTR that has good steering whatever the year and I hope that means it lasts longer and has suspension adjustments but also has maximum driver involvement but considering the 16 year age gap it's quite It's shocking how different the new GTR is. At this point we'd wax lyrical as we try to decide if the new one still has the soul of the old one despite its significant updates etc, but these are almost exactly the same car which probably explains why the old one has held its value so well. .

The GTR experience is not for everyone, but it is for those who want to own this thing that is a physical manifestation of Japanese performance engineering. Well, at least you have a great group to choose from. and thanks to pelote for supporting this video, as Thomas mentioned above, we have a discount code for you for a special holiday promotion. If you visit pti.com and use the code throttle 20, you'll get 20% off your purchases next time. week and that's site-wide, so it includes the shoes Thomas and I have been wearing constantly. I've been moving the shifts on choke and Thomas has been using the drifts on cognac, so code throttle 20 for 20% off, we've got it good now, Sho James.

We're not going to end the GTR video with a shoe pun. Yes, no, you are right. I just thought it would be fun. No, we don't have to keep that in the edit.