2021 Mustang Mach 1 vs BMW M2 CS vs Honda Civic Type R LE // Battle Of The Special Editions

you're looking at the throttle house i'm thomas and i'm james and this is the

mustang

mark 1. and this is the

civic

type

r limited edition i don't know what you're thinking did you see the cars in the miniature don't worry, there's a lot more to come, So sit back, relax, have a cup of tea, have a soft drink, stream it to your 70 inch vid screen rent a movie theater, we know you're a classy bunch, these are the

special

editions

after all. I deserve it, I love the throttle, okay, the Mustang Mach 1. People say it's just a Mustang Bullet with a track package, so it's amazing because the Mustang GT on its own is a fantastic car, but adds the Bullet's upgraded engine and oil. cooler subframes, bushings in the transmission from the gt350, the rear axle cooling system, some suspension components and diffuser from the gt500, and you get the most track capable non-Shelby

mustang

that Ford has ever produced or for the Same price, although it shouldn't be the same.

The price, but because the dealers are marked, it is now the same price as the brand, almost the same as the m2, it is ridiculous, there is this and it is more than just its Ronald McDonald paint scheme, in fact, It looks like the reverse of the fries in a bag emoji, but that doesn't matter because the Civic Type R is the best hot hatch on sale. Now there are hot hatches that are easier to live with and there are hot hatches that make more power, but none provide the sheer bravado of the Civic Type R.

This limited edition is one of 1,020 examples worldwide and one of only one hundred Canadian examples. which sold out in just four minutes when the order form was posted months ago and, like the mark 1, is also adorned with a numbered plate and those that are not. They didn't hide it in a garage to make money, in 20 years they will be able to enjoy its track-focused improvements that we will put to the test in a minute so that it doesn't get extra power or all-wheel drive. drive and still have all the fake vents but when the 306 horsepower from a 2 liter four cylinder wasn't enough because thanks to the limited slip differential and just the setup of this car in general and I know there are a lot of people What do you think It should be all-wheel drive, no, no, it's as fun as a front-wheel drive car and compared to that mustang, this is a lighter four-wheel-drive wagon and since we're not driving it to the limit on the track, we still I can reach Use it because that power is not absurd.

I can use everything. I'm shifting with this new shifter that came out in 2020 that has a different weight, more like the s2k shifter, which is awesome. I have the alcantara steering wheel, ah. Also the engine made the lights flash, it's just a riot at almost any speed and then if you decide to take it to the track it comes to life again and since this is the file I hope that's the case. one step up, so the Type R is obviously a great weapon, but it's here taking on a beast of a mustang, but what matters to me is that this is still fundamentally a mustang, they haven't ruined it by making it too tracked. specific, meaning the ride in comfort mode is still smooth, the seats are comfortable, the visibility is excellent, you can ride in this car, but from a performance perspective, 480 horsepower really is spectacular and the coyote engine sounds As good as ever, he roars. and it whines and revs very high, its a fantastic thing and it has the tremec six speed which is different than the normal mustang gt and honestly its something worth considering upgrading because its really good, you can change gears. there's also no lift shift, which I mean, any car technically doesn't have lift shift if you just know how to lift and shift, but this one actually modulates for you, so you keep your right foot on the accelerator, you press the clutch, hit the next gear, it's like that.

Great experience, it's like a shot of testosterone every time you step into the next gear, which says the rest of this car feels like a mustang to me, the difference between the steering and this and a gt500 is noticeable, this one has that rubbery texture. False, numb front feel in the center and it has to be said that the gt500 is a completely different feeling card to this one in the chassis, but that's the point because it's supposed to close the gap between the gt and shelby models, the thing is This one doesn't look like much more than a Mustang GT to me on the road and unless you're obsessed with the Mach 1 nameplate, I don't think I'd bother buying one of these, e

special

ly for the price, unless you plan on taking it to the track because this one has the handling package, yeah that thing looks as good as it sounds, it's really cool, yeah are you ready for the track?

No, no, why not. Because Ford Canada said under no circumstances and without exceptions. Are you allowed to watch a track? A race track. No burns. No high performance driving of any kind. yeah, the one that's literally built from the ground up to be a cup two track car, yeah, the wheels, the down arrow, the aerodynamics, yeah, no, that's ridiculous, yeah, it is, but even, what? and did you explain to them that we replaced the tires? and we have insurance and we have a private track, only there are no experienced drivers and no zero, what about all the mustangs we have tracked before?

No, that's just all the kindness of the owners, right, Ford Canada said this track car can never see the track. Okay, but it's okay because I brought something else. Ok, this may not have the amazing engine that the Mustang has, but it has everything else and that's because it's the m2cs, the third special edition of the day, it's the final and best version of an already great. Car fully upholstered in carbon fiber and aerobits upgraded to 444 horsepower, mounted on Sticky Cup 2 tires and with adaptive dampers, the M2CS is a perfect example of what the best BMW M can be, which means that, in comparison with the M2 competition and the M2, the original that I have tracked this is the best possible version of the best possible car every detail of this car on the track is absolutely perfect when cornering and creates g forces at the front that are absolutely incredible, the rear breaks in such a predictable way with the m differential and although we are in cup two and the grip limits are higher, the characteristics of the m2 are still there, it breaks more aggressively than the m4, but it is a very little thing fun. have quick hands and feet and she's just a girl, she's growling, she's angry, I love her so much, but with this new suspension, this new damping setup, the adaptive dampers, this car has a level of poise that it's never had before, I am able to carry. speed in and out of corners that goes far beyond just two small sets, it's just incredible, the only way you can take it off is by accelerating, the front never goes alone here, coming out of a corner just a little exuberantly and the part rear goes, you can turn the car perfectly around the apex, put the rear tires on the exit, braking, take off to the next straight, it's easily the funniest, sleaziest sports car I think I've ever driven and that's saying a lot.

I've driven the alligator the alligator is more serious than this one he does the same things as the alligator but with a big fucking smile on his face but the thing is the soul the heart of the m2 is still there it's still what it is the word will get you If you're not ready once you throw it into a higher speed corner you just have to be on it you really do did I screw up that drift exit? yeah it matters not because I'm having fun, look at my hair, look at this, this hair is having as much fun as I am, I just can't stop doing this so I know I'm being an idiot and sliding the car because it's the coolest car fun of all time, but I want you to know that the improvements that have been made to the M2CS, be it aerodynamics, weight reduction and tire damping, make it objectively better as a lap time car.

I already know it will be faster than the competition's m2, but the question is how well our plus mode or plus mode r says arm plus. I've always found it strange what it would be like if we created a second youtube channel and then called it extra accelerator instead of extra accelerator pushing

type

. Now this obviously benefits from all the changes that 2020 received, so all the suspension and shifter improvements and the folks at Honda aren't playing the numbers in terms of power, they understand that when it comes of speed on the track, the weight savings are just As if it weren't more important, it's 50 pounds lighter than the regular Civic Type R and a little more than half of that comes from the fact that they removed the sound editing materials around of the cabin and the other half is in the wheels and tires. with michelin cup two tires in fact all the cars today have phenomenal grip on the track tires and more importantly they have forged bbs wheels which are the big difference there and that is the unsprung weight , so that is the weight that is not on top of the suspension.

As a result, we should have an even more ridiculously precise front-wheel drive weapon, but I will say that we are on a bumpy track and the suspension changes and this has special software for the model, so even if you modified your normal Type R to changing the wheels to these you wouldn't be able to benefit from the software and Honda has said you can't buy the software either unless you're on file but that's why it's pretty stiff and when I say pretty stiff I mean it's very stiff you might You can see me bouncing all over the place and realizing how much weight I've gained in coving because my boobs are moving, but that's actually a disadvantage on the track because, first of all, there's a little bit of understeer because the chassis is so stiff. , but I also can't reduce the power in our plus mode with the traction control completely off.

I can't get enough traction to keep the power down like I normally do. in a normal type r and then in sport plus mode, which doesn't allow you to turn off the traction control completely, it limits my power every time we crash, so even though it's absolute chaos on the track, you can drive at the limit without Feeling like you're going to commit suicide I'm worried about the lap time Thomas because all of that is going to work against you This isn't it Don't you hear that accelerator moving like that That's my foot on the ground than in a normal Type R?

I can't make any trouble, but it's not exciting, so my hopes for a crazy lap time that can match the m2cs might be dashed. Good time for lap times, as always, the rules are one warm-up lap and three fast laps only in each car and this. it's filmed at the beginning of the day when the tires are still fresh now the m2's fastest lap i wasn't kidding when i said this car was really good in the first place bmw seems to be lying about their horsepower numbers again because of the speed the speed of this thing in a straight line is immense, almost 20 kilometers per hour faster on the straight than the m2 comp and with the cup 2 tires and the new damping, this car felt perfectly at home on our track, soaked up all the bumps and kept going. speeding up. the ground I drive with all systems off and it is very easy to drive this car in the corner with the accelerator, if you have the courage you can really drive it and then fix it with the steering and the accelerator, it is a pleasure to drive and I realized it immediately It felt significantly faster than the M2 competition on our track.

Let's look at the rest of the lap, we'll wait until the end to see the times, but here you can see that after only three laps without the ceramic brakes, this happened. The dead bricks died well, now for the fastest lap of the rle type. James was very correct in his assessment of this car's track. It's still an amazing front-wheel drive car, but the new damping software made it very difficult to keep the power to the ground. and when I tried different damper settings the stability control was too intrusive so plus our mode achieved the fastest lap time even though I was being shaken to death next was the understeer as James mentioned it didn't It feels like the original Type R.

A few years ago we discovered that you could draw a perfect arc through these curves with a little controllable slip angle, the LED would go straight on balance, accelerate without accelerating or brake on track, making it very difficult to place it precisely on the clue. But it's in Cup Two so I was hoping it could close the gap to the M2 because in our original track test of the M2 versus the Type R a few years ago, they were only a second away. Let's look around and find out. Alright. funny, I have news, funny, what a day, what a lineup, this is a crazy mix of cars right, but all the special

editions

, all the top twos, all the cup twos and you'll probably have to buy them for more than they say they yeah and the

mach

what a set lap time oh just legend like you can't be better than zero that's the fastest it's literally technically the fastest timepossible I had to do it I really have a lot of love for this car it's great so easy just look at it though I love it I love the way it looks that's it well some people are upset because the brand has been around for a long time or you know it's supposed to have a shaking hood, right, yes, it has it, it doesn't. people just say it's stickers and an extra price but in terms of road presence it's pretty fantastic and very easy to live with comfortable very soft I love it speaking of cushioning yeah um so as you know Looking from the sidelines, it seems to be a big part of today, that's a bit of a problem with this as I'm about to explain lap time.

Okay, should we move up the leaderboard? So yeah, I'll show it on my phone. Okay, not just on Tinder because well, I don't know. if you know but we can't see the leaderboard floating in the sky did you know I actually can that's the oh that's actually okay so we edit it so it's here okay so so the type r uh, this is the normal type r, what? Did you do this before the 2020 updates, by the way? 114 one, it did fourteen eighty one, okay, in a respectable time, so this with the cup two, some suspension upgrades should be significantly faster, you would think about it well, significantly, yes, yes, but as you felt that There are some compromises and trades, yes, very lively fights to reduce the power, okay, it did it and I swear to God, I checked the pressures, everything went perfect on this lap, this was the most time I could extract from this car 114 .6 114.6, okay, so Oh, so a little faster, yeah, a little faster, but I should have done better.

I think the problem was that they built and tuned this car like it was an advertising sun to set a lap record at Suzuka, but not our track. Get this car right, it was too stiff, yeah it's a bumpy track and you already explained the traction control thing and you can't turn it off completely and there's no compromise. I'm curious, so Thomas because that makes me wonder what a normal Type R could do two by two on our track. Yes, exactly, this is a small and very demanding circuit that we have here. Yes, it's quite old and has some potholes, so it's like a tighter mini Nurburgring.

Okay, but yeah, it's very unfortunate timing. I really wish it would do more than that. What's up with this guy? Because the m2 comp was one of the first cars to grace our track. Yes, this is disappointing too. It's disappointing. Yes, no, I like it. Disappointing because I don't have one, huh, yeah right, what's the c8 corvette's time on the leaderboard? Look, well, that's way above the competition m2, it could be there, yeah, I think that's okay, it's there, it's one eleven fifty-three. ok, next question, what is the camaro zl1 1 time? I don't know where you're going with this 11 12. ah, okay, and those are irrelevant because he made a 113 no no, he made a 1 10 35 1 10 35 yes James, I made a 1 thirty-five.

I'm not making it clear. You can go back and stop watching the video if you really want why the full lap is in the video. I'm not making it up. I'm not manipulating. I don't understand it, I understand it because I drove it and it is, yes, without a doubt, by far the best sports car in the world right now, this is ridiculous, it's a ridiculous statement like, yes, obviously, like the alligator and all of that, even the speed limits he loves it yeah, okay, yeah, um, when you consider all the things in terms of livability, the fact that there's a back seat, the fact that it has everything cool, it looks incredible and it makes a moment like that, it means It's an absolutely amazing car, sensationally perfect, it's an amazing moment, it's an amazing moment, James like me, so I'm just as impressed as if I saw it at that moment.

I thought that can't be right, um, you. you're a bastard you're a bastard I tell you why you're standing between three cars yeah you're marked right now yeah and all you're doing is saying how good this is you're not helping anyone I'm not helping me because I want one of these no, honestly, it was like for our track, okay, the camaro zl1, yeah, everyone is going to say what the hell, how can it be faster because it has 650 horsepower and 650 lb-ft? Yeah, it doesn't make any sense. However, it does because that camaro on our track was very stiff, very stiff, it was in a stiff configuration to be fair, so a camaro in a proper configuration like the one marked for our track, yes, we'll crush this, but the camaro just couldn't get the power down the way it could with the new shocks on this cup two it's a little lower center of gravity more power all added up and the fact that it's a short wheelbase we have a lot of tight corners yeah, everything added up being like that, it might as well have been built for that track, it's so perfect to drive around here, I just navigated every corner, the gearing was perfect, everything was absolutely aligned to be the fastest in case we did a push for a crowd funding source. thing for Thomas no, I would never ask you, so my answer to these three yes is a gt350r, yes exactly, so I really like it, yes this is quite premium, yes, but you can't, they are no longer making the gt350r.

It's a shame, it's a shame, but I also mean a mockery, yes, of these three cars, although even if it were a gt350r standing in front of me, this is the option, it's just that it's an amazing

mach

ine and I really don't do. I don't think BMW is going to top this with the next m2 yeah, they just aren't going to be able to do it, it's just impossible, all this is for a third of the price,

civic

type normal bar, civic type r normal, great fun, great car. really cool cars, really cool cars though, great day, lots of fun, um, yeah, we have to wait, we don't plan an ending, oh, let's do some hot laps to mark one, oh no, we can't, oh, yeah, oh Yes, but maybe one day.

We will if a local Mark One owner contacts us, which we hope happens because it should definitely have a pretty impressive time, but until then, Thomas and I hit up our aforementioned misnamed extra acceleration channel to talk about the Mustang Mark 1. Also, there is a video coming soon, so make sure you are subscribed there too to watch it for now. Today's crown and one you have to pay handsomely for goes to m2cs. It's really cool, the new m4 is fun. to drive don't get me wrong but the m2cs is the complete package, dazzling performance and endless smiles, it's a car you really get excited to be next to, as for the type r le, it has all the hallmarks of the ultimate track type r , but not On our track, it may not have been assigned a higher value yet and is on the verge of becoming a collector's item, but if you're just looking for the Civic Type R experience, you won't be missing much if you get the Normal Type R and you like it. the other cars today, there will be a whole new generation in the near future, it's all very exciting and thanks to michelin canada for generously donating tires for the day, thanks for watching.