2020 C8 Corvette Z51 vs Mustang Shelby GT500 // DRAG RACE, ROLL RACE & LAP TIMES

You are seeing how the throttle works and this is a track test, welcome to the throttle house test track, our own corner of the earth where we can do

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s and set lap

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. I'm Thomas and I'm James and these are two of the newest American cars this year and you might not think this makes much sense except this is the Shelby

gt500

without the carbon fiber track package so not only are they about the same price but they also have the exact same tire, the Shelby

gt500

or as Car

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Shelby himself said when he made the original, the first real car that he was really proud of and after getting behind the wheel of one in its third and newest generation, it's easy to imagine why Ford Performance has put everything it has into it. a 760 horsepower supercharged Magneride suspension, massive 16.5-inch 2-piece rotor brakes, and while this one doesn't have the full carbon fiber track package like the one we drove in California, it has the handling package a lot Cheaper than $1,500 gets you one just above the top frame supports and a stretcher flap spoiler added, today's example is a racing-striped fortress of power and control that recognizes few equals.

This is the new Corvette c8, a completely redesigned and reworked American sports car with an exotic and GT500-like touch. It's slightly upgraded from the base model with a package called the Z51, which means it not only has five extra horsepower and an upgraded suspension, but it also has an electronic differential, which means it does it without a hitch, but we'll get to it. To that later, the important thing is that both cars use new Michelin Pilot Sport tires and, although the Corvette has a little less power with 495 horsepower, all the other variables today are the same, so both the

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of endurance like lap

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should be very interesting, let's do it, car reviews and Quite a few messages have come out, so subscribe, ring the bell.

Well, I'm finally on c8. James continued to steal this car. It's my turn to win. I think we'll find out. I guess it's true. Actually, I'm reasonably sure it's the only one. What worries me is that I have half a tank of fuel and I'm not sure if it will still have any left when I get to the end of the quarter mile because no car drinks its fuel like the GT500 they make. it's almost unusable ok so shuttle come on gt500 you're kidding ok but not soon enough. Oh, I was close. Wow, all those brakes while you brake.

Oh, the biggest domestic sports coupe you can buy. I had a difficult launch. yeah, it was all over the place, funnily enough, I was coming at you so hard I didn't feel like it, but you can't feel anything, you're numb to the world, you've been around since '95, why not, let's just make another ring, okay? ? eliminate the traction advantage for Thomas and make a very

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ing race. I'm not so sure Corvettes have become awesome. Giri, the predator, has spoken. The snake has met the horse and it is a victory. Stop smiling. Wipe that smile off your face.

Let's go to the track. to the truck last time we were at the track in this car Thomas was driving it but now it's my turn and yes the c8 takes this car from a dig at the track but that launch control has no power they call it here Stormcrow and, unlike that Italian imitator. What Thomas is in this is all Mustang and in its ultimate form because it's not just a Mustang GT with a supercharger on top, it's much more: first of all, under the hood is a 5.2-liter aluminum alloy supercharger made by hand. and designated predator intercooler, but perhaps most importantly it has an extensively revised setup which even compared to the GT 350 gives it a new electronic power steering unit and for the suspension it has lighter coil springs front and rear, that's very easy, okay, so this thing is a A working class man in a faux Italian suit says Dolce and banana on the side some of the best things are when Italians and Americans get together Leonardo DiCaprio Al Pacino spaghetti and meatballs, but you didn't know it wasn't an All Italian Now, before I got into this car on the track, many of you saw our road test where we showed the understeer pretty horrible.

Said understeer, well this c8 is in a factory track alignment setup, every Corvette or every In fact the car comes with an alignment spec, meaning they set the car up a certain way so that these tires are biased toward in, angled out, in or out, but the Corvette has two configurations and has a street alignment. and a track alignment that means these front tires in the track alignment spec they're on now have negative three degrees of camber, that's a lot, but it's not just the front that's changed, the front and back rear have changed almost the same, so it should add more grip.

But does the handling change now? All mid-engined cars push through the corners, which means they understeer in the middle of the corner and put the weights on the rear, so when you accelerate the front starts to walk a little bit and honestly, I had driven one. of these on the track before in the track lineup and I wasn't really impressed, but for some reason today in this car I'm absolutely impressed, but before we get to the handling, let's talk about the rest of the car, as you know it. It's mid engine, weights behind me, so when I hit the throttle it just locks in coming out of a corner and has a really effective engine, just a proper Corvette v8.

I really get along with this transmission that likes it short. I like that I have to use the paddles a lot to enjoy it, the shifts are very quick and today is all about lap times so I'm grateful for that and this one has the incredibly smooth 7 speed shifting and it's phenomenal. You can shift in the corners and it doesn't even upset the balance of the car. Look how fast these changes are. It has an electro-hydraulic shifting mechanism that uses low-power single solenoids and if someone can explain it to me well, that means I will. Being here for a week, I'm pretty sure that means it changes nicely.

The thing is a lot of people have said that on the road alignment anyway the reason it understeers is for safety that doesn't matter because the c7 was an absolute wild card especially when you go zero six levels with oversteer with one blow of the throttle and even in Legrand's sporty form it would oversteer like crazy on corner entry, so that's not the reason, the reason was like I think when they first did it. I started developing this car, the previous versions we drove just weren't quite up to it, but for some reason today in this weather on this track with this blue Corvette, this is one of the best handling cars I've ever driven, plus it has a tendency to bite you if you pass a certain point is what doesn't work and I want to rotate it.

I just turn a little more and use the weight of the engine and the differential doing its job, reverse, second gear, go this way. So what people accuse of being a Boomer Cruiser in the truck lineup is simply not second gear, throw it away, so this slides. I do the event as if I just discovered that you can do it in that, which maybe is true, but after all, this is a Mustang. yes, it drifts and makes a better sound than that cool one. I just saw James do a great slide on the gt500 when I met him.

He was a little guy, that's me out of it. Look, we just drifted in a 760 horsepower American pony car. A little bit of understanding that there is such enormous power that you can just oversteer it the moment you touch the accelerator, so it looks like a muscle car, but on the track, folks, the sports car's steering feels progressive and the car It goes by like a muscle car. which is true to its nature, but it grips prodigiously and you can just plant it in a corner. Now the cup two on the carbon fiber package gives it amazing grip but these ps4 are amazing the steering for me is a drawback because while the weight is good and it's really precise there isn't much feedback so which is a little hard to know exactly where the wheels are pointing, but as I'm figuring it out, no problem, come through here, go up the stairs, it's super easy and the suspension is very compliant.

I think this is going to be one of the fastest cars I've ever driven on this track. The only big problem I have with it still no matter what you say, yes, right now, on the track alignment, it turns smoothly, as expected, it's lovely front end. -The final grip is exactly where I want it to be, but the thing is that we have three degrees of negative camber in the front, which is like a really aggressive setup, so something else needs to be changed to be able to have a reasonable amount negative camber. Camber in the front so you can drive the car every day and then hit the track.

I may be lining up every time because you are going to wear out the inside of your tires very quickly on the road. I can't wait to see what happens on the Hall knobs because yes, the Corvette is more of a sports car than this one, but it has power, it has grip, and it has incredible cornering. I really think it's going to be close and I'm not kidding and the time I've been talking about. For you, I have lost 60 kilometers. Okay, time for hot laps. Now Thomas is going to do this with a true time attack, which means he will only have five laps and the first will be a warm-up lap followed by three fast laps. and then a cool down lap and that's all he has.

Well, let's look at the Corvette first. If you watch corner entry, you can hear that slight quiver of mid-engine understeer, followed by a creeping oversteer movement that makes the Corvette really easy to carry speed through corners and adjust slip. If you combine that with the fact that oversteer and launch are smooth and progressive and the suspension really lets the power hit the pavement, you end up with a car that is very fast. On a tight track like ours, also if you're wondering why I'm so active on the wheel, it's because there isn't much feel from the front, so I'm constantly trying to figure out the crypt levels of the front tires.

Let's look at the lap now, if you know our leaderboard, which we'll go up in a second, you'll already know that the CA set a very fast time, but let's look at the GT500. Now this car is a different beast, it makes monstrous power. straights but is less delicate in the corners this car was also set up by the dealer for track driving the gt500 turns incredibly well but without cup it is in the front and at times it had trouble finding fun grip at the limit as you can hear me express here Come on, try to get some advantage on him, come on, it's also a complete job around the narrow track like this, it's like hanging off the back of an angry grizzly bear, it's fantastic, let's see the rest of them so fast in a straight line . oh my god, come on, let it go, let it go, yeah, good start, okay, we've reached that part of the day where it's time to find out what the lap times were like.

I have been overwhelmed with this information all day and I have been and have been worried because there is no result that will not surprise me. I have no idea what's going to happen. All I can promise you is true. It feels like a crazy sports car that's basically a supercar on the verge of that, and then this is just a 760 horsepower Hammer that's exactly what's incredibly cool no, it's bouncy, it's a bounce or a track, yeah , this is a bit difficult, the ride is crazy, do you remember me on the zl1 anyway? Yeah, kids are dying, sorry, first of all, misery, okay? here we go, okay, okay, I'm going to put in last season, remember last season, a little different from this season, the track is different, this year it's green, whatever it is, so the times can't match perfectly , but I am going to put the classification table from last season.

Up here the fastest car we've ever had was the Camaro zl1 1le and that wasn't a 300 3r supercar basically the cup is coming yeah and this is not in the cup okay okay and that was what it was. a bass 111 is fine 111 12 I think it's up there, the people watching know better than me now here we go gt500 one 1182 oh okay that's still incredibly awesome ps4s is yeah one drink two I'm very calm with this, okay, okay. the Corvette did a 111 fifty three oh okay how crazy is that regarding the crazy club that's amazing what a transformation from our street review Oh completely on the track alignment I mean I have to say it again that this camber setting won't be good for everyday driving, you're going to run on a very fast tire, but here at our track it's like adancer, just dance on the curves.

Congratulations, you just made such a feminine column. I looked so pretty. a nice mid-engined car and now the front is nice and let me guess this is blue too anyway, bright day, incredulous Michael. I can't believe how close these cars are when we came to this with no idea they were going to be like this. close and I'm very happy that victory is for the heart, baby, which one would you take home by the way? Know? What if he can't get home without filling it three times? That's a problem, so stop that. reason why I didn't mention that, so I said it, but there's just oh, would you be okay, yeah, yeah, that's fair, yeah, say it, it's too easy for everyone, don't do it in this, guess what, bloody brilliant.