¿Y la felicidad qué? - Roberto y Farid #7

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how are you very well robert I like to scare here against another episode and another episode of cheap philosophy we have in Tampico this weekend week we are going there we had a marken class yesterday some content marketing workshops and everything else went well I didn't feel good it met my expectations and well I hope that the people also left happy I think there are things that we can definitely improve But it was great and I didn't like it at all.

I liked sharing the adjoining space and this one. What are we going to talk about today? What topic does it bring to the table? Well, I have an interesting topic. I don't think it doesn't distinguish between ages, which I think is a problem. that at some point they take or face it or it goes through their mind and I'm going to put it to you with a I'm going to stop you with a question and from there we start and we're going to break down the first question is what would you say to a person who is afraid of take risks to pursue something significant with what the occasion would motivate a person to pursue what they want to achieve who is afraid of taking risks what phrase the idea like 11 sentences but that is, what would you advise them to reflect on what they are doing at this moment and Why are you doing it and if it is worth risking what you want to risk to go for something greater, maybe the answer is yes, maybe the person is miserable at their job because it is not worth losing what does not make you happy for risking it. go for something bigger that maybe you won't achieve it but I think you'll be happy if you try at least I feel what you think I'm not very convinced of that or I understand it but I don't know I think maybe there are situations that are a little more complicated Others are a class, yet a universal answer for any type of person, I insist there are very delicate issues and there are also worldly dreams, different proposals, not if you want to be a soccer player and you are 32 years old, of course, and if you know yourself, I completely agree, Urba, that is.

Well, to begin with, I believe that one of the biggest risks that we face as human beings is that typical thing like not pursuing something meaningful to you with the hope that in the future They can buy you the freedom to do it, although it is something typical, no matter how passionate I am about this, but well, first, you paid the price of maybe being in this place that I don't like while I earn money or savings and so on so that it doesn't stop. that I have enough cushion so that in the future I can try it but that is a risk that what I say and that seems like a week is something unreal something illogical or is it something something that is like perceiving a rainbow or is it that you will never have enough financial freedom to really pursue that, I think you're facing more of a problem that you're afraid to pursue what you want, as it really is the course of the things.

Yes, of course, I know that you are my hypothesis or my theory that that type of excuses even if you have enough money so to speak the real problem you are facing is fear the fear of what they will say the fear of what will happen was this tried the fear of what will happen if you start acting in a certain way I already think that It is a bigger problem and you simply use money as an excuse but for example what would I say, I mean I think that would not apply or it would be a little more complicated I don't know a person who has debts who has responsibility has a family well it is not as difficult as it has been If I explain myself completely, I think that what you say perfectly applies to people who, if they do not have any responsibility, today, since we are already 26 years old, we are single, we have one, we already have debt, we are privileged, definitions of a lover, a girl, for example, chosen, we do not have illnesses, we do not have we have exactly then well maybe that's not how it applies but I think well and it's also a problem that I face because when you share those types of ideas then the comment and what happens if I'm in bed and I don't know what the hell if the extreme but I think that the vast majority of people, even the people who listen to this podcast, are in that situation, I don't know, they are really in a situation in which if the advice of risking Tibet for what you want does apply to you, I understand that there are cases for which I do not understand what extremes but even in those extremes what I would do is start seeing people who are in my position and who did it and take that path as a map or as a guide to be able to do the same I think there are There are very few situations in life in which staying stable is your only option.

In fact, I honestly believe that there are none, and even if you have a terminal illness, you are the owner of what to do, and I completely agree with that. people who do not have any serious responsibility, well yes, that is, the cost you are paying is your life and it is a custom to the tone. If you are in a place where he is miserable, well, if the price you are paying is your life, well, what is he giving you? that you are investing something very very heavily so that it does not give you something in return and if you have that flexibility then that no one depends on you and that you do not have any other business because I think it is worth the risk I even say before we jump from This topic is more interesting and returning a little to the onis cycle, we talked about some chapters even with this mental tip of money, I think what happens to you is that you think you need so much money and once you have that money you set the goal more high and surpassed seeing the highest goal and I also told you this week that I read I realized that it was the diderot effect and that is you at the moment in which some aspect in your life level scales all your other aspects also have to climb that level and consequently this cycle of dreams is generated.

There is the moment that you have a thousand pesos and you buy a jacket of a thousand pesos, your pants of 200 pesos are already out of that being that that balance that exists so I think that I believe that that that is like the internal engine of the cycle where is the fact that he is always watching you and that about breivik that makes me have to appreciate everything else and there are even times when it even happens with personal relationships with everything in your life I believe that a person should be afraid of taking risks and pursuing something significant, but I think that they should be even more afraid of not staying where they are if they are making themselves miserable, of course, well, I think that fear should be even greater, I insist because The price you are paying is your life and it is a personal 10 and yes yes yes yes yes and qantas also paying something that I would like to add is imagine that you are in a situation in which you have a family you have some children you have a lot of responsibilities that It's not, you can't escape by going beyond the sight itself.

It's possible. The advice I would give you is to consider a dream that respects those limitations that brought you eggs. I insist that they are what I talk about in my book. Limitations are blessings, everything. The world has limitations of a certain type and in attendance and thousands 160 well Peronism that's how you got it guy use that limitation to best be the shortest basketball player it is understood that your limitations are the essence of what you are pursuing I am going to adapt your dreams to the limitations that you had to live with everyone has limitations right imagine you can't see it I want to be a basketball player well maybe he gave me 1 million and 180 and it would be very difficult for me to be a basketball player not impossible but I mean I think he knows he understands your limitations and at the end of the day, dreams are invented things, so if you have a dream to be an astronaut, a mental one that you made to another website, nothing happens, it's healthy, but dreams are not the end, I think that something also comes here, a premise that makes me It left me thinking a lot after reading the book about the man, look for the meaning of Victor Frank, who recommended a lot to me.

Grace is an excellent book and it left me a lot to think about and I think it is very adapted to this topic we are talking about because we could say well let's see what you think looking for what makes you happy doing what makes you happy is a luxury you could agree or not it can't be that if you are considering the scenario where a person depends depends guy because yes I think that happiness begins to depend on different things once you begin to have more needs. If you don't have to eat well, eating is what makes you happy.

Ok, but I'm about to give an example to support this premise. The concentration camps are in the concentration camp in Auschwitz, they were people who were definitely not going to be able to be happy there, I agree, they were the most aberrant conditions in the history of humanity, I would almost almost dare to say, well, it is power, power. being happy being there I think that in something very complicated it did not come back obviously in different magnitudes we could assimilate it to a person who is in a job where he is miserable where he is definitely completely miserable but he does not have it, he is paying for the mistake in that case you do not feel that what is happening The same thing as the Onís cycle is and if you are in the worst condition you can be in, your standard of happiness is very low and there are small things that make you happy, so it makes a difference.

I think that's how you get to normalize the matter, but at the same time At the same time you have the point of comparison and maybe you didn't explain if it is a previous conversion post. Remember that the century the onís cycle is when it really works is when you are climbing between more scales because you don't have a previous point of comparison but well, we talked about that too. that in that chapter that we gave the example x and you return to the middle ages eventually I was going to be happy because you remember that we said that it depended a lot on the context in which I make it clear to you, speaking universally, that you are living a better life in the world because you have the knowledge that no one has, but well, if you see everyone unhappy, don't wish so badly for that, but you know that outside of there people are not the same, he explained, that is, outside the concentration camp, people are not the same, if you were to talk about all of humanity submitting to that condition, imagine and imagine, imagine that in 100 years the cure for all diseases is discovered, for death, for all diseases.

If that happens in 100 years, the reality of now is going to be, in a way, a concentration camp for people in 100 years. There is the number, we are conditioned to death. What you are saying is that since we do not know that this exists, we can be happy. You do not believe that enough time can pass for that point of comparison to disappear. It disappears. I believe that if I go, Maybe not the first month, but you give me ten years in that reality, well then in this one, well, I insist if everyone lived as they are, well, okay, I mean, at the end of the day, a large part of the satisfaction in our lives is because we look around and We take refuge, then I insist on a concentration camp, if perhaps a very small extract of people is the same as you, but you know that this is not really the case and that there is a majority outside the concentration camp because they live in other completely different realities and yet You were already used to something else, no, but well, what I want to get at is that there is a quote by Victor Forma that says that life is never unbearable because of what you have to do because of the conditions you have to live in, but rather it is unbearable. because of the lack of meaning that they can give it taking as a reference how the people in the concentration camps were able to overcome that test because the one who was a survivor tells you that that is him.

In his book he narrates his experience in the concentration camp, he was a psychologist and what he was able to notice under the experience of others and his own was the sense that each time the only thing that made them overcome that test and move forward was the meaning they gave it, whether it was seeing your family again or sharing this story with others. humanity, if I explain myself, everyone makes sense and those who did not have it at least had no reason to live anymore because they died quickly, they got sick faster and well, I agree against it slowly with but I think that this adapts very well to this topic because at the same time at the same time I don't know I insist on different obviously in different magnitudes but I do feel like being in the concentration camp with being in a miserable job and I don't know let's say that you are tied you are not tied like a prisoner in the concession camp that is not You can do nothing about it by going out there, let's say you are at that extreme because you are not really condemning yourself to an unbearable life but perhaps you could ask yourself how you can construct meaning in your work maybe if what you consider meaningful to you is to maintain your relative's education because maybe you can see your miserable job as the means to give your children a quality of life and that way it becomes a little less unbearable every time it is hard for you to be there and so on, well, remember the purpose or purpose the meaning that it has for you to be there and in that way it can lighten the load let me explain if I agree with you and we will return I say the meanings are things that you construct exactly but at the end of the day it is strange and we really have two really everything that we assign an intrinsic value to is something that we did not invent definitively by rolling music you are going to cry because you will assign this is the intrinsic value you really are there is no meaning in life that you don't invent it well even in the conditions you can invent a meaning you can feel sorry for it I believe that faith is a very toolpowerful very it is very it is very hand in hand with the meaning it is ugly if it really is faith it is a belief without a rational foundation or at least with a touch of hope and I think that the meaning the same web but yes I agree it is a it is a social resource in mind, they are a resource that you build on adversity so that you can endure it if I explain myself and that is when it comes a lot to the field of religion or religion comes to good a long time ago now less and less but with to explain the inexplicable of course if it works yes I think this is still the problem is that because the field there is a field where the sciences have not reached and that the problem is that this campus and it is getting smaller is correct complete completely aqua with you but finally in the area of ​​religion was that precisely not throughout history it was not what the region said it is not a it is a window of ignorance exactly they fit in times ago that we knew the flavor of the planet of religion to which it dictated whether the The sun was coming out because if the earth was round and not, and the opposite is true, the hair is not, but as you say, little by little they are doing it, it has been taking up that area, but well, there are certain issues where it still does not reach and that is why It is still very valid also in religions and in the future science will arrive because we do not know what is going to happen but well finally it is a resource this is a resource that you decide to take to give it well here comes another premise which is that More than the success or happiness of the human being, what we are really searching for as human beings is meaning, I think I totally believe that otherwise life would be unbearable even if it is your creation and an illusion and an invention what you You want, I think it is necessary for one's very survival, if not success, life has no meaning because when it is there in suicide at the end of the course when you have a life that seems to be perfect way if you want meaning if you don't find meaning in pleasure if you don't You find the meaning of all the wolves that you have so that you continue living and that is why suicides happen in towns like in my winehouse that may seem like lies today they are successful people they have everything but it doesn't make sense so they don't serve your wealth because If the present is that these people lose meaning in life having everything, whether due to fractured personal relationships or because oops, well, I think it is a combination of many factors.

I believe that the game largely takes the cycle of an ist because for example there we can see in the players who win olympic medals the athletes michael phelps reports that like 90% of the winners of the olympic athletes after the competition ended up in depression and in fact they have a term called poop post olympique depression is a literal term It's 90% talking about something stupid and anti-Gentants ccoo and 90% 90 for the Olympic medalists come back with depression don't suck and I say I think it makes sense and here the wheel is highly valued Donis are people who put their mind, body and soul For a long time it seems time for a single specific moment, which is the competition, of course, winning the medal, all the attention, hell of an egg, had the most reward and what happens next, already ready, normalistas and me, and now and now, all your money, that gigantic meaning that the They award an event of something all your life you strive for that moment that moment ends and now that this happens to footballers, the old people are people who have a career that reaches a gigantic point and who were awarded the meaning the race instead of the process to the end point that is not finished and so now it ends and the same thing happens, for example, well similar in those who win the lottery that there is a study by the authors of the study but I have just seen it which says that lottery winners after a certain time report feeling just as happy as before winning it, which is a manifestation of the agonist network, in the end, not their expectations, just their reality, normalize the situation and well, they want more or they are already accustomed to what they have, so their feelings stabilize, no, and at the end of the day I think that all this is related to putting all the eggs in your basket in a finite destination, no, what is good is that now it keeps returning to the point that We told ourselves a little about the search, the human being is meaning, a definition of success is there because success or what you think will make you happy at the end of the day is something ephemeral, of course, the final result of something or the destiny of something is ephemeral you get used to it will become normalized something else is created and if you leave a result currently that result is going to happen in that moment of glory it is going to end exactly but instead the meaning is different the meaning what is behind the achievement of something the meaning does not have an end it is a star an infinite path polar star is exact so that's why I really liked this what this conclusion of the meaning of Viktor Frankl is that human beings are really in search of that and returning to question 1 the second question I asked you about if it is a luxury to pursue what is meaningful to you, well, maybe if it is a luxury to pursue what makes you happy, well, that is not my position, but it is a moral obligation to pursue what is meaningful to you. you and you don't believe that it is the same thing that is significant gives you a much deeper happiness I think that if you pursue superficial achievements then yes it is a luxury to pursue well I don't know and let's imagine we are going to put the hypothetical case of a person who is passionate that he would have loved to pursue the dream of being an astronaut, that that would have made him very happy in his hypothetical situation, but that is what I know, I would do more, that is, that is a superficial achievement, the astronaut career is something that I am going to put the focus on. gas, for example, you Farid Díaz, everything is a person, you are 25 years old, you are good-looking, someone has millions of followers on the street, they ask you for photos, they recognize you, you have an incredible podcast and you make good videos, right now you may be on your plan. life may not be able to believe it better nowhere imagine you are 35 years old the internet no longer exists your videos are seen by 513 people and spoke in those millions who see you before now new conferences I'm going like what meaning does it have right now that at that moment it wouldn't fall into a very deep depression, my meaning is that whatever finds me being, regardless of its apparent magnitude, serves as an instrument that my positives are exactly what I mean, lacarra astronaut, not those of justice, the meaning that you have of those, I would tell you, well, yes You stop me from being a lecturer to being a lecturer today my meaning is I was correct but I don't know I'm going to give you a case I don't know maybe a footballer whose career is finite and definitely what makes him happy was playing good football but then comes a point the age where he can no longer play football is already 50 years old, maybe we will even go to the case where a sub prime footballer talks about a footballer in his prime that a stream of time is still in his body and what you If you want and he has an accident he becomes a paraplegic he can no longer play football he cannot do what makes him happy he is condemned to a miserable life I would like to say no water but the net how many I mean it is very easy to say but how many people it is very easy to know I I know, I want you to know, but if tomorrow all this ends, maybe a sadness was invented, although according to me, I don't say it definitively, but there the phrase that is not condemned to be miserable but is in force again.

I don't completely agree if I find a meaning in it exactly that's what I'm going for if they give him a polar stripe if that's where I go well well you know exactly but that's what that's the point that after saying he can no longer do what makes him happy You can't do it anymore, that made you happy and suddenly one day, you're no longer there, you're no longer there, but no, I agree, you're not condemned to a miserable life. If you build its meaning for it, I think that the condition you're in can be bearable. where Victor Frank's phrase is valid, I would complement it a little with I believe that real purposes are not conditioned to your physical limitations or your limitations and I completely agree as long as you are conscious you can pursue a purpose a purpose but as an official goal the purpose that you you mentioned although he is a paraplegic you can continue doing by being kind to someone and that's it even if you remain mute you can continue like this or you know something that while this awareness you can continue doing when your purpose is something physical something if something something finite something finite well eventually or you leave You're going to die or you're going to reach that finite point, man, and once you reach that finite point, you're going to fall into a void because it's not going completely, but that's what I want to get to.

That's what happens to everyone, and the clear solution is to find a new purpose and a purpose that is a polar star way and considering that it can be many purposes many times they sell us the idea or we believe the idea that you have to pursue a huge purpose and you know when it really is that many things can give different purposes or you can follow a purpose what if you know that no longer change it you change it the passion to deteriorate the joke is to advance or the and improve are when you stagnate is when it takes you to the end if you will always be moving forward and you will always be looking for a direction and adapt, Wences, it's nothing more, don't stand still, but well, it's just that today when I mean that it's a luxury to do what makes you happy because maybe this footballer, well, yes, he no longer has the luxury of having a body functioning to do it, he explained yes, but when your purpose is very limited, that is, yes, yes, what makes you happy is being soccer, it is playing soccer, well, I'm there, I'm referring to the fact that if soccer makes you happy, your purpose is to play. soccer, that is, if that is what makes you happy, well, eventually, when you get to that point, don't forgive, eventually, when if your purpose is to play soccer, then it is a luxury to pursue happiness because you have the physical conditions to do so if your purpose It goes a little further then it is not a luxury to pursue it, it is, as it says, a moral obligation it is a necessity of the human being to pursue that purpose how strange if it is it became unbearable then returning to the question can you be happy in a concentration camp having a very clear purpose I would say that yes I do not know if I could do it but I would say that it is possible I I do not believe that I would not put happiness in there I simply believe that I could bear it tolerable it does it it makes it tolerable exactly no no I would not dare to say because I don't know I would like a definition of happiness that makes maybe leave the harvard teacher who says that happiness is the sum of meaning with positive experiences I really liked the formula because it really makes sense but there can't be a positive experience in that in the middle of that context I understand that you are in a moment I agree it is a moment that is why complete happiness I really do not believe exists if it is not for moments think or let's say to each other right now we are talking and I ask you and They didn't give you a project that's very fraga for you it's soon at that moment of Felix passes and Priscila in an hour to move your mom I ask you are you happy it doesn't even make me answer I think that happiness is not something general it's good it dies If your mother dies even a year later, I wonder, are you happy, of course, but she is already living in pursuit of good, she is a very good example, I will be at times no, but if a loved one dies, you are already conditioned to this reality, you already have a reference to reality in which your loved one did live and however they want they can be happy but normal even well that's what I mean I also think they can normalize the extremes but I don't know if the concentration is different I already have the reason see well I think because if it takes you too long to take and Normal time passes and if also in that time interval if you are experiencing positive things about xe I don't know you achieved a goal you are doing what you like if I explain if you have certain certain achievements and others are positive experiences you have your friends and others that you want them to help you stabilize your happiness and normalize a life without having friends, but what experiences can music achieve outside of the good thing about being there? that they are torturing someone new and they kill him the next day in the chamber. gas way if I explain myself sa set I understand that I think I believe that in a concentration camp the degree of positive experiences was minimal, the negative experiences were greater although we would be in great agreement exactly the degree six-minute files a field of consciousness minds to the camp The expenses of active were much more but those negative experiences were already part of your reality, that is, they are already normalized, that is, they are torturing you, they torture themselves every day in a certain normalized way, but then what keeps you alive, that you are happy, of course, no, no.

You are not happy there, it is impossible for me to tell you if I would be happy given the reality, it seems more like a lack of respect for the people who were involved in the change of the situation, it is not seen, or I think it is that I insist if the meaning is very strong I feel like you couldn't lead a life it doesn't look bearable bearable tolerable tolerable I'm going around not happy but tolerable it's happy next to intolerable that is happiness at the end of the day this condemnation a frame of reference and if your frame of reference It is an intolerable life and now he is tolerating it.

I think the degree is something else. I believe it because happiness. I believe that happiness is a transitional state in this attraction, but it hasa treatise a frame of reference although up to now if you already know that since life is intolerable right now it is tolerable maybe saying happy is a pretty strong word but then maybe you subtract you have a degree of happiness in the number a minimum degree or be it but what is exactly what I want is not definitely not going to be fully happy but I think you have a certain degree of writing what I want to get at is that no matter how much structurality you always have control of at least doing something and If one agrees, except to give it a little meaning that gives you a little bit of happiness on your birthday and that is enough, you can give meaning to your life, I say, I insist, we are saying it right now, we who have this reality, if we lived in reality and I ask the same thing, I don't know what I would answer if you would have to be there to be able to determine it, a rather gloomy episode, it is quite sad, you are going to Chile, wow, Chile, tomorrow you will have to travel but you will have to leave late, it is two o'clock, yes, but it arrived this time, count, count.

You tell the people to unite and be well tomorrow except at twelve noon from here in Monterrey to arrive until 8 in the morning of Chile and wherever you travel before Monterrey give them Dallas Miami we do not have that means the trajectory I hate either lante and you are to stay in Chile how many hours in well he arrived at eight in the morning on Thursdays of her s 10 million and more the next day at around seven in the afternoon and he arrived in Monterrey until the next day until Saturday night I'm going to spending more time on the plane than I'm not in a hurry but hey that's fine this is all for this chapter number 7 of Robert and Happy a rather gloomy chapter but the net I think we were never going to end with such low energy but well thank you For listening to us we send you a big hug bears to all the people who share us and who follow us, see you in the next chapter faith error chapter number 8 greetings to all greetings two moms no