Woman On ‘Crossing Over’ During Cardiac Arrest: I’m No Longer Afraid Of Death | Megyn Kelly TODAY

Before we heard the news of Aretha Franklin's passing, we had planned this show about what happens after we die, and as we mourn the Queen of Soul, it seems like a particularly good time to ask if there's anything more on the other side. Today Show tries to answer. those questions my first guest, sherry ma, was rushed to the hospital after weeks feeling short of breath, just 10 minutes after her arrival, she lay still in her husband's arms. sherry was dead for 90 minutes but miraculously came back to life and now has a profound near-

death

experience to share see early 2008 sherry ma was living life to the fullest she was actually living a really wonderful life when she was 20 years old earning a lot of money experiencing freedom and truly feeling on top of the world Sherry's good life came to a halt later that year when he was diagnosed with Hodgkin's lymphoma, he waited until the door closed we both sat down and I knew something was up and That's when he looked at me and said: you have cancer.

She immediately underwent intensive rounds of chemotherapy that paralyzed her body and there are no words to describe how that chemotherapy treatment was so extreme I wouldn't wish her side of that Sun on anyone after fighting the disease for three months her cancer entered She was in remission and was declared cancer free. It's an amazing feeling to go. I had those tests done and I realized they were saying it was shrinking, but in April 2010, Sherry suffered another setback,

cardiac

arrest

, the doctors were rushed and They immediately performed CPR within the first five 10 minutes, they were unsuccessful and they were ready to tell my time of

death

. a doctor ordered CPR to continue.

He just became a drill sergeant and told everyone what to do. They did chest compressions for more than 90 minutes, but to no avail. She was placed on life support and then rushed to New York Presbyterian Columbia Hospital and underwent open-heart surgery. surgery I knew I was somewhere else I knew I had died I would say instantly when I stopped I immediately crossed into this other realm and I remember my body just floating in this white space and I felt as light as a feather I felt free sherry joins us now sherry thank you so much for being here thank you for inviting me let's go to that moment in the hospital where you were stuck and they you know they say that's the moment you're dead if your heart doesn't work if your heart doesn't pump is it true that they wanted us to be able to stop CPR and there was a doctor who said mmhmm yes, were you ready to call my time of death?

Everyone in that thing in that emergency room was ready to call. At the time of my death, a man in that entire room said no, we're not going to lose her and he ordered everyone, like a drill sergeant, according to my father, to continue with CPR and what they had to do was continue with her long enough for him to install a temporary device. life support what's the first memory you have of your otherworldly experience, yeah, it was pretty instantaneous for me. I remember one minute I was in this world and the next minute I felt like I had died.

I knew immediately that I was in this blank space where I felt like I had no form and I felt light as a feather. I felt free and I remember feeling really free from the burdens of everyday life. There was a feeling of panic. You know I'm dead, oh my God. I've died, it was more wow, this is so beautiful, really, yeah, you absolutely remember it and we were like, was it one of those things where you were above the room, where were you looking? It wasn't like an out of body experience, I was literally in another realm, so I was no

longer

, I was no

longer

in the physical hospital room.

I was completely in another realm. In fact, I felt connected to my family on the other side and I felt connected to the heavens, so there was no distinction of "okay, I'm dead and I'm in this other world," it was more like I just gracefully walked into this door and made this beautiful transition into another realm, so there's a lot more to his experience and what happened in those. Moments that include an illumination on the life he had lived until now, we will pick it up there when we return now. Sherry, a man who says he had a life-changing near-death experience during

cardiac

arrest

when she had been dead for 90 years. minutes, so sherry.

I know you said that at the time I felt like you did a life review, what does that mean? Yeah, it's funny because it wasn't actually just a life review of my current life, it was actually a life review of any experience my soul has ever been through, which is so crazy, it was so crazy to me. Did you believe in past lives before that moment? I didn't really think about anything. I really didn't even know what a near-death experience was. until I came back, so this was all very strange to me. Maybe I had heard of people having an out-of-body experience that I didn't know about in this math, so yeah, I mean, this was definitely very, very strange to me.

And do you feel like you have a window to previous lives? I mean, the most important thing that I really learned was that I learned that sometimes we all have this common recurring theme that is happening in our lives, whether you know bad finances or a relationship problems that I learned during my life check what the theme was. from the comment and actually how to fix it Wow, because what happened was it was sticking to my soul, yes, for every lifetime. I'm sorry, but I believe that, but I feel like that's part of karma, yes, and that you still have the opportunity to do well and you know that eventually you will do it and you will move on to the next plane, yes, but I really believe that there is something to that, yes, the notion of being dead but not dead.

It's confusing for people and we have a doctor here, his name is dr. Sam Parr Nia, a world expert on the science of death and author of Erase Death, which sounds like a great idea, doctor. Thanks for being here, how could I be dead but not dead for 90 minutes? Well, you know, it's very good. The question, of course, the reality is that we all have a perception of death and this goes back millennia, which is essentially death is a moment, there is a moment when you are either alive or you are dead and the reason why We think that is because when the heart stops, there is no more blood flowing to your brain and surely other organs the brain shuts down immediately a person becomes lifeless, immobile and dead or even if you go back to the French Revolution when someone had lost their mind, there is no more. blood enters the brain and Anna's injections, however, the surprising thing is that about 50 or 60 years ago we discovered CPR and we discovered that you can actually artificially restart the heart or produce a circulation that causes blood to flow throughout the body even after a person has died and that made our definitions more ambiguous and what is even more interesting now is that we understand that only after a person has died, which makes a lot of sense, but the cells inside The body begins to experience its own dying process, so when someone's heart begins to stop, it is only then that the cells will begin to die and that process will take many hours, possibly days, how has your perspective on death changed? and life as a result of this experience?

I'm definitely not

afraid

of death anymore and that was something I had feared my entire life. Yeah, and what I learned is that fear of death really stops you from truly living, so if you knew me before my near-death experience and now it's like I'm two completely different people because I lived before death . death I lived my life very well all my decisions were like beasts around fear fear of what other people would think fear of what other people would say you know fear of not being good enough or fear of not being worthy even though I was successful in my early years all The decision was still based on that.

Now I change the script. I'm doing everything they're getting from the wrong place. I'm so glad you're okay. You have your new heart. Yes, it looks amazing and thanks for selling. and

today

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