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pretty cool surreal that's real the clocks are melting Salvador Valley is out there uh are you buying that computer? clearly the insults to Patrick Mahomes have to stop Greg, I'm going to convince you that you can laugh, I'm going to convince you, okay, so Peyton Brady, yeah. It was just that it wasn't an on-field

rivalry

for quite some time. Peyton got it a couple of times in the regular season, but it was years before Brady beat him in the postseason or Peyton beat Brady in the playoffs, so why was it a

rivalry

? Well, one man wins, but the other has the numbers and the MVPs before Payton beat Brady in a playoff game.

He had two more MVPs than Brady. He had finished ahead of Brady on the All-Pro team. Six different times, that's not the situation. there is no Mahomes Allen competition here one has won an MVP it is Patrick one has been in a Super Bowl it is Patrick one has won a Super Bowl it is Patrick one has beaten the other in the playoffs every time they have played it is Patrick it is a situation from Brady Ben Roethlisberger like, hey, there's a big, strong guy who's pretty good, maybe one day he'll win. I don't know if it will happen, but Brady Manning was the winner, the winner and the guy who had all the numbers.

Patrick is Bold, so what the hell are we talking about here? Why does Josh Allen become Peyton Manning? You know, Patrick Holmes gets to be both. He's Brady and man, he's Brady in the postseason, he's Manning in the regular season like the and. For the rivalry to happen, we need a year of his career. Josh Allen may be better than Patrick Mahomes, it hasn't happened yet or beating him in the playoffs hasn't happened yet. You want a rivalry with the locals. Tom Brady has one. We've split Mahomes in the regular season more than Brady did both times in the playoffs.

Well, you mean Joe Burrow could do it. Burroughs turned in his race against Mahomes. I think he's a bit random, but so be it. Joe Burrow, people, make the case, everyone listen to this, this is not a Burrow versus Allen rivalry, well, he's just saying it because he was in a Super Bowl, he beat him in the playoffs, he beat him in the regular season, mom never beat her brother so I give him you know what if you want to make that case well no there this is very disrespectful Josh Allen is Tom Brady okay oh wow I'm just saying that Dimensions no this is look when you talk about rivalries it's not so much about back and forth in terms of wins and losses it's about these two being the best at their craft right now and they're dueling.

Whoever has the best. Michigan and Ohio State, we've all been saying this is great. The Ohio State rivalry has trapped them forever, they have dominated them. I get where you're coming from you're so excited because now someone's about to dethrone your guy okay then do it here's Josh Allen so do it and if he when they win when they win this weekend this weekend it won't mean nothing, by the way, that's exactly what I'm going to say, no, it won't have any weight in Nick Wright's world, of course, yes, beat him when it counts, but in my world it's going to have a lot of weight and the reason why that's going to have a lot of weight is because I think Josh Allen is the best quarterback in the National Football League and he's putting everyone in good stead, so let's go.

I'm asking you a question because you said he's going to matter this weekend. If Mahomes wins, let's stop this nonsense. Not at all because you're not going to stop with it. Because at some point, guys, I think I made a pretty compelling case. about Payton Peyton had all the accolades of the regular season Josh Allen didn't even make the Pro Bowl, he won the Pro Bowl, he made a Pro Bowl, he was never in a Super Bowl and that shows that each of you have lost in my homes of the last two years. In the playoffs, what are we talking about?

Well, I'm with you, I'm very much with you, of course, because even I do

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, but I think this is the year because I picked Allen to win the MVP and I picked them to win. the Super Bowl is fine, so I guess this is the year it happened, but until then, who's to say who's to say that Alan is the guy? He'll be my home and someone, right, Brady, uh, Peyton, he'll be my home and someone, why couldn't he? It's Lamar, I mean what if Lamar has the MVP and what if he gets to the Super Bowl and beats Mahomes in the place why did you mention Burrow Herbert?

Now I understand that everyone is so young, right? Not even like even though Burrow beat them, yeah, he's out of it, even though Burrow beat him in the playoffs, I can't blame him, but I say Allen, the guy he looks like he's going to be, is Allen vs. Mahomes, but it's not. anyone yet, the only one who is defined is Mahomes and then let's see what guy he becomes. I'll show you the full screen. This is what I like and I know we're talking about quarterback legacies versus quarterback legacies. That kind of

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. I think it's more like a boxing match here are his stats.

I think last year's playoff game felt like an epic boxing match that was like, oh, who's going to win the last round and Mahomes got it, that's what NFL fans are here to see, yeah, so I think they really align. well and that's why this is the most anticipated game, but to use the boxing analogy because there have been a lot of great trilogies, yes, and Brew is a better boxing historian than me, so I'm not going to choose because I can't think of a. Trilogy where a guy won the

first

two and still got a third fight, then there's boxing, oh my god, the world heavyweight championship is on the line and the champion knocks out the other guy in five rounds, which was the Championship of the AFC two years ago and then the guy who got knocked out in five rounds had to get another one, had to get another one and oh my God he did it and for 11 rounds he was winning on every card and then the champion came back knock him out in the 12th round. the champion will be the Vegas favorite before the third, especially inside that guy's hometown, that's going to happen, no, but that's what's happening here, let's hear what they're like Sonny Liston and Muhammad Ali and suddenly we thought.

I don't know which one is which we do know, yeah, sorry for mentioning it. I mean, you're right and since it's football, he's still going to get shots and I've said it and I'll say it again. Do I think Patrick Mahomes is going? going undefeated in his playoff run against Josh Allen, of course not, at some point the Bills are going to get one, now it's the Bills, so they're going to lose the next one, but I mean, at some point they're going to get one. I don't doubt that and maybe it will happen this year.

It's so maddening to me that everyone is treating this game this season like it already happened. Can I ask something really quick? If Josh Allen beats Mahomes in the playoffs and he wins MVP, you can say he's the best quarterback in football. I won't believe it because my eye test says in my house he's the most talented quarterback I've ever seen. But he can just wear the crown if he passes. Mahomes and then wins the Super Bowl, he can say, "Okay, I wear the crown, that's how it is for me, that's totally fair, even if it's not, even if it's debatable." My point is that right now it's not arguable, right now people are just handing him the crown like hey take it, no one else wants it, this guy's been using it since the moment he came in, you did a great job there , not just doing a great segment providing the invoices to the social media teams many times, oh I know, thanks for watching, subscribe here for more of the show and to see clips from other shows on FS1