Rishi Sunak is 'sympathetic to the idea' of stepping down | Tim Montgomerie

It's the Prime Minister himself, not that he wants to go, but apparently he's openly telling his advisors in Downing Street that I'm not very good at this because nothing happens and he's a good man. Richy Sunak is not inhuman and I think he knows something. it's not going well and you wonder why, but yes, the conservative party has to carry a good man, but someone who is really not good at politics at a time when we were already in trouble, is the party that is in a situation very dangerous position and so is Richy Sun's leadership well it was two weeks ago um John I came here and said I thought it was time for rishy to go and partly because he wasn't good at politics and part for reason.

I've come to the conclusion that it's not just a risky thing to do, it's an operation that he can preside over and we've had this controversy over the last 24 hours with this ridiculous ad about London that some of your listeners may not have seen. . but it's very creepy, very dark, um uh, very Trumpian, it's actually kind of a catastrophe in Britain, it has a weird American voice and they had to remove it today because there's a Penn Station scene in New York People instead from London running through Pen Station in a panic or something and now Rachel has a theory that maybe they wanted it to be so controversial that we would talk about it because if you have the vanilla ad and I accept that and we're talking about it and we're talking of that, but I think T MP is just another example and there's one, there's almost two or three almost every week of this operation that just doesn't work on a basic level and um, I've had two weeks to think about my involvement in this program.

I wasn't exactly prepared to say what I did when I did it two weeks ago, but everything that's happened since the people I've talked to, you know, confirms to me and I'm probably right, anyone who's sure change the Prime Minister again, you know, it should probably be certified, but I think I definitely, overall, I think the Kaza party is going to take the gamble and someone who should know what they're talking about told me that today. They didn't agree with me that it was the right decision, but they said: "I tell you that one person who is quite

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to your point of view is the Prime Minister himself, not that he wants to leave, but apparently he is telling his friends quite openly." advisers in Downing Street.

What am I not very good at? Why doesn't anything happen? And he is a good man. Richy Sunak. He is not inhuman. I think he knows something is wrong and he's wondering why, but yes, it's the Conservative Party that has to bear it. a good man but someone who is really not good at politics at a time when we are already in trouble, it is the role that is in a very dangerous position and the leadership S in some things in his thinking for the day there to get We are thinking, I mean the last point, yes, it is a glimpse of a kind of Soul arising.

Moment of a crisis of confidence and belief on the part of the Prime Minister. You can imagine someone saying maybe in an ironic way, you know, nothing works, what do you do? I have to do to do something. Are you saying no? I think it's more than that. I think I'm not there. He is someone. It's just one source, but it's a source that I trust impeccably and that this man is not sitting there. in Downing Street without realizing how bad things are and wondering if I'm the problem, am I the problem? Those little moments kind of make me wonder if you, Tim, are going to come here today.

What I'm saying is that I've reflected and decided that I've changed my mind and now I'm a tacit devotee, but I didn't want that for so long. Didn't I do it for a long time? I was speculating like you I didn't even speculate for a long time Rael what do you think about that by the way? Rachel's

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of ​​um Richi Sunak having a moment of confidence collapses. I think Tim called. I'm not saying she said it right because it hasn't happened yet, but she said something interesting before I heard it. said more frequently, which I've actually been doing in the last two weeks, uh, and I think there's obviously a feeling in the Conservative party that you change leaders twice, not a third time, no, no, a third time , it will simply make us look equal. more chaotic and dysfunctional than we already are and right now that's the opinion that's a little bit persistent, but there's also an opinion that I'm hearing more and more that yes, we're going to lose the next election, that's something like that.

It's accepted now, but would changing leaders really make us look worse? Would it really have a worse effect on polls than polls right now? Can you honestly say that if you change leaders and have Penny Morens or K Badok or James Cleverly or someone? that maybe they wouldn't recover one bit and I think those conversations are happening now, there's a lot of issues around that as they can't really agree on who they would like in their place and several of the people they are. The frontrunners would really prefer to hold the election and then take over as opposition leader so they can blame the election on Sunak, but I think there is now a feeling that losing is inevitable, but losing as much as the polls currently suggest.

They're going to lose, it's not inevitable, yeah, I mean, how do you measure it? Let me ask you how you measure the balance and weight of opinion on these things. I know it's impossible to be. You know, to be precise. AR. arithmetically, but we also know, don't we? that when it comes to gauging the mood in the lobby, for the purposes of this conversation, Tory party people like us, when operating in Westminster, tend to gravitate towards the people who are about to say something interesting and there are a lot of them. people you tend not to talk to and when you think they're not going to say anything interesting and when the Prime Minister, as he did last week, goes to meet all the Conservative MPS and says it's just some of you, they're not all.

I wonder if that's totally wrong. I spoke to a couple of MPS after that meeting and the general consensus was that he did quite well and that, in some ways, even the MPS were sort of measured by how much table banging there was and there was less table banging. the table of those waiting and there were some loud voices of criticism, but overall the mood after that was a beautiful sunny day, everyone was sitting on the Parliament Terrace having a drink and the mood was as if, yeah he did it right, that's not the mood today so I think maybe the point is that it changes very quickly and a combination of things going wrong.

I think that ad, Tim's right, speaks to a really strange sense of dysfunction. Because who are you talking about? You're not talking to voters, you're talking to a couple of people on Twitter who are obsessed with this kind of thing. So I think the mood can change very quickly and what was true in that meeting last Wednesday is not necessarily true later today, the way I heard, I've seen it myself, maybe you, maybe yeah, we mentioned there that that, um. political ad in London where KH is, of course, the incumbent mayor is well over 20 points ahead of his nearest competitor, Susan Susan Hall, but in the West Midlands, Andy Street is the Conservative incumbent and well, he thinks which may have a bit of a fight on its hands and there is a suggestion that I just heard before that there is an attack from the conservative side in Birmingham that has also been criticized And no, that's true, it's just been published.

I haven't seen it, but I can soon blame Richy for that. He doesn't see the ads that appear in city campaigns. Not Tim, but ultimately you are also the CEO of the party. He appointed someone he knows he would do it. Rick Holden. He would not be my choice as party president. Know? Do you have the best people in these jobs? Do you know why there hasn't been proper contact with Boris Johnson or anything yet? Where is the conservative team? Do you know where this is? the conservative party is potentially facing an extinction level event in the next election.

I'd say, oh, you're in Canada's kind of scary territory now. I think you know we might know what chance there is, it's a small chance. But yes, the thing in Canada or something like that could happen. Where is the big meeting of the conservative tribe and to say what we have to do? He sits there in Downing Street with his advisers and there's not much scope to consult columnists and commentators. opinion formers the general movement I don't think MPS feels properly consulted on things like the manifesto and there is a conservative operation there that is producing adverts like this there are some someone has to take responsibility for this not being a suitable operation for adults in multiple levels and ultimately it has to be the Prime Minister, there's a bunker mentality, outreach isn't happening and, uh, there's not really a sense that we're all working together, this is what we're trying to achieve. . very fractured