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group of people that has been in power probably since 1933. Hello, I'm hello and welcome to the position, my name is Stephen Edgington, this week Joe Biden launched his 2024 presidential campaign to discuss his chances and The consequences of Tucker Carlson's departure from Fox News. I am accompanied by American historian Victor Davis Hansen. Joe Biden is the favorite to be president again in 2024. I don't think so. If he were the nominee, I don't think he would be a traditional candidate, he would be an artifact, a prop, a construct, they are going to have a problem because last time they had the covid veneer that would allow him to stay in the basement and be a porch candidate 19th century forward, but this At some point they will have to try, but I think they will subcontract.

He's just putting on an appearance, like I said, of a scab and underneath is this hard

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ist wound and they have an agenda and they use it to moderate or give. veneer of moderation, but they will outsource the campaign as they did in 2020 to the Titans of Silicon Valley, they raised hundreds of millions of dollars more than Trump, perhaps twice as much counting the packages, if Trump is the nominee they will link him to. a series of Mr Bragg in New York Miss latita James in New York uh Fanny Willis in Georgia Jack Smith and the special prosecutor in Florida so their plan is to gain empathy to get the nomination and then bleed him for 18 months and then finally just him they outsource the media to the media, you can see what the media is doing here in this country, they are running advertisements.

Sorry, Biden isn't running many ads, but there are narratives about them in local and national news. The state news is that Trump really wasn't such a bad guy that he's now running to the left of DeSantis because Santos is a far-right counter

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. He is dangerous, but Trump is reasonable when it comes to abortion. He is reasonable at Disney Corporation. He is socially reasonable. Security so what they want to do is what they did in 2016 and they build him up and then once he gets a nomination they change and use welfare money, the media to destroy him let's stick with Joe Biden from time to time when.

Let's move on to Trump and DeSantis a little later, does Joe Biden compare to any US president in history who he is

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like? It was pretty clear that in the last 18 months of Woodrow Wilson's presidency he suffered a stroke and that was hidden by Edith Wilson, his wife and his doctor, so what they did was they met with their advisors and they sent out daily statements of what Wilson wanted, what we know during that period, he couldn't communicate or think rationally, then he had a semi-recovery where he could walk, I think he died four or five years later, but for about a year and a half we didn't have a president and I think we're getting there to that point where Jill Dr.

Jill Biden serves as conduit and conduit. to Bernie Sanders' house Wing should not say Wing that is the orthodoxy of the Democratic Party Bernie Sanders' people Elizabeth Warren the squad the Obamas and they tell them these are going to be the appointments federal judges these are going to be the bureaucratic appointments These are going to be the initiatives and we basically want this on the open border for transgender people, uh, Green New Deal, green new deal, all that stuff and then they hand it to Joe and then he goes into his one or two minute attacks where he says, you know.

The Ultra Omega semi-fascists are stopping us, we have a big agenda, we have a big track record, we need more time and that's how it works, but not him. I think everyone, even on his side, there are a lot of Riders on the left who are basically now admitting that he is not in full control of his powers now Biden released a campaign launch video do you think he's going to have another campaign where he will basically be in the basement again? It will just be a kind of low-key campaign by the president himself, yes, we must remember one thing about him: he was always narcissistic when he was the old Joel Biden from Scranton, he was healthy and he was one of the youngest. senators in history he loved Limelight he loved getting out in front of people and he didn't do it by choice he couldn't physically do it in 2016 when he left the vice presidency he was not in good health and remember Obama Joe told Biden you don't have to do this , I mean, imagining a run for president and then in 2020, I guess as early as the night of 2019, people on the Democratic stage were saying Cory Booker, what are you doing?

Who is he? boy, I mean, he was that obvious, uh, failing and then in 2020 he used covet, but he didn't want to do that, he had no choice or he would trip or fall or say create the Corn Pop Stories like the biggest ones. The fear was that he, without those, uh, without the cognitive control over his emotions, would say things like Corn Pop Saga or you're not black or you're a drug addict that were really offensive to people or he looked at young girls or he breathed. in her hair or he would say that she is a pretty young teenager, so they didn't want him there.

I don't think he was and I think he understood that now they don't have covid but they will continue. They have no choice, they have to keep him, so he had a video and he didn't announce it because if he had announced it he wouldn't have been able to read the teleprompter without serious grammatical, syntactic or mispronunciation errors, so I think. that's what he's going to do, it'll be interesting how they package him not being there, whether he's too busy being president or has an agenda or has to worry about the foreign crisis, it has to be something, but we've never achieved.

Going back to your previous question, we've never seen anything like this in our lifetimes, where you know Wilson was 19, we're talking about 1917 and 1918. Excuse me, 1918, 1919. Even from an international perspective, what's going on with your president is absolutely It's strange and unique and I think there are broader implications than just this presidential campaign where you have this president who doesn't seem to really be in control of his agenda and there are people behind him, as you say, who are sort of making decisions for him. Do you think those broader implications? I have just summarized some of them, we have already seen them and I think the impression is twofold: the commander in chief of the US military, for example Joe Biden, will not react or cannot react or cannot understand and that he has delegated authority to people of which our foreign enemies, neutrals and allies, don't really know who is in charge and then secondly, they do know that this is the most leftist revolutionary group that has probably ever been in power. since 1933 they came with FDR and the way that is conveyed is that Iran is now going full steam ahead with nuclear enrichment and they probably already have a bomb, they have a factory in Russia that makes drones, apparently they are going to start, that China and Russia are together, China and now.

Our place as an honest broker is noted, we are with Ukraine even though it is not giving Ukraine money or weapons. Ukraine is helping Russia and yet Ukraine sees it as an intermediary with Russia. North Korea has returned to its annex on sending missiles everywhere. We had a new problem with Turkey the other day, it said it would send missiles to Athens one morning, that the Dodecanese islands are again ready for negotiations even though they are under Greek sovereignty, so I guess what I'm saying is neutrals look this and they say we have to make some strategic decisions because we don't believe that the United States is there and then allies like Saudi Arabia, for example, and Turkey, look at this and I say: "I think the United States is in decline in the rise of China and we do not want to be left out in the cold defense of Western interests when there will be no support for us if we are under the nuclear umbrella." They helped as if we were in the Gulf War of '91 and they have made the necessary adjustments and distanced themselves from us, although it is very fast because I mean we went from the Abrams Agreement, where the entire moderate Arab world was about to give a roll over and unite with Israel against a common enemy and we were energy independent and didn't need them to take advantage of us until we got to this sad midterm spectacle where Joe Biden was pleading with the Saudis to pump more oil while he had denigrated them and said that before. he didn't meet with them so it's chaos so despite all of this from my perspective it looks like there won't be a challenge to Joe Biden in terms of the Democratic nomination in 2024 now obviously there's Robert Kennedy Jr, who's trying, do you think there will be serious challenges to Joe Biden's candidacy for that 2024 nomination, unless he has a serious health condition like a mini stroke or something or he collapses, probably not and I don't think there will be no internal problem?

I'm talking about primary debates, internal party debates, so if Robert Kennedy announces his candidacy, which he did, and he already gets 14 or 15 percent without doing anything, then the logical question is: wouldn't Ted have liked Kennedy and Jimmy Carr? serious candidate, wouldn't you have debates? If he had a debate with Joe Biden, it would be embarrassing for Morder, so I think Biden is raising money and sending the message: I'm not going to debate anyone. I am going to be the candidate, it is useless to compete against me and I have given the hard left everything they want.

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of the party everything they want. There would be no reason to replace me other than superficial appearances, I think. They almost prefer this. I think they like the idea of ​​a virtual presidency because it's very predictable and can't do anything unless the narrative is fed to it and that's much better than having a volatile Bill Clinton or Obama in 2020, Joe Biden. he beat Donald Trump despite all the mistakes despite his clearly aging physical health and everything else Do you think Donald Trump can beat Joe Biden in 2024? I think it can, the polls suggest that even the strange irony is that Ron DeSantis in the polls better, uh, but not as good as Trump in the primaries, so Republican voters are considering it's very early, so probably It is premature to even speculate that they are with us in the dilemma that the person who could clearly beat Biden is not going to succeed. the nomination they would think and the guy who's going to get the nomination can't beat Biden, so I think we can see that with everything, like I mentioned before, with all these lawsuits, the point is they want Donald Trump to get it and that. it may be a mistake, it surely was a mistake in 2016 when they gave him a billion dollars in remediation coverage, but they want him to get the nomination and they want him to be a sympathetic victim so that people will rally to the cause and then once let them do it We'll see a succession, so Alvin Bragg will bring up this about campaign finance or whatever and then we'll have Latita James in the real estate portfolio and then we'll have sexual harassment 30 or 40 years ago, an accusation no sexual assault support and then we will have the phone call from Georgia and then we will have Jack Smith, the special prosecutor, and I think they will coordinate and space this out so that once he is the nominee we will hear a gag order issued.

Regarding the explosive trunk reveal, our sources tell us that the walls are closing in and that they are going to try to bleed him that way. Has there been a period in US history or an example of a US president where he lost the election and then moved on? and won another election later, only one with Grover Cleveland in late 19th century Cleveland may or may not be very similar his first four years were very successful and then when he ran for re-election there were serious questions about the integrity of the vote and then came back and won again, left office the second time, not very popular but now when historians look back he was the Democrat who broke the post-Civil War Republican Monopoly and gets praise for doing so on some reforms and that's what Donald Trump, if you really look at some of the campaign outings, a couple of them mentioned the fact that he's in Cleveland or he can come back and do this again, but that's the only time we can. we've seen it so we'll see what happens now you said Democrats would rather take on Donald Trump than Ron DeSantis because he's easier to beat in a general election but maybe there's another reason why Donald Trump was such a chaotic president and maybe he was a little incompetent, to say the least, in trying to reform the Deep State and things like this maybe they would prefer Donald Trump, who is the one who is more focused on these crazy personal problems and the accusations and all that. of these things, then Rhonda Santis, who could be more effective, actually approves well of his agenda, that is certainly true for a large minority of the Democratic party, they feel that Trump gets angry, but DeSantis takes revenge, focuses and sets his sights on the problem, so when you look at the success he has in Florida, he knows how to go immediately after, specifically, he neutered Disney, he got rid of critical race theory and he knows how to operate the levers of government, he is very effective and thanks to his brilliant wife. and to the people around him, he doesn'tcareless appointments, it does not.

I think they've done Donald Trump a disservice, but I don't think they can be as effective in trying to do to Trump what they're doing to disagree with what they're doing to Trump with the Saints. I don't think he gave them that exposure in his personal life and in his business life. So yes, there are a lot of people who believe that the Democrats, for all their irrational hatred of Donald Trump, would feel that it would be chaotic and that they could do what they did in the past, they could have a special investigator, I mean, they have made.

I didn't learn anything or forget anything when they did the Russian collusion. They all thought they would feel so humiliated and embarrassed that they never brought even a shred of evidence. His social media, radio and television all claim they had evidence that he had colluded. There weren't any, and then what did they do? They just took a deep breath, they went to the impeachment trial and after the impeachment trial, what did they do? They went during the campaign, they entered into Russian disinformation. A complete lie that Hunter Biden's laptop was a product of Russian disinformation, but they followed it, it was very successful because they squashed that story and they suppressed that true story, so yeah, I think that's what's going to happen and they believe that they can do that, a lot of people think they can operate much more effectively against Trump because he's not an experienced politician, even though he's been president for four years, the other 60 percent maybe of Democrats just don't even think about it. they just hate they hate the way he looks they hate the way he talks they hate who he is they want to destroy him they hate his family hates everything about him and they will come out of nowhere with all the money and resources they have and if you told them, if you told them like some of them tell them the people who run the Democratic Party, be careful because Rhonda Santos is going to be much more effective and knows how you think and what you do, and she's going to repeal everything that Biden didn't do.

He's not going to talk about building a wall. He will say quietly that he doesn't know if he will be able to build. the wall and he will build it and since they don't care, they think I don't care. I just hate that that's his attitude. Do you think it's wise for Donald Trump to criticize Ron DeSantis the way he is because Donald Trump has basically said that Rhonda Santis has caused a lot of problems for her home state of Florida and this again is attacking DeSantis from the left and it's the same thing Nikki Haley is doing recently: she's attacking DeSantis for his fight with Disney and saying that Disney can come to her state um because it wouldn't be so confrontational do you think it's wise for Trump and Nikki Haley to attack DeSantis from this leftist perspective ?

It's a big mistake and because it's incoherent, I mean, Donald Trump moved to Florida for a particular reason if he doesn't, if he thinks he's that sick, he has the resources, he can go back to New York, but he doesn't, and He knows that Florida is well run, he knows that DeSantis won by more than a million votes, he knows that he won in both congressional districts that generally do not vote Republican, he knows that his record is the pound sterling and that is why when he attacks Santa A is a mistake, but B when he does it from the left and attacks Social Security at Disney. abortion, then loses, works on the premise that while the base will never let me so I can strangle DeSantis in the Cradle, that's what we want even before I announce that I'm going to strangle him, but I think he'll get the La operative idea is that Trump has the base, but he always lost between three and five percent of undecided suburban Romney voters or independent voters and by attacking the offspring because he will win that, but I don't think he understands that there were also a large number of who were never Trump.

Doctrine, maybe three to five percent didn't vote for him, uh, and they might vote for him, but not if he starts acting like that, if you tell a never Trumper that maybe he was left out and you said, well , look what you did, you gave us. and this is a disaster, I would probably say you are now and as bad as I don't like Trump, I will vote for him, but when Trump attacks DeSantis, who was his favorite candidate, many of those who never succeed want DeSantis to be nominated and They say they will come back to the party, not all, but many because of their personal animosity against Trump, then they get discouraged and said what if he did this, especially when Trump says things like he will never win the mega vote. these veiled threats that if DeSantis got the nomination Trump would walk away, that's absolutely suicidal given that Republicans and conservatives have no margin for error, that really turns people off and then out of nowhere I think Trump gets the message from time to time, so In the last two days he has published, for example, a campaign ad about foreign policy and it is one of the most effective devastating ads I have ever seen.

He has given us a pulp race about what is happening around the world, nuclear threats by Putin with a bomb. coming out and then Joe Biden tripping over Air Force One and then lunatic stuff, so the Iranians and all their stuff and then Joe Biden at a press conference bewildered and but it's issue-oriented and doesn't mention the sand, it's much more effective , but he's listening, he's a combative guy, but he's listening to the wrong people and so far, DeSantis, uh, I think the strategy and I'm not, you know, I'm not on the inside councils of any of these candidates, but I think DeSantis' strategy.

It's kind of like the next thing is that after all, these accusations were announced by Bragg and the others were going to follow that natural outpouring of empathy towards Trump that skyrocketed him in the polls combined with the fact that DeSantis had not announced which one he was good but low In this circumstance he got pressure from his donors and said: you're playing 2012 Rudy Giuliani, you think you're so good that you can get in, Johnny, come lately and they'll strangle you and make you extinct before you're viable, so those two narratives dominated the media and it started to sink, but I think DeSantis' idea was completely stable, that he doesn't panic, that he doesn't get elected governor of Florida and then go around the country and be criticized for abandoning his constitutional responsibilities, but announced at the end of June by the mayor and by then the Trump people will start to see that Trump's empathy is going to disappear and become more generic than the conservative Republican people, I said, look what they are doing to Trump, we they hate do this to all of us and it won't be exclusively beneficial to Trump and then a lot of people will say "I think this is what the census thinks", they will say "well, I like Trump, he did a great thing, but my God, I'm not ready." for psychodramas, melodramas for the next one.

I just don't want to hear that there is a gag order today or that Trump will be in court tomorrow or that Lakita James is talking about all this stuff or that it's this rape trial that she's taking out. shine. all this disgusting stuff or Stormy's legacy or Jack Smith there in Morlago or Georgia's phone call just enough, I can't take it anymore, that's what DeSantis thinks is going to happen and I think there's some reason to believe. who may be right, do you think Trump is inherently non-ideological and it's crude that there is this phrase that there is something called Trump Inc that is all about making money I mean for example Trump has been pushing these nfts and things like this?

It doesn't actually go to his campaign, but to his own pocket. Do you think that's a problem where he's not really kind of an ideological Republican? It's more about his own personality. Well, that was the narrative about the Trump family that Ivanka or Jared, they all come from you, you have to do what you do to do business in Manhattan, you deal with environmental groups, you deal with unions, you feel marginalized community groups, you do and you just say and do what you have to do. and he did it better than anyone, so he survived in the New York real estate jungle, so, and if you look at this political history of supporting Democratic candidates, or being good friends with the Clintons at their wedding, or with Chuck Schumer, I think That's all true, but I think he had a natural empathy in 2015 and 2016 for workers because he was a builder and he had a history of talking to Hard Hats workers and sho

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real empathy with the middle class and he was a nationalist, so he was very angry at China, that's all he talked about before he announced his candidate, what China is doing to the United States, not just to his business, but to the United States, and so on, when he you add as a candidate after the honeymoon where they wanted him to get the nomination. and they were giving him free coverage on CNN and MSNC and then when they started abusing him, I think it just radicalized him, so I think now you could say he's a staunch anti-leftist.

I don't know if you can say he's doctrinaire or conservative because on issues like, like I said, gun control or abortion, he's not as conservative as most Republicans and that's it, but on other things like the border and China is quite conservative. I think he's a realist, a pragmatist, his idea is that a conservative approach to everything within limits works, so if you're a conservative traditionalist and you don't have statues falling, you don't have names, you come to work, that the corner of the street does not change its name, you come to work, there are not many. of people defecating on the sidewalk you come to work and there are not many people injecting or fornicating and for him that is stability and they represent instability and now you can put instability versus stability in conservative Democratic political terms but he is not a person who says to himself I am a small government, low tax deregulatory person ideologically, he is a pragmatist and right now it is very pragmatic to stop the awakened Revolution.

I guess the reason I ask is because if Trump doesn't endorse DeSantis, if DeSantis wins the nomination, then that doesn't seem very smart to me from a conservative political perspective, you know you'd want to get rid of Joe Biden, it's not about you, it's about putting a Republican in power, but just moving, maybe you can comment on that very briefly, but Just a quick question about DeSantis. Does the scientist remind you of anyone else throughout American history? Is he Barry Goldwater? Is he the Ronald Reagan? He doesn't have Reagan's charisma, but who does? He, he, he, himself, is building himself, he is a traditionalist, capable and competent person.

He is returning to the white Eisenhower tradition. I was a general. I know how things work. People forget that they say good. Ike was very liberal, he was quite conservative. I mean, when the Korean War heated up, I gave a message to Stalin that I was willing to use nuclear weapons if necessary to prevent more Chinese from crossing the yellow and he did a lot of things that everyone forgets and he had a very conservative position in taking on the military industrial complex and this idea that we were going to be interventionists around the world and take on the responsibilities and duties of the British Empire. a very controversial idea and he was pretty conservative, he was a guy from Kansas, so when I think DeSantis is like that, he's very suspicious of nation building, very suspicious of corporations, and yet, like Ike, he's not a candidate extravagant or charismatic. he's running on his resume and his um his experience so I think I think he's more in that mold uh but you're not going to have an exciting electric populist candidate coming out.

Trump was more like that and uh, he was, but uh. no, no, I don't think we're going to see Descent, he's more like an Eisenhower character and that's good for him. I think people, after all the psychodramas and traumas, want to go back to normal, oh. someone like Harding or Coolidge Coolidge is a good example, he said after the First World War and the whole Progressive Movement and all the problems with Wilson, he just the UN, I mean, in the League of Nations and everything that just happened I mean, let's go back to where he was and he was a very effective president, but he wasn't a guy who was spellbinding in the pulpit from a British perspective.

I hope Rhonda Santis isn't like Eisenhower because we had some problems there with Suez, but yeah, exactly, yeah, well. Many Americans think it was a critical mistake. I'm not sure Ike was the point man in that decision, as the people around him were, but I mean, if you have an ally and the ally does things that maybe you don't do. but the ally is in danger after they started and it doesn't look so good so what you do is duplicate the alloy at Sephora that's what we should have done and when you don't you will collapse.

British rule was a problem area, so it was a big mistake and potentially led to communism in Egypt, but anyway, Andrew Santos' foreign policy on Rondo Santa's foreign policy, we know he's been a little bit cautious, He said the Ukraine conflict. it was a regional conflict, but then he backed off a little bit on that with Piers Morgan, what do you think Ronda Santos's position is in terms of his foreign policy? She's not that different from Donald Trump. He's a Jacksonian, if that helps me. I don't like that term conservative, there is no best friend, a dateby swetonius about the dictator so there is no better friend There is no worse enemy and his idea is that you build a huge army and you perfect it and use it in Choice locations both for a symbolic effect and to defend your interests and those of your allies and Trump does it he did pretty well so everyone said he was an isolationist but he killed Solomonie and took out uh. baghdadi neutralized Isis he told North Korea if you keep doing it you will have problems he did it he was the only president during the Bush administration during the Obama administration during the Biden administration they all have one thing in common Russia crossed its borders with Assatia, with Ukraine and with Crimea, they were not respected, so I think DeSantis is more or less the same: giving the Ukrainians the means to defend their own territory, but not giving them the means to carry out preventive or offensive operations in the Black Sea. within Russia that will go against the interests of the United States and furthermore, I think that the geostrategist, whatever the particular policy of Ukraine, must be aware that there are cosmic forces that are at work that do not favor the the Western Alliance and that is the attraction towards The China-Russia partnership and the rehabilitation of Iran and Turkey's defection from the NATO alliance is now gravitating towards China and Russia the idea of ​​allies like India continuing to buy weapons from Russia keep buying Russian oil it's breaking down both our allies and our neutrals and it's creating new alliances on this and we can't, I mean, when you've strategically staked Geo in Ukraine and given them 140 billion and then China steps in and says They would like to negotiate after no. spend a penny and the Ukrainian president thanks it and says it is a good development.

I don't think they want to mortgage their entire foreign policy and the stability of the world on that particular government or country, especially given their historical relations with Russia. It means that Crimea has been Russia and since 1780 and a third of Western Ukraine was Polish until 1939 and was reified by Style in his Soviet Ukraine Dash of 1945 and that provoked Stalin's famous joke: How many divisions does the Pope have when people in Potsdam? he said well you can't just give stolen rewards and Hitler you know you have to take this back to Poland and Cholin says well they may be Roman Catholics but how many divisions of the Pope there were and they just annexed it so we're in this situation Orwellian in which we say that Crimea, which had been Russia since 1781, we have to get to the brink of nuclear war to restore it, but we have a third of Western Ukraine that was Polish for a thousand years, speaking as a whole, for a thousand.

Only in years since 1946-5-6 has he been Ukrainian. That's just one example of the myriad of issues that we in America don't understand when we get angry and say, "You know, let's go to Moscow," it's crazy and I don't think Mr. Blanken or Mr. Sullivan or Mr. Biden or do any of these people have any idea of ​​the complexities of that situation and the degree to which the withdrawal from Afghanistan is saying you know it's just a minor incursion or winking at Putin when he was carrying out a cyber war against We Destroy our sense of deterrence and then we overreacted, I think, by suggesting that we were going to take back every inch of Ukraine one way or another and that's not going to happen.

There is no way in the world that Ukraine has the means to take. In all of Crimea or in the entire border area, it is simply not going to happen. I mean, obviously, that could be a negotiation tactic and everything else, but I know you're an ancient historian and this might be a bit of a silly question. because this was thousands of years ago, but do you have any ancient wisdom that you can share and give Ronda Santis and Donald Trump what are their one lessons from the ancient world that they should be thinking about when you have these great leaders of ancient times? world, whether it is Pericles, Pamanagas or Caesar, they all have one thing in common and they do not have a concept like ours of populism, but they had seen the same schizophrenia that when people boasted about it, we said that we went to Harvard or We went to Yale and people accepted that because it was not aristocratic or snobbish, but a sign of peers, they had the same idea that my parents were this or my parents were that I come from this particular branch of uh Hall, an aristocratic family. but the most important thing was his personal behavior, so the payment is the theben who destroyed the Spartan hegemony dressed very simply and ate with his men and Caesar was known to sleep on the battlefield with his men and Pericles, although He was supposedly an Olympian, he had a personal touch, he had empathy for people and so I think that was the success of Donald Trump to the extent that the other day he went into a pizzeria and bought pizza for people, whenever a Republican can do that because they start with The Ossified Fossilizer Stereotype that they are the golf course aristocrats, when we know that the Democrats are now the party of the very rich, but still that stereotype persists and Trump understood it and was constantly trying to eat McDonald's , eat ice, you know, just Gorge food. and his accent was a queen's accent that bothered many Manhattanites and I think DeSantis is the same as they understand that this new Republican is not going to fall into the fallacy that Mitt Romney has to defend himself from having an elevator or five cars or horseback riding or John McCain can't remember which of the 11 houses he supposedly owned or the bushes went after the bushes the same way he was born with a silver spoon in his mouth and all that, but uh, silver foot in his mouth.

I think and Richard said of George H.W Sr., so I think this new Republican party has deliberately tried to become, both symbolically and politically, in concrete and real terms, the party of East Palestine, Ohio, that is its constituency and the irony is that scientists actually grew up. he was in that East Palace area in the Ohio, Pennsylvania Borderlands and he's more of a middle class person, but Trump has a natural affinity for working class people. I think he understood that he couldn't run a real estate business without having some connection to the people who worked for him in the most physical, muscular sense, so that's mine and that's always what great leaders have.

I mean, Alexander the Great was an aristocrat, but he fought against the whites alongside his men when he crossed the Gadrosian. desert, he ruined it and left them all on a wild goose chase they were dehydrated and then they gave him water and he poured it on the ground in front of everyone and said not a drop very different from Napoleon, you know, in the He said Russia or the campaign of Gaza as he let his men die on the field and said my men wouldn't want the Emperor of France to die this way and he left, but that was an idea that you are one with your To be fair to Napoleon, I think he tried take care of his men, while Wellington perhaps made fun of his man a little more, he said they scared them more, he was more afraid of his own men than the enemy.

Another person who understands the American conservative movement, the new Republican Party, is Tucker Carlson and he obviously left his position at Fox News earlier this week. What do you think will be the impact of Tucker Carlson leaving that very popular show he had? every 8 p.m. on Fox News well I think everyone is baffled because apparently the reason was that they had settled for 757 million with a domain and no one can understand that either because that was greater than the market cap, how can you do more damage than the network ? value of their entire product and then, more importantly, when they suddenly established precedence.

Fox made it so that a network that has hundreds of guests every month can't be held responsible for whatever a Looney guest or a wayward speaker is, any more than MSNBC or CNN or ABC could be sued because they had people ranting every day saying that the computer Hunter's laptop was authentic and that caused a lot of damage, I mean, it damaged the warped race, so I think they shouldn't have settled and then after the discovery process of that. and two other lawsuits there were internal messages and apparently the narrative is that Tucker, I think you or I, if someone received all of our internal emails and look what we sometimes say in a heat of passion, we wouldn't want them published, but would that?

I mean I don't think in Syria there's a serious cause to fire them other than an emotional one because if you look at all the hosts and all the guests who may have contributed to the settlement at Dominion, he was one of them. Of the few who said I'm not putting Sidney Powell here anymore, I don't want to hear anything unless you can back it up with data within 48 hours, I had abandoned any idea that rumors about inaccuracies or misinformation on these voting machines were viable, so it wasn't that, but it was a critique of the Corporate Elite and I think at the top of the Murdoch family they had just established themselves, they didn't want to go all the way to Delaware.

They saw this. I felt like it was a betrayal and then in the heat of passion over the weekend they fired him and I think before we fired them they thought Fox is bigger than any anchor, we fired Bill O'Reilly and guess what Tucker showed up and has the same size audience or larger and then we let Megan Kelly go to NBC and we brought in Laura Ingram and we restored, we stopped that bleeding and we can do it because people tune in because I don't think they understand the brand. It's not like that, it's cumulative, it's like a cut, a cut, a cut and each one magnifies the last, so when you get rid of Bill O'Reilly and Megyn Kelly and call Georgia too soon, I mean Arizona . too soon and you go up and down and Newsmax and its competitors sneak in and take over your audience, they've lost over $800 million in stock.

Newsmax has doubled its audience in eight or nine key Eastern time slots, it's lost about a million viewers that way, and Brian Kilmate, who's taking its place, is a pretty good newscaster, so I'm not sure. that they can find someone like that who is fun, personable and knowledgeable, but B and, more importantly, Paul Ryan is borderline on the news board. Corp and News Corps own The Wall Street Journal, so it's the epitome of Doctrine conservatism, but Doctrine air conservatism is not what conservatives are now, the Romneyites, which is why they needed Tucker Carlson to appeal to the new Republican Party and so what do I mean?

With that, everything was talking about the absurdity of wokeness and I don't know where you can find someone like that who has the ability to articulate those positions but isn't crazy, especially Tucker, who comes from one of the richest families in California. an aristocrat, his grandfather and his family were Miller Lux, who is the largest landowner in California in the 19th century, on his mother's side, it was the Swanson food company, he went to high school, so he was raised like that as an aristocrat to become a populist and yet Knowing how the aristocratic mind works is very unusual and Bill O'Reilly had certain gifts because he came from a kind of tabloid journalism and understood the earthiness of the news and the audience that they taught Fox one and that's why I'm getting.

The thing is, Tucker was able to stop the bleeding of a news story from America or Newsmax or all the other right-wing rivals. They said: why go to those guys when you have someone who is more responsible and learns it but can still engage on the same topics? So I don't know where they got that person from and I think in the immediate week it shows, but just to summarize, Fox was trying to tell everyone and they let Don want Dan Bongino gone. There are rumors and maybe Judge Jean, Judge Dean or maybe. María barceloma all these people are telling them You are vulnerable, there is no one bigger than the Murdochs and News Corps, if you go on the news and say things that put us in legal danger or talk about us personally, we will say goodbye to you and we will say goodbye to the undisputed Tucker Carlson, if you think you're better than the Carlson couple, try it and that's the message, I think, and I don't know what's in store for us to talk about, but that's all said when you look. to someone like Joe Rogan or Ben Shapiro or what Megan Kelly has done with her streaming all these people have divorced from they don't go to Fox they don't go to television and yet in terms of reach and earnings they are far more successful, so I think even though Tucker would supposedly get two more years for $20 million a year, given his attractiveness and talent, he could probably make more than that with his own place now, that wasn't true 20 years ago 10 I wouldn't. was This was true five years ago, but we have so fragmented the media business that you and I are talking about right now that we don't have to go on television to do that, you don't need to be on a BBC and I think that's the The Murdochs' messages aren't quite, they don't quite understand that when you take someone who had greater potential elsewhere and was a valuable asset anchoring your entire nightly lineup and you fire them in a fit of rage or anger without thinking it through.

You have to be very careful because you will not be able to replace that one.guy; that's the impact on Fox News, but very briefly, can you describe the impact on the broader conservative movement because, as you said, Tucker Carlson was able to push certain boundaries of acceptability, um, and he can't do that on one platform anymore. So broad, yes, you could get a podcast or you can create your own show, but I guess that will have less impact on the ordinary apolitical American voter who might have gone on Fox News at 8 p.m. m. on a weekday, you know, on a weekday, then the most active Republicans who are going to go out and look for Tucker on YouTube anyway, if you know what I mean, certainly the left would agree with what you're saying now they are celebrating AOC and people say things like we don't believe in the culture of the Council, but we are on the Council, that's what they say, they think they defeated him, they criticized him every day, they said he was a racist, they said he was a transferable homophobe and they think that they eventually got that position they should have been making hundreds of millions of dollars in advertising, but they were able to cut their income by 30 or 40 percent through boycotts that put pressure on the corporations that were going to boycott them if they bought time and they feel that that is a paradigm that is now successful and they are going to use it but I don't think it's going to restrict uh what we're talking about is for a good The night Tucker got three and a half million viewers and that's pretty good, It was almost like a free event.

You can go on network news for free and get about 4 million on one of the Nightly News and some nights it had four and five million and so on. I was basically telling America that they would pay a lot of money for a cable subscription and yet more people would watch me than what is free on NBC or CBS, that was an unusual development, but that's said when you look at that audience. It's not that big and so there are all these other places, they are those places affected by this. I think that's your question: Is Joe Rogan saying, "Oh my God, I have to be careful," or is Dinesh D'Souza or Ben Shapiro saying we do?

I can't do that there is the daily cable The Daily Caller they say this the people in the secondary stack say we better retire no, not at all, in fact, I think they are going to be the opposite, they feel wow, there is a big empty now there is an audience of three and a half million people and we are going to go after it. I think that's the point. Newsmax and Glenn go back to the paper, everyone is trying to say ah, we're the place where we don't censor you. but I don't think there's anyone in the conservative movement who is saying that maybe those who never succeed, but hey, I'm glad he got what Howard Stern, you know, I'm glad he got what he could have wanted, but no one Plus, many people are. very angry about that, what can Republicans learn from the 2022 midterm elections?

Are you worried about the influence of big tech AI? These new developments in technology influence 2024 and how can we Pro, how can we ensure that elections are free and fair in 2022? He told us there is no margin for error. I think he told us that on the issues that the country is with the Republicans when closing the board, he put all the Republicans who ran in 2022 in each race and all the Democrats, the Republicans had three. and half a million more people vote for your candidates, so on the border, on crime, on energy, on foreign policy, on inflation, on interests, everyone is with you, but that doesn't matter because you should have eliminated them and not They did, and the answer was that first of all you have to get, you don't have any margin of error about the candidates you have to get.

I like Dr. Oz in Pennsylvania, but if they had nominated the other guy, you would have won and I liked it. many of the candidates, but the guy Pent, the governor of Pennsylvania, didn't have a chance, so it's very important that it be viable. The other thing is that Democrats have now stopped trying to persuade 51 percent of the people that the open border is good or that the district attorneys in New York, Baltimore or Minneapolis are doing what we need by releasing the criminals or that we really need to cut oil and gas or inflation, it's not so bad that they gave up. don't even try to defend it, they never mention anything in detail except they say the border is secure or something, but they use the word safe because they know they can't say: I'm so happy the border is wide. open, so what does that mean?

It means they are resorting to the process. They want to make sure that on Election Day in 2024, 70 to 75 percent of people, depending on the particular state, don't vote on Election Day. They did not vote on election day. they don't want someone to show up on their own volition with an ID like they're writing a check and voting, they feel like they're going to lose every time they want people to mail in ballots, and secondly, they feel like with nine trillion dollars in market capitalization in Silicon Valley that a certain Mark Zuckerberg can write a check for $419 million and absorb the work of the registrars and maintain electoral districts and basically take over them and it works, and that's how I think the Republicans will be if they are going into this presidential election saying the polls show that all the problems are on our side the polls show that Wanda Santos or Donald Trump are ahead of Joe Biden by two or three points they are in serious trouble because they will use social assistance they will have certain protocols about the votes and they will bring in so much money you have 50 intelligence officers who come to light at the behest of Anthony Blinken about the Biden campaign and swear that this is Russian disinformation, it looks like Russian disinformation and they nullify a story, we must assume that they are not stupid, so 'We're going to look back at 2020, and they're going to say, Wow, we had a dysfunctional candidate and we have an incumbent with a very successful record and we destroyed him through these institutional processes and that's what we suddenly changed.

In the United States, we went over 30 percent. voting absentee 30 percent voting in person and that was by their own will and deliberate policy they wanted that so I don't know how you fight the Republicans they get excited and say they know what we have the bases. We are ahead in the polls now the issues favor us but that won't work. They are going to have to get very intelligent and skilled people who understand the voting process and they need a whole team of lawyers. These are things. we have never experienced before we have always said they were from the third world we are the third world country the United States has no moral authority to lecture anyone about the integrity of the ballots we are third world stabbers thank you very much Victor for joining us always appreciate your time is fine, thanks for inviting me