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Scarab, but it still has the seats that are on runners that you can move, it's still a big open space, a big open space and a flat floor, mhm, so it still has a lot of the features that the original Stout concept had a style a little more updated so the gauge doesn't look like a Ford gauge, a proprietary gauge or maybe I don't know, unfortunately there is no odometer Bellows R Bellows 40 lb which should I know the tire right Correct tires 34 oh, if you look front in your hand, it has air suspension, you really see the bag, so they were way ahead, yeah, I mean, this has bag suspension, yeah, right, and there's the air, the air valve right on the top right above the license plate on the inside I don't know if you can see it from your angle right here Yeah, this is a minivan from the 1940s, we basically have more car bubbles to open, so I'm looking at it, it's styled Wheels.

I have the wood trim, it's a Town and Country and it's a special order for a speed manual gearbox. It actually has one if you can get close to the side and look at it. It actually has a gear shift. It's a four. speed, you know what I mean, here's a car that we all took for granted for so many years and then this really was a step forward in automotive design and technology and again historically on multiple levels, it was Ak Coca's baby , Ford tried it. For years, the first thing he did when he came to Chrysler was put into effect that Chrysler was bankrupt and they were trying not to close the doors and the real revolution in this is that he shares all the suspension parts everywhere.

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, yes, they actually designed it so that a lot of the parts came to all platforms and it saved them a ton of tooling costs. It's one of the things that saved the company. I told them we would reveal or unwrap some of the more interesting

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. Why am I unwrapping a minivan? You know what? because this is a pretty important car, everyone has a Volks truck story. Oh, you know, my dad had one and you know we used to go to the beach with him. Whatever. I think everyone has a minivan story and this is the vehicle that started it. the whole minivan revolution that every other car company had to follow because it set a new direction for family vehicles.

So what year is this? 84. So, this one is 40 years old. Tell us what's special about this car, if you look inside. It's like you said it's a first generation Dodge Caravan, but if you look between the seats, it's a factory ordered four speed with four with four speed, that's amazing, so look at the seats, I mean they look completely new. if you look at the pedal, the clutch pedal, the brake pedal, it looks like the rubber is still crunchy, it's not completely worn out, so if you look at the odometer it's 07878, so it has 7878 M on this car, but it's funny because when people come back here and look at it, they say, wow, you guys have a minivan, Henry Ford has one on display, right, I've seen it, I mean, it was a game changer at the time, the minivan was an extension of the platform type. of the K car that could be bought. car, two door, four door, convertible truck, they all run on the same philosophy, front wheel drive, four cylinder, and they were amazing, and you know Chrysler still makes a version of this today, when was it, when was the last time that you saw it? one this pretty, I'm, I'm, I'm happy to see this.

I would have this four-speed car. I love it. I would put a rack there with surfboards. Be my modern Woody. Make sure you delete the post. I could probably leave it at that, so what are we looking at here? It's a 1916 Packard Twin Six touring car that was owned by Henry Joy and Henry Joy was the president of Packard at the time. Wow it probably has things that other Packers didn't but the only thing I noticed here maybe I'm wrong but it has a built in parking light, driving light, fog light right in the headlight, yes optional on the bigger cars and then if you look inside, uh on the floor, it's got a speedometer, you know, it's got a lot of extra stuff, oh yeah, so 27.7 40 Mi on this, and this is powered by what engine is that big Packer twin six, are these a pressure relief for compression, yes. so twin six, were they really two six cylinder engines with a common crankshaft or that?

Don't know. What I

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interesting about this car is the Lincoln Highway logo here and even on the Lincoln Highway engine gauge. I happen to know a little about the Lincoln Highway because I wrote a book about driving a Model T across the United States on the Lincoln Highway. The Lincoln Highway was the first Cross Country Road built, it was not built as a highway, so to speak, if there was a highway going. in this direction, another one this way, another one this way, they just mapped them together and there was a way to go from Eastern Terminus which was on Manhattan 42nd Street on Broadway, right next to the HM store.

I'm not sure. The F clothing was there at that time all the way to the Golden Gate Bridge in San Francisco, wow, and most of the way across the country is Highway 30 all the way to Montana and Highway 30 becomes Interstate 80, so that the speed limit there is 80 and a lot of those trucks go 90 and I'm in a Model T doing 35 uh, it was interesting, so what's the story with this car and the Lincoln Highway? Well, Joy was a supporter of the Lincoln Highway and in fact this car was at the dedication ceremony for the Lincoln Highway which was in 1913.

I think you already know that 1913 was the beginning of the Lincoln Highway so this would have been the end. This is when the two roads joined together. We have pictures of this where you know they have the tape and they're literally out there with the tape and this car is in the background? Wow, those are commemorative pieces that were given to the people who were at the Lincoln inauguration ceremony. I wonder where. that was in the middle of the country, maybe so, the Packer plant is 10 or 15 miles from here and you have no idea how big it is, it's like 1.5 million square feet, it's not like a shopping center and You know it was all done right there.

Upholstery paint manufacturing, amazing facilities, it ran its course, ask a guy who owns one, was the advertising slogan and, uh, they're great cars and the fact that this is here in 1916, so 10,109 years later or something just amazing, just amazing, well. That's a color like candy apple red. In fact, I had it in Otama and Jee Winfield came up and went. I don't remember if I painted this one or Jeff, so I walked around it for a while and looked. and he says, I think Jeff made this one because I don't remember, so naturally I chose this one.

Okay, do me a favor, how would you have painted these? It goes well with this, it's nitrocellulose, so you do about 20. coats, let it sit overnight, sand, do a bunch more coats and then take it outside and look at it, walk around it and if it's clean and it's not modeled nowhere, then he polishes it, if not, he scrapes it. another bunch of coats until it looks how you want it to look, so this car has been repainted once since its original debut. It raced on the car show circuit in '63 and then was on the design when they debuted.

Mustang in '64 at the World's Fair, this color isn't that inspiring, but there are 20 times as many Cobra enthusiasts as there are Cobras on Earth and these cars stand out, probably two of the

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st Cobras ever built. Although they don't look like a cobra, tell us how your museum came to own these cars. Well, I can tell you what we know. Okay, of course, as you know, these cars are half guess, myth, urban lore, and Detroit. It's full of stories from urban automotive tradition, uh, we know the basic history of them, we know that was a show car, it was a New York car, it was the car of the year at the New York car in '63 in the one from when They debuted with the Mustang in '64 the bordon a cobra pictures uh so one was actually the stepsister of the Cobra, they were given to the museum in the '80s, both in the same lot, we got these two cars with a cut Cobra engine, a cut Explorer transaxle and in that lot.

Again, I'm thinking on a guess, it means they were supposed to be removed earlier, since the show cars usually found them in a warehouse and said okay, we have to get them out of here because they've been off the books for 20 years. and now all of a sudden they're here, so all we know is that someone from Ford came to us and said, we have these vehicles, would you like them for your collection? and of course, who wouldn't want them for their collection? This was 40 years ago, yes. Yes, we've had them for a while and, as you say, they've been away for a few engagements.

Famously the Shelby group came and prepared them clean for the S when the Society of Automotive Engineers convention was here and they were in the lobby um they've been to a couple of Concourse obviously we talked about it in Detroit when you and I met we put together um but you know it's amazing to have in collections and I tell everyone I'm the automotive industrial curator. I know a lot about all these cars. I don't know everything about any of these cars, so the opportunity to have these cars here with an original Cobra and someone with Jim's knowledge.

I mean, it's been a great learning experience for me, so I brought my friend Jim Maxwell here and Jim next time I invite you to be on a show, you know, I mean, would you really wear clean clothes if you've seen this program for any amount of time? You know Tom Cotter is a crazy guy who wanted to. to show you what I think is one of the best examples of a 289 Cobra ever built, it's the only one ever painted this color, it's actually a Lincoln color, a metallic green, and the reason we have this here is to show you when this car was first released. presented Ford was already planning to build a more stylized version now think about this, this is a beautiful car, but in the 60's the Jaguar e type, Aston Martin and Ferrari came out, this car had an outdated look when it was new, so Ford bought a A couple of cobras remove the bodies.

I know it sounds like a sin these days and they remade what they thought would be a cobra from the

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. No matter how much I know about cobras, Jim knows a lot more than I do, so Jim flew from there. I visited his home in North Carolina to check out the detailed differences between these two cars and an original Cobra, so this is car number 367 built, this is the eighth Cobra built, if you can believe it, this car rolled off the line production looking like that stripped down car. I removed the body and built a new body on a cobra chassis.

I'm going to turn it over to Jim for a moment to talk about the differences. Now let me tell you the difference here. This is a later 289 and you can look. the wire wheels are 6 inch wire wheels which are a 5 and 1/2 wire wheel this is also the Worman sector steering system on this car and this is a rack and pinion a more advanced system but below this car and that's what I've been doing getting dirty is climbing underneath and seeing that this is actually a body trapped in a cob brid like this, the instruments in a fancy padded Dash are like the instruments on one of the early 260 Cobra, this one has a four speed transmission and you look inside the shift knob it's the same as the previous Cobra emergency brake handle it's the same as a previous Cobra these are the first original Cobra seats they still have the mechanisms underneath uh just like the Cobra does and they put little chrome inserts in the seats just for taste Turning them up a bit the car has an undercar exhaust that was never finished on this car meaning this car never executed the design.

Engineers determined that the rear window would fly off at high speed, so they created a mesh under the rear window on the inside. and there is a panel that the engineer said would open at high speed to relieve the pressure. The engine of this car is a 260 V8. It has been disassembled and probably never operated. The headers, intake manifold and carburetor were gone. It has a very interesting appearance. Although it has an alternator and all 260 cars and even some of the first 289 cars had generators, this is the only car I have seen that has a mechanical tack connected to the alternator, it is the same alternator that is in the green cobra they extended the range quite a bit front of this car, there's probably 12 inches or more of bodywork, the original Cobra stopped right here and everything that's extra to us, this car is now an icon, but it started to look aged in the past because compare this to a Jag type E.

You know it looks like an old car. Well, not only did it have an old look on the outside, but it also has a buggy suspension, so you know if you were a hot roder back in the day. Suspension sheetsDaylight crossbows generally ran parallel, one on the left side and one on the right side, and if you put shackles on them, you could put larger rims on them. This one had a different type of leaf spring, one that went from the left side to the right side in the front and one that runs backwards here and that was the suspension, so its camber and caster couldn't touch it, the only thing it should do It's altering the length of the lease ring, which is a big deal, so these usually had weird suspension setups in the front versus the rear.

You could adjust the trailer and that's it. This is serial number CSX 3001, which was the first serial numbered Cobra chassis with coil spring suspension, so Jim has spent the most time under this car. and he can give you the details on Gory so take it Jim ok this car was built on a 427 chassis unlike the other car that was shipped as a complete Cobra and had the body removed this one was shipped as a chassis with a differential suspension driveshaft but no engine all the support structures for the body that were present on that car when it arrived were not on this car there was only a Scuttle hoop which is just a cross hoop for the instrument panel has a 289 Engine never had a 427 or a 428 this car has Mustang seats that are different than the other cars that have their original Cobra seats this car never had Cobra seats this car has Smith calipers the 427 Cobras did have but again this car did not It came with meters.

I got under it and this car really worked. They had a male exhaust manifold that went forward then went down to the main frame pipe and out the back and there is evidence of exhaust residue on the rear panel so we know it worked, this car has a Mustang steering wheel, it has a Ford logo on the dashboard, it has an automatic transmission and if we go back to the rear, Mr. CER, in his great knowledge of trivia, has already identified them as Riviera tail lights and in fact the curator confirmed that these They are taillights from a 1963 Riviera.

I'm going to jump in here for a moment Jim, where are the serial numbers on this car? Ah, great question, the serial number of this car is right here under this piece that was welded together. On the Ford stylus it usually says CSX 3000 whatever and it is about a half inch below this tube so the serial number is not visible on this car. Would you say that these two cobras are the

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st cobras on Earth? I would say that is exactly the case sitting in a bubble in Detroit two of the rarest cobras in the world and every cobra is rare 998 cobras were built that means 996 cobras plus these two, we are very lucky to have been invited here, it's hard to understand, so this was built in 63 or 62, it was built in 62 and it shows as 63, so it must have a lot of Falcon and hand made parts and all that.

It's interesting that over and over again we talk about automotive tradition and being in Detroit. I had this on display at the Detroit Autorama. A guy shows up and says, uh, your car belongs in a museum, is that the real one? Yeah, well, my friend has one. which he thinks could be an original. I've seen pictures of that Mark hos the guy's name, super guy, so his friend says, but could I get your card? Be sure to give him my card the next morning. 7:00 Markus standing at the door waiting for me. Can we see this? I'll tell you how we are at the exhibition, but if you want to come back on Monday, when I take it to the museum, I'll be happy.

I'll show you whatever you want, so again. Speaking of getting knowledgeable people, Marcus spent 20 years documenting his car so Mark knows where every stamp number is, so the front is Fairlane, some of the rocker stuff is Falcon, some of it, but almost none of it is numbers. of real Mustang stampings, I bet that, again, having someone who has that knowledge base about that specific car for a historian is invalid because I have so many that it would be difficult to know everything about all of them, I mean, a car with original paint, yeah man yeah she's a Survivor look how this sem lights up the taillight, the taillights on the Mustang look interesting, so that's the first appearance of the Mustang on the front of the car, which It's the first running Mustang in the front of a Mustang, that other car is the real thing.

Also what he thinks and it's not my story to tell what happened is because the front, nose and tail are hand formed and I mean obviously what he thinks is that someone took those pieces out of the design and put them on. on a production car so the car they are in is an early production 642. So does it have a lower ceiling like this? It's not okay to take out my uh, my hood tool. Every car has a story, you know, and if you look between the back seats of this Mustang that's between the back seats, that's the only time the Mustang appears in a car, you see how it's a 3/4 view of the Mustang working, yes, yes, yes, very different board, wow, is this it? 260 look at those two four wheelbarrows wow yeah dual quad dual quad rise man generator two fan belts power steering manual brakes look at this air filter it's like homemade oh look at this yeah experimental it has an exp serial number so it's oh because there X right there and part of this car, I suppose, would fit. on a Mustang, it probably wouldn't be maybe the shift knob, yeah, there you go, this has been a really special event for us, having

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F being invited into a warehouse that's not open to anyone, uh, I met Dave at the Detroit Auto Show.

A few months ago at Detroit Concourse, the elegance, we became friends and we exchanged business cards and you know here we are, so you didn't give me, you gave all the guys and girls that are watching the show the opportunity to see what it's not. open to the public so man, I have to thank you for that, well, we're happy to have you, you know, I'd like to welcome you with open arms on behalf of the Detroit Historical Society, you know, our job is to preserve. The history of Detroit and the more we can share the better it will be for everyone so our goal is always to push the message of saving Detroit and our culture and our history and as we know cars are a big part of our culture and history here in Detroit