Highlights as London mayoral candidates go head-to-head | LBC debate

So not only have we built three times as much affordable housing as Boris Johnson, we have only built 10 times as much council housing as Boris Johnson. Look at the rest of England, we are building twice as much council housing as the rest of England combined. 65,000 affordable homes. of all the houses that were completed under his predecessor, it was 90,000, well no, that's not right because what happened is this since 2016, more council houses, more affordable houses in general, more completions, more than double the rest of the country as a whole and what became K St. My launch, as I announced, is an injection of money for truly affordable housing and I can promise that a large proportion of it will then come to London.

Don't be sorry, sorry, move on. I was just going to say we need to make sure. that really affordable is really affordable because many times it includes shared ownership, which we know from many Londoners, that that is not affordable, so we really need to look at what that definition of affordable means in the London Susan Hall plan. Why didn't they commit to rent control given the average rent in London in March was £2,600 because it doesn't work and rents are too high? I agree that we need to build more houses, it works there and it can work.

London, if we had a lettings commission full of tenants who could keep an eye on the market and make sure it doesn't collapse, it could absolutely work in London, so this is something we don't agree on: there aren't enough rental properties. and that's the problem and that's the problem, the reason conservatives oppose rent controls and rent freezes is because they are in the pockets of landlords, so so do you, your Party National, the number of Tor MPs who are landlords is Staggering my Manifesto is quite clear if I am re-elected 6,000 rent control houses 40,000 we have millions of people in London that will make no difference I have the power to bring this I have the power to bring rent control houses I have funding in relation to rent control of R6,000 control of 40,000 council homes.

Free legal advice for those tenants who have unreliable landlords, but it is also important for everyone else to be a really important licensing system for accommodation. Promise after promise after promise. Eight years, look at the situation we are in now, all you do sadik is throw numbers that when people try to analyze and look at them, then you throw another load of numbers, no one believes you anymore, at least he has them because I've looked at your Construction Manifesto, there are six paragraphs and you want to build, you want to get pension funds to build more, build to rent properties, yes, so how many does London have and how many more do you want?

Well, I have said all along that I will not give numbers of my Manifesto, everything that is there can be delivered, everything that is there is what can be delivered about the amount of because I have sat and listened to Sadik Khan promising to Earth for the last seven years that I have been. in the assembly I promised to do this and we have started I'm going back we do it you can't live in the beginning it's all it does it has had billions of pounds billions govern it may not deliver it will get pension funds to build a number yet not confirmed build to rent property yes CU I'm not going to give you a number and I'm not going to keep what's good for the mat, how good is that for the mat and others, in all honesty what's the point when you only hear numbers thrown You can't believe it because Sadik Khan has thrown so many numbers at us and he hasn't given up Suan Hall.

Who did you commit to? Yes, I did and I actually committed before Sadique Khah did. Not what. I did and that can be documented that has been documented I have accepted that yes and it will continue for another year Universal free school meals yes and when we look at the cost of living perhaps we should remember that Selik Khan has increased council tax by 70% since he arrived , you came to that at one point, you said relatively recently, although didn't you think that the idea of ​​universal school meals was wrong and would allow the children of millionaires to receive a free school meal at the expense of perhaps the kids who would need it, but I still said I'll keep going and you change your mind about this, no, no, I said I'll keep going.

It is documented late last year before Sadi Khan said he would not oppose the principle of taxes paying for free school meals for already rich London children who need feeding. I think they should have high quality nutritional food and that is what we have agreed to continue for Another year, how much does that cost? 140 million KH. Would you continue this for middle school kids? Well, congratulations, you have the former Conservative candidate, U-turn, live, let's be quite clear, because Zoe was there, as indeed she was. Rob last week, where I promised to extend free school meals permanently in primary schools if elected.

Universal free school meals and the Conservative candidate said the phrase "there is no such thing as a free lunch." My promise if I am re-elected is to guarantee While I am mayor, everyone who attends a state primary school receives a free nutritious meal and let me tell you the great news. I've been talking to parents, teachers, experts over the past few months. Better attendance, better attention, better productivity. They are less stressed like Holly because they know her son is getting a decent meal. So why did Sadik Khan say last week that you now agree with Susan Hall on this free school meals issue?

I have said all along that I would continue with that policy. I said that last week you were saying, I think, to someone else, that you didn't agree with the director. I think the term free. I actually said there's no such thing as a free meal and that's accurate, but I've always said I'd continue. the policy I agreed to before sadique Khan did it sadik Khan was trying to get the government to pay for it before that I said and it's documented I'll have my team find it for you it was documented I said I'll continue This year Rob Blacky, well the Democrats Liberals brought in free school meals for primary school children, so we are very happy that they decided to extend it and of course we support it because it is very important that children get the right food and that the people who are right above them the free school meals line, get more food, but to a caller's question, housing is a critical issue that we have to fix in London right now.

The lack of housing construction is what is driving up rents and mortgages. The Conservatives are the disaster of the economy, but in London we need to take control of Our Own Destiny and build more to come full circle. Do you want to take credit for the idea of ​​free school meals too? I mean everyone else. I want to answer Holly's question about the fact that families are being priced out of our city. I had an elementary school near my neighborhood and it was heartbreaking for families to see hundreds of families leave the city because they can't afford it and I think this question really speaks to the heart of the city that we want to live in.

I really support universal free school meals for primary school children and I would extend that to secondary school children and my Manifesto is full of ideas about how to make this city more affordable because that is the people's side of the issue. What am I, can I ask clearly? A cost of living issue is most obviously seen in rough sleeping, in which we have seen a 71% increase since 2016, how did that happen? under your watch, rough sleeping across the country has more than doubled from 201 respectively in London, yeah, and in London, you know, it breaks my heart what we see in London.

We have managed to get 16,000 people sleeping on the streets off the streets, a record number. % have a status that there are a number of new people coming to our streets, that's why we call them transport people who are experiencing extreme hardship as a result of becoming homeless as a result of changes in benefits like us in the number of people . It is coming to our streets, it is in record numbers, we have to get them off our streets, which is why I have promised to work with councils, charities and communities. In your last Manifesto, you apolis, promised to abolish homelessness, we have taken 75 permanently.

The whole country saw a big increase, so I was very pleased when those in the shadow cabinet announced a policy to end the hardship by the end of the decade, addressing the causes and consequences. conveyor belt of people these are the most vulnerable people in our city the reasons why they are on the streets are so many, so different, we have people with mental health problems, we have people who fight with their families, we have veterans there are so many causes different things that people are for and you would commit to getting people off the streets, ending homelessness of course, and the thing is, it's your Manifesto what you do with this Susan, can you let yourself speak?

Just be polite. to listen to me, um, what happens with people who sleep on the street, the best people, um, because I've spoken to them, are charities like Street Angels, because people who are homeless very often TR rely on those people instead of not working. No, it's not and all he keeps doing is throwing money at it because Sadik thinks if you throw money at something it will fix it and it won't fix it if they had a universal basic income and they had, well, not that. Jobs that actually work, but that's why we have tax policies that care about the homeless.

They are not going to the homeless drives tonight. They invited them. They decided to send deputies. It's true. We have removed 16,000 people who were sleeping on the street. The streets of London, I am incredibly proud to have made three quarters have AR status in good politics. You make a graph in relation to these people that there is a transporter on people and you are not going to go to the Rob and I are going to go to the election campaigns, I think just for the record, thank you, well, there are a lot of really serious problems.

Is this an absolutely serious problem? The change of opinion is evident in the results of the last eight years. The real prize is looking. In what happened in the United States, where a Labor government working with a Labor May ended the cardboard city in wloo by getting the R sers off the streets making sure they stayed away, we have already built 1500 permanent homes for those who They sleep on the street. The 3ars are out for good. We will continue to progress and I call this year's award a moment of maximum opportunity for workers. Working with the Labor government may finally end rough sleeping.

It's a scandal. Can I tell this to Susan Hall if not? I don't mind looking at the screen, here's a clip of a top Labor politician. I would like to put it before you, if I may, frankly, it would be a global shame for Britain if Susan Hall were elected Mayor of London, she would empower and Balden, the anti-et-zero Flat Earth Brigade around the world, and that's it. You know, today I want to make it clear in my support for Sadik that because the Conservatives have changed the system for electing the mayor, you only get one vote and one vote for anyone. other than sadik taking the risk of letting Susan Hall in through the back door, you're not calling Susan Hall from the Flat Earth, I'm, I'm absolutely Susan Hall, a response to that Evening Standard clip, well, the response to the clip of the Labor politician that he is. trying to defend St KH is nonsense, what I'm saying is that we of course approve of Net Zero, but not behind the backs of those who can't afford it.

Sadi Khan introduced the expansion of UL under the pretext that it would clean the air and his own impact assessment said he would not publish a paper that said it was an absolute illusion that humans can control the climate with their CO2 emissions. . Do you think not? Why did you publish it? Don't know. I'd have to see what you posted sometimes. I think it's scary because of the fact that we're in a climate emergency and you're trying to be the mayor of our great city. I agree that we need to incorporate Net Zero. Me Too We say we can't get it off the backs of the poorest, but it's not, and many of the things we do to address the climate crisis also address the cost of living crisis.

If we insulate people's homes, we lower people's bills. their emissions and if we invest in a public transport system and get people out of their cars, we will reduce emissions. That's climate leadership and taking the climate emergency seriously, by the way, throws some nonsense at M, which is the idea of ​​anyone who actually thinks they areconservatives. I can win in London and I'm not just saying this because I'm not a conservative. I got this letter from the Conservative Party the other day admitting that they couldn't win in London even bold enough to say please vote Conservative.

I think it's like a sign that they are. I think Mr. there is no way he wouldn't bring the paper. Mar, he expected us to trust him in exposing the rules and that has brought so many difficulties that people have really trusted him and him. he disappointed them 60% of the people at the consultation said we don't want it he ignored them he put it in anyway he will bring the paper M the evidence is there if he really didn't want it then they wouldn't do it We have still had people working on it this year . £21 million of our money has been allocated.

Why is he spending £21m of taxpayers' money? Londoners' money. If he has no intention of bringing it, he can't be trusted and we all know he's going. Going back to what you promise, what we now know on the ballot is the choice between clean air and polluted air. I am quite clear about being incredibly proud of the policies to clean the air in London before my policies, there were thousands of children with forever atrophied lungs, too many premature deaths in our city, too many adults with a host of health problems. problems, from asthma to cancer, dementia to heart disease, you have doctors, you have GPS, you have respiratory care professionals, everyone supports my policy, the only people against, well, I think some of the things that Susan Hall has uh, done on social media, amplifying the promotion, can we go back to paper?

I love the way you want the conversation to move. The fact is that you will bring a mile of paper or you would surely not have wasted the £21 million of taxpayers' money you will bring. Put it in because that's what you've decided is a good idea, just like you decided that ulz expansion is what you wanted to bring in and that's nothing more than a tax and the worst part of it is that the tax is taxing people who just they can't pay it. If I were running a campaign based on disinformation, misinformation and lies, I would say that just because the Conservative candidate supported the Garden Bridge, he wants it back for 50 million.

More I say things like because the conservative candidate supported the water canon, she would bring it back if she were elected mayor. I say things like because the conservative candidate previously supported a ter S3 report, she will bring her back if she becomes mayor. Don't believe in those kinds of tactics, although Tom won't. Tom, you should be able to rely on her history and look at her history. It is absolutely abysmal on record all the areas you like to post calling Sadi KH a traitor. rat, you made an unfounded claim that he supported electoral fraud, you used an Islamophobic trope about London is that the reflections of a serious politician.

I have apologized on my social media a long time ago and many times and I have learned from that. I rarely use What have you learned? I've learned that you have to be very, very careful when you just move things around without a second thought. I apologized for that and I learned not just words and I learned from me and from me. I have learned from my mistakes. This is very serious because it affects me and my personal safety and that of my family. I feel safe in London run by someone who tweeted and liked that stuff.

I'm very careful with what I say now. I thought a lot about this Tom. I fought three council elections. I have thought about three parliamentary elections. This is my third election M. The conservative candidate is the most dangerous candidate I fought against. Well, I think it's an outrageous comment and you would feel safer. to Susan Hall merely because I will do things for the police force that will make Londoners safer, much safer. Look his record on security in London is terrible. This is the first time the Metropolitan Police has gone into something special. In a moment, can I answer your question?

Can I make this point clear through Susan Hall? If you won in 8 days and Sadi KH was in a position where she needed the safety equipment she currently has. you provide it, would you pay for it? Not on merit, but absolutely, and the only thing he has to admit is that I have never commented on his personal security because if Sadi needs personal security, then he absolutely should have it and in fact, that is. For the police, we have to take responsibility as politicians for what we say and our words can be incredibly damaging and some of the things you have said have been really divisive and damaging and I think all of us as politicians need to take action. responsibility, that's why I learned from mistakes that were made years ago Sadi Khan, is there a question you would like to ask Susan Hall?

I think this is the greatest thing in the world. Diversity is one of the reasons it's great. Do you regret supporting Donald Trump, who is a racist and homophobic sexist? Do you regret liking Enoch Poell? Do you regret liking Leanis and the Islamophobe? Will you apologize unequivocally for holding those kinds of views and promise to be mayor if you win? record of dividing them I don't divide communities I support all communities I come from Harrow, where it's the most diverse um bar in London. I would say it's incredible and in fact, if you look, look, apologize or not, no, if you look. in all communities we all have the same values ​​we all believe in hard work we all believe in family and we all believe in justice and we should all look at people that way we all have the same value no excuses for Trump for friends, them we'll have the last word, thank you all very much, in fact, Rob Blacky, the Liv Down candidate, Susan Hall from the Conservatives, see KH from the Labor Party and also Zoe Garbett, the Green Party candidate.