Dame Dash Heated Debate | Diddy Drama | Jay-Z Feud | PBD Podcast Ep. 395

so if you like the interviews that I do, things are heating up, this will be one of them because Dame Dash will probably be one of the most powerful players in the history of Hip Hop after signing with Kan West, the partner is Jay- Z. Rockefeller started in '95 which is a little strange because a year before that was when Tupac got shot when he went to visit Big E and then the next year '96, September 13th, is when Tupac was murdered and they started at that time where in 1995 The biggest rap songs that came out were some of the biggest rap songs ever Dear Mom, you know Coolio Gangsters Paradise, you know, I have five.

I mean, look at this list of things that came out in '95 that decided to compete with these guys. It's interesting that he said some very interesting things saying that Diddy and Biggie wanted to be like him and Jay and then he got upset, some things got

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when I asked him about Aaliyah and some of the accusations that Diddy has been going through lately, we even talked. about, you know Leor Cohen when he sat on Breakfast Club, who is d Dash and he really reacted to that in a passionate way and we talked about Trump, he kept mentioning Trump Dam, you're going to see this, you know what I'm talking about CU We had fun afterwards, but we laughed, we argued, we learned and, uh, it's going to be a very, very entertaining and interesting variety of topics that we talk about and also, Dame is now officially available, which means you can ask Dame anything . ask you whatever you want, he chooses how he answers you, but you can download the app and if you go to this QR code, you can literally text him, okay, ask him the question, pay for it and he will answer you in text format and audio format. or video format, but now it's also officially in the man answering questions that you may have, there will be parts, but you're going to say, but you know, I want to know about this, why didn't he say anything about this and what about that?

You'll be able to ask her any questions you have about M, but having said that, enjoy this very entertaining and at times very

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interview with the one and only Dame Dash. Know me, why would you bet on Goliath when we bet that David values ​​domestication? The contagious values ​​of this world are businessmen, we have no value for the haters, run, man, look what I become, I'm the one, I'm the one that's right, so in the world of hip-hop I'm a guy that emerged from the west coast side. m a I'm a Tupac. I'm purely more West Coast, but I follow a lot of the East Coast and West Coast challenges that were going on.

I'm a class of 96 in high school when I graduate and we all know what happened in '96 with Tupac but you can't mention the word hippop and talk about powerful players that directly and indirectly influence the entire game without saying the name Dame Dash , you can't and it's one of the hardest things to do in an industry like this, or any industry where a lot of people are trying to fight for power, is to try to manage three things, try to remain loved, respected and feared, it is very difficult to do and he is one of those who was able to achieve it. "Uh, the three of them loved, feared and respected, and I know, of course, there are a lot of people that maybe he's going to make some enemies while doing that, but you're talking about Rocka's fellow founder, him and Jay-Z, Uh, uh, you." We're talking about rock conscious of what he was doing, I think at 1.7 billion a year, almost a billion dollars a year.

You're talking about working directly with and hiring Kanye. If you watch Kanye's documentary you'll see the scene where Dame is sitting on the stage like this and he says you can ask Kanye a question and then Kanye gives us feedback and all the stuff that's happening again we can go on and on with names from left to right and uh uh and obviously with all the problems that are going on right now. Recently within hip hop there are a lot of names that are coming up, oh uh, a lot of the raids. I don't know if you know that a guy named Diddy had his house broken into in Los Angeles and Miami and now names are being released. she fell with Jay-Z and there are a lot of other names coming up and if anyone would like to make a list of the names of the top 10 people who can talk about those topics that they know so much about that maybe others wouldn't want them to.

Speak and be silent. I think, ma'am, you're probably on that top 10 list of people who can comment on a lot of this stuff, specifically some of the history and involvement in that. That being said, thank you for being on the

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, thank you. Great intro, how are you, how are you feeling, I'm okay, I'm a little tired, you know, you definitely shoot early, yeah, so we had to stop quite a bit, we're on the way to Gary from here, so yeah. and I was awake last night in our study, but I'm fine, but pretty well. I feel, I feel safe, you feel safe, yeah.

Define that, what do you mean by insurance? You know, I could go to sleep at night and I have to worry. things that you know and I think the most important type of wealth is to be blameless, you know, never compromised, now let me ask you, I mean, obviously, there's a lot of things that I want to go through here with the time that we have. Together, a lot of things that I want to talk to you about for a guy like you, who we watch from the other side, we've seen you in interviews in uh uh Rockefeller in stories in your fire in your interview with Breakfast.

Club boss entrepreneurship business Hurry up the fight the grind of emerging um do you still have the same fire uh as an emerging entrepreneur survival uh you still have that fire today in this phase of your life it's a different kind of fire but definitely the fire It's much more difficult, you know, it's just based on having confidence in success, so once I complete a dream, I dream big, so the fight I've been having is just staying fool free, you know, again, being in a position in which someone loves me. do something that I feel could compromise my morals or integrity.

I always had the means to say: get out of here, you know, never ask me that, no, and then also be able to be like you. I heard what they just said and then I could see people look away so in my world it's making my dreams come true and unfortunately unless you're smart enough or have someone around you who knows how to raise money. and you know how to do that kind of stuff, you have to do it yourself and sometimes you have to create your own industry if you don't want to fit into someone else's because the people who run that industry again have a different kind of morals. compass, so my fight has always been to do things fairly and do things without stealing creativity and fighting those who are stealing creativity and then keep dreaming for myself while I dream for other people, so everything I do It's a startup of my new television network America new of these glasses I have on the CEO glasses, the sneakers for the books, I'm on my way to, you know, go to school with my girl to read books, you know, you know , go talk to the mayor of Gary, who you know, Eddie Milton, who I was a big part of his election and a man who taught me how to pass laws and then I go to a jail in Chicago, a children's jail is closed because you know, if you really could.

I understand how they torture our kids when we're not looking, why that retention rate is 99%. It's because most of these children don't know how to read. They are torturing them, making them live in moldy prisons and I am not going. To say any name right now, I'm on my way to Chicago, but if they don't close that jail or fix what's wrong, I'm going to everyone you know, so that's been me being the guy protecting the people who can. They don't protect themselves other than having to make my own dreams come true without dealing with people who would make me compromise my morals and at the same time because I have so many ideas and so many different things that make things work, you know?

I have to do it myself out of my own pocket, you know what I mean, so when you dream vertically, which I am, you know, I do the octopus thing and there's always 10 different things I'm working on at the same time and you I know I'm not raising bread when a dollar comes here goes to something else the dollar comes there goes to something so the original question you're asking me is do I have that fire more than ever? I'm not using other people's money. I know. who to stay away from who do I have to stay away from so I can sleep well at night and I'm trying to help the world, you know, so again I also agree with this GSO, which are the principles that you know hundreds of principles places. with economic difficulties and I go to the schools, I talk to the principal, I talk to the teachers, you know, we have a curriculum from the womb, the 3-year-old and, like I said, this OSG has hundreds of principles from places with difficulties What I do know and what I am aware of are the real problems, the things that make the Cycles continue to happen where it is not convenient for us, but for someone else, and now I know the problems, but I know how to really bring the answers and I can do it through entertainment.

I could do it through, you know, education. It could do it through any language you speak. I can talk to you through that language, so yeah, the drive is there more because I know how to fix things. that's wrong, very cool, so and and Gimme for you, where did you get your way of thinking? Because I've had a lot of U um from Italy and from Harlem, so Harlem, but didn't you see the whole Pton movie, uh uh, yeah? Put full, but what I'm talking about is like, you know, I got it. New York was also full of a lot of Italian mobsters and they ran it a certain way and you come from Harlem and you're doing What you're doing was there was some inspiration that came from how the Italian Mop family built what they built or didn't build, definitely a big influence.

It was The Godfather, so I read the book when I was younger because I wanted to know what he was thinking. opposite of what he was saying and the ideals that came with being The Godfather, but also a big influence was that you know the people that I grew up with, you know that the honor and integrity of my family looks so cool, you know the godfather and the way he handled things, it was great to do things in a way that you know because honorable is not always convenient, it's never expedient, it always comes with a test to see if you're going to do the right thing or what's right. . easier than it seems to be and uh, yes, for God's sake, because of all those movies.

I'm young, Scarface, was it direct contact with any of them or nothing at all that you're referring to? So, for example, I had Samy from oh, did I meet any, yeah. Well, I had a barber shop on 112th Street and a guy named Chill sold it to me and we used to sell marijuana in the back and we had Bob's Stores in the front and apparently he bought it from some Italians on 116 Pleasant and uh , you know, they were trying to take the photo, but I think he sold it to me, so I had to go to Pleasant with him and then they said, hey, calm down, you have a lot of nerve and I also went to um, the school is next door. across the street from Rails, so I went to the uh manatt Center, you know, I mean, yeah, we had interaction and then you know there would be funerals that I would go to for people in my family like my grandmother and all that and all the mafia.

I used to be there, so yes, really yes, but I can't really speak to who had the biggest influence. I know you talk about so many different people, man, who, who and I guess what I am, what I am. The question is who toughened you, who taught you Street to know how to take that Street mentality from the word you said, fool free, because a lot of times, as the saying goes, when a man with money meets a man with experience , the man with money. goes with the experience, the guy with the experience goes with the money, okay, so how do you go from that world to the business world and then hey, you know, $19 million, you hire Jay-Z in a tour and then boom, you making deals?

With all these bigger guys, how did you know you could sit in front of these guys and negotiate with them? So if you saw the full payout, that was a story that actually happened. I'm about to do the TV show on my own. network or collaborate with another, but when you're in survival mode, you know it and the people around you raise you a certain way, like I was born into a code of honor and I never knew anything different and there was always responsibility, like that that if I did something that would be against the grain, it would be like having a business and a board of directors that would be very, uh, like you did, like I wouldn't be allowed to get a tattoo while I was on the street, you know, they taught me that. as if they taught me how to do everything unless for me the only way and for me a successful criminal if there is such a word is one who never goes to jail and the only way to do it is if you are advised by an OG or other criminals who do it.

They've done it before, so I got a formula for how to survive and it was just being thorough and acting a certain way and it's nothing naive, people teach, that's why we need men in our lives, men need to be raised.I was in the audience I'm curious to know I'm curious to know how you could know that someone was raping a girl just because it was written in a different sentence structure and you still think it's okay until the rest of the world says something, then I have a question for you, so you said you didn't want to comment on Diddy, right?

And I want to comment on it. I said that there are certain things, well, wait a minute, although then it is a double standard because with Diddy it has been shown that what he has done with young people, you know, speculation with young people and all those other things that are going to generate millions. I'm running around. Do you think the market needs to know? I know him, right? You do not know. Paul's puff, I don't know, you personally do well, so why should I jump to a conclusion if I don't know the guy personally? What I'm saying is, if you hear that a guy raped a 15-year-old girl, right?

Are you interviewing? he has an open invitation I don't I know you wouldn't yeah that's where we differ so I guess what I'm saying is what I was asking and again I'm not saying I'm still whiffing absolutely. I'm not saying I've ever done it, it's just that it's not my place to take anyone down while they're down unless I've had a personal problem with them, but it doesn't mean I'm GNA with them, it's just that I'm not going to do that. , but only because I know him, but honestly I'm not going to be a fan when it comes to Michael Jackson, I still listen to Michael Jackson. do while and I went to Neverland when he wasn't there with kadada you know out of curiosity well he wasn't a kid you know he would get knocked out you know what I mean but I didn't I wasn't Taking that, although I didn't agree with that so I'm just saying I wasn't a fan of him how can you be a fan of a person you know and the Reas that was using you is because what do you do? you think what the average person does, they see things that are immoral, they overlook it until it's public opinion and I'm a person that can't overlook things until it's public opinion so put it like that if I had a problem with the puff. and it may or may not have started simply after everyone started having a problem with it.

I was never at any of those parties. You never saw me in real photos with his mother in the last 20 years and I was at his party once. at the Hampton with Aaliyah Jennifer Lopez and the little one, but that's it and we left early, but just CU. I don't talk to someone in public or in private, it doesn't mean I'm going to despise them publicly, but if you despise me publicly, I will. get to you if I know you, then let me, let me go, let me go. I was just trying to tell you the temperature like we're in a world where people look the other way because when you say again what I said about Trump, is that right?

It's okay that his entire team went to jail just answer that I think I think he's a good boss I don't think anyone is being a good boss I didn't ask you that I'm asking you is it okay that his entire team went to jail? I don't think anyone is being demonized more and ask that you don't reply. I want you to answer my question. I'm independent. I am a registered independent who liked to vote for Clinton and I voted. I'm just asking you a question from an independent, if someone's entire team went to jail, is he a good guy? yeah, yes or no, I uh, it's a yes or no, but, I don't know, but I don't know, yes or no, but you're not either. give the correct answers when no, you are not because you are part of D respectfully respectfully I I respect what you have done to the space you have been a part of it is very difficult to reach the highest level I have a lot of respect for you it depends on what you consider the highest level where you have influence and are able to sit down with the bullies you said you like to bully the bully do you know which of the statements I teach my kids to do Bully to bully I tell my kids my my our new record is to hit you in the face the face, that's our anti-bullying record, yes, but the point is that a lot of the things that you talk about in raising children in the family, those things where we can be on the same page in a situation in this time I'm mentioning Diddy, the only reason I mention Diddy is because you can mention them, yeah, the last two months, every day something new comes up about you, you can't mention it every day. listen, he's the topic of conversation, you can't unless you don't mention him, you won't let me do this, other questions, are you familiar with Jaguar Wright? um I'm not friendly with him, but I remember her when she did um, the unplugged, the MTV Unplugged, the heart of the city, I think she was doing, she was just singing in the background, but that's the only time I remember interacting a lot.

I always remember we were great, right? Now there are some rumors. circulating and you can close it the moment I say it, that there was a link with Jay-Z, it had some things to do with Diddy and they are both, you know, aligned and quiet about it, they are in a lot of things. of photos together, so yeah, what's up? Don't know. I haven't been around him in the last 10 or 15 years. Okay, like you know what's cool. I don't know certain things because I haven't been around. the reason why that's just the reason I pivoted because the gray area thing, yeah, I don't play those games at all, so whatever was going on, I never got involved or indulged or anything like that, He didn't even look away, he doesn't look. everything i just left you don't see me in any of those photos, has the fed contacted you for information or not?

I haven't been around him like that. I'm not around him that way just because we're black. I don't want to say no, that's not all, but you guys were partners, so that's part of Jay and I at one point. Oh, why would they approach me for what I don't know if they wanted to say? Hey, is there anything you can do? I want to talk to us about what happened, they never contacted you, not because they are reaching out to a lot of weird people right now. I'm not weird, it's okay, they're not going to talk to me.

I'm not weird so let me ask this other question, well maybe within this context they won't, they better not come knocking on my door because I have nothing to do with any of that so let me. I ask let me ask this other question you see I'm out of there for me uh uh class of 96 look I'm I'm the only one who can still talk I'm the one who can come out I'm not hiding because I have nothing to hide and that's what I mean. I can sleep well at night. That's what I'm saying. I think if you were the one who didn't want to talk, they would be worried about you. knowing things you have to remember, like people who commit crimes, yeah, they only tend to commit crimes with other criminals.

I'm not a criminal like that. IM not going to do it. They're not going to do things under my supervision. that I'm not going to be okay because they know I'm going to say something, so if I see something unpleasant or someone tests me, yeah, I won't keep it a secret because I'm not afraid of the resource that I have. I'm not afraid of any of those people, that's why I was able to say no, because there was no fear, you can't even look, you can't even ask me certain questions because you know you'll be embarrassed, that's what's going to happen, you know? what I mean and if I lose that fight, I will lose it, but I'm fighting and everyone will know why I'm fighting and I'm not going to be afraid of not being able to get a check from someone because I'm going to go earn my money or like you said or like I said because I don't care what people perceive as a victory.

I care about being creative and love is my currency. I care about being able to walk. be here with my family and be able to work with my family write books with my family go to schools help close prisons as you know I think there are much better things I'm doing and that's what I noticed what they don't Talk about what no one does big deal until it's too late is a curse. I go to the schools three or four times a week and talk to the kids and teach them to dream and I'm going to go to jail trying to get the retive rate. down, that's what matters, none of this matters, what's going on with the government, it doesn't matter who was president, those kids in Chicago are still sitting in a warehouse with no outdoor space and a fourth grade reading education grade and they are still foaming at the mouth because giving them drugs to get out of jail called the court program and they are breathing mold in the air and we forget about the kids, we have bigger problems.

I don't worry about other people's problems. I am concerned about my culture, the people. I love it and how they are being oppressed and the cycles that need to be stopped and the people that are enabling us and that's who I'm going to be successful for me and how much money I make is how I move the needle. my culture and I'm not talking about black whites, I'm talking about creative thinking. I think politics is foolish if we both fight for America. How are we going to fight among ourselves to fight for one thing? If I'm trying to save. a block and you try to save my block.

I'm not going to fight with you to save the block, we're going to fight together, so instead of worrying about it, we should worry about what's happening to these kids, why they can't read, why. Do they build a cell for every time a child can't read after fourth grade? That's the problem. Why is this whole independent sector the government with these big budgets that pays people to do things for people but they aren't watching? where they spend the money or how they spend the money How could a prison a prison for children be a million 1.2 a bed for a child and they won't even let him buy a real toothbrush? those are the issues I'm dealing with right now is education and teaching, you know my culture, if you could, half the people who care about Trump or Biden probably don't even know how to get a bill passed.

They don't know how to lobby, they don't even know how to change things. Do you understand what I'm saying. Making a law or making changes in the United States is a unilateral decision and many people have to agree, so it should be that way. What we should be doing is trying to work on how we stay together instead of what separates us as a social class. It's not about black or white, it's about 99% of the world being put to work for the 1% and how you make the 99 fight each other so we continue to separate ourselves and work for the 1%, whatever So all these people who care about the president are paying for a billionaire, but I'm not going to give them both any pause because I don't know what's going on in all the gray areas.

I can simply control what I see and know that I am not dependent on the government to pay my hospital bills. I am not dependent on the government to pay my hospital bills. Where I live I don't criticize anyone who does it, but I'm in the group unless there are capital gains in the 40-50% range and I always owe taxes, so when you owe $12 million in taxes, do you? How do you pay? that comes back without earning 24 million but they take your money every day only they with your working capital you know what they don't teach you in school how to have money how to keep money you know why my network is I don't know how to keep it I was never In school no one taught me how to keep money or when to pay taxes what capital gains are what a trust is no one taught me any of that so that's what we do we talk about people who don't matter that doesn't affect our personal life and We worry about what other people do and what they could do for us when we should be worrying about focusing on how to do it for ourselves and understanding that money is man-made.

Don't know. give me about the money there is no goal behind this everything is a Ponzi scheme I care about love as my currency how much time do I spend with my son what is my net worth I am a father, I pick my son up from school and take him to school and It could take you to work and it could take you to jail. I could take him to school and he would see his dad being a superhero, that's all I care about, so when you look at all these so-called Moguls you don't see their family life, you see contrived photos of something that doesn't even matter on a rug Roja and her children are not with them.

I'm at home with my kids and then I'm being creative and I'm creating my own, like I direct my own movies. I finance them or I finance them myself. I publish them, distribute them myself and then put them on my own streaming service. It's amazing to be able to write a book and sell 60,000 books by myself. and don't you know that's amazing that's amazing to have my own tennis shoes to have my own all of that is amazing to me I'm not worried about that gum that's why I left it you understand me but I'm not going to Never group up and the F's don't need to call me because if they are seeing a listen and they like it, you just live a nice, pleasant, boring life, the only demand you will get from me is that I yelled at you, that's all.

You're not going to have any of that fun because that's not what I do, there's no gray area with Dame Dash and the receipts are there period, I record everything so yeah that was cool by the way why do you think ? crime is so high in Chicago because it's such a big state you think because it's a big state yeah it's like 16 look there are a lot of big states but why is Chicago Googling? The reason they say thatI put it as the president or gon ella of France, but when he arrived in the United States he didn't know anything about the United States and he simply thought he couldn't fire. her because they can't fire anyone in France, when are you going to leave right now, right after this, yeah, okay, next time you go to town we'll have to have dinner at the house, next time you're in the city, well, do they actually have to?

Come on in now, you owe me an interview, no problem, so I'm in Winter Haven. I'm 2 hours away, you know, just come, take your helicopter, you have a jet, but Rob, this is going to continue like this. for a long time to come. I can't, I can't wait to break bread, let's actually talk a little about bread anyway, this was great. Give me, brother, I appreciate you coming. This was great, folks, just so you know. Give me too. man if you have any questions you can Manet with Dame that's the QR code right there where you started man that's your thing yeah man download the app to ask any questions you want any question you want you can ask him . man we talked about a lot of different things man one and only Dame Dash did you build that or like like you know the story?

No, no, eight years ago, I called a lawyer. 7 minute call, he builds me up. for 30 minutes I called him back and told him why am I billed for 30 minutes because the minutes add up, lawyers, right? I'm going to arbitration with a What does he do when he tells his lawyer how I tell him? to my lawyer to do something when I pay him, he doesn't do it and then he tried to convince me that I didn't ask him to do it and I think I'm not going to pay for that and now we're in court, I hate lawyers brother, I hate them, that's exactly why I created this hate law, so I went to the lawyer and I told him: I want to pay you by the minute.

He says: There are no attorney fees per minute. I told him: I'm going to create an app someday where I can pay people by the minute. So this is it: Do you have a minute? to connect yes, come on, it's like wine, it's like Cameo, the difference is the cameo, you ask people about their birthdays here, you have a conversation with them and every time you ask them a question, you pay 95% for it of the time people respond to you here. less than 5% of the time people respond to you on Twitter, Instagram and Linkedin. You will see here.

Anyway you are going to continue with this application. How much? How much am I charging? How much do you charge? Do you set your price? As? How much do you charge I'm uh uh my text because I respond 100 100% audio I make $100 then I think I'm $300 then my 50 minutes call us $9,000 wait a second second now what we have to talk about is a guy has a couple hundred million in the bank yeah and he's still texting he's a different kind of wild the only difference is you ready for this cause I don't answer anything else anywhere else but man I'm just saying you're still rushed oh there's no doubt about it bro honestly the way all that work I'll be like damn this could be ruined yeah you know what I mean that's what I'm saying oh you got your man, uhhuh, okay, yeah, you got it.

Some guys below can ask questions. I'm not going to be able to be up there. Okay, sounds good. Well, ma'am, thank you gang, everyone take care, bye, bye, they told the people.