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F.D.S #171 - FBI - DAN REILLY - TALKS WAYNE PERRY, R STREET, ALPO & RAYFUL EDMUND - FULL EPISODE

Mar 17, 2024
and the police. I always had a work group, you know. of some kind, going on a lot of different cases, a lot of different kinds of work, you know, that we were doing, but it was all, it always came down to, you know, Riley is there working with the police and the problem was that the cops were going to be being tasked with doing something about homicides, no one was worried about robberies anymore, no one was worried about armed robberies and those things that we would normally work on, but at the same time the FBI made a change in terms of support in terms of procedures and protocols that they wanted us to work on extortion cases against any type of drug gang or violent drug dealer and also, at the same time, a guy who was a close and confidential source of mine who I had locked up and you know, turn it around if you want to call it that, he was a really great guy but his best friend was killed and his best friend wasn't in the game and he was killed by the r

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crew art r street oh street crew but before that how do you turn people into someone you know?
f d s 171   fbi   dan reilly   talks wayne perry r street alpo rayful edmund   full episode
You convert them, they convert themselves when you make them. In that case, that means, oh, here we go, I shut that guy down with the robbery and I also found out that he was bringing kids to Virginia and Maryland. and he let them rob houses and he would take money and fence it for himself and then split the profits with him, so he drove around a little bit, you know, little ring, oh, so I hit him and you know how you got him, I followed him, did you? You know? Criminals for the most part aren't that hard to catch, I mean they can be, but anyway this guy and I got along well, although I laughed with him all the time and had fun, he liked me and I liked him . but I knew that if they prosecuted him he was going to go to jail maybe for one or two years, he wasn't going to be bad, at least not me, he would have been bad for me, I wouldn't do two. years old, but I knew he wasn't going to do it, so I thought, "you know what it was." I was constantly giving him the cold shoulder about stopping doing things with the kids, stopping involving them in this and he was okay with it, he was okay with it.
f d s 171   fbi   dan reilly   talks wayne perry r street alpo rayful edmund   full episode

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With me, I think it was the first time in his life that an adult had told him, don't be stupid. don't do stupid things because ultimately he was a good guy, a good guy who was scary, he was a big tall guy and everyone on the street was like, oh, I mean, really scared, he sounded like Deebo, but when he, uh, when his friend was murdered. It was against the boys that he knew that he would not be able to do anything to prevent his friend from being murdered by the Austrian crew. and they didn't kill the other guy, they shot him 11 times.
f d s 171   fbi   dan reilly   talks wayne perry r street alpo rayful edmund   full episode
It seemed like this other guy looked like bad guy Joe Green. He was huge. I tell you. Joe Green and I thought about how they shot him 11 times and he survived, but poor Frankie. They hit him twice and he had already done it and then your guy came to you and told you that he said this is not right, that he was angry that these guys got away with this. I mean, where would they get that call? on the phone like what kind of everything oh of course you can't get too many details, I got it, so he tells you, but did you hear about the Austrian crew or did he put you in it, put me in it?
f d s 171   fbi   dan reilly   talks wayne perry r street alpo rayful edmund   full episode
I didn't know who they were, no idea about Chanel, what is the Austrian cookie? Do you know any details about them as to who was who? How did he say? Yes, yes, I spent about two years working. I'm not better, although I'm just saying. like who's who, how did this start like they were mainly the Williams family and, uh, it was Kevin Fitzgerald, Williams Davis was one of the bosses, um, another guy named, uh, Anthony Nugent, thank God they're both still in prison because they would have a meet and decide who was murdered they sold drugs they sold heroin they sold coke they sold weed with PCP they sold everything you know that was available to sell they were vicious they had one one of the williams brothers was crazy daryl's man moving oh you know I started interesting to learn, yes the point is they knew serious bad guys and they control the neighborhood they killed.
They killed a guy in the neighborhood in 1985 in front of 30 witnesses and no one said wow, but why didn't they do it. say what you think if they were scared the whole neighborhood was scared and we're talking about a middle class neighborhood we're not talking about a tough ghetto you know a bad neighborhood we're talking about middle class people you know a guy lived next door across the street from the murder, he owned a shoe store, I mean, we're talking about people who were just completely scared of these, you know, animals, so it wasn't a situation because usually those situations, the bad guys take care of the neighborhood, no.
Not now, well, they did, they gave, they would give money to old ladies and things like that, but they demanded that tribute back, they demanded that you not say anything about our business to anyone. Did they have a warehouse? They had? a clubhouse they had something where they didn't perform anything nothing they had their house they had their mom's house on uh what's it called on uh Rock Creek Church Road and right across from the old soldiers house in northwest DC. then your informant comes, his man is killed, frankie by frankie, they kill him and he will tell you about the austrian crew.
Now, what makes you want to investigate Austria? Well, it was kind of a coalition of things that happened because at the same time, the cops that I'm working with say that we have to work, that we have to do something about homicides, that we can't work with stolen property anymore and I'm okay with that, well, you know? We'll try to find some way to deal with it and then at the same time the FBI came out with a new policy that said, "We're going to let everyone work on those types of cases, so I'm thinking at the time it's going to be mostly a wonder of one hit, maybe a couple of peace, you know, crimes of violence, we'll charge them with that and take it to district court because we know they're drug dealers and we.
We'll just tie it in with a drug case and I thought It was going to be a very quick turnaround but what we discovered when we got into this was that these guys were getting drugs from the Colombian Cali cartel and you know, we also discovered that they were getting heroin from some source in another source in New York and they were getting additional crack from the western boys, the 8 commercial gangster crips and they were getting PCP made by someone outside. in Los Angeles and so we thought we have to do more than just a quick hit, we have to make a real racketeering case on this In other words, at the same time, the rich statutes are being used in New York to go after mobsters.
I'm looking at this case like I don't know, you know, I don't know how to do this, but I'm going to do this and we have to do it. , they already know. the old fashioned way we're going to do everything we're going to have to, you know, go after the search warrants, we're going to have to, you know, hit their houses, we're going to have to do it and we're going to have to find a way to scare them because they are going to kill all the witnesses because we ended up needing privileged information to speak and tell the truth about what was happening and we found them because they were people who were scared.
They were, you know, they knew that if they told us anything they would kill them, how many people did they kill? My best count on our street team was probably 20, but we could only charge them with like three, so we could only get There's enough evidence on three of them, so can you walk us through the process of taking down the archery team? Well, we started with surveillance and covert bias and covert buyers were pretty easy. We had police officers or We have undercover sources, uh, you know, confidential sources that were actually going to buy drugs from the guys that we knew were being supplied by them.
Then we hit those guys' houses with search warrants if we had found a lot of drugs in their houses, which almost every time we turned them on, they would face 20 years in prison if they had, you know, several ounces of crack, so We said: what do you want to do? Do you want to do 20 years? and almost everyone I said no, I'll tell you everything, that part wasn't that difficult, I mean drug cases aren't that difficult to solve, what became difficult was the fear, that level of fear that we were constantly hit with and then they overpowered us. that right in the middle we found the mule from the cali cartel and he came to us because the crew had tried to kill him now while he is the guy who is responsible for the drugs that come from the cali cartel and they are going to kill him because they were angry because he didn't gave him a discount on his coke, which he had no control over.
You just know that he was acting as a go-between for people from Cali to DC and you know. r street crew said well you have to give it to us at a discount and he says man I can't discount anything. I do what they tell me to do, so how did they try to kill him? They shot him and then he came. us right after that happened and he said everyone has to help me and then we said okay but you have to do this and this and he got nervous and got angry and said I don't want to do it right so the agent the drug agent who had talked to him originally she was very, very deeply involved in understanding what he did because she had done all the interviews with him and she said, well, to hell with it, we'll just search his house and so we did. she got a search warrant on her house and it scared the hell out of him and from then on he was fine because we found evidence of exactly what he was telling us so she could verify and prove everything she had told us and that put.
In the middle of a conspiracy case, did the other guy ever try to threaten you or do you know you were among those guys? No, no, so they don't like me, right? But no, no, they were also killing witnesses. Oh my God, yes, but you. You have to understand something about killing witnesses and you know what if you want to know what worries me about what you guys have been going over, everyone's talking, you know, uh, the informants are like they're taking advantage of people. The truth is that when bad guys shoot and kill people, they don't know if they are informants, they assume they don't need probable cause to kill an informant and that's what I'll talk about.
You'll talk more about that later, but the bottom line is that these guys were killing people thinking they were snitching and they weren't, um, so they were just killing dumped bodies and because they thought they were, you know, handkerchief, I mean, you're talking. about a mentality at that level when they're making all kinds of money, I mean, you know, Kevin Davis wore six thousand dollar shoes, crocodile shoes and and, you know, fancy silk suits and things like, I mean things that Me and we all used the whole group drove, you know, like fancy BMWs and stuff like that.
I'm like, look, you're doing better than me money-wise, but this is crazy because you all are making money off of all these people that are just there. crushing, scary as hell and if you don't like them you shoot them, so did you have to kill someone in their group? Don't bring us. I want to know that he wanted us to be taken to the demolition before the shot. Well, there were several takedowns and the reason was that we got to a point where we carried out a covert operation where they were going to meet the so-called contact of the Cali cartel of New York.
It turns out that we converted. With it we turn that contact into a beautiful FBI agent. Wow, you know, we were supposed to bring Kevin and Anthony Nugent to that meeting, but it turns out Kevin got nervous because he was getting inside information from someone inside the law. The police are fine so Nugent shows up and we take him down then we lock up a bunch of guys and Kevin left town and you know, he snuck out so we had to find him trying to remember how this all worked yeah we had He had to find it and turned back.
In California we got a call from an informant who told us where he was and we went out and grabbed his ass and we had the two main crew chiefs in custody, but then we had to form our grand jury, so it took us, I don't know, several months to put everything in the grand jury because it was an extortion case, it was not your standard, you know, a small-time drug case, it was like that and then we had three or four types of violence. I had to find ways to talk to the victims. Crime victims who had been shot and left DC.
I had to find ways to convince them to come back to DC to testify for us. That wasn't easy. And I'll do it. Let's get into that, you know a little bit, let's get right to the bottom of it. 45 year old mother, registered nurse living in DC. Her eldest son was killed by them and her second eldest son was shot and seriously injured and she sent him south. carolina to hide and he had been hiding since 85, this was 1990. she was observing my case the whole time and she did it through one of my people who was cooperating with me at that time and finally when I am preparing to enter in this phase of the grand jury at the end of the arrest of the two main guys, he says, or the source comes to me and tells me that Bertha wants to talk, so I met her, it was like a secret squirrel and, I mean, she is giving up to his two children, you know that one, forthat they are there and that they are the best for them and, sometimes, they are going to have different memories than those that they even know themselves you don't know I don't know the reason for that what happens now if we can if we can if we can go back and learn something from the past remember that washington dc used to have the highest murder closure rate in the united states and probably the world because the people in this community would not stand for that nonsense and that is where we have to come back so that everyone who listens to your podcast and You know they're not going to be people with whom I have a lot of dealings with everyone who listens to your information and things like that if they realize or recognize that at some point we have to be better, that's what I want, you don't know, I can be lucky to have a couple more years in this brother, this is going away, this is going to extend, yeah, damn, for the president, man, dan, for the president, yeah, there you go, I'm voting for all those bad ones.
The things I made will never appear. I'm going to vote so you retired, yeah.and professor now and you know what's next for Dan, there's no next. I look at when I retired. I said he was going to write a book on crime scene examination. I did it when I started teaching. You know, someone asked me if he could. I wrote a book on criminal investigations. I did, so I put out two books. I learned to play the banjo. Well, I enjoy folk music and being crazy with my family and stuff like that, that's what you know.
It's about, you know, enjoying my life, enjoying my grandchildren, those two, their kids are like, yeah, my heart, you know, enjoy your life, that's what's going on, I gotta try hard, is there something we didn't do? uh, you know, arguing well, I think I was too So far, guys, I think I gave you too much. What I want to do is, because they know everything I'm asking in terms of that, all I'm asking is that they understand that we pay a price for dealing with them. yes, we paid a price um Martha Dixon, who was one of the people who was murdered in November 1994 at the DC police headquarters, she was a great lady, she was very kind, very solid, the good police worked hard and He presented cases to me. making cases is like part of it, billy christian exactly the same thing was that a good guy got shot in the back by a piece of land, you know, that he decided that he should kill the police officers, that's it, hey, hey , it's like you say people are going to do dirt, they're going to do things wrong, but the point is they were good people and we lost them all during this period of time and hank daley named the police headquarters after them, That's good, I don't think it's something that any of us would want to have, I don't want a police department named after me, but a good guy cared about the community, cared about the people he worked with and you know, and Mike Miller, another good guy, just a good, hard-working law. police officer who cared about this community even though he was like all of us, we were like, okay, we're FBI agents, we think we're attractive, you know, we need all that, but the point is it was about this community . and that's why not everyone looks at it and says wow oh and another thing: a friend of mine named mitch cradle has made a documentary about the families of murder victims in dc and i would like you to do it.
I know I don't know how you do it. Shout out to Mitch because I think it's an incredible program he's put together. I've never seen it, we've talked about it. over the years and things like that, but he's given it from the perspective of the families of the victims' families and if there's any way for any of this to make any sense, you know, keeping

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, even move the rifle away. The only thing that makes sense is that if all these people who were victimized by you knew if you were selling crack and making money off of it, people would have to say no, you can't do that, you're not going to do that in my neighborhood, I mean, You know, I don't know, it's that, I don't know if you can do it, you don't know, but at some point it has to be important enough for all of us to care about it and that's why that's why I said what I said.
I've said about what worries me you know this kind of discussion because I mean, yeah, I can tell you funny stories about

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and and it all comes down to whether I'm feeding that, whether I'm making them more important than which they really are because they're not, they're not important, what's important is that those eight nine year old kids that are sitting in neighborhoods where you know 20 30 people have been murdered within shouting distance of their home, that's what matters. Wow, like I said, I understand and I agree, I think, you know, I heard you when I heard the ladies podcast interview that I listened to. you got in you know what you were you got excited and this is what I was asking them I said did you hear Dan get emotional because I heard it I was falling asleep and I heard I said Dan is crying what's going on that was me crying Yeah I was crying and you were excited for the families and the people and also for the fellow officers and agents that were murdered and that you knew or know and feel that they are getting justice or that you know how to do what.
You get emotional about it, you're obviously a God fearing man and you just know I'm emotional about this because of my loss, I mean, God, God's mercy to them is that you know they have everything that they are. where they belong, you know they're up there with the golden palace or whatever, you know what they're getting, you know what they deserve because they gave every measure to their country, to their people, okay? That's what's true, the families that have lost uncles, aunts, boyfriends, girlfriends, brothers, sisters and husbands, those families are not going to have to sit here with holes in their hearts today, I mean Monty Glenn . the family has a hole in their heart and monty glenn, in my opinion, the person responsible has been talking to you, you know there are people, yolanda burley, your family has a hole in their heart and nothing can be done about it, except one thing we should be able to do what the hell am I doing here? the only thing we should be able to do is just tell them, say, say, tell them exactly what these guys are, you know, anything I say is irrelevant, I mean, me.
I had to operate in a system that required me to develop the evidence I needed to go after these guys and charge them with a crime, and I always liked to say that I did everything I could to put the truth on the table. My job was to tell the truth as much as possible and it had to be proven and it had to be proven not by me it had to be proven by a jury the jury had to hear what I had to say or what the witnesses said. I bring they have to go through that system and it has to be vetted someone has to turn it into oh yeah, you're right or you're wrong, I mean the only case I really lost was a guy named corey moore, okay? and a bad situation for me because I sat there in front of a jury watching while a young man stood in front of that jury and told the jury that that man over there shot me in the neck and almost killed me and I watched him kill my friend . and the jury said not guilty to this day, I don't know why, I mean only five or six of the jurors at one time or another said the rest agreed that he was guilty, but to the Today we went through four. trials on that case and I mean, when they finally put him in jail for a drug case, I was like eight nine years after I retired, I called reggie, it was the guy's name and I said, I said reggie, do you know if you're ever you were interested in going back to DC, you could if you wanted because he's in jail and will be for a long time, but all he did was go with his friend to have a cup of Cavasier with his friend and Corey and he was done. to where they shot him and almost killed him, so basically the last word is that we have to make it clear that these guys should not be glorified, please, but it's like that, you know, you know yourself, what's more, I know it's more than that, yeah, I mean, I mean, I.
I get it, you know you're in the music industry, you know, there's a lot of money to be made, a lot of people you know are doing well and all that kind of stuff and it's like you meet someone sitting there and they're struggling and they're like well. , maybe I'll get some crack and maybe that's how I'll be able to survive. I understand all that, but just when you get to the point where you're making tons of it, that's, in many cases, bad news. from different directions that have nothing to do with surviving, I mean, alpo wasn't just surviving, okay, wayne wasn't just surviving, they wore nice clothes and drove nice cars, they got what they wanted and they had girlfriends the way they wanted and like they wanted and all that and do all the things that you know people want in their lives and they were doing it because they were destroying their community, that's the key, but you know?
I don't believe in anything but that. They were destroying their community and I agree with you, but I have to ask different questions, but if I really believe personally, I understand and agree with everything you say in terms of destroying the community and selling crack to your people. people and you know people, kids losing their families and you know mothers are going crack and you know crack babies are being born and I agree, I just want to hear the story if you ask me personally, queens flip, how do you feel? I would say I agree that poisoning the community is not good, many of these things should not be put on a pedestal, but in today's society that is exactly what happened, we as who we are can simply express our beliefs personal and how we feel, hope and preach. to the young people that this is not good, they should not follow this and expect them to realize and that is the truth, this is what we live in, but if you really feel personally like the queen of football, I will tell you.
I agree with what you're saying well don't put anyone there I'm hitting you I'm hitting you too much yeah you hit me a lot I know I'm hitting you you did it and I kept repeating it then I was like you got distracted man that's the PTSD I was talking about mom love that's different I agree I kept saying dad I get what you're saying and I get it listening to these things and you know you're reading the comments on your clip because you got it believe it or no, that's why you didn't do it, would you?
This didn't blow up because my stupid podcast isn't about blowing up, but that was a big deal two years ago, yeah, you know what? You were talking and people and but no one saw your face, I mean you saw your picture and you're talking about it, we can feel the passion, our job is to let you talk and get it out there, and I don't love you because you didn't hit me, I said. Dad I agree I understand that you repeat it and I felt like you were just getting it from other things it wasn't me because I kept saying great day and I said I agree I see I'm just saying that I too can see that I'm not saying that I agree with that and I'm not saying it's correct.
I'm just saying that from where I grew up and seeing this kids are pushed to the extent that these guys are idols, I'm not saying this. true, I never said it's correct, why doesn't someone insist that this officer had run into a building and risked his life and saved the family from being burned or did something, risked his life to save the child from being killed? They're not being pushed to the masses so I agree with what you're saying, I get what you're saying, I don't want you one time to say queen community, come on man, you gotta drop it girl, yeah, well I don't .
I don't want to say that once I disagreed I understand you I feel you and that was something that Basket talked to me about and Dan doesn't want it to feel like the people who are doing wrong are being praised and viewed from that's not what we're doing, I'm just different perspectives and that's why I success

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y flipped the script because we got a lot of people watching and we said queen, shut up, understand, I get cussed at all the time. but I agree with you I can't understand why I heard your interview many people didn't listen because it was cut the one you cried has only four thousand five thousand views the one you talked about has eight hundred thousand views I just saw it yesterday so no one understands or heard the part now maybe if that part was left out and then maybe people like damn, we might feel, you know, the million or 800 thousand people that hurt him might feel like they left you out, that's what I understand that's why I entered first.
I said, did you hear Dan cry or am I tripping? Because I went to his page and listened to it and heard the passion and the emotion. I don't get it, I don't get it, it's just YouTube. society, this is what we live in today and it takes people like my son and other people who are cool who don't believe in glorifying criminals who don't believe in drugs and promote them in their neighborhood to spread them to the youth. Even I, you know, I say it because I don't believe it, I don't want my children to go through that and go through that, I don't, if you ask me personally, beyond the past is about moving forward, that's why I'm leaving.
It's, yeah, a scream, thank you and I accept your apology, yeah, you got the ass for hitting me, I said this scream to yell at big daddy in the back, yeah, um, if anyone wants to talk to you, is there one? way to get it because we go through loops, we go through my sister-in-law and let me tell you,Let me tell you what my problem has been. There were about three or four people who received my email from George Mason and emailed me. This guy and I didn't even identify each other and he was accusing me of all kinds of terrible lies and first of all they told me I don't know who the hell you are and to leave me alone because I have nothing for you and then this other guy says he's right on the DC story and he's going over and listening to what Wayne said online, what uh Alpo said online and he comes back and accuses me of telling him that I said, man, they can tell you all kinds of things. things they could be selfish, they could be telling you things they remember differently, you know it's been 30 years?
I said, give me a break bro, but you know, I mean, if this brings up a bunch of other stuff, you know, I'd rather not do it, I just want to say, if anyone wants to do the work of trying to figure out what my email is at work, You know, I'd be happy to try. to answer questions, but I'm not, you know you don't want to be contacted, someone wants, doesn't want anyone to reach out to me, and you know, unless someone wants to give me a million dollars for being a good guy, jay , hey. stop so you can hear it g-money said he was going to give me some change so leave him alone I don't want to be contacted he just wants to I'm fine you know I have to play the banjo yeah that's fine well thank you damn, thanks for coming on our show flip the script it means a lot of real talk we appreciate it man you know thanks dad for even taking down pops man I mean you know Baskey every time he says you know this.
The guy is a good guy, the man gave me the house number, like he told me, I said, how is he?, you know, he said no, yeah, he's a good guy and that's what he means to me, Like you're kind and you see the passion and I'm happy. you have the passion you hit me a lot g the money ran away for free it was he said I you you point you made that finger and I know that finger don't point at me like that so I saw you money, man uh great

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I love to say uh very comfortable episode you know what I'm saying shout out to dan the man dan the man then for president vote for my vote start the campaign but you know make sure to follow the pages man after the script pod on dj g money one five six at the launch of the queen with a z shot at michelle once she closes the basket you know what I'm saying I shot my cousin with a shotgun in the building you know what I'm saying we're in her neighborhood so we have to know we're going to go have some drinks and Get some good food after the show. uh picky eat this right now too and watch the third season youtube.com. slash dj g money picky, eat it, let's just uh. oh, hello, hello, we'll talk to you after we can, I'll make my exit as soon as I'm done, you see, what that means is this queen's flip man.
Shout out to the whole team. He shot the basket. Shout out to one of my. favorite people right now um dora the explorers in the building she wants to keep her identity in what she does a secret, i told dan anyway behind the scenes, but shout out to her for coming here and you know and being a wonderful listener, I guess she is. I'll talk to me about that later. I can hear him yelling at the family in the building. Surprise, shaka michelle. I appreciate you, it's a long trip, we came here and I definitely yelled at Dan, the man, I shot big Dan and yelled. for the whole family, once again because I love family, I love family people, but this freaky queen man listens, close the doors, close the windows, close the blinds, open the blinds and if you see a guy like Dan on your lawn, let him in.
It doesn't mean any harm because he will talk to you all night.

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