Is JJ McCarthy The Distraction Of The Draft Or A Real Top 3 QB? | Pat McAfee Show

yeah Lambo just curious uh everything about JJ McCarthy obviously we heard Jim Harbaugh say he's the best quarterback in this

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he's never seen a better pro day than that and I know mock

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s are like you take them with a grain of salt, but as we get closer to the draft, a lot of teams or a lot of people have teams that move to number four to get JJ McCarthy there, where for the entire season leading up to this, he almost was he supposed to be the fifth guy or you know, in that 10 to 15 range, do you think his kind of meteoric rise in the last few weeks is legit or do you think it's mostly media propaganda?

Remember this time last year Ty Will Levis was four years old. one to be the first overall pick in the entire draft, okay, this rhetoric that's circulating now is typical of the season we're in, especially once free agency ends, he's the one who can push things forward and part of she comes from the agents. Some of this could come from Arizona C because you know they want to sell their pick, they're not pulling any punches about it and if there's a sense of urgency that you have to move on to get JJ McCarthy, then you know they're going to be the beneficiaries of that. and I think Harbaugh is being completely honest about it, you know, I think he sincerely believes that I know in my conversations with him this summer he felt that way, but it's different to say he's the best quarterback in the draft than to rate the quarterbacks in the draft and I think the biggest mistake we make in grading these quarterbacks is that we don't look at other quarterbacks or players currently in the NFL and say how this works.

Players compare themselves to that player and what their rating is. We always talk about where they're going to go, but people in the league talk about how they're going to play and that's the different right, so if you pick the draft, for example. You drafted Kenny Picket in the first round, there was a good chance when you drafted Picket and Diggs knows he was never going to be a top 10 player at his position, maybe he was going to be good enough, but he never was. is going to be in that and the rating that says in the first round it should be there, so a lot of this conversation is just based on where they are going to go and creates a sense of urgency to encourage teams to try to do something and Above all, the teams are pretty smart and will stick with their board now.

I think there are teams that want to upgrade their quarterback, certainly Denver, and we know that Shawn Payton has a history of moving up in any draft. Look at his career in New Orleans and he could do that if he sees the right guy, he's good so you said a lot of good things there and Shawn Pton definitely needs something so maybe he makes a play for JJ McCarthy. Can you imagine Shawn Payton and JJ, by the way, only two winners? yeah, just two winners, that's what they do, um, you said about CU that we do during draft season, this guy is better than this, in this draft class, they could all be buses, they could all be members of the Hall of Fame, but we're comparing them there and the teams are like well, is he better than our backup right now?

If he was, if our backup came out right now, how would he compare to his class? We didn't even venture into that conversation, but JJ, it feels like you know and this. It happens every year Ty alluded to it he feels like he's the guy and yesterday we found out about lombo hockey player yeah yeah did you know I didn't know he was a hockey player? He had no idea, yeah, yeah, I mean, this kid is you. I know obviously he's been a winner at every level he's played and Jim told me a story, remember when they were there, there was a debate about whether K MC Mcnare and JJ McCarthy were going to be the starters and Jim was rotating him in the first. four games, well, Jim did that because he wanted to

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everyone what he thought was the right thing to do, which was to start McCarthy and, ultimately, during those four games, that's what happened because there were people within the Michigan program who thought that M mcir mcam was the better player and I think Jim

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ed that with the way he handled it so he has been okay with this because of the background.

Now I think you have to be very careful, we tend to fall in love with the player a lot. with the character believing that we can improve the player because of his character and sometimes that is true, but sometimes there are some innate flaws that cannot be overcorrected and I think you have to be very delicate and this quarterback look has been 60 69 quarterbacks that Pat drafted since 2000 in the first round 69 if you count if you take last year, 66 basically and 36 of the 66 have been cut, so if we're talking about six in the first round, we don't know the six.

They're going to be

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ly good players at the level that we need and you have to do a

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ly good job of understanding what you're looking for and what would work best for what you do within the framework of your offense and that's where guys like Shawn Payton get a big advantage. because he gets it, we never hear of a mock draft, well the guy is a progressive read quarterback, no he's actually just a mid read quarterback, right, there is a difference between the two, many teams do different things. in that sense and you know we all speak well, not all teams read progressions, they have high and low things on the sides, so I think you have to be very careful and the best way to evaluate quarterbacks is what they don't See, that's what I don't see, that's what tells you the bigger story that MC Shanahan's tree is.

I don't want to say it's easier for a quarterback, but it's about what we're looking for and how we're looking for it, as opposed to Shawn Payton. I'm going to make you right, I mean, you have to be, yeah, that's complete, which is potentially why Russ falls into that system, he has to learn it, he's trying to learn the system too, on top of everything else. Otherwise, he will go to Pittsburgh and dominate. That's what I heard from Mark already, kid, but the quarterback, college quarterback, I saw him on the show yesterday. I had a hard time getting that chair, watch your back, lombo lbo, those are the best chairs, those were the best chairs, kab if he had had his Achilles tendon.

WAP too, I heard everything. He impressed me. I hear it. It seems like he's plugged into the show, so that's good. You know what I think when you look at these quarterbacks. I think you really have to pay close attention to yourself. I know I can still remember this if yesterday and it's 1986 I'm walking carrying Bill Walsh's bags because in '86 there were no backpacks so he had to carry his books and I'm in the hoer dome walking behind him and he stops and He says who that quarterback is over there and sees Rich Ganon from Delare University moving and throwing the ball and says, "Make sure Homeg goes and works with that kid because Walsh fell in love with his foot speed if you look to Steve." The kids were playing for the LA Express or the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, of course, forget about the BYU experience, his footwork was excellent, it was one read and followed the way he played, which wasn't the way teams wanted it and Walsh saw his footwork and saw that he could. he did something with it, he saw something that others didn't see and then Young had this great career when he came to the 49ers, so I think that's really what you have to keep in perspective, everyone just wants to rate the on-field production.

Oh, he completed this pass. oh yeah, he did this, he did that oh, he missed this shot here, he missed that shot and I think that leads you to make a mistake. I know with Josh Allen I was overly critical of his accuracy issues. I didn't think they could surpass them. what deterred him from having this incredible size, yes he's not always the most accurate, but that size wins more B battles than he loses and then what we learned is a good work ethic, a humble guy, an energetic guy who He wanted to get better every offseason he put in the work, you know? and he was able to fix it, but those are some of the things you're trying to learn about a guy coming into the draft process: Is this G guy going to get better when he gets a job and gets money or is he just going to get better?

Be the same Josh Allen, as the guy who is almost the prototype every year, real, yes, real, get better, which is a big part of this whole draft process, trying to know who the hell you're drafting, what you're getting in this selection. Oh