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See Neil DeGrasse Tyson and Ari Melber debunk common science propaganda

Mar 17, 2024
These are the news that we deal with facts and what I am going to tell you is a fact. I'm joined by one of our favorite guests, acclaimed astrophysicist Neil deGrasse Tyson, who has spent decades exploring the mysteries of our universe and also explaining them in ways. which we can understand now that he has turned his attention to some of the problems on a universe planet within the universe Earth, the new book Starry Messenger urges us to really think critically and objectively about what we are doing and whether we can sustain this . Planet we have here, he writes, we sow hatred towards others fueled by what we believe to be true or what we want to be true without taking into account what is true.
see neil degrasse tyson and ari melber debunk common science propaganda
We have lost all vision of what distinguishes facts from opinions. We love each other, we throw grenades at each other. edit each other and we could share beers in pubs Neil is here, cheers to drinking together and finding cool facts to see you, thanks actually, I'm leaning towards wine, but beer, you wrote beer, I wrote beer, I wrote beer totally there eh, we. I know you about so many things, but you're clearly taking the scientific rigor that people love about you and I think sometimes I learn from you and applying it to some really important topics.
see neil degrasse tyson and ari melber debunk common science propaganda

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Why this now? What do you want us to think about? This book. has been brewing inside me for decades, in fact, I can remember my first thoughts when I was scientifically literate at the beginning of high school. I would look around and see adults saying things, making decisions, commenting, holding opinions, it was like, what are you waiting for, where did that happen? Where did you think of it this way? Do you understand the data and it's been brewing inside of me and then the whole book was born and I realized that all these parts of society could benefit from a dose of a cosmic perspective?
see neil degrasse tyson and ari melber debunk common science propaganda
What does that mean? it seems from above, but also an infusion of scientific knowledge and critical thinking in a way where your argument that you thought you held it firmly and you thought you were facing the person you were fighting, in fact, from another position, you could learn that both of you actually agree more than you disagree or you are both equally wrong and you will realize it together. Okay, any of those are our progress on any kind of warring factions in modern society. Yes, you mentioned factions. Some of this goes back a long time. people debate who God is, who has the right belief system, I mean we do, that's old school stuff, right, yeah, that's whatever, this country, the United States, um, it was an experiment.
see neil degrasse tyson and ari melber debunk common science propaganda
Quite fascinating in that sense, it's whatever your personal truth is, uh, it's welcome, uh, but you. You can't tell another person, you can't demand that another person have your personal truth and that gave religion freedom to express itself in all kinds and in all varieties in this country, that's notable, but that's a particular kind of Truth in the truth and Beauty chapter. I go into this in great detail, but I had to divide the word truth into three parts because there are a lot of people who, especially religions, really stick to the word truth and I don't want to take that away from them, so there is a personal truth is Jesus, your savior is Abraham, you know in your lineage it is Muhammad, your last savior is ancestor or your ancestors who watch you, these are cherished beliefs and they work as long as if you have that belief, you don't have it. then ascend to power over laws and legislation and have those laws and legislation force others to adopt the same belief system, so I think the pluralistic characteristic of this country is something that Canon should appreciate, so how distinguishes

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Expect a slip of a political truth, you know? what that is no it's not, it's what becomes true simply because it was repeated so many times that our brain has this failure mode, well we think it's a success mode where you hear something so many times that your brain says it must be true yeah repetition is a big part of it is the basis of everything um uh um what did Hitler do with the um what is the term where do they believe this and I'm going to print this and it's not

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thank you thank you thank you for helping them You ask, but you asked me the question: what did Hitler do?
I was good, a lot, what a lot, so, repetition is a basis of

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, but scientific truth is what is established as true through repeated, verified experimental observations and when that is done, it is true, you believe or not on it and if you are going to base the laws on something that has to apply to everyone, it seems to me that objective truth should be your main motive, which is why you say objective truth. At that point, let me read to you about the objective truth in the book. The objective truths of

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are not found in belief systems, established by the authority of leaders of persuasion, learned through repetition, or obtained through magical thinking.
To deny objective truths is to be scientifically illiterate, to have no ideological principles, explain that it is important, that is one of my best phrases in the book, yes, you are finding it, well, we found it, we found it, but explain that division because you do something that believe. It's very important that sometimes beliefs and ideologies, especially the way we are organized tribally, which you also write about, become their own test. If you don't agree with this goal, you have to agree with these other things and then before you know what that means. being depressed with things that at one point you maybe knew were questionable or not true and now you hold on to them is a portfolio a portfolio of beliefs that guide us through that well no, because science is one of the things it does best It's unpacking things that are otherwise glued together, you think they all have to roll up into a coherent shape, you unpack it and say no, this works, but no, no, I'm not going to travel with that because you've attached it. . to this, but I'm not going to continue with you on that because I'm thinking about this, what happens is that we like to follow the leaders and we let them think for us and I can't accept that, no, that would be I don't seem to care about them leaders, but that doesn't even have to agree with everything the leader says, okay, so what it means is that if you make an argument, there may be holes in that argument and you and you need to be a little open. to that and I don't mean holes where I'm right and you're wrong, it could be a hole where we're both wrong and there's a new place we can agree and that's when you go out and have a beer , there is an unwritten spirit, uh, between two scientists in an argument and that unwritten spirit is: either I'm right and you're wrong, well, you're right and I'm wrong, or we're both wrong, we know that. that beforehand so that we're not fighting to the death, you fight to the point where you say you know this additional piece of information will help you decide which of these worldviews is correct and I can join you on that.
I guess with scientists, if they recognize that error rates exist and vary, but virtually no human or system is 100 percent accurate, sooner or later they will be on the wrong side of an empirical debate, so I mean that You have to understand how science works and that is not taught. at school starts, you know school is starting, here's a book and the vocabulary words are on both sides in the chapter, memorize them and try it and then move on, where do you learn what science is and how and why? works and why you can trust it and what does it mean to trust it, what do you have to do to get to the point where you can believe what the scientist says and not the person who delusionally thinks something is different, so I have a great question for you because you address ethics and there are different systems of ethics that compete historically on Earth, many of them have involved some appeal to a higher power yes, this power or this God creates this ethics Is there ethics in the non-human rest of the Galaxy?
I don't know, you know the ethical ethics and also the type of morality. I can tell you this, whatever ethics or morality we agree to have as society progresses and by the way, the spirit of today was not the same as it was 50 years ago or 100 years ago, you know, there would have been another day when the one who would have been a slave, that's fine, and then ethics and morality evolve and evolve according to a kind of rational discourse about what is right and what is wrong. Is there a permanent ethic on Earth? Do you think you can point out any that are permanent?
I don't know what permanent is, but I do know that if you think something is permanent, it's usually not a good sign because you get attached to it and then as the world moves on, it might have. a different perspective on that, I'm old enough to remember that the Sunday newspaper had a section called the women's section, yes that was ethically the right thing to do because what do women do? They're at home and in that section there were recipes and coupons and all the things that women made at home and no one, no one criticized that for decades, right, and finally we get to the 1970s and the poignant Frontier of the second wave movement of live women and all that changed, but it took so long to do it, you needed a whole The Civil Rights Movement happened first and then everyone said well, what about women?
And so it is. I will not accept something as eternally true since we continue to mature in this world and this treatise is an attempt to show it to you. that your most precious feelings may have holes in them, but you have to be a little open to that and I try to be playful in ways that you know, so that you don't think this, I'm not this, I'm not I'm lecturing you here and the book is not even very good, it's 200 pages, it's not even very big, so it's there for you to try and you know before I lose you because I want to jump to the book, please, I'm doing it.
There's too much talking here, you're here to talk, so you turn to physiology, why is it important to you that we explore our understanding of that? Oh my God, because in the chapter on the body and mind, think about it, we judge what is normal and what is not and what does that mean is normal just the average is a normal person but we compare we know you have houses model Is there a model person who has all his faculties working and then you compare yourself to that? If it's not like that, you're not normal, you're disabled, if they can do something and you can't, this is how we're going to do it, this is how you want to do this, because if that's the case, I give examples, okay, um , New York Yankees, okay, Jim Abbott was a pitcher for the New York Yankees, he threw a no-hitter for the New York Yankees, by the way, he only has one hand, okay, he's had higher, how does it shoot?
How is this done right? That's great, and there's another person who is a champion archer. Well, a champion archer can shoot arrows better than almost everyone on Earth. He was born without arms. Am I going to say he is disabled because I have arms and he doesn't? I'm not going to do that, you can't make me do that because we're all who we are and you work with your hand, you're disabled because you can't do math, okay? That's how we are. you're going to think about it you know I was bad about it you just do it you look at it you look like I can't draw I'm disabled because I'm not an artist so there's a whole analysis of how we define what's normal and what's not and the reason why an astrophysicist tells you this is because we have the entire universe that we classify there is one star it is strange it is average it is like this how do we present them?
About them, that is the final question, yes, we are living in a time of unprecedented technological advances and yet we are overwhelmed by all this misinformation and stupidity. We're seeing more of the Galaxy I think, tell me if I'm wrong. What you have seen in previous generations you write Sort by distance the site is very important the farthest thing visible to the human eye is a twin of our own Milky Way Andromeda Andromeda Andromeda look I knew I would need help The Andromeda galaxy is named la la la woman saved by Perseus in Greek legend yes, Andromeda, well there's a song by J Cole who doesn't want to be saved, but that's enough.
She's about to be consumed by the Kraken, so yeah, she wanted to be saved and so did you. She writes that she is two million light years away, she is far beyond the stars of the night sky, what does she do for us? In English, in plain English, we have gone as a global community from seeing so far with the naked eye, as you say, to what we see. Now we're looking further into the past few years through the Galaxy and its own history. What can we as people do? What is someone who watches the show?
What do they take away from that daily life? Now we can see more galaxies. You can take one of the greatest cosmic perspectives that exists and it is the Revelation that emerged in the mid-20th century that the atoms in our body are traceable to the crucibles in the centers of stars that then exploded spreading that enrichment intopristine clouds of gas that then form star systems with planets, one of which was the sun with the Earth, so that we are not simply alive in this universe, yes the universe is alive within us, that is a gift of astrophysics modern civilization that borders on the spiritual, so when you stand out in the night sky and look up, you say well, I'm small and the universe is big?
You could say that and to be true, but a more important fact is that you are made of the same ingredients as those stars that we are. Not only poetically are we literally Stardust that we reach consciousness to contemplate the extension of the universe in which we live and that is why the greater that Horizon is in motion, the more of this we discover that we are participants in the great development of cosmic events. time with your mind is a joy, a joy uh, I think I understood part of what you said, the book Starry Messenger is in bookstores now abroad, hey, I'm Ari Melber, thanks for seeing the rhythm I wanted to leave.
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