Empirical Evidence for God | Sam (Theist) - MN | Atheist Experience 20.43

I also want to say that every time you've given us a definition, you've basically said that now you just accept the definition. and we'll just move on like no, I don't know, I want to show that I just want to talk about logic right now, that God's definitions are fine, but can I make it clear here? I reject your definition that God is ultimate reality okay, okay, why don't I think it makes any sense? I don't think it's coherent, yeah, I don't understand what an ultimate reality would be versus something normal, the highest form of reality, low-grade reality.

I don't know that there has to be an ultimate reality, although there has to be. Oh, what's the latest? Well, I would define ultimate reality as the set of all things that are true, I wouldn't define it, yeah, this guy, okay, I know actually that pitch, ultimately, it's like Ultimate Spider-Man was drawn on a different art style than a normal spider. Guys, let me explain myself or not, but you. You are welcome to try the middle, okay, the middle of the totality that contains the entire universe, the middle that would contain all the universes, that would be God.

I don't even know if you know what that would mean. I don't know you. you did the physics work because you see that you do it, I know that far back you can go back in the present the path if you remove the dark matter if you remove everything that is observable or immaterial how far you could go back is not the end what would end the regression is God, that's what ultimate reality means, there is no existence outside of it, wait, so you take reality and remove everything really basic, yes, you would return to God once you have removed everything.

It seems to me that God is nothing, that's exactly what you want. I just said it's no, I said that makes sense if the only thing there can be is God, even nothing like what there would be outside the universe, there would be nothing, it would be God instead of nothing. because you defined it that way, you said if you take away everything, yeah, you just say, okay, there will be there if you take away all the universes, what would be the argument: it would be God making you think you could take away everything. How do you think that is possible?

Well, there has to be a basis on that, like the most basic form of Wyles, there has to be that because there is a consistent medium that we can observe like in the night sky, the entire universe, there is a Radium-based I have a question, does Do you or Chris Laingen believe that God is sentient? I mean, does he have intelligence? Yes, okay, yes, I don't see why, yes, the idea is good. Here's why, because intelligence in order for intelligence to evolve into Human Beings, the medium that the universe through which humans evolved consists of has to contain intelligence, otherwise we couldn't evolve it, it can't just come from no Roman intelligence, you know, the patterns didn't matter, you take away matter and no.

I have something smarter. I have never seen anything that I would call intelligence that was not connected to material reality. You have never seen an example about reality being an immaterial material. What is space? What is gravity? What is dark matter? not in the material universe, it is an immaterial universe, what are quantum waves?, it is something immaterial, it is abstract, so now you are saying that the material does not exist, yes, but ultimately, there are also material aspects and the Intelligence is one of them. You're watching? I don't know enough about Saturn's past, it's not very little material or it fades away, we're talking about patterns in the material, that's fine, but if you're doing well, if you're just talking about intelligence so it can evolve. in creatures like us it already has to exist no, yes, why do you assume where it came from?

So how did it come about? We create intelligence, that is like saying that for food to exist, the food or in the material, the food must already exist. without material as if it means nothing not only would I say that the material already has to exist why are you separating intelligence from everything else reading the material you said that God the things we need remove all the material I am saying that it is intelligent universe is everything everything I like that you think rocks are intelligent I see and that is the lowest form those are objects that are unconscious but conscious they are not aware of what they are intelligent they come out of an intelligent universe but they are not intelligent so it is also a universe with a great well the great physicist general I don't care about the name Oh general tell me what you're saying we may have to find that out one day to redefine who he is there might be more awareness that we right now can't talk about what We don't know so we can well, that's me, you can't talk about what you don't know, I can, that's exactly what turns you on, explore what you don't know. explore the unknown and discover the right, make it known that I am sick but you can't speak well about what you don't know, but you can't make definitive statements about things you don't know, you can do it with logic, although you can, because logic is absolute , you can't know anything to conform to the rules of logic, that's how you can prove anything logical without observation, plus, yes, even if it's logic, it's supposed to be verified, right?

I mean, there is such a thing as pure mathematics. but the thing about pure mathematics is that it deals mainly with tautologies, like the reason you can prove things with pure logic is because you are proving things that are the same as themselves, they have no referent in the tangible world, but The thing is, the way you find out if there is an error in your reasoning is by testing what may be wrong. The only way to know that that was just that data, but is that you look to see if it constitutes and constitutes. a mistake will be mathematical, it will be no, it will also know reality, so you should be able to test it in reality, like I mean, if you live or if you live before airplanes, you can theorize about things like you know.

Bernoulli's principle and wind resistance and how to get something up in the air, but all that theorizing is worthless if you can't get something off the ground, like there has to be a proof of concept in some time, but the only way we could invent airplanes is with logic and testing yes but we were never going to be able to do it we were never going to be able to spend the much necessary dress excluding one or the other it sounds like you are saying logic all by itself okay, that's what Aristotle thought and he was wrong.

I'm saying that the entire universe is fine, in the theory of it, the entire universe arises from something called independent tellus, which is a realm that is basically any possible free potential, but anything. To get out of this you have to conform to logic. Is it possible that there is something there that is impossible? there is nothing right inaudible that there is something there that is impossible so we have just shown that if there is an impossibility there there is no unlimited intellicus it is a realm where everything is possible so you agree with K is it a realm where it is possible for something be it impossible no no then not everything is possible there is something that is not possible there in this kingdom there is something that is impossible is it possible?

In this area there is something that is impossible, no, that is impossible. I just named it, it is impossible, there is something that is impossible, not because it is free from any constraints, so whatever is conceivable, then something there could be impossible if it is really straight, then it must be It is possible for something to be impossible. or there is something that is impossible. Oh hell, okay, so we can consider that to be possible, but whatever comes out of it conforms to the rules of logic, its freedom is balanced by constraint, basically, how do you know this?

The kingdom exists basically without limits. Houseis is the stuff God is made of. How do you know it exists? I mean, okay, let's say I admit that that's the stuff God is made of. Is there anything like that in the universe? Yes, everything is made of Telesis. As? Do you know and how can you find out where Chris Laingen's exterior is? How are we waiting for Chris Laingen to post this? Why in a couple thousand years of discovery haven't people realized what this Telesis material is? everywhere well it seems to me that this will be resolved in two years I think back in two years and one more thing one more thing because you say how is it possible that no one has discovered he said he has seen almost everything a man can look Wow, that is what Cory, I'm just saying, say you look forward to that coming, maybe Chris Laingen is God, he must have it because I mean, apparently, very well, our minds definitely have power because we all have power in the individual aspects of God. our mind that's the claim okay I hope you call me when Chris Laingen speaks published I will do it I will do it well good luck