This BOOMER Can't Scrap The BLOWN UP 327! Can It Be Saved?

People who have been watching the channel for a while are going to recognize

this

engine, yes, but we tore it down in July of last year and it was a pretty sorry rebuild that the customer had put into

this

thing, I mean, every old engine and worn out. and it was all machined, it was machined wrong, that's all, yeah, so we ended up making a 383 for the customer for what he wanted. I don't think this engine ever did that and it was so far away that it just wasn't like that. It's worth the cost to fix it up for it, yeah I mean it's over 60 now and it's not a good 60, plus the crankshaft groove was worn out.

The sprocket was loose, the heads are rough as can be, uh, they've had valve guides put on them. They're worn out again, it's been here in our store, I mean, it just needed to go to the

scrap

heap, but I couldn't let it go. I'm really having a despite how bad this is. I'm really having a It was hard to throw away a 327 block and camel hump heads because when I was a kid, I mean I would have given anything to have a set of camel hump heads for my car, that was a cool thing back then, so we just finished that 235. and I think the nostalgia of that got us interested in getting this going again, so I think today what we have to do is go back down, I mean, we basically have the heads here and the bolt-on crank, only one. in bold on each side, so we just need to get this ready to put in the oven, but when we started talking about doing this I said, let's put some really nice parts on this and let's do it, you know, to have a little fun. but that's not the 327.

I remember this, what you see here, yes, but it's what I want to have for an engine when we're done. I want the original block and the original heads and for everything to look like we're supposed to. It looks like it's supposed to be, but I think we're going to have some fun. I think we're going to have some fun on the inside of this because we already have to get a new crank, we have to get rods. We ordered some new parts here, we got some Top Hat sleeves because this thing is going to have to have all eight cylinders sleeved, so that was kind of like, I mean, you were okay with this kind of experiment for us, I want to try these Top Hat sleeves.

Hat on a block like this, see how they work. I think it will work well. The crankshafts are going to be a little difficult to find. We probably have an original crank in the shed, but we looked deep enough, I thought. Let's get something aftermarket so we have this scary looking thing, super lightweight, and I actually think it's 100,000 longer stroke than this engine would have originally had. It uses a 6 inch crank that is actually a Honda Rod Journal, so it's a regular little black wrist pin from Chevy. on this end, but the size of this journal that you can see is even smaller than what I originally had and it's actually like a Honda, some kind of Honda connecting rod size, yeah, going a little bit smaller, that's how it should be how they get the extra hit on this. yeah, about what stock 327 would have been, no idea if it's going to work.

I think we'll make a roller camera. We will make the heads super pretty. We'll do the um, you know, we're not going to go crazy. cam, but we'll do a good roller setup, we can put uh 202 intake valves on this six exhaust, we'll put some screws on bolts and guide plates, we'll kind of do a combination of your old school performance and yeah, and when we're done Hopefully it looks a lot like an original 327 on the outside, of course we'll probably have an aluminum intake anyway or we're going to get fuel injected. We'll see when we get there.

We'll see when we get there. there, but maybe I mean this will probably end up selling when we're done with it, yeah, but I definitely definitely don't think we have anything of our own, we want to put it right there, right? no but we could maybe find something or we'll sell it but I think it'll be a fun building series to make the Boomer happy and maybe make zenial and me happy and anyway we're going to do it. It's going to be great, these are some nice pieces, yes, I got a text from your sister, our accountant, telling me about all the money you've been racking up on the company credit card buying pieces for this.

You know, I heard mom tell the story about when you two first got together and the huge chalkboard she had of every debt she had and who she had to pay and when she had to pay them and there was no money to pay them, yeah, there was no money. to pay, no I don't even want to think about it anymore, you obviously stressed out the cleaning guy by just mentioning the time in your life when you were trying to get out of debt after starting this business and we don't want you guys to have to leave. through the same level of stress and that's why this video is sponsored by PDS Debt PDS Debt provides options to consolidate your debts into one low monthly payment so you don't have to have a giant whiteboard in your house to keep track of a who owes him how much you owe them when those payments are due and how much interest you are accruing.

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Thanks to PDS Deuda for sponsoring this video. One Bolt there is one in bold over there I wish all the heads could come off that easy I have this locked no so it doesn't flip over there is one off there is the other one this is the one you can still see the boring bar marks on the bottom the crosshatching, yeah even look at the chamfer on the top here, what's that all about? I have no idea, but it will look nice when we're done, so on the back here's this plug that was all soldered together and I'll put up some pictures that I took a while ago when I was trying to investigate what was going on there.

They had two outlets there. I'm surprised the second plug wasn't blocking the feed from the rear cam bearing to the left oil galley, um, but it still leaked even though they had all kinds of silicone and everything in it, so that'll be something which we'll have to do some digging when we clean up this block, it's nice that we can Basically, we already have this separated, well, yeah, because we just put it back together with a couple of bolts. Did we do that? I don't know. There must be a pig mat there, right? It's not even completely oily and you put the oil pump back in. and everything looks like this.

I think I was mainly trying to get rid of the parts timing cover. Yes, here is the variable valve timing gear I had. He's still there. Yes, it still works. It still works. It's a good bold. Let's see. I wonder. where are the numbered caps on this, I hope they are, yeah, big numbers, one, two, 3, there's at least one, two, three, I don't think we want to go through them right now in case they get confused somewhere along the way , there are no bearings, uh, the front. one had clout, yeah, there we go, this crank is rubbish, right?

Well, the only way it would be any good would have to be soldered and built up, and I don't know if that's worth doing. I'm not going to use it, well, you can put it aside. This guy can't get rid of anything, just put it aside in case we end up needing it. I won't be using it on this, although the camera goes back in, okay, that's junk. Hit the camera. bearings yes, that plug comes out, it comes there, there is that jack of the walk quality surface finish on the cylinders of the last guy always the last guy it's always the last guy it's always his fault whoever is ready yes, the hitter is Coming Man, is it just getting started?

Should I continue? Take it off, just put some heat on it, oh, hot, hot, hot, hot, that. He twisted it good, so we'll end up having to drill it. What's with me always twisting them? No I don't know, okay, so while you're doing this, tell us what you're doing, why you're doing it well. Once upon a time there was a tool to do this and it worked a little faster, but we want to take out the pinch bolt and we're going to cut these towers and thread them to make guide plates and screw the bolts in because if we're going to put a bigger cam on this , they will be very unlikely to press in.

The bolts will stay in there on their own, so anyway I just stack some spacers on there and put a rod nut on. A lot of times you can find some used ones and they are good enough for this and if you run the impact right it should pull that bolt until you run out of threads anyway and then I'll have to put a little more spacer on Here, how many of these have you done over the years? Oh, I can't. I even count how many there might have been back in the day when we made these kinds of heads all the time and I remember when I started, you had to rip out all that stuff, we didn't have the impact at the time. you have new soil too, we had new soil back then, so it was a little easier, Smart Alec, but now they come out easier than if we wait until we've baked the heads because it seems like when you bake them, it seems to cook that stuff. and it's really difficult to get them out.

I guess we didn't look before. Do you think anyone had started pulling? I looked and I don't think they did it. I'm surprised that sometimes they've already started. by the time we see them sloppy, yeah, a little, what do you think, maybe we could cloud them, yeah, that's some old school stuff, let's not be okay, pretty loose, scary, loose, scary, loose. Chances are you'll need some. oversized guides, okay, I don't know what the deal was with the last person who made this engine and I usually don't try to trash the work of someone else's machine, but there is nothing right about this engine.

I haven't seen anything that is correct. so we'll repeat on the other head, take out all the bolts, take out all the guides and it'll go into the oven, so we'll put the block on the heads, where the heads are, we'll put the block in, take the other parts and bake them overnight, bake off all the oil and grease and then we can get them with glass beads or steel braid, depending on the head or block, and that way they come out nice and clean, we won't know. We can do a thorough inspection and make sure we don't miss anything, so the pieces are already baked.

Basically this oven just cooks it at 650°C for 4-6 hours usually and that bakes all the paint. The grease cooks all the oil out so it's nice and dry to do our abrasive cleaning and you can see it there. I mean, these pieces had a nice orange paint and now they have no paint. Now we really want to clean all this up. Well, so we can do a thorough inspection and check for cracks and make sure these parts are actually rebuildable, the heads are small enough to use in our Steel Shot Blaster, so the way this machine works it's ours.

We're going to hold the cylinder head here and this cage here is going to rotate and there's an impeller down at the bottom that's going to fire tiny shots of abrasive steel against the parts. I don't know if you can get a Take that and it's going to abrasively clean the cylinder head, so we try to put the head here so it doesn't move around much, so it stays in place basically and I'll turn on the dust collector so that Do not move. Let's make a cloud of dust in the shop and we'll only run those 10 minutes or so, so there are shops that have steel shot machines that are big enough to make an engine block, but we don't have one big enough for an engine . blocks, so our engine blocks we have to put them in the blast cabinet here and feed the glass and again, you can see yesterday, this was just a nice block painted orange, uh, it was all greasy and oily, today it's completely dry and ready to be destroyed, fortunately. 3 27 is a little small, thekid who helps us and is doing a lot of this cleaning stuff had to do that big block Mopar a while ago and I'm sure it wasn't fun, so let's move on. and the speed of the glass, this is not a very pleasant experience as far as cleaning in the water jackets here, the speed of the glass is really what works best.

There really isn't a good way to clean the back unless abrasive. Your hot tank will do for a bit, but. not so much as glass beads now we should have a nice clean head eh this one had somewhere along the way something go through this engine and probably dented the top of the piston and the piston pushed it into the chamber that's just cosmetic , won It doesn't matter, but there might have been a problem somewhere along the way. Put this head on, it looks like it'll stay on just fine. Back to Glass beating brightly, so now that the heads have been through the steel pounder they're nice and clean, I mean they look like new castings, essentially, except for the fact that they have 59 years old and have been sexually abused by who knows how many. previous people down the road doing valve work somewhere in a previous life something apparently fell apart in this cylinder uh it doesn't look like it did much damage up here but it just bounced off the cylinder there same thing here that's all inside where it's it seals the joint, so it's really just cosmetic damage.

All of these intake seats have been polished, who knows how many times they are definitely lower than they should be. Somewhere along the way, someone placed the escape seats. Tried to do a lot of Honestly, matching the angles and everything here looks pretty terrible, we'll end up going to a bigger escape seat, so we'll take them out and cut a Bo counter for a slightly bigger escape seat, hopefully going to a 202 intake. The valve that will be there by increasing the diameter a little will get us to where we don't have to put intake seats, but we'll evaluate it a little more as we get closer, that's going to be it . be in another video in this video I just wanted to inspect things and see if we have anything to work with something else I don't know if it will show up in the video or not but it looks like These were polished on a belt sander we can see the vertical lines that cross the surface.

It would be a polisher like we have over there in the corner, which in the past was kind of the accepted method of renewing cylinder heads. but at this point we only use it for exhaust manifolds, but let's go ahead and do a quick magnaflux. We don't expect to find any cracks here because the engine had been running before and the only damage was a broken piston skirt, but we want to check and see what we have to work with anyway, take the yolk here and some iron filings, just iron dust. magnaflux and I'm going to look very closely here and again.

I don't expect to find anything. I don't see any cracks here. Again, I didn't expect it, but it's always something we review at the top of heads here. One thing, thinking back to when we took that engine apart in July, I think there was some oil leaking out of this hole here where they had drilled into the top of the head here, uh, when apparently they had some kind of fitting that needed to be screwed in there, so we'll end up plugging it so there's no more leaks there, looking at the top of the bolt holes there. some that are a little chewed up almost like they collapsed a little uh this one in particular has one spot that's a little worn so we'll at least put hard washers on when we reinstall these heads, but we might even be able to go in and face them a little bit just to clean them up .

I mean, this one you can see collapsing quite a bit there, so it may be something we do. We'll cut to the rock stud boss here for our uh. Screw in the bolts uh we'll need to go in and drill the push rod hole and thread the threaded bolts. I'm not sure we need to look here, we talked, we may need to go to some oversized valve guides. Based on how those others came out, these heads also had some broken springs and there are a couple of these spring pads here that are a little bit eaten away, so overall I think we've got something here. that we can work with, we wish these things were in better condition when they arrived, but that's why they're here and it'll be fun to show you guys what it really takes to make a series of these nice ads because, uh, we really don't have any more. the opportunity to do it so often because it costs a lot of money and labor and when you can get some affordable aluminum cylinder heads on the aftermarket, that's the direction most customers go instead of paying the money what it costs in labor. and parts to make a couple of heads like this, so it'll be fun to show it off as the series progresses, so let's put these heads aside and take a look at the block a little more.

I'm going to move on. and start magnafluxing the block here, there's nothing I expect to crack here because it was supposedly running even after the piston skirt blew off, but you never know, the ones least likely to crack are the ones that surprise you. a crack, yeah, I don't think there is anything. I wondered about that one, whatever hole it broke a piston in, but it wasn't even a catastrophic failure. I don't know if it could really be classified. Like he drove the thing home, so it can't be that bad, okay, let me go over this real quick.

I removed the plug here in the water passage, so we're going to have to figure out how to remove it. I have a tendency to twist things lately. I'm going to put a big old area anyway, but I think it's really separate, it's not glued to the cast iron like it should be, it's also a tapered plug and they had two of them in there. remember that, yeah, yeah, when they put two plugs in there, they may have been pushing it out again anyway, they may have jammed them in in an effort to try to keep it from leaking, you always want to give it just a little bit. extra torque and it probably would have been better to have it too loose than too tight, not much to see there.

I think I pointed this out in the last video, but this block must have had some kind of factory defect and I welded it up at the factory there on the deck, it actually left a little bit of spatter there, so on the back of the engine, Here are the three plugs for the oil valves. The gallery will be nailed because it's supposed to be the gallery. I don't give a shit what it's supposed to be Me either, they know what I'm talking about, we know what we're talking about, but someone always mentions that when this originally appeared, they mentioned that they thought there was a back side. main seal leak yeah and we got into it and you could see it was oily on the back right when we first installed this engine and we got into it and we noticed that actually someone had been here putting some of what I'm going to do. call Booger Bra and they don't do a very good job, so it's assumed that either the last store really destroyed it when they removed the plug, yeah, or when they installed the plug, they tightened it too much and broke the side, they broke it.

It's one of the two things I had trouble getting it out and I smashed it, but I'm wondering if they didn't do that when they put it in if they didn't tighten it too much and split it and break that piece of plaster because you know. You also have this plug here that they put in that couldn't get you to twist it trying to get it out because it's so tight in there that maybe they liked putting their plugs in too tight regardless of whether they tried to do it. repair it actually had two outlets when I took it apart and we had to figure out how to fix it and that's part of the reason we originally told the customer we had to throw this block away because it's going to cost who knows how much money. fixing that on top of everything else that was wrong, it's right on top of the long list of things that are wrong with this block, okay, so the problem is when, I mean, we fix this or whatever it is we're on.

We're going to have to do to get to where there's good cast iron for a new plug to seal, it's going to end up blocking this oil passage that's coming from the rear cam bearing to that bank of lifters, um, how to guide us. the oil passage here the way the oil gets to where it gets from the pump well let's see the pump pumps the oil to the filter it goes through the filter back to the other side I think this passage here goes up to the top here um and then yeah, there's an angled passage here that goes in and opens up into this center gallery down through the block and that in turn feeds into the cam bearings and into the main crank bearings which then feed into the crank journals, but then this hole here on each side where this goes into the cam bearing here feeds the galleries that come down both sides for the lifters, okay, so if we block this out by putting a plug-in in front or behind that, essentially we're going to block all the lifters on the driver's side of this block, that doesn't sound right, no we can't do that so we have to find some way to block this where the damage is so no oil gets to even that area, so there won't be a leak there, but now we have to find a place for a new passage to feed that left bank and elevators.

One idea we had was essentially tap for a fit here and then it's this side, yeah, tap for a fit. you know, and just put a little bit, a little cross tube, yeah, between the two and that seems pretty easy, but yeah, pretty easy, but everyone will know it's there, yeah, which we don't care if they know it's there for a long time. as a job is done, but it's just one more thing to have to come up with props and make everything fit well and come together and a bit of a strange way of doing it, yeah, something that would definitely make the next guy do what he's doing. well, the second plan would work on all engines, but I think it will work pretty well on this one.

Your small box Chevrolets are grooved behind each cam bearing, so the oil comes from that center gallery and surrounds the outside of the cam. The bearing will come down to maintenance so that each of the cam bearings look the same as this one, so what we decided is that instead of having the oil feed here, we will drill a hole in the next cam bearing behind and will feed that one. elevator gallery that way, well, being as smart as I am, I noticed one more thing, you less machinists, especially the ones with engineering degrees, think we're pretty good here, I think you think too much is very likely, but I'm standing here looking at this and I'm like, hey, you know the back man, all the other main channels feed from that cam bearing hole, but the back man feeds directly from I guess it's the same passage that goes up to the top, yes.

Right next to this passage here it's drilled again and I guess that's because they wanted that main passage to be fed so that down here it only feeds the galleries in the other main so it only has to feed the elevators. This main, if we do what we want to do, will have to feed the risers and the main bearing because this has a separate passage directly from the main feed for that bearing, so we are going to have a problem. There won't be enough oil flowing through those holes to feed the lifters and main, I honestly doubt it.

I do not know what you think. I doubt it. I think enough oil will flow no matter what we do, but it's like. It makes me wonder, yeah, so should we go ahead and drill every single well? I think that's going to be our answer to that, because we can drill that same passage on Main two, three and four at this same angle from the back and then we can go around the front side here and we can go in and drill from right here to that passage and now we can Feed those elevators with four main ones instead of just one, spread out the flow and not starve any of them. oil and there will be a real engineer who will explain to us why everything we are doing is wrong, but let's see if it works.

Yes, that's what this engine is all about. This is an engine we would normally have thrown away. because it's not like that, it's just cost prohibitive to fix this, but we want to play with it, experiment a little, that's how we learn new things, doing things a little out of the ordinary and seeing what works and what doesn't. I think we are actually waiting for all the comments, and sometimes there are a good handful of comments that we have to take with a grain of salt and we know that, but there are also a good handful of comments that we receive that really make us think. you know, oh, maybe we need a little Clos, maybe we need to look a little closer at what input we get through the comments, okay,go?

It looks like we're right at the bottom of our pipe plug with uh, like at the bottom because they're like at an angle, yeah, and I'm impressed with where the pipe is. the pipe plug is visible because it almost looks seamless, which is how they should look when they are, yeah, look at that, yeah, so do you want to go a little further? Yeah, I'd go, so you're over, okay, that's over. Okay, let's go a little further. You'll have to take your Sonic test on this before we bore him. He just looks at what we have to work with.

Yeah, so what other H? or 50, look what you've got, so go like 310. yeah, I would go a little further, okay, now our chamfer starts just south of the deal, that chamfer, the way that bit is sharpened should do let the tap start easily too, okay, that little Mark, if I can focus on it, that's where our plug is. so remember that probably if we had gone a little further, we would have left it not exactly like this area here, yes, if we had left the plug in longer, we would have had a nice seamless cut, but it doesn't matter because it's going to seal , yes, it's going to seal regardless and with that Loctite that we put in it, even if there was a gap somewhere that the Loctite will fill it because we used the bearing and the sleeve retainer, so this is where I guess Everything seals was leaking before the kind of scene between your solder and your C iron, yes there is a big line, yes we have to order a new pipe plug tap because we have a bad one, but we want to do it.

We need a new one every time we do a repair like this. You want everything to be as good as possible so you know that a new faucet doesn't cost a lot of money. Let's get a new, nice, sharp one that cuts. Perfect topics, how do you feel about all the work we did on this

scrap

book? I still think it's a crazy idea what we're doing, but I'm really happy with the way it turned out. very good with that little less scrap at this point, yes, maybe yes, less likely to become scrap, less likely to become scrap, um, I don't see any reason at all, what we've done here isn't will work, um, yeah, so we'll continue to tap that to thread the pipe, we'll put another plug in there and we'll probably stack some freeze plugs behind it, yeah, we're going to put it on the bottom, there, tap it, put a plug in like these other ones. two.

It was originally another one and it's going to be in deep and then uh that's the right size board so we can put some cup type freeze plugs in there uh just as a safety measure in case something leaks it's going to be one more , uh, one more. means to keep the oil in, so yeah, that repair they did there. I'm pretty impressed that they managed to pack so much mass in there, but you can see that they almost did it in layers and there are all kinds of spaces. there right and I think it just didn't work it just didn't work right and you see it didn't make the link that looks like a crack right on the other side yeah where they joined because it's not joined or it cracked.

Yes, this will be a kind of experiment, but maybe a kind of old school fun SL, a mix of old school construction, new school, yes, because it will have new school stuff inside and a look of the old school on the outside and our spectators. So we're really upset that we threw away a 327 block, hopefully it makes you happy that we've resurrected the thing once again and a lot of work to do on this, although yeah, we'll bore you. We'll do it, I mean, we have to put in all eight sleeves. Outsource the line refinement, I'm probably not sure with that crank as it has a 100k longer stroke, but using the Honda Rod trunnions, I don't know if it's necessary. do some cleaning or not, but we will have to check all that, we will find out when we start testing the assembly, so the heads that will be there will be a lot of work on those heads to make them pretty and They may never be pretty, but they will be functional.

I think we can make them look good. When you're done, you put in all the new seats and valves and some good springs. They will be pretty heads, it just hurts your soul to work with things from 60 years ago that have been with many other machinists on the road, it is always good to be the first to work on something like that, it makes it so much better. easier, uh, because at this point we not only have to deal with wear and tear on them, but we're also dealing with everyone else's previous machine work and this block was not a good example of machine work, all this engine, yeah, the whole engine, so let's try to fix that, give it at least one more life, yeah, from there, yeah, see how it goes, stay tuned, this series will probably drag on a little bit, but we'll try to keep going .

On that when we have time because we have you still have to finish that Chrysler engine, yeah we have a hot Jeep engine on the way and a baby and your baby, yeah we're screwed we're in big trouble now. Okay, stay tuned, see you later, it's to choose it, feel new, love, you're helping me get through it, I swear it's true, my focus is you.