Dr. Phil S17E44 ~ My Sister Is Grooming Her 6-Year-Old Son to Become Transgender

that you think Carly is doing this to this kid out of some kind of revenge, why are you saying that anyway? I texted you on September 20th, no you weren't invited to be a part of Dallas, could they let Rosie have that? So do you think she is pressuring him to transition from boy to girl? Yeah, she never asked him to be a girl, what she does or what she did, right? Does she like to play dress up? oops he didn't dress up it's not an indicator of anything, all the kids play dressed up, they're living that Fascination World there was a text from Carly to Rose and Daniel on 9/20/18 that said that in February James socially transitioned male to female her name is Isabella Iris she goes for Bella we use she her pronouns for Bella this is who she is and who she should be and I am doing what any parent should do by supporting her.

My hope is that one day you'll want her in your life, so you sent a Text, okay, to three of you, she sent it to you and Daniel, sure I don't have Carly and the phone is locked. when the court case occurred. There was actually a no contact order that happened on Carly says 10 months ago. Disapproval of Bella's transition came to a head. Check out. Bella's father and I separated in 2015 and then I remarried Bradley in 2017. At the end of 2017, Bella's father passed away. James stayed with us all week so my

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could see you. I know he got ready for the funeral at that time she had bought him pink shoes, pink coat and girl's underwear, my

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noticed when he showed up at the funeral that he was wearing it, it was considered a boy's coat, boy's shoes, so my brother started yelling at us calling us. names that prompted my sister to start punching me in the face and then Bradley punched me in the face my sister her husband started trying to run out of the house with the kids and said James, you're never going to see your grandparents again." We will never see your uncle again come on and he was kicking and screaming because the kids were present during the fight CPS is coming to my house twice my parents and my brother are trying to destroy my family and make Bella the kind of person they want her to be, what do you think of that last part that guy?

Oh my god, you didn't hear it, no I didn't hear it, let's take a break and then I'm going to add an ex guest who can relate to Carly, her son also transitioned into a woman, it's been almost 10

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s, we'll catch up with her and her daughter next, the one dressed in princess outfits, how did you make the decision to support him in the transition? From man to woman, he gave me no choice. I have gone through so many palettes when it comes to my body, now I am happy. Well, Tony appeared on the show almost 10

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s ago when his then 13-year-old son began transitioning.

For one girl, her story became the subject of a controversial debate about whether parents should prevent her child from transitioning or receive support. This is what happened when she was two years old. My son wanted to dress up in princess outfits. When he was four years old, he asked me when his penis was going to grow. he fell and that he wasn't the big girl. I went to the pediatrician. I told him why he still thinks he's going to be a girl and that's when he handed me the paperwork about gender identity disorder. How did you make the decision to support him in the transition? man to woman versus saying No, this is wrong and needs therapy.

He didn't give me a choice. He didn't really say: Can I do this? He simply said: This is what I have to do to live. My mom thinks I am. a princess because I have everything the way I want everything this is one of my favorite skirts How did dad deal with the fact that boys wanted to be women? He handled it like I did since what we could do in our Clinic would involve the father more. it would discourage feminine interests it would actually strengthen his boy identity it would make him feel good as a boy and it would get his mother out of her entanglement with the boy.

I wasn't involved with him, so I really think your theory sucks. Ash is now 23 and she says she's happier than ever, but it's been a long road, take a look, the other guest on the last show tried to imply that my over-involvement with Ash was the problem. We see that this involves excessive relationships with the mother. Those men were absolutely out. from the line until I was 11 years old this kid left my house wearing boy's clothes I tried baseball I tried t-ball I tried soccer she was picking daisies Parts of it there's this feeling I get when my hair is all done and my makeup Everything done is done It feels like Bliss and if I don't understand it, I know I'm doing something wrong.

I started hormone blockers at the age of 14. When Ash was 16 we learned she had an autoimmune disease. Ash lost her fine motor skills. skills I couldn't write I couldn't walk in a straight line because of the autoimmune diseases they had they had to stop hormone therapy I had to live like a man after I stopped taking the hormones that was a year and a half of my life personal hell she started cutting it was devastating I have been through so many battles when it comes to my body my gender I decided that I will make it happen on my own with or without the hormones since I started using corset trainers that I started playing with my weight, the my hair makeup found my certain niche and I just stuck with it.

I'm happy, I'm living my best life and now I look at myself and I'm very proud of that, so how are you okay? Now you are 23 and you are no longer 14. No, that's right, tell me how things have been, I know you have had the autoimmune problem. I feel happy and beautiful and couldn't be more proud of who I am today. I think I have as much right as anyone else in this. space to do, say and act as I want and be who I am today and thank you Tony, you have, you have two other children, you have two other children, there was no doubt in terms of gender identity with them, no, no, and there was Never there was no question with Ash, it was very evident your stories, oh yeah, there was never the kind of animosity or anger that I see here, it's really worrying.

I was being respectful. I was Leonard senior and I'm going to tell you the way you. present your eyes say it all the anger you have is way out of here it's very toxic no, but it's just animosity so how is this show right now about the boy and not fixing your family? Dynamic, I'm actually going to defend you. here in just a minute and God knows you need it and I'm going to defend you in a minute because I think you have a point of view that you're just not articulating, it's been mostly about his point of view this whole time and like I like it I like it Just I say I'd like to.

I thought I'd bring you a victim's hat. Alright. Daniel says that if his nephew were older, things would be different. He will tell us how we will grow again. Brother Daniel says his six-year-old nephew's desire to be a girl is due to his mother's misguided parenting, but Carly and Bradley say they will do whatever it takes to support his son's transition. he. We are now joined by Dr. Charles Sophie, who is on Dr. Phil's Advisory Board and is board certified in three clinical specialties, adult psychiatry and child and adolescent psychiatry and family practice, in addition to being the medical director of the Department of Children and Family Services here in Los Angeles, which is the largest agency in the entire world. country Dr.

Sophie, thanks for being here, do you want to say anything in general based on what he's seen so far? Yeah, I just think it's important that you make sure that none of this Camp residual conversion treatment that you have is doing any harm. of that because I think that's probably what he's trying to say and to be clear, believe me, it will come out if you force it, okay, I just want to make a statement: that was not the initial statement of how you started having conversations . of

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ism which was a video postcard conversation I'm just saying I said I wanted to say some things in defense of Daniel um and very seriously what I mean by that is yes and again I'm saying this hypothetically if someone was taking a child and trying to brainwash them, program them, really confuse them into being someone they're not, you would have real cause for concern and I would really expect you to raise the alarm and really wave the flags.

I mean, that would be a very valid thing. I mean anyone would do that? And I think you are very sincere in your concern. So I don't think you're just trying to object here. I don't think you're intolerant. this or whatever I think you are uninformed about a lot of things but I don't think you are just trying to be a problem here I think your concern is sincere the question really is can Daniel and Rose accept Bella if in fact that is the reason this child wants to have and Carly will allow them in Bella's life and under what circumstances we are going to talk about that next, the good news for you is if you think she is trying to convince this child. that she is wasting her time because that will never happen that will never happen and it will come out do you think there is a certain time when that will happen?

It starts around three when a child knows they have a deep sense of gender identity around three years of age and as long as you keep options available and they are always available, the main thing is that this child grows up surrounded by love, whoever be and whatever you choose to be, however you choose to live. Not growing up with the anger of anyone in the family, it's hard enough to grow up without half the family getting angry and rejecting all these things that a child needs to grow up being loved 360 degrees, no matter what they are and what they say .

I want to be um and and shame on anyone who doesn't provide that 24 7. that child needs to grow up with love and acceptance. I mean, if they come with a pirate hat, then love them with a pirate hat if they come. walk in with a dress, love them with a dress and they will figure it out, just make sure they have lots of options and understand that they are free to choose, re-choose and change their choice, and as long as you do, then just support the decisions of the child and stop turning them into a battlefield, that's all I am.

I'm saying that this child will find where he needs to be and if right now the meaning of her is Bella, then I will love her being Bella and yes in two years. From now on she says that's where she wanted to be, but now I want to be. James didn't love James, I just love the kid for being whoever he is and stopping all this other, um, that you know, having all those full options is It's not something that's like childhood when it comes to your affiliation, well , it's already been said and that's all I can do is say it now so I want to thank my guest today for sharing his story and I really hope you hear this and I know that. agree with me Dr.

Sophie Wright 100 I really hope that everyone puts the interest of the child above their own and just decides that we are going to do what is best for the child and that everyone can modify their position a little and the child will be the beneficiary of that and there's a great testament to that right here, superstar Tony Braxton joins me to talk about the struggles she faces every day of her life, but she refuses to let it stop her next. I remember being shamed for having it once I was diagnosed. because someone in the business told me you could never work again.

My next guest is a true superstar and one of my favorites. She has seven Grammy Awards, nine Billboard Music Awards, and seven American Music Awards, just to name a few. She is also a television presenter. executive producer, film and theater actor and successful author. I'm talking about the incomparable and incredibly talented Toni Braxton, how are you? I'm great now looking at Tony, no one would guess that she suffers from a disease that also affects over a million people in the United States Toni Braxton has lupus, an autoimmune disease that she says affects her every day, but she does everything possible so that it doesn't interrupt his very busy life and that includes his latest project starring in a Christmas movie called Every Day is Christmas premieres on Life Channel on November 24th now we meet Tony at a photo shoot for his movie look people don't understand lupus and it's because we hide it I was diagnosed with Lucas in 2008. some days it's hard to balance everything or even a day like today where it was a photo shoot in a couple of interviews with constant lupus on the rollercoaster is very difficult to identify.

I was on Broadway in 2003 doing Aida and one day backstage I fainted and they told me. I had something that attacks the heart. I'm doing the program. I have Tony Braxton. I don't get sick. I remember being shamed for having it once I was diagnosed because someone in the business told me you can't tell anyone you have lupus. You will never be able to work again. The only thing about having lupus is having to pretend I feel great when I feel horrible and I don't feel good. It's hard to beat the program. You sing a lot and that's something like that. a little gift that I'm not having my best night.

What I like most in the world is singing and acting. I love doing it all day. Stupid Lucas might mess with me, but he neverwill falter and I will never stop. Joining Tony and Meat is Pfizer's chief medical officer, Dr. Freda Lewis Hall, so welcome, thank you, thank you Tony. Thank you so much for being here once you were diagnosed, how did you handle it? At first I was depressed. I was in the process of getting my registration. treatment and that simply made me more depressed by having to suppress it, how did it affect you? People often ask me what it feels like to have lupus.

To me, it feels like I have the flu every day. Dr. Freda. I know lupus is an autoimmune disease, but what does it really do? If you think about a healthy immune system, what it does is attack invaders, like bacteria and viruses, to enter your body and make you sick, but if you have lupus, your immune system is attacking your healthy cells and tissues. and this can cause damage to many parts of the body, including the lungs, kidneys, skin, joints, blood vessels, brain and, as in Tony's case, the heart is anything at any time. I don't know what causes lupus but what we do know is that it mainly affects women of childbearing age now it can affect men and adolescent boys now the people who develop it generally develop it between the ages of 15 and 44. women of color two to three times more likely to develop it and African American women are more likely to develop it earlier in their lives and to have more symptoms now, Tony, you mentioned that sometimes you have bad days, on a bad day, sometimes it's very difficult to get out of bed.

I go to the hospital and no one knows. I'm there for a day or two. Dr. Freda. What are the symptoms that people have today? There are so many different symptoms that sometimes people go to the doctor for years before getting a definitive diagnosis. but some of the common symptoms include extreme fatigue headaches pain and swelling in the joints chest pain when breathing deeply and sometimes people get foam or blood in the urine different types of rashes that get worse with sun exposure now we put a More extensive list of lupus symptoms at get healthystayhealthy.com Cases of lupus can be mild or life-threatening, so it can be a serious illness and it is important to talk to your doctor if you notice that you have any of these symptoms and if anyone believes who has lupus or has already been diagnosed with lupus.

Are there ways to control it? Really get to know your body and track new flare-up symptoms. Learn everything you can about treatment options. Understand what the possible side effects are, for example, so you and your doctor can work together. together to manage your treatment plan develop a support network Family Friends Community groups let me just say thank you for being here to tell your story because I'm sure many people will feel helped by the message you have provided today if Talk to your doctor about participating in a clinical trial so we can help researchers find new and better treatments.

I mean, I can't believe the courage he's shown in doing this, so God bless him. If you or someone you know has lupus you can be part of the research being done at gethealthystayhealthy.com you can find information about clinical trials as well as more information about this disease thank you for being here and doing it I want to thank All my guests today, especially Tony Braxton, amazing to Dr. Freda, as always if you have a story of a life situation where you need my help I would love to hear from you, email me at dr

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Those eyes, you look at people and pierce their souls with those eyes, those eyes are beautiful, you are adorable.