WELCOME TO THE AA EPISODE #244 WIM WILLAERT

the first step on the road to recovery is a little new You have a problem Welcome to a trained bathroom every agreement with a particular organization is based on pure coincidence Welcome to AA for a well-deserved vacation we are back for the first time happy and Prosperous year new, especially for our viewers and listeners and of course, most importantly, good health and listening to this podcast a lot. I don't know what order they choose, but our guest today is an actor, director, author and musician. He can be seen in films: as a former Marina drummer and Prime Minister of France, he became known for his role opposite Jollade Moreau in Con La Mer Maud, a film that won two Césars at the Amy International Film Festival in 2012. the best actor category for his performance in Peter Monsaar's Offline on television.

He appeared in the best series as the uncle beaver who actually raises the undercover police officer Aspe Witte and so on as an accordionist who played in the Flat Earth Society with which the band is not organized. Wim opbrouck, co-founder of Dolphijntjes, also recently published his first book on clouds for dreamers on the ground floor, about water in an elusive form. A scientific and philosophical book, but also a novel, like the man himself, the book cannot simply be pigeonholed. , in any case, we are very happy that you are our guest in this new season and the first year, the following year, the first of 2023, very

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Wim Willaert Hello, yes, and when it is an honor to be able to put it here with you.

I've never seen anyone so happy to intervene here to get a divorce. He says it was actually almost touching. Yes, it was nice to see. Yes, but I've seen a lot of things happening and I've never come across it yet. That's it. It's strange, you become known. BV And suddenly it's like everyone is on each other's side when we meet. And that's funny because there are only a few people who are interested in having friends. Perk waited a bit until I met Alex Agnew. and finally the bottle of Thing arrived. That's why he was so happy, great.

Wow, that's uh, that's a compliment because I remember I actually told you before we started recording, but we're good at reproducing things, so we can do that. for a while, but then the first time I really consciously experienced you was that you were worth a curator of the Ostend Film Festival and I remember seeing it in a movie now and with one with a big beard and especially that voice you announced that and I really thought in the voice of Wadden Wadden What Bassie below and also what is the figure Yes, maybe I still need a singer and then in a moment the Manon plush would buy it immediately, there is certainly some kind of nylon Cohen, you stay away from the man, I immediately think that with that voice, something like that French song gasboer så Bare sexy talk while there is a saxophone like that, the saxophone takes the race again man, isn't he going to have an instrument and not? in the fanfare but I'm not in it, it doesn't stop so that way was really too ridiculous eh that was the reason I stopped was that really was that eh Was that the clincher Girl number 14 I was a little older, fun matures and then has to go there with travel expenses but no decorations, but that was nothing and that's why I curled up with the fan, in fact, now I can ask you questions because I've never done that, marching on a bronze. band, there is something very nice about the fact that they all play it together on walks or how should I do what should I imagine that they are in that was the appeal of the fanfare, I will just say, playing together as a musician, yes, that's real, I think , yes, and the people who also sing together in the race, finally only three songs.

That is completely different from everyone who is sitting like this, certainly, certainly, it is three voices. You do it again, then it gets really bad, I'm at the piano, eh, at music school, my Beuningen and eh, but I'm proud of it eh, but he's always playing alone with a solo instrument, that's what you're doing then one more kick you suddenly put a coach behind you on the sexy trumpet with the saxophone because if you soon play a background in something like an orchestra or away from a sambale Yeah, that usually doesn't go much further than a few the bass notes usually have a Solomon so if you're on one of those things in the blazer then it's every two months the tube is four and I was Bas I was Bas de pom pom pom pom pom pom Pomp es If so, but I said he was completely involved in being together, that's now that I'm doing well, a very nice musician to play with, so he's playing a group, and the singers, uh, they were an electric guitar, seriously an extension of his Massacre , but all the beautiful women are looking and saying it's thinking like that.

Oh, that one there, the blonde one too and the pink one, and then you have the drummer who also, ah, the more he closes his muscles to his sweat and that. White is so this is not something to watch that doesn't say anything about all the women who are watching while he plays and the bass player and he needs to think about it alone or alone while he plays, that's true because we can do it together because I I once went to music school or something in the context of that time. Then there was a day of something that I know a lot about and I had to play it alone, being a musician and I only did that once in my life and that was actually a nipstra musician because it was allowed, right?

It was the day that Ella was allowed playing instruments and I know that's how I thought at the time, this is not for me Ops that I have and I always have there I try to make street music. I'm still going to give money because I have a suite. I think it's the same as a bit of comedians or something. Only on stage. You should have this house right on Meir, so if there's a Volkshuis, that's great, but that's how it happens when they come at 11 and drag in all kinds of instruments they had given you your first note You have to play, that's what you have What to do Yes, they had been I think it's a bit of a habit, like everything, right?

No, if you do that often then I think you feel it less than before, but you always have to take that first step like that, so I'm also the same with things, for example, uh, bands like choosing or something that are dressed like that and have a suit like that and that means that, according to Rena, they are fantastic, but they also did it in a small cafe at the beginning and they must have had that moment in the dressing room when she said men Yes, it's all or nothing here, it's not like that because that's how we look so we have to be there yes I have that moment after all that you dare to take that step, how the chain is so strong that the weakest link should only have one face, I don't know, all the morale in that dressing room is completely broken , so bed, that's all, you're a cat, you're a cat and now you only stay in that role because that was the one that cost you the most, it couldn't be any other way, right?

The Team Pieter Chris cat that was sitting there like that, really a cat, that's what happens to me, that seems to be the case. If then I have to eliminate characteristics self-consciousness is that something is good for the actor or something bad for an actor self-awareness very important very important if how can I say it if you would not be aware if they are not clear the text must also be hard if I have to kill someone but expersonally I could kill another person I can also kill anyone who commits that murder sometimes it's amazing that you say about that man or that woman and that avent stabbed but 50 so don I'm not going there either but then uh I had to be aware of myself, I can kill, I can handle all the feelings that are in me, ready, and if You didn't say that consciously and if they're just role-playing, you say "Oh, but it must be tiring if my face is turned towards the camera like that.

Being beautiful, yes, in other words, Seda in polite terms and that's why I've already killed people." in the mill or, uh, very bad, very It's ugly to do it if you can really get into a character that you say is not at all who I really am in my daily life. I'll put it this way, it's fun to do. It's a bit shocking when I feel like this. I'm very right, sauce. Take it, for example, when the people in her suitcase in Rubikar see her as so eh, such a fantastic woman, so fantastic, that's just what she had to do.

But there and without my knowledge things arose. with that I let my feelings go a little Wow I have Dick was behind the recording that reduction Sorry, apologies Expert, be open and suppose that you, for example, now I am going to honor Hugeix, because you also have quite a few things of yours that you really play someone, it's not that one at all, Gijs, but I always imagine that you said that actor who was like that with each version, so you have to play that scene and then you have to say the name hey eh ze ye It's okay because if you come then must take a big leap on your hood now.

What situation do you see then? By the way, for me it's a beech and the brain generally doesn't bake from me then. a role but once once filming a horror where that really had to go to the primitive man to the monkey and to myself and there I am two flower of three days yes what was that eh what is the name of the film now eh? Lazy Lazy Sinancieu, that's what it's called, is still a short horror film about the guy who obsessive, so through the hole there is a floor and then the people underneath and at the end I see that they are indeed no longer outside, what was around .

I have no spark plugs, those are the roles where you can do more, but say yes, fantastic, yes, beautiful colors, too, that's almost a painting, so it says very clean, a very good director, actually a Hast, so no movies come, so no Moroccan Liège. who makes the most horrible man the most beautiful horror movies Why did I make this movie or is that another movie no ah no that's good eh it works film actually translated In short I have what I call I have to find and he said that I can not I like dad with me like probably 94 yes eh it has to come with two things If the sex is good everything is fine never say So you shouldn't try we don't actually go Why does a 65 year old man break up suddenly?

He meets a PLAYMOBIL boy and his hospital arrives and your rope has fallen off, then he says That's because I always want real sex further away, but that's no fun with sex if you're always hanging around my father and more and more and eh. He knows. you can't Yeah, and that's the thing about that movie that was just a woman on the street in Naru and she thought she should take her with you or you knew she was a friend's great-grandmother and I knew that woman. completely not that was also very funny That one was 94 and he didn't have many teeth left or anything like that and then they ate good pink beer but carrots and the typical family food and then he put it all in the blender and then uh that mixture and those sandwiches, so huge, fat and strong.

Oh that figure is wonderful when you follow it uh I've just been on uh on uh freeze screen or what do you mean freeze frame I've been here for half an hour. now or something like that that's funny eyes uh laughing life this and then you see a terrible wind there Yeah yeah look that's just another person uh Yeah that's where I can still drill if I've done it offline I said and We have a vision and uh and a cinemasa already in buying the wardrobe in Ghent, but actually that's where we are Pieter mossaar anemone Valken and me and Mourads, me and that one too, Yes, the Moroccan, he went a little further because there was a match against Vienna with the film , then it was a little bit blacker but yeah, we watch that movie, we come, we're not going to bring, we never meet anything in my son And suddenly he says in the way or whatever, but he says Son are you walking Rudy Ah, yeah, but I'm not walking Rudy, but yeah, yeah, through that movie that way, but I didn't know that and what Why do you do it?

Is it something that you think about or is it that you are just in a character and you have the feeling that according to me he also moves like that no there is no choice or is it really something that comes from that is an idea about that person that you have when you have I have to consciously play everything so you lose stage and I usually read that based on my role I always read that and they are very to be able to place the film in which I am all, eh, and then there is a lot of unconsciousness for the rest, so in reality I already have That.

Sure, let me tell you for once how easy it is. I'm wearing clothes that aren't yours, so give me another shoe, I thought it would be different for walking, right? You already have eh, you understand that then. He says it sweetly. You have to do things that you would never do otherwise like this and what my mother. It is very difficult to realize that it is simple, it is very difficult. I don't have so many companions that hey who. I understand that starting Sportpaleis says There says my Voorburg yes, that is, of course, that is true, but yes, it is also a fact that you, I believe that it is still a magical thing to act, I can still look at someone and think, especially that .

You have seen what all the good actors can do and what you can do, but what really the good ones who can also let 10 emotions pass on your face without him saying anything, which I also say seems extremely punishing to me, I think is it because you see so much in that role that everything you do that you also feel or is it a conscious thing that you think I think now he is doing this or now you think I am of course always leave me on and then I can if the young people ask him like this to the camera You have to stand a little to the left so I can stand a little to the left what I do I do the voilà andI grabbed, I'm Willaert on TV and he when I was a little kid and I remember him very Well, he had my hair and it was disappointing.

I fell into education. He's probably not like me, for example, but I'm actually what he can do, like this, adult, angry at them and then angry at them as a person. , angry at them as a person. I wouldn't have said that about dad, but I don't like him. So I shouldn't say it because they're sitting and nowhere is the distance Forgetting the childhood that is and now finally the adulthood And when you know it, it's like that, that's also minimal but that's bullshit that doesn't make sense That's not true That's been loved since you were born What doesn't suit you You meant I think you've always been serious about caring for children as a full person, that's World War II.

Force feeding throws it in the trash and with much gratitude, um, that child that we see and that transport, that has, um, mva, evidence of Fra, just throws away the plate, that will never be forgotten. that moment is actually an animal, right? In fact, I think it's a kind of racism towards women, even women are still a little less than men, honestly, that should be the case, but don't say racism, racism towards me and me. Think of AH person actually as something you have to do, I think he thinks very highly of himself, how smart. That will be small, yes, that is well said, I don't know, I think they mainly tell you a lot of things that then you take with you, but I do know that like I said because you are pure in that book, I say I hope you recognize it.

Yes, I recognized a lot in him and you also recognize many things that What you find very important at that moment, but that was taught to you by the teacher around you, should not be seen as a full-fledged activity, about the clouds is also something, No matter how many times I've been told that, it will sound familiar. You, no doubt, always have a head in the clouds, while you think that. Yes, but that's how I am now, right? That's how I am, I've earned it, eh, no. Yes, that is a certain moment. when you have chosen to continue persevering with it and that is yes, read, it is also in your book that at a certain moment the cell makes a decision of No, that's it.

I never don't feel like it and that's also a third thing, there's almost no choice, sometimes I feel like I think this didn't work for me, to do something else or choose, as you see for yourself, that maturity to let go of that imagination or That dream, what is that, is something that always makes you sad to see when that happens to people who had a very hard time when they were young and what do you think? What happened if and no if if if I just say that I say it then Also in that book Of adults there is still 2% who could be engaged in creative time by chance and there are all kinds of things in between, from teachers to Yes, everywhere there are people like that who retain that creativity and who actually write that in my book, but in Actually, almost all the scientists that I support are in the book and have also preserved the soul of a child for things like that for sale, of course, that's also nice that you have a book, um, that's not a spoiler, but it ends with a song Alé, in part because it still has a kind of appendix ending but and that song I I don't know if you have that movie.

Elvis saw the new basic Norman that ends with that, so he wasn't good with that because I wasn't good with that ending either, the Only Lands Wants When It song. Die Yeah, that's the story of that movie and I saw the plane fly and then the stars turned like that and I was devastated and I read there and I thought Oh yes, of course, because that's such a beautiful idea too, isn't it my? my girlfriend made the long player, but while I was working on it, of course, it's also finished from time to time music, then me and the conspirators are found music city music that I like to listen to, but I say it's your movie, it's just a movie and Now that song is effectively finished with her, this Ling.

He's not the one who reflects that and he's so tired. That's a story that you heard Elvis say that's actually the voiceover telling the actor who plays that and he actually describes his life with that. But your life. It also relates to my life that's true if it's just that I'm not going to talk because that's also something that I felt in the end only that there is a bird, so I have a photo of him next to a chair, that's the Swift, but here and in the city of Antwerp, they're everywhere, OK, when you hear that peak shape so high in the air, that's since when and those countries don't actually connect, but they do.

So if that's all That was nice on the coast. We only had one John who looked after the bird species and I don't know how many people, sometimes people who traveled 20 km with a car, shared those sons here, heavy that you found on the ground a little no longer. flies and puts it in a box ladies and that Jonnes say yes eh Maybe it can heal and then to the ground in the air it just disappeared again so that bird has evolved so much eh that it can no longer fly on the ground it can take off Yes, so it doesn't land, it's already sleeping, it's flying Yes, it's in the air, it stays, eh, it stays, the Swedes and so on, Eh, the dolphins sleep like that, it could be sleeping, awake, it's just sleeping, awake, like that , and eh, I think it's a fantastic example that could be here, but above all I thought it was very nice and when in the container he read that song in that text then I said Ah yes, I also understand why a book ends there, not the everything but it does end partly because of that, so it's very exciting Yes, voilà and then a few more realistic ones that are also added because it's always sometimes a shame that they say feet on the ground sometimes it can be something nice to say okay, you have that keeping your feet on the ground also sounds like something to think about to push yourself, but then I think so, but then you have to take off from the ground from time to time because Otherwise, it was very nice that hahaha, that you are here you have to take off from time to time, a beautiful expression is still a beautiful expression Ah, my Bim Willaert.

Thanks for coming, man, it was super cool. I'm glad I finally met you. in person and we really have to do it, but we're not just going to look for the radio, then I have to go to the coast for someday a good fishing job for you. Yes, but you are invited. But that would have been, then we would be. I am very happy to accept that whole invitation because I also know that I know quite a few people from West Flanders and that is one thing they can do is receive people and spend moments How to eat with all the fun in any case Wim Willaert Thank you. for coming with the book, I am overwhelmed with our good friends Borger or at Lambrechts, it is in all stores and so on, it can also be ordered in all places where it can be ordered, eh, try very hard, suddenly I read it in one time. and it didn't take any effort Although the theme is not always simple but it's still great It's a romantic work It's a philosophical work and it's a scientific work and you can't often say that about romances, so at least about which one Wim wants, let Wim.

Thanks for coming. It was fantastic. Now we hope to see many series and movies on Ridiculous and when a new book comes out because you are writing, then, wait a second, it will come back. We'll chat about it anyway, guest or we'll always come back if you have something new, so Voilà, that's it for us, uh, for this week. I'm Alex, that's up to Dries. We are

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