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F74 - Georg DF9ZV im Gespräch über Morsen CW gestern & heute und das Funken bei der Bundeswehr

Mar 11, 2024
like Schorsch here in the club, but you are Georg with the call sign Delta Fox 9 only Victor and I already filmed you a little while you were participating in the contest here on CW, that is, the Morse operation and the viewers probably already know it . It was extremely fast, how can you stop like that? You've been working so fast for three hours, it's just no longer possible for a normal station to understand what's happening, it just sounds like a telegraph, that's pretty simple Kirk First of all, it's as simple as reading with your ears. You and I, we all learned to read and we started very slowly, we learned the letters with our eyes, we had little drawings and we learned words and at some point we all knew the letters. putting words together and reading slowly for a long time and if you practice and practice more, you read the newspaper and you no longer see the individual letters, but you immediately recognize whole words or groups of letters as words and the same goes for measurements.
f74   georg df9zv im gespr ch ber morsen cw gestern heute und das funken bei der bundeswehr
Not With the eyes but with the ears, the learning process is exactly the same and takes approximately the same time. You have to practice for a long time and at some point it appears and then you can do it as well as reading. It's probably the moment where you just stop, but if you really think about it, it's like when you learn a foreign language and you spend the first few years constantly translating from German to the other language in real time and at some point the sentences come and you don't even you think about it, you can't think about it because you have three letters of Oblivion like everything is completely normal and then you speak and then you speak a foreign language when you are completely normal at some point.
f74   georg df9zv im gespr ch ber morsen cw gestern heute und das funken bei der bundeswehr

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But the way you've been working here now is still exhausting, you can't do it for hours, so at some point you really need to concentrate. You just told me that it is true, especially with the competition operation we are doing. here, of course, it is a matter of concentration because if you call on one frequency, many stations will call you at the same time, we call it peilup and then it is the art of doing it. Another exercise in this confusion was, as the saying goes, listening to individual call signs or fragments of call signs and then, from these feelings, finding a station to then call specifically.
f74   georg df9zv im gespr ch ber morsen cw gestern heute und das funken bei der bundeswehr
It's a matter of concentration and, of course, you have to do it after a certain time. rest It's like when you work hard on an Excel table, it's a matter of concentration. Now I know that you also have experience in the Bundeswehr and that's when the radius calculation started. That's why you're already so advanced. So there is a question to answer. Yes, I have the appropriate experience in the Bundeswehr. I did telegraphy in morso, that is, with a touch radio detector, as it was called then and, by the way, it is still used today. I joined the Bundeswehr for telecommunications reconnaissance because I could do it tomorrow.
f74   georg df9zv im gespr ch ber morsen cw gestern heute und das funken bei der bundeswehr
I learned to measure from my father from a very young age; About 10 years ago, my father was not a radio amateur, but he was a professional radio operator in the riot police. , he telegraphed, so he was really fooled in childhood, so to speak, and as a result, he was particularly encouraged in the Bundeswehr and then maybe you just had the talent to really get involved and that's how you got to this level of performance where you're because I know there's not much like shorthand and so on and so on and so many characters per minute certain level what's your level in minimum mode up to 200 letters per minute I think I've never done it I measured it correctly so I have to admit that too I was faster in my youth.
Now in contest mode, the year is relatively easy because there are only certain sequences. The sequences still appear, but the real trick is when you try to record plain text in German or English. plain text that's the real challenge because it reads correctly and you don't know what the next word is you can slowly grasp the meaning so that's the challenge and at my peak I was at 300 letters per minute I think Now I can record from 200 to 50 without errors, so I have to explain again what you mean in a contest like this, they are very standardized, the processes are exactly what you expect, certain answers and then no conversation occurs in a short time. conversation, however, if a certain command is to be transferred in a Bundeswehr scenario, it is very individual information, yes, that cannot be said only about that.
Briefly clarifying means identifying certain radio stations and of course also writing down what they write there. , but they are always relatively standardized radio messages that are structured according to a certain standard, but what I mean is what we do. Doing amateur radio, which is already a bit if, for example, you sit outside the context. and you close your eyes, you have your nose button here and then you can speak plain text in normal German with another person with your eyes closed like we're having a conversation and at high speed it's a conversation with your fingers and that's a good thing now that Lo I just demonstrated and also filmed it in detail: it is no longer the classic Morse key that you have, so when you hear about tomorrow, then there is a different technology, something new has always been.
There, what is the reason why you now work like this and not like that, by the way, unconsciously you just said SOS, that is the only thing you can do very consciously, that is why the brand of the keyboard is called that. -called tap or which actually used to be the standard and today if you want to learn Morse code you have to start with it again, just the analogy with reading and writing because you can use it. You learned to write with a fountain pen in school, so may you get good, clean writing. The basics, yes, but nowadays you no longer do it because these keys are the so-called automatic keys, they have electronic support and that is what costs time and tires you when you press the tap. key or give dashes that this key does automatically, always taking out the dots with the thumb, with the index finger the dashes and some letters consist of dot-dash combinations such as the C, which was a mistake, which is a C and then you can do both things, always press dots and dashes alternately.
This is called the so-called search technique. This is actually the standard way to telegraph today. For the first time I have made it as clear as crystal. The question marks are equally interesting to the audience because like I said, you only know this Morse code, but you say a basic when you start, you start a lot slower, so this technique is probably also meant to just get faster, right, right, that's what you would say with the normal stroke button, yeah. exactly, that wouldn't work at all, but it shouldn't. In any case, a beginner should deal with this first and if you say these are your peak moments and then the best years, you gave 300 characters per minute, what does a beginner mean in comparison, if now he starts learning with the key, what can you do?
Because it can be achieved in a year with one keystroke, I say because of the design, no, because my hand can move faster than I can. Good telegraphers can type up to 120 letters per minute with the tap key or tap key. It's really over and you don't do it for too long because then your wrists get really tired. But that's a good thing and some people can do it. As with everything, there are those who say that the fans are so beautiful, there are also the telegraphers. The people who specialize in this traditional way of telegraphing, these are the buttons.
There are also those that would perhaps lead to this point. , but there are also semi-automatic buttons in the days when people telegraphed and this electronics did not yet exist. The points were given with a mechanical pendulum and then the lines were normalized. They were also horizontally constructed keycaps that are still available today. the so-called semi-automatic bugs or loose keys, that's what they are called, so you can also acquire a very distinctive letter, so that you recognize the letter to a radio operator if you know it, that is, by the way it works, just like I recognize your handwriting when I receive letters from you, I also recognize my friends who are with me.
That's also something I like to do at home with semi-automatic mechanics. If you press the button, they recognize me and I recognize them. without that it would be called a call sign, so the dots and dashes mean short, long tones, exactly, yes, that's basically the most original digital format, yes, a CD is also written that way, so there are dashes short and long ones Dash and that is a zero and a one and this creates a chain and in some way a combination and in principle it is nothing more, it is exactly a digital works council, it is not exactly nothing more than a digital company, We know 0 and 1 and the corresponding pauses in between and yes I have to say that it is fascinating, although I am quite sure that in my life I will not be able to reach a level like the one you achieved, no, but there is something charming about it, that anyone would like.
Who thinks it like me? Would you start these days, how would you be able to get into something like this and try it without giving up everything again out of pure frustration? You definitely have to be patient, yes, but how do you start? Well, of course, it all starts with you. There are also telegraph operators who have a kind of sense of mission and then say: wow, everything that is not in moderation is not real amateur radio or yes, me. I think that's dishonest and dishonest because everyone finds their niche in our hobby, what makes them happy, no.
So the most important thing is that you are interested, that you would like to be able to do it and that is the most important thing. because what you would like to be able to do, of course you will learn it with some perseverance, of course it is necessary, how is it done? Find someone in the club who can do it and who can then give you advice. , but there are now very good websites on the Internet that can also be written to the extent of amateur radio with a learning program in which you are systematically guided through the letters in certain units and then, with individual lessons, you get to Know all the letters and when you achieve it, the speed increases.
I would recommend just searching the internet. There is an internet address that is easy to remember, that is, just type it into Google to learn CW online. This is Fabian dj5 CW, one of ours. Quick telegraphers who wrote this website highly recommended great so I would like to thank you for taking your time here in the middle of the contest and I guess you have to keep working on the points here and I think the information was a little bit yeah so maybe the forgot. device or on the background device you gave us a good idea thank you for that and I have already had a lot of success everything is clear take care thank you for the interview

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