CITY VS LIVERPOOL: PREMIER LEAGUE'S GREATEST RIVALRY? w/ @AdamMcKola & @theredmentv

arsenal chelsea is a bigger

rivalry

than arsenal space arsenal has one day to officially finish above tottenham they have one day to finish they don't have one day to finish any other club so that tells you everything hello my the name it's flav this is the last man standing it's that time of the week again the new football debate show where how passionate you are about the beautiful game will give you the opportunity to say whatever you want about it the show is divided into three rounds At the end of the third round we will have our last fan standing.

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premier

league

table to get into the champions

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places he just didn't want to show his face on camera let's get to the show so on this week's show we have adam mccollough, paul matron and lee judges, yes At this point I don't know how this works: when someone says something objectively good, I press this button and they get a point and can eventually become the last man.

Let's get into this in the first round. The punishment for Ronaldo for hitting the phone. out of the hand of a fan should be like what should be even should be punished Adam should be forced to play with these idiots for the rest of the season what's European police and stuff um I think he's probably polished enough better uh on serious note I don't really know I don't really know what people look like like Cristiano Ronaldo should be prepared for those kinds of cases and he shouldn't react to those kinds of things I mean walk through a tunnel like that whether United win, lose or draw every week, most of the time it's after we lose, but he's on that stage every time, whether you won and someone is calling you names or you lost and someone is calling you out. garbage or whatever happens every week, so he should be prepared for that and shouldn't react.

On the other hand, people are just human, sometimes they get angry and react to things. Do I think he should be suspended on a football field? I'm not too sure about that, maybe I just don't know, I told him that he offered the guide to have the opportunity to come to Old Trafford and he is very quick, that's how you know when a footballer or at least his relations team public knows it is there. done something wrong when they come out very quickly, yes, if it takes two or three days in a public protest, then you think that he doesn't really regret this, but maybe it's Paul, what has he really maintained his professionalism?

He is almost a robot. nature anyway surely you have been able to put aside his emotions or what you did with it. I'm sure you enjoyed it to some extent as a Liverpool fan, oh but you know, yeah, look, you can't look past Christian's fight. Ronaldo, on the surface, just grabbed the phone out of someone's hand because he was a little bit upset and, as you know, I mean, it's, it's, it's, objectively, kind of a pretty funny thing, but I don't know, I think you know. . in terms of the point he should be more professional he's not he's not a young trickster with a fiery hot temper and you know he's doing something dumb because you don't know he hasn't been in life situations before honestly i think It's he's done it because it's more because I don't know, I think he thinks he's like a superhuman and the idea that he thinks he doesn't want the world to know that he bleeds because that's part of the aging process or something that I think he wants.

That everyone thinks he's perfect in every way and probably because he remembers a similar image floating around of a babysitter's leg from years and years ago when he got fouled and enough, but that became a bit of a constant. something ongoing, so yeah, it's like he tried to erase the evidence, it's baffling, like it's a baffling, baffling decision. I agree with Adam, but maybe go a step further in terms of punishment. He should be punished with a life contract. To be completely honest, you know Manchester United because you know he deserves, he deserves to hold on now, this is made to face the music and play for United for the rest of his career, that's your boy or come on a little nicer. summer fair in the schoolyards and like kids are allowed to show up and take the phone out of his hands, he has to stand there like that, but years, just standing there, you'll go, you're good, yeah, a 50p for charity and you.

He tries to try, he's slapping Cristiano Ronaldo, but he either asked for a phone, maybe there's some kind of dunk tank involved, so he came off the field and he was, obviously he's injured. um United had just lost to Everton and there was someone who was. to some extent invading their space, although it is very normal. Lee, what do you think about fans having a responsibility to keep their distance? Yes they are, to some extent, not only necessarily in this case, but there have been cases where you see the fans. Incite professional footballers and Man United coaches.

In fact, the other week we threw things at Simeone if he reacted and jumped into the crowd, whose fault would be the fans or him. You know, fans have responsibilities too. Yes, I have it one hundred percent. Definitely the fans have a responsibility and they shouldn't do things like that, but also the player has a responsibility, it's been happening for years, the players have to put up with all this kind of stuff, so for me, you know, Cristiano, I love him . but he, he should be used to all that, but the free game ban um without a doubt, come on, why?

Because you know Jamie Carragher. I remember tossing a coin into the crowd after he got tossed back and he got banned for three games and um it's a little different the reason was because the game was happening but in the end Christian shouldn't react like that um and listen he has there has to be some kind of punishment, you know, eric cantona banned him because for jumping into the crowd he was off the court at the same time, you know you can't have one roll for one and another for the other, I'm afraid they'll ban it three games and, actually, I should go to the box.

Everton and hospitality are not the obvious child, they are going with united men at the moment, you know, look, it's a fair punishment, isn't it? I mean Ronaldo, I mean, either way, he has to be punished appropriately for this and that's what. It's more of a punishment to have to be a Manchester United player or to have to see everything once. Someone might say harsh, but I say that the punishment has to fit a crime and the question is whether we feel that Ronaldo deserves that horrendous punishment because he is a you know. a smash act so I can't really say if there should have been a ban originally, if he should have a three game ban or he should just be allowed to continue with just a word from all of you, no don't ban him. punish him in case he is banned from playing, yes you know it's a criminal offense, okay, ban him three games and that's it, so after the first round we have a tie at the top, Paul and Lee have 11 points and Adam has 10, very, very close, so the round. two, buy or sell this statement, Manchester City's draw with Liverpool means the title will go to Manchester, let's start with you, Paul, is it over?

One point, no, obviously not, but if everyone wants to feel that way, it's just a question, it's just a question. It's just a question, no, no, no, and you have a right to ask that question and I have a right to find it quite surprising. um, uh, no, okay, I'm okay with that, if that's the consensus that people are pushing for. they are made up absolutely made up, I hope the

city

feels that way too, I hope they feel like it's done and dusted, like the side of the

city

that fell explained it by their own standards, a significant amount of points in 2020, I'm I'm sure They're very nervous there, I'm sure they're very nervous, yes, yes, I know they definitely are, but I hope they feel like it's done and dusted.

Does it take attention away from Liverpool because I feel like there's a bit more drama left, are you confident, Paul? How do you feel? You know, it feels very similar to 1819, where Liverpool got ahead, but they had fewer games and we had to play them and all that kind of stuff. I feel like I will never knock them out of the league this season. I've done it for a while. City would win the European Cup, but I see that they decided to win the ball. That's the nature of how good Arsenal are. Trust isn't the right word, but I don't know.

I am very calm because I never walk away. Miles even offered to be in the conversation. I think it's pretty good until they were left in the conversation, which they couldn't be. You know, they could have been out. Four points. I think it would have been unbeatable. I look back, I have hope. I hope that matters, miss in the end, there is one who will look back at the end of the season if City just miss out and if they would just win the title. I hope that if we had Miss Marley, she could have basically won the league and erased the lines from her and I hope that's it.

I'm sure there will be a conversation about the bottle job in the near future if Manchester City don't do it. Lee, um, what do you think of what? For me, I feel like all of these two teams are going to win every game and that would mean City would. I especially think that if there is a game to lose, then Nevada and Liverpool will lose to Spurs at Anfield. but apart from that, if they win every game, it means that the city of Liverpool does not know everything they can. What do you think about this? I think it's far from over and the reason is that I don't think Manchester City are as clinical as Liverpool. that's my thing again, they should have finished that game yesterday.

Sterling should have scored in the first few minutes. Mahrez should have scored at the end and I think they have one of those games in them when they can. He just hits the door the whole game and doesn't score. I still think he's very open and I feel like with Liverpool I feel like they have more goals in them, the main city and the men's city are able to hit the door all the time. game and miss chances and get a new zero at some point oh yeah you know this is a team that has lost to the Spurs twice you know what I mean not just once twice yeah you're welcome welcome , you know, at the end of the Day, I hope and pray that these are those six points for Liverpool to become winners of the Premier League because they deserve it and that is the reason why Manchester City have another game in the one who can lose to a team like Tottenham twice and can go down. points in the next games I must remind you that this is the Spurs team that is currently but that the team like Tottenham that is currently oh, it's taking you 40 minutes to mention that well done, well, you know, well done, well, no , you're welcome, sorry, uh Adam, obviously, this is a nightmare scenario, actually, because obviously the two teams that you love, I mean, to be honest, you're making me sick, no dude, sorry, not my intention, but you do. in this program and you have to talk about it who do you prefer what do you think this could happen who would you prefer it's obvious I would prefer Manchester City to win yes, the minor one was in the sense that if you are a paul winnick, there are 20 in total um , so from that perspective I don't want to live with 20 titles, in fact, even if it were, could we give them the thumbs up not to mention it will be? r 13 2 will be ah oh you mean time of the ball so the only two would be the major league yeah yeah yeah okay yeah well I mean it's one in thirty but you know it'll be twenty in total if they win this year.

So yeah, I don't want Liverpool to win. I never want Liverpool to win a raffle anyway. So yeah, I don't want a little Portland in it. But I don't think that draw necessarily changed how close it is. to be me, I think you watch, you watch the city games and as you watch them and say, oh city, you're going to win every game, there are games there like Brighton, where you think Black Lee was saying those are potential skins banana. where, I mean, I experienced it this weekend, where you could easily face Brighton and get beaten, you could face brighter ones, they get beaten, you know what I mean, or get a draw.

Grandpa is a good coach and I think not. They went to Brighton last year and lost the whole tie. No, it's something I remember correctly. It happened anyway, yes, so, yes, I think Manchester City could still lose points and should still play. but when you watch the games and see that Liverpool have to play against Spurs, you would probably make Man look at the favorites, so the scores after the second round, Paul and Adam, have 23 points each and Lee is third with 21. So, round three. Blank and Blank are the biggest rivals in the Premier League. What is the biggest

rivalry

in the Premier League?

I certainly think it's Tottenham andArsenal for a very good reason, but actually let's start with you, is it Tottenham and Arsenal? Oh, that's difficult because, You know if you're going to play the whole Premier League then you know that Tottenham has I haven't really been a rival with anyone like you know, so, you have the big good, you all have the big arsenal, the rivalry between Man United, who were incredible, and now I'm going to be honest, are putting themselves in the same kind of territory as Manchester City Liverpool. I think you know you had two teams like Arsenal Men's United back in the day that were head and shoulders above everyone else and it's the same now with Liverpool Manchester City and they were exciting. games, I don't care what they say, the rivalry between Man United and Arsenal was exciting, maybe like it wasn't a local derby rivalry because you know one is north and south, where Tottenham and Arsenal are, I think than in recent years.

Now it's getting very, very intense because there's not much difference between the two teams. If you look at the Manchester library, that doesn't really go in one direction, isn't less Paul more important? I don't feel it? Is it so important to have things that matter off the pitch rather than wanting them, like Spurs and Arsenal? There is a political argument about that, isn't there, is there something that exists outside the football pitch that would always mean that we are each other's rivals, you still can't help it, the problem with Arsenal fans is that they focus on what It happens on the field all the time and you're missing the point, well you might as well say that and I won't agree with that because I agree that what happens on the field doesn't matter anymore.

Arsenal Man United can still fight for the Europa League, so there is still that rivalry for 10 years, for 10 years, West Ham, uh, Tottenham started to have West Ham. like their rivals because they didn't, they couldn't stand it being an Arsenal man who didn't have a rivalry, so yes, you're asking that question, there's always been that rivalry between Arsenal Spurs because, and I understand, Spurs annoy you. What I know is that we entered your territory and took control. It must be very painful to have that happen to you like you know, and we take control and accept it, I guess it's very, very difficult, so there will always be that underlining, um. element between Arsenal and Spurs I think it's listening, I think it's fantastic, I do it too and I absolutely hate it, that's why it means it's so important, I think it's more, I guess the conversation for you is, are you the principal of the other? rival or has the ads changed um, I don't think so, I think the fiercest thing is the rivalry and not the derby, yes, yes, it was Manchester United's arsenal.

There was always a bit of a needle, a needle between the coaches, a needle between the players, the captains, everything you see, Kevin. de bruyne and that coming off the pitch shaking hands hugging and that and everything is a bit friendly so I think in terms of football and the quality of football it's on par with Manchester United's arsenal um but I think not There is enough needle, therefore, to make it the fiercest right away, although in terms of football quality it is of course up there. In terms of a derby, I've always felt, obviously, like the two biggest teams of Manchester United and Liverpool.

That when we play against each other I'm more nervous about that game than anything else, but the quality of the games is never really good. As a neutral, I always enjoy watching the North London derbies because they tend to be good games. of football, you know what I mean, but yes, in terms of the fiercest rivalry, I have to go to Manchester United Arsenal, it's because the only thing I have to hold on to is the past and believe me, I'm holding on him. You're actually making me feel good You're actually making me feel like you're somehow making me feel a little sorry for you Like wait, where are you talking about man right now?

It's incredible, yes, you should feel it, there is no chance, um, paul, there is However, there is something to be said about the rivalry between Arsenal and Man United, where it was not just the clubs that were facing each other, but they had two captains on their team playing the exact same position who at that moment seemed to absolutely love each other. The others surely had respect, but they just wanted to beat each other in every way and that added narrative gives it a strong argument or do you think otherwise? Paul, no, no, I agree it has its place, but I always have.

The United Arsenal rivalry seemed a bit strange to me. You know, I think it always surprises me how much the anger is between those fan bases and stuff, and I don't know, I look at it and I think there are rivalries that you have, it seems like I think it's a footballer, so every club Soccer has to go with the United States, as if it were Mount Rushmore, whatever players they were, they would put you on the side of a man. You meet the biggest names to ever play for that football club, and then you have generational players who, if you were older or supported a football club at a certain time, were the best players and you loved them, but you never they came to triumph. get to that state and I think intentional rivalries are crazy because for me Arsenal United was just a rivalry from that era, you know, and then you have United's money, Chelsea a little bit later and Liverpool have a little bit of one with Chelsea you will be the European at that time, I don't think that going back to the 80s, that would have been there, you know, local, never having had a rivalry in that sense, in which It is for me because I agree with Adam's point about Liverpool Manchester United.

Those two teams have never been neck and neck, so they've never really done it, they've just finished what once first and second in 2008 2009 they could have done. It may have been closed before, but those two teams have never fought for the title and yet they are still the two, they are the two biggest clubs in the country and they still have, I think, the biggest. The most watched game is still the game that everyone marks on the calendar, so I would say it's the little Manchester United, it's the biggest rivalry, but in terms of where the arguments come from, it's this idea of ​​the same level of quality and what do you and the Liverpool man have?

Inter-city rivalry right now, the level at which those two teams play is a level the league has never seen, so there is no similar historical depth and clearly there is antipathy between the two clubs. Clearly, there is a lot of respect between Clop and Guardiola like De Bruyne and Van Dijk and this kind of thing, there is a real sport like an honest sport and there is rivalry, but yeah, it has nothing to do with it, I don't know, it doesn't grab. the headlines the same way because you don't have martin keown jumping in some guy's face, yeah, and that kind of thing so honestly historically for the united program, I don't know any jocks from the city, don't go in the same sentence , No. that's also true that's true yeah yeah yeah people don't care I don't want to say this before so you know that's another point I was going to make no like I don't think you hate c and it's like that's what makes a rivalry. you're doing your best to get the best out of me oh yeah I like my problem no one cares the problem with all these arguments is that you're talking about quality and don't you need quality for a great rivalry? arsenal chelsea is a bigger rivalry than arsenal spencer you're away you don't know what you're talking about paul you're the arsenal spurs you know you've got Liverpool Man United, they both hate each other, but no, you know, but they like to have a me like forever and everything or Man City as you know, but I'd rather have um um you win in the league than Liverpool and all that.

Let's get this straight, I hate Man United, but if it's about Manchester United and Tottenham winning the league, it's Manchester United every day and that's the difference between that, there you know, there, there, you go, the right of the supposed Arsenal. Yes, Lee, this is true, isn't it officially finished above Tottenham? They have a day for it. They don't have a day for any other finish above any other club. That tells you everything you know. Anyone else is genuine. They fit like spurs, you know, I mean, I'll tell you I went, yesterday I went to tescos and, um, shopping, and you can count all the Tottenham shirts that I had to go out and get on my nerves, you know what I mean, like they're about there's a genuine dislike between Arsenal and Spurs fans and you know I can't when when you hear Man United fans say oh I'd rather Manchester win the league than Liverpool.

I can not understand it. around that because you're in the same city or the same place as Arsenal Spurs it's like I hate Chelsea, but if it's a conflict between Chelsea and Tottenham and Chelsea are winning things regularly, I still want that Chelsea will eventually win the league, defined Alex Ferguson. manchester United Ferguson defined Manchester United by taking Liverpool off the field and that was like that, Liverpool Manchester United, yes, they don't want the other to win because there is a constant battle for the number of trophies between Liverpool and Manchester United, if the Liverpool would have many fewer trophies.

United would be neither, I would be close to being worried about Liverpool and the same with me to be honest, I don't want United to win another league title because they will put a bigger gap between us and them in the league. and that's a lot of what it comes down to in the third round scores: Lee is our winner this week. 34 points coming from behind to win. Paul and Adam share second place with 33. Well, I've earned bragging rights today and this is it. what I'm going to talk about sky sports bt sports, whoever is making the decision to put the games on monday nights and at different times and all that, and it's affecting the fans of the match, for example, Arsenal playing in Newcastle on a weekend, Sunday. and then they changed it three weeks later to a Monday night canceling all weekend plans ruining every fan's weekend in Newcastle now this is something that happens to all the fans too um if the Manchester United could fall on a Friday night.

Liverpool might go somewhere in London on a Monday night and you can't get back because of trains and stuff, it has to stop, it has to be full for the fans, so if Liverpool play Evan, do it a Monday. night, make it easier for the match, the fans have a little time, a little consideration for the fans, please, that's what I'm going to say, that's what I want to say, come on, do it, that That's it for another last man standing week, congratulations. to the judges for winning this week's episode, what do you think about their thoughts on making sure the matches are played in a way that suits the fans and not sending us all over the country to watch games that were very, far from home? on a Monday night, I think something must change too, who knows, remember if you're still here, that must mean you enjoy the show, remember to like and subscribe and I'll see you next week.

Thank you so much.