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This and That: JGP Ostrava, Lilah Fear and Lewis Gibson 2022 Britannia Cup, Mao Shimada

Mar 07, 2024
triple axis and maybe that was part of the problem, but you know what, but the audience will respond as if it were a triple axis and that's what you see in some of these moments. back and forth and I thought oh that could have been a great moment, yeah if you had committed yourself to the position a little more, let's talk about

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week's junior grand prix, who stood out to you, what would you like? Oh, the Czech ice dancers, yeah, let's start there because, last year at the junior worlds, they bombed the nationals, but

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, you know, I like them tall and this was a team that wasn't afraid to take up space.
this and that jgp ostrava lilah fear and lewis gibson 2022 britannia cup mao shimada
Every position they did was huge and extended and finished and especially um, their opening images were just amazing and I thought they're their um, what do we call them pairing elements or combination elements where, in particular, that opening rotational lift in the free dance that I like fell to the ground? It was just amazing, some of the solo moments with one foot or the twizzles were a little less than some of her lifts and spins and stuff like that, but overall it was a team I couldn't beat and in the rhythm dance, she was practically wearing a floor length dress and at first I was quite nervous because it looked perfect for tripping or getting in the way or something but she pulled it off really well and her one footed moments were just sensational perfectly shot poses the wingspan I just couldn't get enough of He's real He's the flower of the team He's really the flower He was giving us some deep louis

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action in the free skate Yeah, yeah, they're a really good dance team That made a lot of people take notice, yes, I thought they really were gifts and there was like a circle of energy around them as they went everywhere, yes, they went everywhere on that ice, huge patterns, fast patterns, big extended patterns. he couldn't get enough no, he didn't win but minkucio from korea wait a minute both programs did have problems in the triple cell and the double axis in the free does not have triple axis or quadruple in the program however, but his general technique, his skating skills, his spins, he has enough performance for his age, it seems like he has enough ingredients that you really look for, yeah, skater to go all the way and he's quite a bit younger than the winner um nizomu uh yoshida from Japan, I think I destroyed that name with my own handwriting, but I thought Mikucio really had the right ingredients to be a top level skater and his toe jumping technique was so fantastic.
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In both programs I was impressed. he doesn't really have the costume, I didn't understand the music, I didn't understand it, but at first it seemed like in the free skate he was doing one of those open Michael Bublé things like bow ties and then you look. up close and it wasn't really that because I thought that doesn't go with this music, but then you look and it was like an open piece of gauze that wasn't meant to look like that, um, but when she extends her movements which she still doesn't always do, but I feel like it's totally on track because I kind of saw it, especially before some of the combos, um and then I was doing the transitions, but it was kind of like okay, I know.
this and that jgp ostrava lilah fear and lewis gibson 2022 britannia cup mao shimada
I'm doing this to make the jump, but then he would turn around and then do a more choreographic moment and he sold it like crazy, so you know he's there and I think he'll continue to come out more over time with the right choreographer. he could be flawless, his back spiral was one of the best moments of the entire show, oh yeah, yeah, he had a great unicamel, I mean, he has a lot of ingredients to be really spectacular in the future, yeah, I think he's someone to who needs to be watched. I really, really enjoyed skating him a lot.
this and that jgp ostrava lilah fear and lewis gibson 2022 britannia cup mao shimada
Now I will say that Nozomu has great knee bend and technique. His quad fingers were really fantastic. Looking at him at his age. Looking at who he faces. The only thing I think his skating is really missing is that showmanship. what we are used to from Japanese men and that he is facing such strong skaters. I don't know in his own country how he'll be able to break through without maybe a couple more quads because kazuki are really spectacular on all skaters and I feel like he's lacking a little bit in performance, but he really has impressive technique and really cool so what I hope happens is what Japan is good at because they have so many tour opportunities and shows available that I hope they include it as many things as possible because I think some of that is only taught through the experience of all those audiences and even at the junior grand prix you know it's

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like the audience you know is not the same as it could be if we skate at the Japan Open or some tour there where there will be more people and inherently you have to perform for them, yes, but I want to say that he thanked Minky at 13, it's already kind of a spectacle, it's there, yeah, I mean, some people have that. more than others, everyone is somewhat right, but this is, yes, now I have to say that Mao Shimada's free skate, yes, there was a fall on the quad toe, his landing position in those triple lots that Charlotte came back in it was like the moment of the show for me, that's what. the refinement in her skating she has everything that's the right statistical question because we saw both her and ikura kushida there with mia hamada so I guess I didn't understand the state of things for miya hamada I was under the impression that She may not be allowed to train, but she obviously brought two young people to this competition, she clearly is, but in the absence of Terry and Mia she is obviously on the run, people are talking about her more on social media now and that's what that has been happening. deep down for some time, i remember someone saying, you know she's the japanese terry, someone told us moons ago that she shows you that she's a terry, but miya hamada could be considered more dangerous because she doesn't necessarily show it to you and that's scary .
I'm more right, look, there are people who don't like it when we tell you what we think, Jonathan, but I'm more afraid of the person who doesn't tell you what they think, of course, yes, the one who shows you without asking. sorry who are they? Do they really believe in what they are doing? The other must almost know that something is wrong. Who is who? Do you consider some of the scariest people in skating? I would say that Tammy Gamble is not like silence, the UN, the unknown, Terry, a cherry. She has no filter, yeah, yeah, Tammy's so terrified that to me she's like Mia Hamada now, the happiness that's the fake cheerleader in her, yeah, maybe she used to be like Santa Claus before, yeah, and then what was so interesting, especially at the beginning, is satoko. she was the serious one in the crying kiss and Mia Hamada seemed like a young and exuberant girl with her enthusiasm for sheet music and things like that, so again she sent the audience a totally different message than most of what you know, what was happening behind scene, yes.
But I think we have to look at the injuries, the trajectories of the skaters, will we see Rika compete this year? You know, I'm still waiting to see that, so I don't really know. I was thinking while I saw Shimada like you know we knew thanks to Mar and Honda's amazing skating skills in general, obviously Satoko likes Dreamy Dreamy Dreamy, but that comes from Miya Hamada or they just happened or Miya Hamada just had the Be careful to choose them. skaters with those inherent abilities because I would say with both

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but even more so with ikuro kushida some of them I wonder about some of these squirrel landings I wonder about them and some of them are artistic and some of them a little less and I wonder how much Miya Hamada encourages him and how much a Hamada just gave me. um eaters, do you notice that they seem to have stronger edge jumps than toe jumps?
In general, we used to obviously have Satico with the really nervous toe hops that almost like I missed the topic sometimes mao shamata dear sir, does she know how to maintain an advantage? She did that double ax spin triple spin sequence and then in the choreographic sequence she is in a crazy deep position almost the entire time, it was so impressive and different from what the other women here were doing, I have to say in terms of the rule changes adding the double axel at the end of things I enjoy a lot more than a triple double double or something like little doubles that stay put, yes, really.
For me there is something so satisfying about seeing someone like slander the triple step and the double act. I really enjoy it, but I don't enjoy the turns with the difficult exits. That's just a real failure for me. I understand the point. mistakes, I think you know, by doing that we saw that we see clumsy, unattractive things that must be complicated, but they all point to the same point, it's like the arbitrary rules in gymnastics where Jonathan actually came up with a rule. where they were, now you have to turn and stand on one leg before you run into your drop pass instead of two and you think why, what, yeah, but now you've created this uniformity, so now everyone stands on one leg. and it looks like an ostrich while they run or flamingos, what end do you know?
Yes, I totally agree, but I really like Ikora, I like that she has some spunk. Yes, she is tall just the way you like it. She could stretch a little more. Your favorite piece. of music to give to a young woman, Samson, except that not only was it Samson De

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, which is very adult content, but, in fact, it was the same crazy woman who made Gabby Daleman Carmen, it was as if she were a drunk Celine Dion or something like that. I like it, but I don't have half the talent trying to do mono, I just couldn't, I just couldn't handle it.
Gabby Gilman has also done Samson and De

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. Icon. I really like Ecuador, although she only has a little bit of courage that she endeared me to. to see her all the purple I was just entertained she had two triple triples on the top and I really liked it and in the aranois again it's whoever is working with them listens to the music because certain pieces of the music were answered with appropriate movement, like this We always know that about hamada skaters. I know that attention is paid to where the phrasing is in the piece. What's your opinion on giving cats to a young lady Jonathan?
I said it wasn't my favorite and people acted like I said everything I said isn't brilliant, it's okay just don't listen, I don't like musical cats, no no it would be weird if you did Dave it would be strange if you did. I can't quite imagine it, it's just not my thing, okay, I don't know whose sister it is and I was in high school, we saw it for the first time in London, we were almost salivating, we were laughing a lot because it just became in this. freaks by accident and now we all think we're supposed to watch it because it's cool and then you watch it and think this is absurd, I mean literally quality Halloween costumes, now what I'll say about this thing we used to do you have a great commercial from television where everyone was on uh, they're getting up on the manhole cover, come on, but you never look, are you a Kimmy Schmidt person?
No, no, okay, there was an episode where they realized that no one was actually into the cats. just audience volunteers who never left, it's like a fun little episode they do, but meanwhile, what Miso Quan has is incredible fossy-like flexibility in her shoulders and arm movement, so I have to say that even when she's opening up and being a cat, although I don't care what vehicle they choose to display her in, she has this incredible flexibility and movement in her shoulder joints that is outrageously impressive. I just think they could have used a different vehicle. Doing it now made her project more than some of her competitors, so the point is that he projects very well, she has guts like a big sister, she has great jumping technique and she is a competitor that I respect, yes, I did it .
I don't like the show, I like it, yes, maybe his leg on the camel not so much, but you know what it is, I wrote that on the free leg on the camel, yes, yes, but the choreography was a little masked, It seemed more like the character. that that leg was bent and maybe turned, if the goal of this piece was simply to be a springboard into the bigger picture of her career and the goal was to get her performative and most spectacular and dazzling body, I think it worked. You could have done with something better, but if the goal was to make it move and project, they achieved it.
I will say that I will always remember an ice dance team at Skate America in 2009. They did a cat show. They were paw prints on it. dressed up they were in orange and black and they scratched each other during the show I can't stop watching it and it's engraved in my memory as the biggest queen there are those moments when you're embarrassed that you like skating if you saw something with someone else and you'd say, oh, this is the sport you're obsessed with, these people do this to each other and you're like, well, I like it despite that, not because of it.
I mean, I remember them, I don't remember anything else in America, okay, yeah, they really stood out, they really did a moment with the cat ears, I mean, that was likeextra, it was pretty extra, you know she had a commitment and you know what, Jenny. she once skated in a lion king show where she was dressed as a cat on a halloween night, it wasn't an exhibition and still something i would like to embarrass her for, she's just like this skater, i'm just saying like you know, so maybe maybe everyone says oh it's cute, Jenny doesn't seem to think hers was cute, so many years later, yes, exactly, yes, it still hurts.
I mean, one of the things is that this girl is also better than pretty, she showed us that with her. modern dance skill and the flexibility in the movement of her upper body, especially she can do something cooler and it is a question of how much you want to go deeper into your junior quality, how much you want to go deeper into that age and how much you want to transcend it, transcend and do things that we have seen as a big spender and the house of the rising sun maybe too far, but there is an intermediate point between wearing cat ears and doing the house of the rising sun and I would feel like a junior, my goal would always be I'll be to show you that she really belonged with the older people and this inclined me and I leaned towards that youthful quality at the time, but we remember her, we do it, we do the boring thing and she wasn't cheesy, the music was cheesy and she moved pretty well .
Now, Mia Callan, she could have used some of that cat's energy. You know, she has two good quadriceps fingers. Last year we were watching her practice in a live barn because she was practicing with Melissa. We were really checking out what was going on there, it was interesting because they were running the consecutive quads at the beginning of the program over and over again, that's what works, but the components have been completely ignored. Remember what I told the mother. I told him to look. arthur is going to fire jeremy and massimo six months you pick them up arthur fired them they didn't seem to learn them these skating skills haven't been worked on and the reason you can tell there's something wrong with their training isn't just the fact that she can do two quad toe but she can't do a crossover with the down push because that's what you see in the forward crossover, it doesn't finish the second push, it's the fact that it's under the rotation of a triple loop and a triple s and it's not just not just like she's had in many competitions in her career, that she'll do the two quads and then the easy triples seem like they're just not practiced and it's not that she can't do them, it's the hyper fixation on getting them. for the points, but it's just that the overall picture of skating is not being complete and obviously this is a great talent, yes, that's what's interesting because, especially when we look at the Russian model that was established, it was clear maybe that she and her team, whatever that means, they saw that formula and they looked for that formula.
Opening her up on the ice, she kicks her legs, she plays the idiot, she's imitating a different school's training without maybe some of the assistants that that team also had, but it's not working. because the judges don't agree, they don't get seduced by quads, they know that a lack of skating skills is going to hold you back, and frankly, even so, the double toe she did had a gangly feel to it. quality as opposed to impressive quality, the quad he landed with after it looked like it was hurting on impact, is one of those and we've seen this come from some schools in Russia in particular, that the landings are almost as if they were They bend in half and I feel like all the bones take that impact and it makes it very unpleasant to watch because obviously this is a very talented young woman, but I don't see this working even though they seem to think they have the secret ingredient to do it and skating has been too naughty.
We have gone overboard to build a home like everyone else from that time. We started realizing last year that the era of music is when Amber Glenn uses your music. It's done, it's if a Tammy Gamble kid is wearing your music or wearing your dress, it was like five years ago, right, um, this piece of music, I think it's done, I think anything that Cicerone used, uh, the Happiness can't wait until it's done. This minimalist music is simple and does very well, yes, yes, to build a home. The wood boy, they just got beaten to death in the last mixed message, because if you go to people who just stand their ground and say. we're quad squads, cruella, go that route, then don't even pretend that you're going to give us anything else because that's when you play that music and we see that you don't respond, but it becomes even more obvious, if all you want to do is the quads , just do them.
I was skating a session last week and someone was trying to take a video for their junior test and they couldn't make it past the first jump pass, they have to. I've played circles 15 times, which is based on the experience of going in circles, oh my gosh, okay, oh no, yeah, wasn't that one of the books like Katarina Bitters the show they were filming? She had to redo triple cho like her 100 times, she finally got it. Like 11 at night or something, yeah, I once saw Nancy doing that for the Share show at Caesars for the Women in Atlantic City and Nancy was further along in her career, at that time she was going to do that double axis.
I mean she had some bad falls and she was skating to share. She did that opening pose in the chair. I mean, she did well. Her goal was to win. Well, that was impressive in her engagement. Well, she committed a cardinal sin. she missed a jump and hit the ice while she was doing it, which we enjoyed the arena, but that's not really uh, yeah, yeah, and she doesn't seem to have that natural performance. I think they're really going to have to work with her on that because I think it seems like tunnel vision, you know, the blinders are up on making those first two jump passes, yeah, and then again, I didn't lose it for those first two passes. jumping, I didn't even win it, I lost it to everyone else, yes.
So I'm wondering how that team is progressing because she's been stuck in this cycle for a couple of years. She now she was the exciting young woman that we had and that she could do those quads as we deal with what's worth it and what's not, but it's not, it's really not uplifting. This is when you have to change your focus, you have to look at who is on your team, who is leading it, what are you doing, that's wrong, it's time this was a wake up call. There are no Russians here and we are still out of this despite having technically landed. two quads, yes, but I will always remember when you had the sports psychologist where she said that if you don't change anything, nothing will change and it seems like they are sticking to a plan, but I think maybe the plan has to adapt as it goes, yeah, yeah it's a little late to change, yeah the sport moves fast you gotta do it and she could have made a move several years ago and it was funny because again you knew what was there but she was down like eight nine ten in the junior rings when clearly this is a talent that could be much higher yeah so yeah we'll see you know what we'll see what happens.
She's still one of the good talents in the US, so yeah. We are seeing that Brady is training with Benoit. She wants to win nationals this year. Gracie got Skate America. The season is getting a little better. It's strange. The task was very exciting to watch and well deserved. Yes. Well deserved. She did the work. delivered, she was rewarded. I really like merit-based choices like that, yeah, you know what this season is? It's getting better, I think we're going to have a lot of new stars and we're ready for them, yeah. welcome them, yes, what was your moment of the week?
Oh, I'm going to know, yeah, it would be easy to say, like Fear and Gibson, just the clothes, oh my God, I'm going to go with the Czech junior dance team because for me it was really exciting to see someone new, though I know it's not new, but for me to see it at this level and that kind of delivery here really excited me about a discipline that at the junior level I might have been a little distracted by. and it completely drew me in and I was very excited to see it. I'm going to have to go with Mao Shivana's jump landings and, oh, I mean the black third of

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and Gibson's free dance, just starting at the barrier, yeah, starting the barrier. he's like stretch it out yeah when he does that like a knee squad yeah okay love and then you as the audience know you're like get ready it's coming it's coming they're getting ready for something and then they just They deliver it, oh too. our good friend igor liu cannon, so as soon as there was an elvis movie we knew there was basler, we knew, okay, baslerman is like the gift to skate that follows us among the moulin rouge for more than 20 years, the great Gatsby, when he had Elvis, we were like oh my God, okay, he's coming, Igor's daughter is doing Elvis next year, he already saw it, he fell in love with childbirth, don't give that man a day off, he's well, it's too inspired, you know what another moment of my week was.
Seeing Kolyada skate again because we also saw him at the test gates, uh, the Nutcracker over and over again, that man can't do anything wrong for me, even when he doesn't have his entire arsenal there. I love to see him move. I love it. Maintains the advantage. They look sexy.

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