GREATEST PREMIER LEAGUE SIDE EVER? w/ @AdamMcKola, @theredmentv & @LeeJudgesTV | Last Fan Standing

Hello, welcome to Last Van Standing. My name is Flav and it's a new debate show where how passionate you are about football could give you the bragging rights to talk about what

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you want about the beautiful game. One thing, even though I decide who wins, imagine that. There were three rounds of debate and football questions and each guest will do his best to express his opinion in an attempt to secure points. Each round you can get 20 points and at the end of the third round we have our

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and that person. have a minute to give what

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full football opinion they want without any fuss about how biased the first round is, the best teams to ever win the

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now obviously we have Arsenal's Invincibles United winning team in 2008 and then the Klopp team from Two years ago let's go with you Paul first because that's the most recent one in memory and for me probably the best

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thanks mate yeah I feel like you'll be the only one probably taking that

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and no that it's hard. because I could make a very strong case here but I think it's very difficult for me to sit here and argue about the team that won the

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but then also won the European cup in 99 because of your Man United example and then won the FA cup .

Also, and that Invincibles team is unreal, they got a little trophy, did you know anyone has ever said that? They have an extra troll. What if we go undefeated? I don't think, I don't think any Arsenal fan has done it. I mentioned that, but they have some gold. Oh hell yeah, what's so good about that side? So Paul, I don't know what I look like to be fair, you know there are a lot of achievements and the problem that Liverpool have. their achievements in winning titles is that I thought well, I thought it was incredible, it ended the 30 year wait for us to have a league title so it meant more to me than any other league title, they will probably ever get 99 points that season and they also did it during the pandemic, which is something that will never really be something that can't really be ranked, you know, to where similar teams have overcome adversity to be able to just not play football for three months and then choose. go back again and change the rules a bit, although yeah, did it really count?

That's a good question: the invincibles and then you have the centurions and then you have the champions with asterisks too, yeah, sure, yeah, I mean, yeah to The Point, yeah, I mean, look at the united man, you know , look at some of the big area sides and you know they did an extra like four games a season to do it too so it's um no, for me it was it. is up there and in fact probably, to some extent, the team that finishes second is perhaps better and only to the extent that they get two points less than 97 points, but they don't win the European cup and it's one of those seasons crazy where you put some maybe, but the total points they got there was enough to win the league in almost any other season and also to go with the European cup, so for me it's an either/or of those. sides, you know that night that the 99 point team and won it in 2020 won it faster than any other team, we are going for a global pandemic group, yes there are more important things, one thing we can all agree on is that the invincible season is a It's a bit of a myth because how good that team really was because they drew 12 games and lost against Middlesbrough, intimate and Man United, yes, in the same season, I don't see it, I know the fans of the Arsenal, I know you have, you have. to push your rhetoric, your nonsense, read, but continue, why are we asking, listen, listen, I honestly looked at the date and I thought it was April Fool's Day when I was having this conversation, you know, I mean, how can you bring the yes of Liverpool and Manchester United could say a little about Chelsea and, perhaps, Manchester City when they got a hundred points, but we understand that we have an extra trophy for it.

Undefeated Undefeated. I can't believe it, no, no, you know, we did very well. I have this and they are undefeated, it has never been done before and will never be done again as they have been proven to be undefeated. It was so good that they gave us two trophies, you can't argue with that, you know? And when you continue about 12 games. We tie when you're playing a game and you take a knee with five minutes left or 10 minutes ago or 1-1 and you don't want to, you don't want to lose that momentum, you want to keep that trophy, you want to keep that unbeaten streak going, so it's a bit of a myth, I still playing between 10 and 12 games because at the end of the day you have to protect yourself by saying that if you are winning, it is there.

Black and white is not a myth, yes, but you can also argue that if you play to win those games, you might lose a game, it doesn't matter and we are still undefeated if we are going to win those games. or not, if you were good in the champions league in the fa cup you probably lose a game or two at the point, but we don't, we are unbeatable, they call us invincible for a reason, uh adam, what, yeah, it's been so long . Time should be united even still be part of this conversation well I mean if Arsenal invited them of course we were invited so yes we should be part of this conversation and I think two of our teams are the two best if you are watching.

Team 99 looking at team 08, I think that for me no one comes close because they won the European Cup in the same season. You have to do it, you could become invincible if maybe you leave the European cup and no. You don't just focus on the Premier League, you know? But when you have to compete on all these fronts and, in a way, we also got to the pitch, I think it was the quarter-finals and the FA Cups were quite competitive. There I also go for the 08 team because they had the defensive record with Van der Sarvilich in Rio, you couldn't, you couldn't be better than Rio and Bridge and what was, yes, brilliant Carrick and Ronaldo, I'm sure.

Fernando was basically in town, what a scene, we won't lose that because we are invincible, you know, that's all, like if you lost against United

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season, apart from in a game that meant something good, I would like to deserve that day, come on. Well, the points for this round are that Paul is 12, Adam is 12, and Lee is 14. That's not because I agree with what Lee was saying, it's just that he's the one who was most militant about his point. You're not really a Spurs fan today. he is this is just politically this is two extra points for someone said the b word and 40 times gold gold he is in the lead guys you have to retire him in the second round do you buy or sell do you agree or disagree with this statement Harry Kane? he's overrated and I'm going to start with you because I was watching you on another show and you said I think you called him a loser after everything he's done.

I am aware that Harry Kane is in the best forwards in the world in the last five to ten years or whatever his career has been, I think he has been incredible and on numerous occasions I have said that I want him at Man United, but there is something about him that tells me he's a loser. The mere fact that he is still at the Spurs to me tells me that he is a loser. Any one of them allows him to leave. He wants any other player to leave that club. Him three years ago. Any other player doesn't have his stupid little brother walking around talking. weddings on him and get a suitable agent to get him out of the club I just think he has a loser's mentality three finals he hasn't done anything he hasn't appeared like for me if that's what we're saying He wins one of those finals for his team and doesn't He's been playing with everyone.

It continues as if the Spurs have had shitty teams over the years. Spurs have been quality when you look at some of the players they've had. Parchedino was Well, he should have won a trophy and he should have led that team to a trophy, so I'm afraid this is my fear. Yes, the city goes for it in the summer. They offer 70 million from United. Oh, the Spurs won't have that. Here there is double. Harry Kane comes, he does well, but he never wins a trophy. What will happen is you're predicting this future where you hire someone from United for 140 million and they don't win a trophy.

See if he's not going to win a trophy. It's gonna be I feel like you're a loser so you think I think I say that to say he's an amazing player but something about maybe maybe that doesn't mean he's overrated because I think people put him there. true like i think people would moderate the same breath you like zlatan says that and they are winners like they are real winners they get their teams it's not a huge number although to be fair oh yeah it's not a bad thing Of course it's okay, okay, he's great, he's a winner, he played in a final, he won it for us, you know what I mean, he turned up and won the final four, it was a league cup, but Harry Kane turned up.

Listen to legal endings. great trophy, I think we can all agree that yes, let's move on, I would die for them right now, Paul, what would you do? Because obviously your relationship with Cain is a way of irritating the Liverpool support in certain games or that's my under

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where he may have exaggerated definite penalties but he may have exaggerated the jump too much, does that take anything away from the great player that he is? um yeah no no I don't know I think the idea that it's overrated isn't very like uh I think that exists in WhatsApp groups in London as something you know I mean I think oh everyone , you know you have those Roth records, all your friends and they all support different teams and Harry Kane ends up.

He's the butt of the joke because he plays for space, which is pretty brilliant, but he actually likes the idea that he's overrated. It's nonsense. He scores like 30, 30 goals a season more or less. I think once or twice he has gone down slightly. 28 goals in eight seasons will be eight in these eight eight seasons in this season if he scores if he scores dating everything comes, which is difficult, but you might like Alan Shearer, the goal third of that kingdom scored greatness, there are guys. who we would talk about unequivocally as the best player to ever play in the major league, who didn't do that like terry did with me, I don't think he's even close to doing that, he's one of the best players to ever play in the league, so I know he's not he is overrated because he is a centre-forward and in fact he has not only added assists to his game but he has adapted his game to be a more complete and complete modern striker, you know the fact that he could probably play for Liverpool. team or cities team now was I don't think two two three years ago I don't think you had Adam because I don't think he's done enough in a general sense, I'm allowed to say that because he's a big idiot too um and yeah, yeah , and he did, he absolutely should have been kicked out um, I can't deny his ability but I can't deny his ability, but do you think he has a duty to show up if he's as good as everyone says?

Does a duke have to improve his great game for the club in the country? Because I'm funny, where was he? There's a decent point that if he does he'll end up breaking Alan Shearer's record in in In an era where Viol is throwing away half his goals, he'll still break that record, so yeah, he doesn't win anything, that's almost an achievement bigger than winning the league because it's almost impossible to achieve, I think Harry Kane, no one will ever do it. break harry kane's record, but i have to give lee a chance here because if there isn't a man who loves harry kane more than he judges, i would be absolutely shocked if he said you'd have him in your arsenal. world where you wouldn't take him there listen we had him in the arsenal like you know so come on he was eight years old he had eight years more trophies than harry kane and that says something like you know but I'm going to agree. with the boys I think the reason I hate harry kane and I'll be honest is because he's a good player if he was if he wasn't good we'll name me goals I think he's got it um I think he's got He also improved his game with his assists but There is little doubt about him and that is fine in the Euro Cup, in the Euro Cup, or in the World Cup, they should have played.

I think it was the World Cup. he should have played in sterling we pass and his greedy side means he wants to be the glory man all the time it ends we are going to get knocked out I think I think this season is his form and the goals have gone down because his heart doesn't he's as much at Tottenham as he was before, but I don't think you can deny what you said there, a great goalscorer better than that and I think I want you to have that conversation by no means. not even remotely in Tyrion Reef's class but that's crazy because it is but I don't know no no no no no no no yes yes um no no no no no no no no has no has not caught his toes nodding with Yo, he doesn't have that, sorry, sorry bro, I'll be one of those guys who's argued against Tyrion my whole life in the schoolyard, yeah, but listen, Thierry Armory puts the fear of God in everyone going to Harry Kane, yes, but it is about.

To face you in a final I don't think you're that afraid. Do you know what you don't show up? Jeremy didn't do it in the finals, no, he never scored in a final but his team won most of them, yes. That's what he does, why am I defending Cherry Armory? And he has a gold trophy. I don't know, so the points for the second round. Paul has 16 pointsin this. Adam has eight and Lee has six very generous nonsense said in that round. I think we all agree that, there. There was no bias towards him, there was no advantage to him, he was just giving a good honest opinion, he even said that he doesn't like the kind of theatrics he does, but he was still honest with it, you two were just that.

It was terrible, can we agree? Look, I think the judge is nervous. He's clearly very nervous. I hardly think we need a new judge. We can all agree with him, at least we can't. Eric Cantona won the league every time he was around. and they suspended him, guess what we did with the league, that's because he's a winner, he's not a loser, harry kane will be remembered as the best striker in

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league history, let's leave him there in the third round, Liverpool can't reach Manchester City in the Premier. The league title race is over, gentlemen.

I want to start with you, Paul, because no, I don't believe it, and I don't think you believe it either. No, because I mean, look, I didn't really believe it. it ended when we were like 15 points behind, that's because I'm a deluded idiot mainly, but when you break it down there was a point in the weekend where it was three points in level games played, we all got ready to look at Man United you know , the glorious man united against his small town rivals um and then they completely crumbled into dust in front of our eyes um yeah look, Manchester City will need to be stopped because they are not real, they are absolutely unreal and To be fair, They should be given how they have been building everything they have going for them, but if anyone can do it it's Liverpool.

I'm not going to plan. You know, the victory parades. I wouldn't be you. I know I'm not going to throw money away or anything, but if I can't believe it's possible when you know, let's face it against the only team I've done a real Man City with in recent years, then what's up? the point really what is the point of us being here as a measurable group? I mean, you'd say it would be more likely that Liverpool could catch Manchester City than Tottenham would do the double over them in the season that Nuno Espio Santo beat the Beat managed to beat them.

Kante, when we had lost four out of five, managed to beat them too. Me and Palace also beat them two to nil, so I think they can be caught and I think Liverpool can catch them. This is why the thing about City is that you can't predict where the defeats will come and that's a good and bad thing because you watch their games and think: "Oh, this would be complicated, oh no, it's not, It's absolutely fine." They have a way of doing it, they win every game and you think this might be the one that breaks them and then they'll lose a random football game and that's a really hard way to live because it would be nice.

If they just followed obvious trends, if you do well, this will be the game they fall into, with all your understanding of football it will make you feel better about life, but no, they will make you sweat, so yeah, if only someone could beat them. That would be absolutely brilliant, Adam, this must be the worst case scenario for you because obviously Liverpool and City, I know you, no, you consider Liverpool to be a more important rival than City, because I understand the reasoning, but what, what what? Can you catch the city based on what you saw yesterday?

According to what they saw yesterday. I mean, they didn't have to do much to get it. We were so bad, but I think I personally think City won the league. I had to choose between the two evils. I would like City to win the league and yesterday I felt that this scenario was going to happen. We were going to lose to Sorry. We were going to beat City and then lose to Liverpool. Obviously, the Liverpool game has moved on now. and we wrapped the title for them as a gift, um, and when we lost that game, the only benefit was oh, maybe that means Liverpool won't win the league, which shows where we are in a minute, how bad things are. , but that's how I felt after that game, so I'm starting to feel like they're cities, but when you look at the fact that it's three points, Liverpool have to play them at the Etihad.

If any team can go there and beat them it's probably Liverpool at the moment and they seem to have it with each other so I think it's still possible and might even get a little closer at some point but I think eventually City will win the league because of how relentless they are and if I just know that the Liverpool teams have improved this year, and when you look at the players coming off the bench to have an impact, I think if you look at the cities team, I think they are more capable of deal with them, you know the riggers. of the champions league and all the competitions um and yes I think City will eventually win um okay and lee you don't have a dog in the fight but what's your opinion?

Well I think we have a bit of a dog in the fight because the end of the Liverpool game the end of the game he will be next week in the emirates so I think he will say Arsenal will get a late title no no we won't , just not this year, not this year, but listen, I think if Liverpool can win that game, I think against Arsenal and even the old Arsenal card, could they have then they have a clear chance because I think the only thing What do I think about Manor City? What may perhaps disappoint them is that they are not ruthless enough in front of goal.

I felt like even yesterday I thought yesterday they missed some opportunities again to really go five six seven against Man United. That's it, but, and then you know. and then they weren't ruthless enough against soton and look what happened, so why don't they have that uh, should i say, harry kane striker? They're always likely to be, you know, there could be a little flaw in their Little Track and Liverpool could be ruthless, but I think that comes down to the Emirates. If they get to the Emirates and Arsenal win, which I'm predicting they will, then I think it will be Manchester City style.

This is ours. Exaggeration, Arsenal fans think they decide the title, we will decide where it goes, actually we would prefer Liverpool to win the league now. For two reasons, I think some somehow in the last 24 months, Manchester City fans have become some of the most unbearable in the world. in the first division and on top of that, I don't like their football, I don't like it, I think this possession-based, high-pressure, possession-based football is quite boring to watch and I prefer the rock and roll type . from Liverpool, I don't know if that's a bold statement or not, gentlemen, that's how I feel.

Oh, I'm with you on that. I can't believe I agree with a Spurs fan. I'm kinda with you on this. Listen, I think Liverpool, uh, I don't really like Liverpool, their fans are just as intolerant, you know, I mean unbelievable, but they are a real football club, they are a club that hasn't bought things, so That's me. I'm quite, I opened up to Liverpool by winning it because I like the way they run clubs, it's probably a club. I would like to state for the record that Arsenal fans are the worst, not each other. Yes, yes, yes, I think that's it.

Why are we going? That's another conversation, but there's no one more insufferable than Spurs fans. We have nothing to be bearable about. We haven't won anything. I'll see if you go around the country. The Spurs have to be the most hated fans. No. arsenal, oh I know, no one even thinks that spare fans exist, to be completely honest, necessarily unnecessary ones, so the points for that round are that paul gets 14, adam gets 10 and lee gets 12 and so What I liked about that, Paul, is that it's just you. Still, you still come to the league, most people, all the rhetoric and all the narrative after Manchester City beat Manchester United was that no one can live with this team, where we have seen evidence time and time again of that teams can live with Manchester City. and Liverpool play the type of football I want to see and for that reason that's why you're getting the points and you're the last fan standing this week.

Congratulations, you can beat them anyway. Misfortune. Dishonor. I'll go over them. Misfortune. There will be many more opportunities for you too, I mean, it doesn't help when the judge gets involved in the debates. The last fan standing this week is Paul Magen. Congratulations, you have one minute. The bragging rights are all yours right now. I'm going to follow up a bit with something Flab said because Flab and Spares fans have finally peeked behind the mantle of Manchester City and don't like what they see and finally another fan base that sees what we see in that city crazy. it's just horrible and what really bothers me is that I don't expect everyone to like Liverpool, that's not the case, in fact I like it that way, I prefer a bit of needle, you know, football, ban football culture and all that kind of stuff. things, but I hate the fact that basically Manchester City is a big shrug for everyone, a big shrug people are happy that City win the league and they are happy that they win the European cup and all the national cups because they hate other teams. the more they hate Man United the more they hate Chelsea the more they hate Liverpool the more and it's easier in their lives for City to win and I can't stand I really wish more people could understand the fact that the city is the way I have it. a really strange honorable fanbase they are a horrible football club run by horrible people and they want to ruin football and right now Liverpool are the finger on the damn city ruining football please can you all wake up with that cute one, that's all?

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