The 1950s Are Calling, They Want Their Argument Back | The Atheist Experience 26.18

let's talk to jay, okay jay, hi jay, you're in the

atheist

experience

, what would you like to talk about? I just

want

to make a quick statement, you guys sound like your typical angry

atheist

, you know, hey, we're just having a conversation. We were talking to another atheist, we were actually angry about what we were discussing. Do you have any questions or anything you would like to discuss? Are you

calling

just to put us down? I have a question. kind of the opposite of them, although as crazy as people with mental illnesses and stuff are, you know, Demon Ham, right, oh, you're not going to like my tone either, so, jay, so no, we're not mentally ill.

Weren't you considered mentally ill? Correct. I can't hear what you're cutting me. I don't know if it's just me, Matt. Can you hear it? I think he said we were mentally ill. I'm sorry. you say we were before this, you know, the new age, I guess you could say, that's what it was, atheist and homosexual, which version of the DSM and which version of the DSM was an atheist mental illness and which ones were. The criterion is: do you disagree with me? She is asking a question: It is too difficult to understand and what version of the DSM was atheism considered a mental illness and what were the criteria that had to be met.

Yes, I'm not. Here to talk about I mean, you got me there just like I'll put you in the Bible, you know what I mean, so I mean, oh, okay, okay, so you can't

back

up your claim, you're just saying that You

want

to make a claim that you can't support and you think you'll do better when it comes to the Bible, why should anyone care what the Bible says? I'm pretty. I think it's common sense that in the '50s and '60s before uh, you know, that's what was considered, okay, I'm sorry, jay, I'm sorry, I'm sorry for your confusion, jay, but the facts don't care.

No matter what you think is common sense, you can make the case with facts. or not, but if you're going to say it's your opinion, then in the '50s it was determined that atheism was a mental illness, which by the way, it's irrelevant whether it is or not, which is why shannon was asking you what version of the dsm and what were the correct criteria and what were the criteria, because the criteria are created, that is the important part, so would you like to move on to educating us in the Bible or are we just going to leave this whole thing where you are going to make statements that you can't

back

up well.

I can ask you one more question. Do you think you hate God? Do you think that's a reason for you not to believe in God and not see that we don't come from the monkey? No I do not. No I don't hate, I don't hate God and we are still monkeys, we also come from monkeys, my disbelief in the gods, I was a yes, I was a fundamentalist Southern Baptist Christian who was studying with the intention of becoming a preacher. I didn't start hating God and then stop believing. I began to disbelieve and then discovered that the character of God and the things in the Bible are grossly immoral and not worthy of belief or respect.

This is serious. Was it before? Did you become gay or was it Africa I'm not gay but even if I was I wouldn't care and I was born queer so yes it was, it would have been later because that happened when I was born Was I born this way? Do you have any serious questions or are you just trying to insult a homosexual to see if you can surprise us? We're saying I'm not trying to insult you. This is asking you a question. no sir it's full of because you asked you asked about it I stopped believing it was before after I was gay and I'm not gay so clearly you're not being serious which means I'm just going to keep trolling you for as long as you stay on the line you had a question for me that was good and that wasn't going to insult me ​​I'm curious to know what the question is, let's see if I mean if things are going to attack you how do I know what's going to insult you?

What's not going to attack you? I mean, you clearly couldn't find what would actually insult me, but why the hell would you accuse me of being gay when I'm not? Oh, I just thought I heard it. that you know I'm bringing you pictures of you didn't know I'm just not sorry your phone is breaking your phone is legitimately your phone is breaking and we didn't hear that so why would you call? I'm gay, I just thought you were, I thought you said you were before in the program, I apologize, well, it's not an apology, it wouldn't bother me, I'd be very happy to be gay, but what you've shown is that you're not.

No. I know who you're talking to and then you ask questions like, for example, the question you asked: Did I stop believing before I was gay? Let's assume for a second that I was gay and that I stopped believing before I was gay. Would that make any difference? No, let's say I'm gay and I stopped believing after I found out I was gay. Would that make any difference? No, then your question is irrelevant, it was just a way of trying to sensationalize a topic and in fact you were wrong as you were. about atheism in the dsm, so what are you really going to teach us?

Because if you're ready to follow the Bible, I'm ready, brother, bring it on. There are not many homosexuals who believe in the Bible, yes. I mean, because

they

are, oh, there's Jay, is there any topic that you actually know anything about that's objectively accurate because you're at zero so far? Yeah, I know we don't come from monkeys and I know that uh, you don't know what. uh we come from right you are wrong you are wrong what is the origin of life what is what is the origin of life the origin of life is irrelevant whether we or not the origin of life is irrelevant and listen to me jay I am answering your question and then you won't be as ignorant as you were before I feel like we're talking to an evangelical Christian meme generator the origin of life the issue of abiogenesis is separate from evolution which is what happens after there is life and so it doesn't matter how life began, it is an observable and verifiable fact that speciation occurs and that we share DNA and common ancestry with all other living beings and that we share close ancestry with other primates.

These are established facts. What am I then? Which was where? Where are

they

? Give me proof of which one it is. Yes, I just asked you. Well, give me the virus test. Are you talking about evolution like human evolution? Endogenous retroviruses as Shannon says, but also chromosomes. Retroviruses are always retroviruses. They have never done it. has turned into any other fish or monkey or something, oh my God, you are incredibly stupid about science and we are sitting here and we have a person who is trying to answer you with a scientific question and a scientific answer and another person.

Who is addressing the fact that, for example, the Catholic church accepts evolution? There are many Christians who accept evolution. At the Dover trial there was a Christian who argued in favor of chromosome 2 fusion by demonstrating common ancestry with other primates. I'm sorry you did it. I didn't bother looking into this, but at the end of the day, even if you were right and evolution by natural selection didn't happen, that doesn't mean we're in any way closer to the god you think is reasonable or true, so what? Are you going to speak at schools next? Well, how about this?

That's your Nebraska man was fake, your leaning down man was fake, your Java wasn't fake, they were all fake and you know no they weren't. Sir, not all of them were fake, but the fact that there were fakes, would you let me finish? How did we discover that the constructed man was false? Was it religion or science that did that? It was good. Creation scientists know what they are doing. We're talking about let's find someone else, it wasn't creationist, it was science, not religion, that showed the problems with defects, anyway, okay haha, have a beautiful day, we'll talk to you later, enjoy your Sunday , goodbye, we proved it was a fraud. in the scientific community by doing better science, not by making religion better, I'm a little surprised that he thought that when I said in dodge, okay, okay, I'm going to move on, I'm just going to let that strain and I'm evidently gay and I don't know when it happened but no, I'm the gay one, it's so strong, I mean, it's not like I wouldn't mind being gay, huh.

It would be disappointing if I was gay because you know, then I'd have to tell my girlfriend that I'm gay, but yeah, I'm not okay, okay, next person who calls.