Ed Calderon: Combating Mexican Drug Cartels - Danger Close with Jack Carr

hide illegal activities, hide in a high value neighborhood. in Tijuana because the neighbors will always complain or be suspicious of everyone there because if that's the cheapest security system you can have, just settle in a high value neighborhood in Tijuana and the neighbors will basically take care of you. Anything that's out of place, they'll call it out, so we have to figure it out, so we looked at the lighter colored people in our groups, including myself, and basically went around that neighborhood to try to rent an apartment, uh, myself . someone from San Diego, basically, that's again a great language skill, an effort, a lot of our guys had language skills of that nature for the same reason, so rent a property and basically normalize yourself in that area so that you become part from Baseline, which is a big part.

I guess it's normalized for us, but it's very tempting to go after something you see as an opportunity, yes, but it's also very effective to wait and see if one guy hooks up with another and have all that information before attacking. that bee hive, you know, normalize things on the property and behaviors like, you know, we found out that they had a house that had a lot of security there, so we started putting a lot of pigeon and bird food in certain places that With that , you know, we started setting these things off on purpose with a bag of cats in certain parts of the property just to find out these guys' reactions to you and eventually we normalized the fact that at night these cats will come into the back place and They will turn the lights on and off.

And people would wake up, turn things off and go back to bed, so we created an opportunity for ourselves, yes, many, eventually, .22 caliber pistols with silencers or ball bearings in the lights of the street, uh, during the day, you know, just to give you a little dark spot. and um multiple false reports of other situations that happened around the area while we hit was something we would do sometimes yeah um and again the multiple reports of hitting a house uh multiple reports around the area had to be made to the local authorities because they would also be involved in some of this stuff, um and also the fact that how we hacked we were all in civilian clothes and we acted and we just spoke non-cop slang because that's a big part of camouflage as well. each camouflage is interesting so you learn to fake it I guess so, what's the highest ranking guy you chased?

Was there one that comes to mind? He was the highest ranking member, let's say, member of the cartel or something like that. he had a security around him that was pretty solid or different from other people that you beat up or that were okay, one stands out in your mind uh, I mean, I can't speak for any of the ones that I chased, uh, but uh, I mean. There's a lot of things, I mean, anybody at that time, it was basically lieutenants that we were going to go after, uh, yeah, so the people that came in basically set up cells for certain criminal organizations that sometimes had 80 to 200 people, so They could get 200 people with AK in one night if they wanted so this level of people is the type of people we go after and I mean some of them were big names and I don't want to talk about any of them uh well all that I know it's a lot of Now they're dead and gone, but still, yeah, it's still kind of scary to talk about, but the amount of work we did in that area knocked that city off the list, you know, the number one city one more interested in our planet and did not appear.

After a few years of work that we did there, I specifically believe in the phenomenon of the types of people who would come to town and work, and it's not someone I've ever worked against, but I'll do it. just tells the story of these guys uh we got to see the Zetas in Baja and the Zetas are a pretty interesting group and I know there's a lot of movies and fiction about them. In fact, I met some of them uh and and They were trained by people who were not part of the unit they came from, so the Special Forces now in Mexico are different, very different.

I got to train with the guys from the Gophers group, a lot of these guys really got the quilling experience. an uprising in the jungles of Japan with groups of people with so much experience, the selection back then was different, there was a reason why there weren't many, many of them had degrees, engineering degrees, language skills, some of them were to school America type level stuff and there are some photos of them on Bragg, for example, yeah, I was going to say School of the Americas listening, uh, you can, uh, Google, yeah, it's not a school that allows you to, uh , I know it is not a school of hearts and minds.

All I'm going to say is that these people at this level were hired by the head of the golf cartel, Cardenas, to basically be his bodyguard team and in Mexico, you do have a bodyguard team from time to time. and then you'll send them off to do something else, you know, and they realized they were incredible performers. I mean, they're going to intimidate these guys and they're going to do it in a very organized, specialized, ultra-militaristic way, yeah, they figured that out. they can basically start their own

cartels

and that's what they did and like the Special Forces they basically took the whole aspect of uh let's expand our capabilities by training other people so they were very good at that recruiting and training other people and and and uh.

A group of them at some point headed to Tijuana and participated in a Prison Break as a team wow style level Prison Break, yes they dressed in medical clothing and took advantage of the regular pick up of a detainee inside the Tijuana prison. He had liver sirosis, I think or maybe it was a kidney failure situation, I'm not too sure, but they basically took advantage of the fact that he had regular doctor's appointments, picked him up and arrived in an ambulance. They had people there spending the night with precision rifles already set up, so when the janitor stood out and the tower guard was there ready, they turned them all on and there they were and they had already infiltrated the prison with weapons, so They were shooting in their path. outside the prison, wow, while they were rescuing them inside, the whole Prison Break took about two or three minutes and all these guys had their way with the people who were there to get out basically and no one responded because they spread the word.

Yeah, and it was to watch it, basically, go there and watch it afterwards and watch the three-round flurry. The precision groupings and how they hit everything they shot was pretty interesting and just the sophistication and It was pretty mind-blowing to see, yeah, so it seems like most of this time in these 12 years that you're doing, the training that you're getting seems as on-the-job training until later, when you get promoted. and get more formal training, but all this time just to stay alive or you look like a natural student and you're learning, you're observing, you're making it part of your experience. now it's part of what you do now and what you teach now what you talk about now um but uh while you're going through all this and you're hitting these houses and arresting these people and doing these things um now you're essentially a student of crime. organized a particular uh student at a particular regional level but there are commonalities around the world with some of these things, but when did you start to notice or did you know beforehand a connection with the occult or the the or the maybe the religious side of it, uh, so, I mean, growing up, you know, it's all, it's everywhere, uh, my family specifically were all Guadalupe growing up, but the little Baños are basically acolytes of the Guadalupe version and if they you look well, a little deeper, basically they are resistances of the Aztec empire that said we were going to convert, but I don't know on our own terms, you know, that's what the Guadalupans are in a way, uh, if you look at the version of Guadalupe .

What she really is is an Aztec fertility goddess who was adopted by Catholics, which is exactly what Catholics do and have been doing around the world for centuries. There were skeletons around family alters when I was a kid and, to a large extent, Santa. Death was also there growing up, it was something I grew up with culturally, then when I got into the unit I found out that most of the guys I was working with were all Santas rather than practitioners, you know, that's what it was. as part of the whole culture that we had something in, at least in the small unit that I was a part of, it was used a lot as an aspect of psychological warfare, I guess, or they would have it as a drive.

Something type and it was very similar to a unit, so Santa Marta was very much a facial practice between the members of the group and also the criminal offenders. We would raid houses and find these giant statues of dead Santa and rooms, sometimes with photos of her commando. uh structure at the bottom of them with some kind of witchcraft applied to them, yeah, uh, Mexico was a very spiritual place, it's one of the most Catholic countries in the world and the amount of influx of occult practice comes from all kinds . of places in Mexico has always been like a major factor, although some of the darkest things you see are in Santa Marta, which is easy, it's very easy to point out as a demonic and evil faith practice, but realistically when you look at it, it's a veneration of life and death it's a goddess of duality that's what it is um the first exposure most people had to Santa Muerte was through Breaking Bad um that's the first time Most people saw a statue of death, so the specific evil of the sign probably comes from the first Exposition you came to Santa Marta as a culture, but realistically it is one of the most benign.

I don't really see much of uh there's an absolute revulsion towards blood sacrifice or human sacrifice in any of that because It's again, it's a life and death that Duality Spirit uh practices and again I grew up on it so I wouldn't know. . It's been deformed and used in ways after you know, um, the first public form of Santa Marta was after the year. 2000. Before that, everyone worshiped it or worshiped it in their homes, you know, it was something they would talk about, it was a middle finger to the church for some, yeah, that's what it was and uh, but then you progress. over time and you get to the '90s when the cartel started to formalize and solidify and you get the Narco phenomena, the satanic narcos, the satanist

cartels

, the narcos, the satanist narcos, um, I don't remember their name right now.

A famous case comes to mind of a Mexican-American individual who had exposure to Afro-Caribbean Palo, which is basically a form of folk magic practice that comes from Africa but was established in the Caribbean. uh, it uses a lot of blood sacrifices, body parts, bones and things like that to create these things called gangas, which are basically vessels that they use to capture a spirit, that's what they called them sometime in the '90s, uh, a very occultist acquaintance. He basically he started to get famous for creating some of these in bargains for some cartel forces and a lot of these cartel groups became really successful and rich afterwards, so there was a belief in it that started like it really allowed the whole culture .

I think he killed the He kidnapped and murdered an American and used his brain on the ninganda that got him in a lot of trouble and he's having a shootout with the authorities in Mexico, but I think it's the first time we're starting to get a glimpse of some of these . uh cross pollination of cartels that realize the power of true belief or the power of some of these occult practices and I mean, a witch told me this, a Mexican uh Ranch witch as we call them uh black magic in essence, it's just a form of weaponized psychology, the curse doesn't work if you don't know it and I think a lot of these organizations are starting to realize this and are starting to adopt some of these practices as a form of psychological warfare.

You know, we see the Knight Templar. the cartel guys basically made a saint out of his head, a leader who was supposedly murdered in a car by government forces and then turned up alive, so that's his miracle and he was finally murdered for real, but there are still sites that claim it. They worship like a Saint, there are pictures of them, you know, in cross attire, with a sword and things like that, and people look at their graves, so as a saint, I'm pretty sure that when El Chapo Guzmán dies in custody in some time in the future. if you don't let him go because I know that the Mexican government is trying to negotiate for release um I'm sure that when he dies they will name him a saint, that's it, there are already statues of him that are sold as statues of saints in Sinaloa, so you and Of course, the whole proliferation of some of these Afro-Caribbean spiritual practices that have been used and corrupted by some of these organizations has led to videos of people being seen eating human hearts or having new ones.Initiates in a group engage in cannibalism as a sign of fidelity and virility.

Uh, I think that's where the occult aspects live in this conflict. I have talked to many people about the fact of everything. terrorist definition aspect of this, including some members of Congress, they want to find out if these organizations meet what you would consider the definition of a terrorist organization and I think the only thing Americans have to equate to it If we are Islamic, we motivate terrorists , then there are many people who argue that these criminal forces in Mexico do not meet that definition due to religious or other aspects. I think they not only meet that definition, but they add some other elements to that definition that you create. that Americans should really be taken into consideration, if anything, are an evolution of that threat that uh Islamic motivated terrorist organizations posed to the United States.

I mean, this is an organization that outnumbers any terrorist organization you've probably ever faced as the number one country, they're transnational, they're already in the US, so not just if a terrorist organization, it will be a domestic terrorist organization and also a foreign terrorist. organization is both, it's not like Al Qaeda that is based somewhere, this is an organization that has ties and footholds in places like Chicago, Los Angeles, Oklahoma, Texas, Arizona, around New York, so It's not going to be, it's not going to be some foreigner. Enemy, you know, it's an interesting thing that they've tried to use occultism around this definition.

Yes it has something to do with that, but we should not make the mistake of demonizing an entire group of people in Mexico who are very desperate who find solace in the faith practices that they have inherited, just as I would not go to a meeting and would say something about people dancing and venerating aspects of their spirituality. I probably wouldn't have the courage to go to someone who has a statue of Saint Martha in their house and say something about it because it is a practice of faith that they have, they don't hurt anyone, but There are elements that are used. by certain organizations that arise and are derived from some of these are called practices, yes, they are largely being used as weapons, that's the best way to put it, yes, well, I was going to ask you about the terrorist organization designation, um , and what did you think about that and what is the long-term threat from cartels, whether organized or disorganized, both south of our border and then with those tentacles into the United States and those different cartels or organized crime syndicates? do they have final states or are they?

I'm just trying to grab power, money and influence, do you have an End State? I was going to ask you what you thought about designating them as terrorist organizations, I mean, number one, I'm a kid from Tijuana, you know, I grew up. in this and that war that has not been declared, basically, this unnamed war, people call it the war on

drug

s and things like that in Mexico it is not recognized as a war, so, in my opinion, it comes directly not only from having been born there. Mexican by birth, I have friends of mine, I have family there, so I have a great interest in it, but I am not a politician and I have not been politicized in any way, you know, if people want to know about politics, uh.

I like to smoke a joint I'd like to

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y guns um I'm okay with people being uh you know, I'm okay with people being gay and I just like the government to leave me alone if they can, you know? that's my policy just before we get into this aspect of the definition, um, the United States has been fighting a war with China. I've been announcing it to the majority of the public, but it's been evident for a while to people like me who have actually witnessed the amount of fentanyl being pumped into Mexico through their specific side ports, where the cartel that had access to those ports specifics grew during Kobit, which is quite funny and also alarming for the new generation cartel, as I listened, the cartel was smuggling fentanyl from the US to Mexico to load their

drug

s and then ship them back, that should tell you something to the American population.

Chinese banking apps are being used to move money for US cartels to get from Canada to Mexico, so their Chinese banking apparatus has been used. and armed against the interests of the United States and when it comes to this type of threat for a while now, the fentanyl precursors that produce mathematical precursors that are used for many other drugs all come from China, there is no Chinese Triad mafia let him do this. covert without the Chinese state knowing, number one, nothing leaves China without China knowing and they have been going to great lengths to pump a ton of fentanyl into their country for years, so that should be a factor. where people take into consideration when declaring their proxy groups, and I think at least one of them has all the telltale signs of being a sword proxy group, you know, if someone would like to do the math and figure out how many of those.

Chinese narenkos are appearing in some places in Mexico and in what hands they are appearing. I think the math will match some of the things I'm saying, yeah, I think there's a lot of effort being made and Mexico is basically an example, it's basically our current modern version of Vietnam, where two foreign powers are basically fighting in one country. foreign. Mexico is an example of that, the current leading political candidate for the newly introduced presidency. his comment poster plan do you want to hear about it yeah and I want to know what you think of it yeah sure sure it's amazing it's like it probably belongs in a book uh so just take notes on this he revealed a plan called plan Angel land for Mexico and then think as I describe it, you know what I mean, it's an AI-run national database with facial recognition, biometrics, and social credit aspects that come from Mexico's allies around the world and, as he says This in his presentation, a big giant image of Xi Jinping floats at one end and a giant image of Putin floats at the other, and at the end there is an image of Joe Biden walking lost somewhere in my mind that sounds like the Mexican government was about to create a giant surveillance state that runs on Chinese software in Mexico maybe I'm wrong about that maybe I'm just paranoid uh but again this aspect of Mexico has a giant uh has all the resources that the United States will need to power itself in the next 50 years, um, I know China knows about this, you know, 70 of all mine, lithium is apparently somewhere in the Sonora region, so I think that's an important aspect of why that some of these criminal organizations are being promoted. and or pushed or burst I mean it makes sense uh if people want to redo the math in this look at the amount of violence that broke out in the place like Sonora Sonora is not really a cartel uh route Rich territory, yeah, against what they are fighting? because as far as that territory is concerned, they are fighting for control of possible mining operations there or influence in the region.

The Mormon massacre occurred in this same area where a large amount of this minimal lithium was discovered, so people should be doing the math. About that, I assume you are in the country where the currency has been stable for about two years, it is actually quite strong, it is one of the most stable currencies on the planet right now and the reason is that it is about of becoming the next China, I think, and investors are not, no, about this. Mexico is the next China. Now, politically, is it the next China? I don't know, but it will become a similar manufacturing center, if it does things right, it will become the Manufacturing Club of the next 50 years and US foreign policy in Mexico has been horrible.

We just discovered that at least three former Mexican presidents were on the CIA payroll, for example, with the documents. being declassified and I suspect that as we move forward, most of the presidents in the 80s will also be revealed as CIA funded presidents of Mexico, to the extent that this is a Mexico problem due to their corruption and to the extent that the Mexican people are simply not willing to do what the United States needs to do to get the Americans and I include myself, because I pay taxes here now and this is not part of this experiment, we all need to get our heads out of our asses and realize that this is a regional problem, it is no longer a problem of Mexico or the United States, it is a regional problem and we are very responsible for a large part of it.

Yes, they have the responsibility, but we are also responsible to a large extent. like the designation that they are terrorists, well you know you have a foreign entity that is not friendly to US interests and/or US policy abroad that has a lot to do with Mexico and that is not a theory that is not something possible, that is very true, so anyone who wants to see it that is how it is. You have two giant cartels basically working and competing for power in Mexico. They are using politics to basically solidify their positions in the country. country that's why we have one of the highest numbers of political murders on the planet in Mexico and also murders of journalists on the planet in Mexico is one of the most

danger

ous places, if not the most

danger

ous, to run for office or to being able to be a reporter, for example, and it is because these cartels are becoming politicized and have been politicizing for years, the same phenomenon that happened in Chicago, the Chicago mafia did not disappear, they simply got into politics, this is happening in Mexico um.

They, um, are picking and choosing their own political candidates. We just saw the president of Mexico when Mandira, El Chapo Guzmán's hometown, in a press conference probably two three years ago said we should buy locally, stop buying these Chinese drugs, you know what? the local farmers um this is something he's telling a multitude of families basically from cartels yeah, so the connection is there for anyone who wants to see it uh politics and the cartels are very intertwined isn't that right, there's no mockery now the cartels are a political force in Mexico it is not a political party, but you can see where politics is going if you see which side and who is on cartel politics and that should be alarming to Americans, so you start to see that this organization It's politics, yes.

There are, they are very politicized, not only in Mexico, not only in Mexico and Americans should pay attention to this, they are also politicized in the United States, there are many people who have gone through immigration processes that were paid for by the Cartel. organizations and then their families go into politics, so yes, this is an influence that is already happening in the United States, so don't think that you are far from that, it is already there who you are. I don't know that's US law Law enforcement and intelligence services I'm just a Mexican guy I just see what I think is happening um so are they politicized?

If they are. Are they using terrorism to further their political goals? Well, yeah, I mean, when I was. 21 I caught a guy off a bridge, it was largely done to terrorize the population, so yeah, they need the definition and that definition in my mind, uh, uh, I mean, you know, you want to talk about weapons of destruction massive? We're over the Ukrainian conflict within the first 72 hours of its start in terms of bodies in Mexico, uh, half of it and if you're listening to this, look how many Mexicans died in the drug war this year alone.

Vietnam, I think that's the last I heard, so, Vietnam, the Vietnam War, I mean, uh, so, it's, it's, it's basically a country that denies the fact that it's in such a civil war. along with a The country that thinks they want to downplay it, downplays it and says it is not a civil war because that is bad for the economy because Mexico is its second largest trading partner and the entire political response is on the conservative side of politics in the United States. It's building the wall, keeping the threat down there, uh, reducing immigration, you know well, none of these are bad for some of these cartel organizations. building the wall means they charge more to cross the wall, that's what it means for the cartel organizations, that wall is doing nothing but improving business for them, for example, they come here, they are, they are, they have been here For years, the reason gang violence decreased in the early 2000s was because the senior cartel took control of narcotics distribution. all over the country that's why gang violence went down not because of law enforcement but because a single player took control of the biggest top of the market that's what happened and when you see that places explode means that there areanother player coming in, I think it's an apocalyptic day.

The scenario for me is to see the new generation cartel basically take control of a city in the United States and you will see the violence that you see now in Mexico because there will be two major players asking them out and that has not happened in A Big Road in the America yet, but that will be the canary in people's minds and I think by then it will be too late to do anything about it. The cover of Pod at eight sleeps as the author. I write late into the night, and as a father of three kids who wake up early, I need every second of sleep I can get.

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Mexico, what we were seeing as far as drugs were being manufactured there when you started, uh, 2000 2001 2002, time period maybe a little before that, uh, and then the things that come from Colombia all the way up, how are they? ? How does that relationship work between what is happening in the south? United States, how they are getting to Mexico through the shipping ports of the Central American waterways and then to the United States compared to the current demand, and the push for fentanyl, yes, as far as the movement is concerned How has that evolved over time? I mean, when I started.

It was meth it was methmost importantly, you know, the mass production of cocaine, uh, marijuana, weed, you know, which is funny to me now because every once in a while, you know, I get turned on, so that's what It's, uh, but you see, that's what you would see and they mostly served you. to an American audience, so the American market is basically moving some of this stuff up. I think the first big change I saw was toward the end of a whole prescription painkiller epidemic, an opioid epidemic that we saw in this country, you know, subsided. and then there was a group of people who were addicted to it who said now what and now what do we take, so there's this gap, okay, it's a perfect hole that was combined with the legalization of marijuana in other parts of the country, uh, California, for example.

That was sold to us as a whole hey, we're going to legalize marijuana, it's just a plan, it's fun, it's great and I agree with it. I have nothing against the use of marijuana. I think it's benign, as you know, you probably like anything if abusing it will probably create some kind of psychosis and it's not completely benign, but for pain relief, relaxing just from craving cookies, okay, they make it legal, but They sell it like, ah, this is going to be a fatal blow. for the cartels because they don't have this money now, you know, but you know people like my friend John Norris, who have been hunting down cartel guys who grow this illegally in the United States on public lands, and they are aware of this, many of those first and marijuana.

The companies already had cartel influences because those were the guys that ran growth operations in the area, so they basically sent him into legal work and put a ton of money in their pockets and kept the illegal growth going, so they didn't do it. they made. anything, at least to reduce the influence of the cartel, but what you saw in southern Mexico, what we saw was that all these fields of grass were now being transferred to Poppy, okay, because they said that grass is no longer producer, let's put poppy here so you can I started to see these poppy fields down there, the problem with these hillsides that there has been, well, I'm not really sure, but this is what I heard from their producers and some of the ones we caught said that the soil was leaking nutrients and there wasn't the potency of the heroin produced from these Mexican poppy plants, it wasn't the same as some of the stuff you would get from other parts of the world.

You know, at the beginning of my career I encountered a giant. ball of black tar heroin that size and if you ever saw any of that, you can smell it before you see it uh, I've never seen that after that, I never saw that color of heroin again, um, it was always light brown heroin powder, um. Someone told them that if they infused it with fentanyl it would be a hit with the consumer. Who was it and who came up with that idea? Well, this is all during the time when Chinese chemists are basically setting up laboratories within the regulated legal limits. pharmaceutical industry in Mexico people can look to send gilegon uh Mexican Chinese industrialist who was caught with 100 million dollars in his house wow and just find out what he was up to uh pharmaceutical industry um then we start to see a heroin with fentannal flood the US market U.S. that's the evolution I first saw, yeah, um, and now you're seeing them switching to painkillers, cloning painkillers and also infusing everything with fentanyl, uh, the cocaine markets are stable because these cartels are now established. all the time.

In Colombia, you'll go to Colombia, you'll play in Medellin and you'll have cartel-specific distributors, you know, and there are Mexicans. Until then you saw the Mexicans try to establish growth operations in other parts of South America. Isn't Colombia trying to take them a little further north? You know, trying to figure that out as they expand their influence in places like North Africa, Southeast Asia, China, for example, not that they're operating, but are you there? Know? Meet and meet people probably all over Europe, so the influence of these criminal organizations has expanded in a crazy way over the years, in terms of what they like.

I mean anything, I think the current trend is linked to fentanal. All. Pill presses are found throughout the country. Packaging. You know, a packet of Imodium that has all the Imodium pills in it, but that's not Imodium. The pain reliever that is made to look like. This is, you know, one of those feel-good pills they give you at the VA, but it doesn't look like it, but then you'll end up dead the next day. You know, a lot of the deaths are attributed to fentanyl right now in the United States legitimately, some of those a lot of those people didn't know what they were taking.

Wow, how about the tactical movement of drugs or items northward over your time? We've seen submarines, uh, semi-submersibles coming up the coast, uh, what have you seen in the distant tunnels we talked about before?, cars that you meet from time to time on the news or you'll post something and see a video of something, whether it's weapons or drugs recorded somewhere and then there are very ingenious methods of hiding it, which has changed over the years, it seems like a constant game of adaptation like any form of warfare, but as you've seen so far , the tactical side of the movement. of items like drugs, uh, North, throughout your time, I mean, the tunnels have always been there when I say always, since the '90s they have been there and they think there are more now, it is one of the elements that I have seen change.

They have been, they are very good at them and most of the tunnels that are found have been used for a while and I know the US is trying to figure them out, it's just difficult, a different type of types of clay and parts of Baja just makes a difference. I was aware of some companies coming out of Israel that were trying to apply some of the same taxes they use in Baja. It's not possible because it's not a soil type, that's what I heard and people can call me, but that's what I heard. I remember seeing bridges built so that people could cross the border wall with a when, when the border wall was just the fence aspect at first, uh, small, uh, blimp. small single-engine aircraft, catapults are used.

I think you posted catapults or something a long time ago, a catapult, a trebuchet catapult, and I know a common history nerd and since I'm a legit, I would consider it. I'm a war fighter, so I should have known about these things when I saw that trebuchet, yeah. I remember watching him on KPBS explaining how it worked and thinking, holy shit, someone paid attention to this, they were throwing drug shipments through the border wall, that's amazing, yeah. Yeah, yeah, RC cars, you know, RC cars are used to move drugs across the border. I saw that I was part of the unit that found the first quadron loaded with methamphetamine that crashed on the border and I took pictures of it. and I think I have them somewhere, so we started to see them constantly trying to figure things out, obviously, when I was on Rogue and I talked about the fact that we found evidence when it was active of a fully submersible submarine and because of this At that time none had been discovered in a big way, I think, and they called me, told me it was full of and then, lo and behold, they found the first, the first, finally they were the first completely submersible and when I mean completely submersible, I mean, they are both underwater, but they're still submerging, so I think what you're seeing now is number one, a lot of these groups have been using dark web technology and to move products in small quantities into the country using shipping locations and products and trade that cross the border and that has been crossing before for years.

They have been using some of the energy from a related industry in Mexico to move things from across the border. And this is something that's already been like they've already figured out some of these, but they're doing it to the point that if they find that one or five of them are going to make it through, then they're throwing the product at the wall. Basically, that's what they're doing. Fast boats on the San Diego side are not uncommon, it's uncommon for many of them to get caught, that's what's uncommon, but many of them make it and just drop off their product. and then in a myriad of places just in San Diego or further north, you're again seeing submersibles being used specifically in the Gulf, but I'm aware that some of them are actually traversing the Pacific side as well, at least. at least at least that's what I've heard from some of the guys, the people that are still at work that share information with me, uh, cars, you know, why make an effort right now to hire? a meal of drugs to cross the border with a few keys of cocaine when you can take advantage of the fact that Tijuana right now is a giant hub for a group of economic immigrants from the US again, 90 of all housing in Tijuana is being bought by Americans, wow, it's a giant hub for Americans, okay, all I have to do is go to a house that has California license plates in one of these rental neighborhoods and I'll track it for a while. day.

Put an air tag. there or something like that I'll track him for a couple of weeks and now I have a car basically going back and forth between the United States with someone completely unsuspecting with very blonde hair and blue eyes and I'll drug him. I will use them as an inadvertent drug meal when this happens regularly in places like Tijuana and has been happening regularly in places like Tijuana. So this Christmas is Christmas and it's funny that it's part of the draw, it's part of the border. The wall that is Tijuana is basically one of the safest parts of the border section, yes, there is one and it is where they are putting most of the Squirrels.

You know, that quality of the wall, the politics around that wall, I'm very, very big. uh uh critical of this, I don't want to say there shouldn't be a wall on immigration and things like that, sure, check everyone, check everyone, but I don't know, don't let anyone in politics sell you on the fact that that border wall is keeping narcotics out of the country it's just not the case of those inadvertent drug mules when they tag that car and then people just come in at night putting something in the trunk or whatever knowing it's going to happen the next day and then , Once I knowpark wherever you park in the US, bam, take that and if I go, you'll have the people, the people in that field, the cartel people, it's Amazon Prime, that's what a nickname for this tactic is , you know, wow, this is basically a free delivery service for themselves, yeah, they're taking full advantage of the fact that that border is porous, not because of corruption, but because America isn't what it used to be. be and there are a lot of economic immigrants living in Mexico and They are bringing with them drug markets, yes, very rich stock markets, which is why you see a lot of shootings in some of these normally peaceful places like The Loom, for example, because of all the economic migraine that the United States now lives there and brings its drugs. market and how people like to fight for it because it's viable, yeah, um, so, again, a lot of the anti-narcotics things that the United States is going to try and things like that are going to be defeated by the fact that the United States itself Americans are making that border wall irrelevant, uh, that's just the whole point and the big push I'm always trying to make is that this is no longer a Mexican-American problem, it's a regional problem and we need to get our Get the ass and call it whatever interesting because a lot of Americans live in Mexico, I think more than anywhere else, I think we have to figure out what this means.

You know, if Americans live down here, Mexicans are up there. They are doing illegal, uh, illegal immigration and they are working in most of the backbone of the service industry in the United States now, if we are honest, even during covid the products were still stored in the aisles, which means that legal immigration was essential labor immigration. essential workers basically and America needs to do some soul searching too when it comes to that aspect yeah and the biggest one is the biggest one and I think the one that's on most people's minds right now because of movies and politics and people use it as a weapon and like to politicize the human trafficking aspect.

I'm just going to ask you about that, yeah, first, human trafficking wasn't invented recently. Jim Caviezel in that movie, he didn't make it up or not. It didn't occur to me, I didn't realize there was a problem, this has been going on for decades, decades, people being moved, people being used, slavery, all of that has been happening on the border for decades, and to me, like new member of this country, uh, you. I know I came here after Trump's election and then I saw all the cancellation, the police aspect. I went through some trips. I went through the Atlanta riots myself.

I went through the Portland riots as an observer, so I wanted to know. You started. Seeing that you saw an entire country basically screaming about their history with slavery and what it's like in the past, and I see Asians and African-Americans and Americans going to Chipotle and buying extra guacamole for their, you know, the Chipotle burrito and that pays . cartels because people are taxing those avocados The producers are on the board or they will go to a hotel and you know that the workers there are paying endangered servitude, payments to an organization somewhere because they couldn't pay their way in, so they are basically slaves.

Gavin Newsom had his cellar opened. during greed and who do you think works in those fields? uh, we're all complicit, that's the aspect. I think a big part of my advocacy aspect in Consciousness is that we're, we're all explicit, we can't point fingers. fingers when it comes to human trafficking, all we want is for you to know that the Epsteins of the world are out there, there is something shady going on with children at the border because they are being arrested and they are not competing unaccompanied. My friend Sean Ryan and I went and toured one. of these Caribbean Migrant Caravan camps at the border and the stories we would hear of children who simply disappeared or women separated because they had the right measurements and who were treated differently and just disappeared as soon as they crossed the border.

Stories like that, yes, and an altruistic American who comes to support these Caravans for the good of humanity with a bunch of things that they would donate to them and then they would basically take those donations and sell them on the open market in Tijuana and buy what they whether they would shop with them, you know, it's crazy to see the realities of some of these things, uh, on the border, because again I'm a border kid, I grew up on the border and I still go there regularly to do something like that . Look what the situation is, look for me, um, I've trained the border patrol.

I have friends who work for the border patrol and I also went there and talked to immigrants and then I trained some of the immigrants, uh, aid workers. not to die in the desert and get out of the way of harm, so I have analyzed this issue from both sides, human trafficking is human trafficking, it is one of the bosses of this giant element of organized crime in Mexico that I can no longer separate myself from politics in Mexico, so it is a massive entity in many parts of that border, they make more money from the bodies on the other side of the border wall and the drugs, and that is simply a truth and that is that the appeal to the cartels.

It is that money that in turn gives them more power and more influence because when we think that you talked before about immigrants who come and work in the fields and that type of human trafficking, then there are organs and there are children and there is sexual slavery that they demand from the United States. The United States demands drugs in the United States, but I think people in their heads can say, okay, there's a demand, it's a business, okay, there's a demand here, if you're here, you're going to provide this product, the organs of young children and The sex trafficking of young children, that part, I think for a lot of people is different than the drugs side, and what did you see throughout your time as far as the movement of children, whether for organs, maybe in Mexico and people from uh?

The United States or Europe comes to get those organs for transplants and that kind of thing and then the demand for children in terms of sexual slavery in the United States and the movement of those children to the North, so again this whole aspect of responsibility and where The problem is that the children were placed in and around luxury hotels and spaces where foreigners would come to visit, like some of the children that are trafficked, that's where they end up. You know, some of the children are stolen from their parents. Mexico because that is also happening a lot of that, we will end up in these services that are aimed at Western European American men and some women apparently, that will come and that is what they do, so let's talk again about responsibility, this whole aspect of the Mexican problem and they keep insisting that it is a regional problem, but an important aspect when I started was that the Americans were basically using the permissive nature of Mexico and the fact that 90 of all murders do not occur.

Don't let yourself be sold in Mexico and imagine that it is going to be the same case in which they have taken full advantage of the situations of child abuse and human trafficking that they were taking, and that they have taken full advantage of some of these permissive spaces in those that are found and it is no secret. that some of the things still happen in places like, you know, southern Mexico and some of the upscale areas where Americans are now gathering the organ harvesting aspect and that in that sense, it's hard to know because this It happens at such a high level and under so much protection, I mean, removing an organ means you have to have access to a private hospital service of some kind and someone with a lot of training to remove it correctly, take it and move it. it's somewhere so that means money that means that means stable organized uh Connections in the industry and in the medical field so it's a cartel but it should tell someone something about the nature of some of these organized crime groups it's a cartel possible probable but it is mainly business problem and it means that these cartels have to diversify and have entered the hospital construction industry and the construction of private hospitals in the watery parts of Mexico.

That's legit, there is a whole medical tourism industry that has grown up around Americans coming to receive. their Medical Treatments in Mexico and some of them come to receive other things, you know, blood transfusions, um Young Blood therapy, it was something that was talked about for a minute and then it disappeared, you know, in Mexico, um, there is and again, no. I don't know about these things directly, but I have heard theories about the murders in places like Juarez and these are theories and I don't know if they are true or not. All I have to go on is that some of my guys went.

Would it be difficult for Lisa to work during some of the times when these murders were occurring of women who were found completely dissected and with no blood in her system? Now, why would you extract all of someone's blood and throw them in a field in a situation that looks like it was a rape and murder unless you don't know it by moral puncture than if you did it to a body to extract all of it? the blood and this is again these are rumors and things that are said and it is Mexico and maybe true or not, I don't know, but it gives you goosebumps, yes, there are missing posters of children in large places.

Urban centers throughout Mexico are everywhere and if people want to go to Mexico City, just take a look. You will see them constantly, children doing this, there is a giant hunger in the United States and in other Western countries, that is where the problem comes in terms of demand and yes, send your operators and then your Jim Caviezels to leave. and countering human trafficking operations in these third world countries and having his hero moment and stuff like that, but where are the raids in the US? Yeah, from some of these sex tourists, uh, that came back, you know, where is the connection that's made between some of these medical industries that are happening outside of the United States and some of the people that are trafficked and disappear, is it? a threat, it's something that's happening and then I see it happening more in the US and more people care to think or know, I mean Arizona is the abduction capital of the United States, for example, people You should think why it is like this.

Do you know what's happening in Arizona that makes it like that? such a place, what is Arizona? Excuse me why Arizona isn't another, it's a giant, it's a giant drug corridor and there's a good chance that politics has already been infiltrated the way I've described in the area, did you run into uh human? trafficking with part of these organized crime syndicates when you were in your senses, children, containers of people, children, women, women from the south, Argentine and Brazilian women in some of the places, nightclubs in Tijuana, basically, held captive because they were not They gave access. the passport or they brought their children and they were promised a living situation where they could have their children with them, but then they separated them from their children and now they are in this um uh children uh related videos and uh child pornography studies Targeted by Americans in Mexico, they were encountered with clear signs of analog attempts to negate the digital traces in the products they were creating and this, I mean, this was when it was active and I know for a fact that it is still going on. that's right that's right there's something happening in Mexico right now where legitimate uh there was an appearance.

I remember at least for a while when I was active in some kind of control or someone in charge or someone in charge or someone giving out finding all these children being trafficked across the country openly in front of the media uh being used as political props. no one cared about that anymore, what is it, no one cares what that is and what that is in the United States. that demand is obviously like there's a man for drugs, there's a demand for these kids up here, um, in that particular one we talk a lot about drugs, but when we talk about kids moving here, um, and what do you think it's the psychology of that? in Mexico, providing that product like for drugs, you can see there's a boom in demand there or whatever, kids, especially when you talk about religion and even if it's the occult and it's become a weapon and all that kind of stuff. of things, but just the humanity of uh let's state cartels in any humanity of moving children to a place where you know they're going to be used in the way they're going to be used is not a substance is not uh is not a drug if it's a person, it's a small child, what is the psychology of that that allows you to move them the same way you move, let's say cocaine, marijuana or fentanyl?

I'll ask all the Americans who have donated money to some of these Caravan organizations all over South America, what is the psychology of that? They're trying to help because something has been normalized to the point that these brainwashed idiots are basically sending money to an organized human trafficking attempt because that's a lot of these that's what they are, yeah, uh, if the people isFor example, why do you think the first migrant caravan didn't go to Texas like this recent one did? Why do you think he went to Tijuana? I don't know The answer is simple, they are all from 18th Street, most of them when I say most of them probably 70 percent, if not more, were 18th Street gang members head to toe with tattoos, that's why everyone wears hoodies even when it was summer in Tijuana and that's why when the citizens of Tijuana saw these people come in and demand to be taken to the United States, demand that money be given to the United States to return to their place of origin and demand that the local population basically give them They gave them everything they needed and they complained about the fact that they were given beings, that's why the locals in Tijuana basically rose up, um, and there it is where they make Tijuana great again.

I saw some of that here and I may or may not have done some of those, but that's a feeling because people were aware that these people were being used as a political weapon, that the Americans were coming to paint these guys as victims. , like someone who needed to be led to the United States and the locals. They were like what's going on, these are a group of criminals, uh, the women and children were being placed on the outside of the camp, so for the footage, while all the men were in the middle, they had to be taken out. a football field. where they were being held next to a school because of all the drug soliciting and all the needles that were found at the elementary school that was right next door and if you don't believe me, ask the locals, we actually filmed the podcast. next to that field and you can go there and ask them, what happened?

What is a psychology? I think a lot of horrible behavior has been normalized over the years in certain political backgrounds and on a certain side of the political spectrum that makes people scream for support. to these poor children who are being transported across the country to have a better life in the United States, when our own fact is that they are being trafficked across the country by criminal elements into the United States to be received by other criminal elements who They're already waiting for them, uh, and in many ways the government is being complicit because they grab them, they install them, they move them and they notify whoever needs to be notified and then eventually, at some point, whoever actually owns them. appears that happens a lot um this is uh this is a problem in a situation that is not improving this is the most violent year to be Mexican and it is getting worse uh if we can do the same calculations regarding Americans and If they can, so that we can feel it Also, how many people have died from overdoses or exposure to fentanyl, without even knowing what they were taking.

I was in Cleveland and heard the story of these three teenagers who were doing cocaine for the first time. and guess what was in the cocaine that they buried those three kids, uh, the day, a few days later, you know, and they were just idiot kids, you know, yeah, I remember when you'd find a joint on the ground and you'd be like, oh, this It's the best day ever now you're not going to smoke that thing, well, you don't know what's in it, you know, uh, it's a dangerous and very dangerous time to be young, yeah, like it's one of the most dangerous times in life. history and in one of the most dangerous places in the world I guess for a kid, as a society, you know, it's the way we want, I like to consider myself an American and I'm a permanent resident of this country.

I'm paying taxes. I want full citizenship. I'm trying to get there, it's a matter of time more than anything, uh, for all the people in this country, in terms of it being a bad place, a racist place for whatever you want to see, uh, there are fewer enemies to that freedom in this country. than anywhere else in the world, that's why everyone comes here and the world itself is less and less influenced by Americans, that specific American mentality that the good guys versus the bad guys we want to make everything better, we want to make things better for the people .

The United States is retreating and its globalism is about to disappear and this isolationism that we are starting to encounter, I think after Trump and I understand the national aspect, I understand his need to make America great again. No no no. Don't get me wrong, I understand what you are pushing and what people are responding to in terms of your politics, but there is a Time Bomb soldier on the southern border and already several small ones in the United States and I think that is what is to come If people don't realize this fact, it's not about politics, left or right, you know, there's a reason why all this talk about Mexicans being a terrorist organization is bipartisan in nature.

I mean, people are waking up to this fact, yes, whatever conflict is coming, it's probably going to happen on that southern border, so we've talked a lot about drugs coming north, children coming north. north, um, but there are some things that go south, uh, where were you when you heard about, uh, it was the Fast and Furious weapons tracking debacle, uh and and what did you see during your time as far as weapons moving southward and then that particular operation, uh, where the weapons ended up southward and then how was that, anyway, if people haven't looked that up quickly and Furious Katie Pavlich has a great book about it called The Fast and the Furious um, but what do you think about that situation?

It's an example of me wondering exactly what the government I was working for at the time was doing. It has come to light that the Mexican president at the time, Felipe Calderón, had some kind of knowledge of this operation beforehand and, if she knew it, she has many questions to answer. Can she describe it for people from her perspective? I guess the ATF decided that. It was a good idea to allow stubborn firearms purchases to occur in places like Arizona and Texas to allow these small arms buyers, basically individuals, to buy things for themselves that they would then traffic to Mexico and sell to the cartels, the Gunrunners. you know, if people want to call them um, they decided very specifically to let some of them cross that border with an absurd amount of new firearms that are purchased at many gun stores across the border in the United States, a operation that I think predates Obama I.

I think it started with the Bush administration, but it basically continued and fed weapons to a Sinaloa cartel that was fighting for control against the Setta cartel at a very specific time in the history of the U of Mexico. Very suspicious. Very suspicious of a single sign. was armed with some of these weapons, they eventually dispersed and different cartels were found with some of these, but the main influx of some of these weapons ended up at the scene in the hands of the Noir cartel, now how did I find out about this situation ? They said we saw the murder of a federal agent with one of these weapons in Mexico, that blew up into this whole controversy, but before that, and mind you, I raised some money for that.

I have raised a lot. I myself paid a good amount of money for the Ryan Terry Foundation and I thought it was a very symbolic gesture to do so, so I raised I don't remember exactly how much, a pretty substantial amount, a little over three thousand dollars for the Ryan Terry Foundation, um and I do it just to let people know that I'm not here to take sides, but no one has raised money for my friends to have been killed by some of these weapons at that time. I did it to prove a point, the first time.

I saw an fn57 pistol. She was left abandoned on the side of the road after she was used in the murder of one of my friends and his wife. He was leaving his house. Two boys showed up with new fn57 pistols. box I unloaded those guns on my friend, his wife and his daughter, who was in the back seat, who lost her arm, she survived but she doesn't have an arm, so we started discovering space weapons, you know, cop killers, cop killers , uh, P90. uh Barrett 50 cows in the box with the man with the manual still in it uh civilian grade AR-15 platforms that can be converted to vulvas with a machine shop, a lot of this had Magpul Dynamic in there so there's no question where it is it all came from uh, except we were seeing them, it's like, oh, these guys have the latest, uh, little front grip there, you know, um, so we're seeing a lot of that, so we're starting to see a lot of that, at most, uh, like a flood. of them basically and uh we couldn't understand where they were coming from, you know, we should start getting a surge on their side, you know, we thought well since we were using armored vehicles now to move our command structure. 50 cows were being brought into the fight and some of them are being used against some of those armored vehicles, so there was an obvious increase in violence with some of those weapons coming into Mexico and killing and murdering a lot of people who never They will have a base.

I started by including some of my friends. What did that mean and what was it about? I have no idea, it's very suspicious to Mexican eyes as to what the United States was doing, American interests putting together a single cartel, we don't know, I think Eric Holder does. There's a lot to answer so I don't know how he's free, but it's just me, if I ever get a chance to see him in person, I want to talk to him. There are some things happening on the board. US foreign policy has not. has been the best and when it comes to Mexico in recent history, it has created a problem that is now murdering thousands of Americans through fentanyl coming across the border, it is more than thousands of Mexicans or with firearms that are trafficked to Mexico and used to commit crimes. there too by criminal organizations that are being fostered and propped up by well-meaning Americans who send money to support these Caravans and these immigrants making their way when in reality they are supporting a giant criminal enterprise that basically makes blood money. and bodies and children and women yes and children um I think I think the next war will probably be south of uh south of the border I think it's not me who wants I don't want a war in Mexico I would rather everyone just they would relax and we would all get together and just figure things out as to how to be better as a neighborhood in a country.

I think we're going to need each other more than we think when it comes to uh like when it comes to global politics in the near future, since globalism is basically disappearing, but before that we have to extract the tuberous cancer giant and I think tumor cancer is on both sides of that border and you mentioned executive protection earlier in high risk executive protection, learning from some of the guys on the team who were in Iraq doing that security detail, which I always won and you know it was an interesting time to be doing that kind of work in Baghdad in the Mostly it was very interesting, you learned some of that and then you adapted it to where you were these days, right?

When it comes to your personal safety and personal protection, is that something you are? Don't sound paranoid, but when you go out, I'm sure you have situational awareness that's naturally attuned to changes in your environment, but what kind of lessons did you learn from doing that work down there and what you're doing? now and I know you're doing, you're teaching all over the country, you have these different courses, I can't wait to take one of them, I mean, doing some for years, counter custody stuff, um, but you're, you're teaching these. these incredibly unique courses, uh, but you also have to worry about yourself, um, and, do you take it?

I'm sure you take precautions, but, uh, how much is on the floor and how much bandwidth does it take up these days? your personal safety, well, I mean, first of all, a lot of the people who work with me don't work and who no longer work with me worked for one side, so I don't worry about the whole side of that issue. myself because I was never with them personally I never took anything that wasn't mine I never worked with anyone on their side I was in anyone's pocket so on that my mind is clear I got out of that job the poor people should know that That's why I'm doing this.

You know, if I had lost my job and found a bag somewhere, I wouldn't be talking to you right now online, I'd be somewhere enjoying a margarita in the hills or something, uh, it's necessary, it makes me lose a I get a little sleep from time to time, but it's something I have to do. Basically, I am a homeless person. I travel all over the country and have been sleeping in Airbnbs and hotels. Basically, I'm doing training classes and discovering things related to the business and being an advocate for things from the past that I have.

I'm about to go on vacation and this is my first vacation in about three years. No, I'm glad it's time to get it. I'm getting back into training in case I get a field this fall, since I've been writing a lot more than I've been working out lately, reasonpeople, this is how some of these things happen and I'll show you how to do it. We will go through the entire process and not only that, but I will also give you the simulated experience of stabbing something. They have pigs in these classes. Pig carcasses in these classes.

We go through a process of familiarization and real knowledge of what these things do. meat, if you

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y a knife every day, if you never stab the pig or something like that, it's probably a good idea, you know, it's like having a gun and never taking it to a shooting range, huh, but it's a great aspect of things that I What is shown in that class is a mindset software. You don't have to buy a 500 knife to be dangerous and capable. You know a kitchen knife that you can pick up and knowing what to use is enough if you have the right mindset and the right skills.

You can become very unwieldy and dangerous anywhere if you pick up a moving object, why would you need to know that? I don't know because the United States is becoming a non-permissive environment in some places that you know don't allow it. you have a responsibility to take care of yourself and your family and that's exactly what it is it's not about rights people should cut back people should get off that high horse it's not about your right it's about a responsibility that people now it doesn't allow us to take responsibility for our own safety and our own families, that's what it is, people should see it that way, also the weapons class webinar is about that and again I've done it for the military who travel abroad, how can they equip themselves. themselves, you know, you know people, you can't take your can of Mace, well, you don't need a can of Mace, get some brake cleaner and I'll show you how to turn it into the best anti-car theft device you can. have you ever carried with you no uh duck uh big lighter duct tape to a uh double dd40 can make you a pocket flashlight will make you warm around the fire I guess if you wanted to uh how to highlight an object that I know points are usually what people creates in non-permissive environments.

I'll show you hundreds of ways to do it. You don't need to have what you need, you can create it anywhere and I think that's a very powerful thing to give. people, that's one thing I do through armology, that's kind of a class, you know, metal detectors, density scanners, all these things are there to give you a sense of security, but once you actually get to the history of these things and how they work and how criminals have already figured out how to get out of them, you realize it's not that simple and again, we come from a post-9/11 environment, people should have learned that lesson a long time ago, but I guess so.

There are still people in classes that don't learn it, uh, for the first time, yeah, how much of that stuff did you see on the job versus how much did you see and then you adapted to, oh, they could, they did it like that, but you know what you could ? It is this? Yeah, I mean I saw a lot of that at work, but these people had a little time to figure things out and I've been at this a long time, not only that, but I have great friends. I have friends who are in the field of manufacturing firearms with 3D printers.

I have friends who are in the software field and hacking communities. I have friends who are in the Primitive survival community to show me how to make a glass knife or that showed me that a deer antler can get into every airport in the United States and is enough to pierce a torso and it's not on the list of no-fly items, so I'm basically figuring out and learning how to expand some of this. knowledge base and how I show it to people. One thing I never do is never show anything I haven't seen out there, so if I see something that's unique, I think it's cool. keep it for myself or maybe for cool friends who might hire me, you know, from the government, but everything else is open source, so if anyone gets alarmed by something I post on my Instagram account or anything I show in any way way, they must leave. more, yeah, because some of these things are completely open and open source, all I do is basically format them into a two-day class for people and, again, I'm not there to train you to become that, I'm here to let you know that that's there to learn how it works so you can identify it so you can take the red pill and realize that safe areas, safe zones, gun free zones are basically victim rich zones and if you're not Taking responsibility for your own safety is a matter of your family, who you are, you know, yes, counter custody is basically the same thing, but it relates specifically to getting out of restraints, so we go over handcuffs, zip ties, duct tape , the rope, uh, the chemical. restrictions like fentanyl High potency marijuana bothers a little other medications that are used for this type of thing.

I am not a medical professional, but I will go into the discussion of how they are used, what they look like, and how. them, the symptoms, the symptoms and what the treatment would look like if you had access to it, uh, but then I'll get into the whole process of how some of these abductions will work. You know, there's no standard way for this, but people who try to do it. getting control over someone else to humanize them, holding them down, taking their stuff, tying them up, all of these things usually have some commonalities and I'm pretty good at formatting all of that into a class for people, so that's what I've been doing. the federal, local, state and civil classes that I've been teaching around the country for about four or five years, yeah, that's amazing and people should take a quick look at how easy it is to walk into a hotel room and such.

Maybe just think about some things you might want to do to stay safe in some of these places. When you posted the other day, I think it was a couple, yeah, yesterday the day before yesterday, but yeah, we just did one, we just did a class. in Riverside with my friend Matt Fiddler from zierpic uh he's actually done serial type training for the government and stuff like that, but he's a covert entry specialist and he's basically going to show you how to pick every commercial lock on the market right now. uh and I'm a lockpicking specialist because I used to do that for the government in Mexico uh but Matt went for the first exhibition.

I got into opening locks uh and talking about locks has a space and a part, you know people. look at some of the things we show in classes like oh you're teaching criminals, criminals won't pick locks, criminals will take two kettlebells and tape them together, make a battering ram and use it to break down the front door , criminals won't do it. lock picks maybe some of them do, I don't know, but most don't. That class is legitimate and designed to be a wake-up call for people. Yes, we will teach you how to open all commercially available locks. lesson, there's a buyer beware, uh, and don't depend on this lock to keep anyone out either.

Locks are there to keep honest people out, not the rest, um, this series of under the door tools videos that are happening out there of people using them. One of the first things we show you when you use another door tool is to first identify the doors that are viable or feasible to attack on that door, so one thing I do is I take off my cell phone case. phone and I'll slide it under the door so I can see the door with the camera, right trick, eh, no. I challenge people to see if they can find that trick that someone else before me shows on video, but it's a trick um, it's a trick that I learned from criminals, you know, that's who I learned from um, once you learn to do that, use that tool under the door for that handle, you notice if you put a baseball cap on the handle of that.

The door sucks for the guy trying to use that tool or if you put a wedge in that door, it's specifically a saber wedge. It's a door alarm wedge that's out there, so if you move slightly it will cause an alarm. I always travel with her. one and although they were always at the door of my hotel, then you start to realize that through the act of carrying out this criminal method you realize how to counter it and if you weren't exposed to that, I find it difficult to figure out how you would do it, unless someone likes it.

I say, well, just put a wedge in your door and that's enough for security, but why? Well, because this with this wave opening the door there is this wave opening the door like that there is dynamic entry there is break and entry there is social engineering there is uh there is go to the hotel lobby and pretend that I am your husband and you lost your key and have a AI voice emulator answering the phone, you know, because it's something that already happened in Mexico and I just showed that in class this weekend and everyone was like, yeah, so I can call your wife and I have someone who doesn't It's your wife answering the phone.

Wow, a lot of these classes are where you get to know the software knowledge. You know your enemy. Know his sword to continue coding Musashi. It is very influential. The book of five rings was a very influential book when I was a kid, it was in my backpack at 13 when I basically ran away from home and I think about uh still running away in some ways, yeah, wow. incredible and well, what awaits you? What awaits you? When you look at the next five years, everything you've accomplished so far, everything you've gone through through this Foundation that you've built from past experiences and now in this country.

You, uh, looking at the next five years, defense, defense, defense, uh, people like me, you'll say, hey, relax, tie up, lie down, uh, take a break, uh, uh, people talk about, uh, well , I am so first that I am an immigrant. In this country I am new here and I need to show that that is my way of thinking most immigrants not all have that mentality um many people talk about the freedoms that this country offers. I am grateful for the responsibilities it has allowed me. to assume something legitimate, if anything, that I kiss the ground in the US when I leave it and return to it.

I am grateful for the responsibilities it has given me, you know, I came to this country without anything and now I have some employees that I take care of the best I can, it has allowed me to create a charity that is currently feeding some very needy fighters who are moving up in their fighting careers and their dreams are trying to achieve something so a big part of some of the things we support are through them, we also pay for some eye surgeries and surgeries and needs for a group of orphans that were left behind by some of the conflicts that I was a part of and as I move forward, I am providing a platform for people who have gone through trauma before to express themselves and talk about it.

I have a podcast where I have people like Micah on. Fink, who runs Heroes for Horses and is doing an incredible service in bringing people back from war even though they're back, people that I used to fight with, you know, my first guest on my podcast was Konejo, a rapper from my unit. I basically arrested him on murder charges and deported him to the United States, and now we're friends, wow, and our daughters played together while we were recording the podcast, so okay, I guess a big part of my next step on Project is book the one I'm almost done with uh it's not a memoir of any kind it's legit uh book uh a collective collection of poems that are poems written uh written written spoken poems related to some of the experiences I've had and some of the lessons I've been given since 13 to 40.

And I'm about to turn 41. So I'm wrapping it up, uh, in the next month, you know, okay, I was going to ask you about a book and, uh, but I was thinking more about this experience. , I couldn't find a conclusion, I couldn't find a conclusion and I think after two years of therapy I'm out of the loop, I'm so busy improving other people's lives instead of my own. own I think I'm there I think I'm there now um so I'm probably ready for the next chapter wow man, well thank you so much for spending so much time with me, it's a great honor.

I have been following you for a while and, for a long time, I refer back to your courses. I mean, I have to participate in one or several of those in the future. I saw your first published book and shared it. my profile I remember you sent me a cool supportive message like that thanks for sharing it man um and then I randomly turned on the TV somewhere on my travels and saw you know the things that were in my head right now like people moving the screen and stuff that I don't recognize like that uh tomahawk as part of my own personal history um now being out there in a way that I remember being able to point out that uh tomahawk uh to my daughter and tell her that I used to carry one of those No way and then I took the picture of myself standing in front of a Blackhawk helicopter wearing some Marine Warfare jungle boots I bought at Pendleton in Coronado after being in their store in jeans, a Blackhawk baby carrier thatIt was a piece. of and a nice Winkler Tomahawk fallen curly maple handle hanging off my left side and my MP5 was an amazing moment of my life uh and it's amazing to see elements of it now portrayed as fictional forms, you know, it's wild, it's wild I had to to be alive, so thank you for doing that, oh man, thank you so much and I'm so glad that you're on this path and that you're here and that things are going the way they're going.

You and I hope we can connect in person soon, but again, Instagram, what is it? The new one is a Manifesto radio. Ok, Manifesto radio and Instagram or you can go to www.edsmanifesto.com and it has a link to all of them. of our social media has a link to our Patreon account, which is where we do a lot of our nice digital training and uh and uh to all the things that we work on and love and the community that we so kindly are. a part of so if people want to see us they can go there yeah everyone please do and of course all of that will be in the show notes too but man thanks again and I don't know when we can get together but I hope we can do it soon and I'll be watching for that book with the poems to come out and I'll pick it up the first day it's available and I'll talk about it on whatever platform I have, so, yeah, man.

Best wishes and thank you very much for spending so much time. This is what I'm going to do. I don't watch my podcasts, um, but I'm going to watch this one with pen and paper. I'll be taking some notes from this, this will be the first time I've done this on one of my podcasts, so thank you very much, thank you and I also realize that this is like that, do that and uh. it's just that people like me aren't represented anywhere in the media, so it's legit, I've never seen myself anywhere, in any fictional form except the hitman guy, yeah, what do you think of them when you see a movie like that? you see narcs or something like that, are you trying to enjoy them for what they are or are you separating things or are you okay?

I'm separating things yes, Denise El Toro had an MP5 and was wearing a blue shirt, someone was looking at my Instagram account but I don't know who knows, I probably don't know, but I'm not a lawyer from Colombia so people need to get off from that train, it's crazy to see some of that stuff, but legit, I've never done it to this day, I haven't seen anyone represented that I would recognize as someone who comes from the country I come from, great for inducing what you should do something about that, yeah, yeah, I'll make some notes here. yeah you're the guy you're the guy oh man thank you yeah I appreciate everything and yeah please reach out if you ever need anything and man I'm really excited for what's coming so I'll be.

I'm sure I'll see you in person one of these days. We'll see you around soon. I'm about to take a class somewhere in October with Clint Emerson. Oh, that's cool again, we've been talking like I'm on his podcast a few times and he's approaching everything from a different point of view, uh, I like it, so it's going to be wild and again, I love being a part of this community, like just learning from all of these, uh, we all come from a post-9/11 environment probably and it's crazy that we're all on this side now living this weird afterlife of kind of like how we were all fighting each other, which It's great, I'm going to pay attention and if that date works for me whenever that class comes up.

I'm going to see what I can do to sneak in on that Craig Douglas Clint Emerson and some other people. It's basically this whole Symposium thing, oh, okay, okay, okay, yeah. I'll be paying attention, so if I can make it, I'll be there, but if I can't, then we'll connect somewhere else, we'll figure it out. I'm always almost on the road. so yeah all the travel miles in the world are in my pocket so let me know I'll show up oh man how amazing so amazing thanks again and we'll talk soon okay man take care take care of yourself too black raffle .

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It's amazing for sure here in the Salt Lake City area and you may have noticed it. one in the Amazon Prime video series adaptation of the list of terminals in James Reese's garage, so I love that thing 4 Knox, awesome, what is this? This is a Smith Wesson 686 revolver and stainless steel right there and Tim on the dead air silencers heard me and Jeff Gonzalez on the podcast talking about this and talking about how we used to use them on the SEAL teams, uh, when I got there for the first time, so I always wanted an awesome revolver, if you don't have one, you probably need one and, uh, which means I also need some training, so I went to Thunder Ranch in Oregon and trained with Clint Smith with revolvers.

I shot the Smith Wesson uh 45 ACP Thunder Ranch Edition there, which I also have in the safe, it's cool, but this one is correct. 686 Smith Wesson stainless steel here and I can't wait to get some leather for this thing and put it to the test, so Tim at Dead Air Silencers, thanks for pointing me in the right direction and I've wanted one of these for over 20 years. Now I have it, Tim, thanks and of course that led me to this here, so this is the six-hour P226 and this is what I carried in the SEAL teams on every deployment.

This thing was in a holster on my hip when I had to leave my M4 to go to a meeting or something. I always had my P226, so this fits my hand very well. I love this so Sig, thank you so much for that and Frederick Pen Company so thank you all. There, Frederick Pen Company sent me two pens and, yes, Frederick Penn co.com and they put a lot of thought into the type of wood that was used in this custom pen and I love pens, but this one has to do with one of the novels.

So thank you all, I really appreciate it and they made this custom for me right here, look at that and they put a crosstalk box in there, I'm not sure if you can see it there or not, but they engraved the crossed tomahawks in there for me, so thank you. guys, that's Frederick Penn co.com, check them out, okay. Anthem shook up in Montana so I was at the airport not long ago and someone recognized me and it ended up being someone from Anthem right here so we got talking and this is a veteran owned business in Montana and they sent me some jerky, this is amazing, check them out, follow them on Instagram and yeah, this is the bourbon flavor right here, this is some spicy right here, right, fire, what are they trying to do?

I, yeah, I'll probably like this one, the best, amazing, yeah, Bourbon, and then they have some dog treats right here, so our dog Scout is very grateful, so, once again, Anthem a-n-t-h-e-n M, a Veteran owned company here, just down the road. Montana so thank you all and oh look at this man Caleb he was here yesterday from Stick Sniper archery and he brought me this so this is uh Dorado American single malt whiskey and this is from the southwest from the United States, the Sonoran Desert, and man, I can't wait. Try this here. I think I'll do it tonight, so, awesome Caleb Brewer, uh, awesome guy, you should follow Caleb and sticks and sniper archery too, but thanks for the gift, my friend sincerely appreciates it. enjoy it in this glass right here check that out so an official

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