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BREAKING: Trump's OWN employees flip on him in BOMBSHELL legal development

Apr 02, 2024
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breakdown, so Glenn, we've got some pretty big news here. Two of Trump's

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at Mar-A-Lago were found to have moved boxes of papers the day before the FBI visited Mar-A-Lago. What impact does this have on The Case Against Trump, you know, Brian, this only strengthens the case that Donald Trump was obstructing justice. It sure seems like aided and abetted by others, it feels like a conspiracy to obstruct justice. You know, it's quite remarkable. The Washington Post reporting I think the Washington Post was the first to break this news that Trump and company were holding dress rehearsals, in other words, they were practicing what they would do with these classified documents, documents that Donald Trump stole from the federal government that he had . he had no right to take them to his Florida home at Mar-A-Lago, he was il

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ly holding them at Mar-A-Lago and we now have reports that they were conducting dress rehearsals up until the time the Department of Justice sent in FBI agents . and federal prosecutors, including Jay Brat, the head of the desk, our intelligence section of the National Security Division.
breaking trump s own employees flip on him in bombshell legal development
I worked with Jay when he was a national security prosecutor in the D.C. U.S. Attorney's Office. the day before these people were going to recover documents that Donald Trump shouldn't. Now it looks like Trump and company were moving boxes. I mean, the only reasonable inference is to hide things and not give them back to the FBI agents and federal prosecutors who came to recover them. This is damning evidence. It is evidence that goes directly. to Donald Trump's intention to commit the crime of obstruction of justice and I have to tell you Brian that I cannot wait for the prosecutors to have their feet in the pit of a courtroom arguing this before 12 jurors in the jury box sitting like conscience. of the community because I maintain with all the evidence that they are accumulating against Trump and company, this case is going to judge itself to that point on the general rehearsals that Trump and his allies had moved confidential documents before receiving subpoenas to those documents.
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Um again you mentioned that this would suggest that they knew how to do this and still made a conscious decision not to do it, so how will prosecutors be able to take that into account to prove their intent to commit a crime when they actually go to trial, you knows if the evidence pans out and shows that the Trump team was engaging in nefarious dress rehearsals to try to prevent these documents from being returned to the federal government, the rightful owner of the documents that will resonate so much with jurors. What would you do if you were a prosecutor?
breaking trump s own employees flip on him in bombshell legal development
I would say to you, ladies and gentlemen, how many bank robbery movies have you seen where the bank robbers gather together before the planned bank robbery and get the getaway car, you know, using the stopwatch? at the same time how long will it take to enter the bank how long will it take to open the safe how long will it take to unload the money and walk away from the crime scene how many movies have we all seen you already know that theme, that narrative, well, here you have that play Out In Living Color with Donald Trump and company in a conspiracy to illegally withhold these documents and obstruct justice by not returning them to the federal government, that's the kind of story, Brian, that I think all jurors can understand and appreciate what was really going on. , they have the dress rehearsals and then there are the reports about how the day before the FBI agents and federal prosecutors were going to arrive at Mar-A-Lago to recover the documents that Donald Trump should not have had, they are moving boxes, you know, They are not doing that to facilitate, making sure that all the documents come back, how can we say that?
breaking trump s own employees flip on him in bombshell legal development
Well, because when they went there, they gave up, I think. some documents, but the FBI and the Department of Justice knew they had other evidence that they had not returned all of them, so they asked a federal judge for a search warrant for Mar-A-Lago and here is when the judge issued that . search warrant there were still a hundred or more classified documents, including Donald Trump's desk drawers, this will end up being a powerful case on the evidence, Glenn, how would prosecutors know this information? Is this evidence that someone at Mar-A-Lago is cooperating? with them, oh, there's a mole at Mar-A-Lago, there's a lot of moles, of course, there's security footage, some of which I believe was subpoenaed and received by federal prosecutors, has probably already been presented to the grand jury. , it could very well be that, um, they, the feds are on a wire, as we put it, you can request from a federal judge what we generally call wiretaps or Title III information that allows us to monitor to listen in real time What people are talking about on the phone, I mean, the possibilities are endless when it comes to those kinds of covert investigative steps that the feds can take when they're involved in this kind of undercover operation, so I get the feeling at the end of the The day you know that we will see all kinds of evidence in the trial about people who are at Mar-A-Lago and who will provide information, whether consciously or unconsciously, in real time, how does a big event like this impact on the case schedule?
There were indications that the Mar-A-Lago classified documents case was actually wrapping up before this, yes, so I noticed in the Washington Post article that there was a suggestion that this could actually extend the deadline for indictments . I don't know if there may be more extensions of time before Donald Trump is held accountable for at least some of his crimes, but the reality is that the more information that comes out this way, the more prosecutors have to evaluate, they have to present it to the Grand Jury. . We may have to call additional witnesses to fully develop the information before they can move on to asking the grand jury to present indictments, so I wouldn't be surprised if, while these feel like really important evidentiary advances, it doesn't necessarily mean that we're If we are going to see indictments faster than we normally would have, it could actually, as I say, extend the time for indictments to be returned by the grand jury.
Well, isn't it also possible that investigators or prosecutors already knew about this just because it's being reported now doesn't necessarily mean it's new information to the investigators themselves, so the timeline may also be the same, it's just that we're uncovering new information now, yes, absolutely, you know there are some aggressive, creative, really good investigative journalists. out there, but every once in a while you'll see it being reported for the first time that you know prosecutors took a new avenue of investigation, as evidenced by the subpoenas that were issued, and then you continue reading the article and it says: We heard about this, We just found out about these subpoenas, but they were issued three months ago, so you're absolutely right, sometimes the reports lag behind the evidence the feds are developing, but you know sometimes the reports can even be in-your-face.
If reporters have sources within Investigations who can say they know what it looks like, there are some investigative steps to be taken and that's when reporters can really get in front of a story. I know this is a bit of an impossible question to answer, but judging by this

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, what do you think a rough timeline would look like at this point? Yes, how many times have we predicted that charges were imminent? no one, no one will accuse me of learning from my mistakes, here I go again, um, I feel like there have been some reports about um, you know, as soon as June 1st or shortly after June 1st, we may see our First federal indictment, you know?
It may be a little ambitious. I have a feeling Jack Smith is nearing the end game, at least in the classified documents investigation, maybe not necessarily the Insurrection investigation, but I'm still hopeful that we'll see a number of criminal cases. The accusations against Donald Trump will come sometime this summer. Do you think Jack Smith, once he is ready to take this case to trial, will be independent of the ongoing January 6th Insurrection case? I think he probably he will know. You can definitely see all the The crimes that Donald Trump appears to have committed many in the harsh light of day date back to 2016 in his attempt to illegally acquire the presidency of Russia if you're listening to, for example, um and then walking through his presidency, the obstruction of justice is documented by Bob Mueller. the bribery and extortion of President Zielinski using congressional funds and so on and so on and it somehow culminates in the insurrection in Donald Trump's attempt to illegally retain the power of the presidency now, as an old prosecutor, I can see all of that and I can see an overarching conspiracy under which we could bring all those charges because they're all motivated by pretty much the same thing, the same thing from Trump's perspective.
I want, I want to take over the presidency and I want to illegally maintain the presidency. presidency I will say that the document crimes, the classified document crimes feel a little bit separate and other than that, it seems to me that Donald Trump tried to exploit probably for financial advantage all those documents that he stole and there are also some reports now in the new Washington Post article about how you know he would not only keep those documents in his office, but he's also been known to show people those documents, so I have a feeling this will be the first federal charge and it will be independent of what happens .
I think it will be a conspiracy to defraud or commit crimes against the United States, that will be the insurrection. Okay, obviously there's a lot to keep an eye on as this case continues to grow and we continue to find more information in the media and hopefully, very soon we'll have a court date or a trial date and we can finally get into the thick of it. this, so with that being said, if you want to follow along, make sure you subscribe, the links are Here on the screen I'm Brian Tyler Cohen and I'm Glenn Kirschner.
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