WELCOME TO THE AA EPISODE #52 GERT VERHULST

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to a great visit today to us in the man cave. Our guest today is an actor, singer, television presenter, composer, screenwriter and businessman, he made his way to the general. audience of the show Samson and Gert, is co-founder of the successful phenomenon Studio 100, turned K3 into an international success machine, briefly broke the empire on The Smartest Person with 11 consecutive participations and is also the most popular talk show host in Flanders. with

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, i think there are awesome people here and there, a bit of an exaggeration, but hey, not an exaggeration in my opinion, what did you think you did?

I still haven't mentioned half of what you've done because we've been doing that for half an hour working and I've been working for over 30 years and nothing more than my group has focused on a piece of land around the corner for 20 years in a scenario I just did something together that didn't participate in the psychic while renting one of those things I think holy shit, where has he done and everything then a bachelor or maybe maybe I'm shorter than you I'm pretty ca but I used to be less seems to have gotten shorter now but the boots maybe negative features right?

I don't believe it anymore, I understand what you mean because I once kept thinking about you because I take signs of healing, we see that you said that when you were a child you once went to pick beans during the summer holidays and then you already drove more beans. about which one to choose and all the other hospital I am quite competitive if I want to do something then I like to be the best at it I used to be in school also in more or less sports or or normally I was in primary school most of the time the class yes and I like the language, yes, and that is not erased once, and then that and the frustration, and when we hand in the study, there is your exact one, I don't know better who it was and who was the first wish that you had at that time, kind Mariën, how good that he also knows that we never knew anything about that after primary school, he was clear, Mariëndaal, us, who said who won to live in that place.

It's really something you're mulling over, apparently because if you're really what we, what strikes me most about you when you read what you've done with it, almost everything is very successful, yeah, it's hard for me to say. . but there are a series of things that have had reasonable success, yes, but that is not always just the merit of my mobile, I was always a little in the middle of something between the separated ones, I tilted it in that direction and I was surprised. actually if you look at yourself and you like Studio 100 you don't share you just concentrate and people don't care about hippies and their social media to handle the original Samsung yeah and where was your involvement so yeah you really see that criticism, especially me.

I am someone who very well sees things that come and I see in my head how to do it, but I am less of a man to do it, I am someone who likes to negotiate, I am someone who likes to do it in the moment, Now I'm talking about 20 years ago , I went to the VRT to fix things. To break the always need someone. I do the same alone. I like not having a partner. So I've been studying under the driving force. Take a little initiative as well, at least, for example, someone who was a public official within the management time at that time and it was not obvious to get out of there, so I really started to have to pull and drag the attacks, their origins in a true entrepreneur, which I do and I took the mini tripod from everything, yes, but I had it, I could never do it alone because I always need people who, if so, will grab the ketchup of that gala yes yes yes yes yes yes no no you have to understand Ikea or that, of course, a lot of people just don't love it, they've messed with the big bosses and say look, now we're sitting.

Samson and Gert are now being produced serving at home because we ourselves are lighting up the production house and next to someone standing in the press room and yeah, we didn't say those men we have to reduce it to that, I couldn't, it's funny because for years that image is in itself, absolutely the idea that people today have the genes and I can go there as the steely businessman who thinks that all that is not really fun, there is no brand, I want the place to be good , which also tells me that we can do the best we can, but then who pays for the negotiations and the situations.

Don't do it, for example, now with Geert late at night, I have a lot of James Dean and pay for the screw, that is, in an editorial meeting that day. After a broadcast, I hardly had ears to hear what went wrong, I'm lucky that James Ball became a topic of conversation and the things that happened to someone else's foot and I think I'm not going to do it anyway that, that would be funny and milk doesn't divide you, I would really think so. it's quite the opposite, no, I think Geert is the one who does all the negotiations on behalf of the sidekick that's there in the milk, take it, take it with enthusiasm for fun, that's literally backwards, yes, enlarge the piece, but then They discuss the receipt. well, in front of each other we have to do it and he likes to do that and then he tells him to have a half hour monologue which he is also hot against, he must be crazy, General James, everything has been said now but still He said that the team and we think that he is considered very beautiful, he thinks that it is because of that, I cannot imagine that you are all beautiful and there is because you are very clear in the geography of where that is. , yes, absolutely but I think I have the gift of sending magazines to the people around me, that way I always get what I want in one way or another, in a very subtle way, I think, eh, yeah, I don't.

I don't know, yeah, it's less subtle or you'll see it on TV, but that will be in real life because it's funny because I already think you came in here and you see everything in English. There's a nice word for Jim from Anne come in, are you making it big or hard or that hurt? Actually, email me and you're a nice guest just from there, she's coming now. There is often an image of people not being nice to you, no no, I just know it by trying to fight it. At first I found it and I put one on, it's how the story is what they are when people think you're known there, the action came when I said, I said Sally, yes, no, yes.

I once read something else about you that was about the The second season of my own mind leads me to twin that the morning you would like there to be an arrogance of the Antwerp billionaires that it would be better to keep big billions under control, did you know? that he? I have to say that these are all people, we are strangers how to get money from Nivea yes because yes me but if something like that about your own lists, then you don't feel like having one, but as long as the language no longer bothers me and then yes then yes They feel that you are not doing anything there and that in a way derives from you so they call a kind of Donald Trump come Jeana yes that was also in a gray pain I think the banner or something like that and that too from all the karma see one because they know they don't care about the general views anymore, so a damask there Donald Trump and I go quite like he did and that is that time has grown because the face is no longer there and then the Althaea used to give to the family that always you want everyone to like it you see that you have a beginning and you haven't realized that that is impossible and he and his people can speak a lot of that language and still be frustrated by it or by Vellinga between us, we are depressed because I am too I say, of course. , yes I say it, but I'm not at the right level, you are going to do this and by this I mean you, that person has done a lot of things there, he has been in the spotlight a lot, you too Some high profile people that, for example, they have posted Boekskes' card, the media also think that I would like to spend a very cold night in Flanders, yes, that's fine, really.

You think so, that we have a vague hardening. Lately, amin, without wind, it was very salty, all the relationships I have had have been in the media, so you can trust his actions, so that is not the case, unfortunately, he fell behind according to my management, but what we or the perpetrators are like. what is perceived is not a question of guessing or fun, I, mom, we are also in our profession in those who have done that and who then go through life as saints according to her they answer absolutely or and then Delhi sometimes sometimes frustrating on the other hand I had to think to myself I can't really complain it's the last thing I can do in my life with everything that bothers me everything I've been allowed to do everything with my children that I have and I'm more the last one to complain because someone has to sitting is a bad thing to write or outside or after way of calling perception my imaan we are different from reality go to the bowling alley so that it is scary then it is not the worst thing in your life, yes, then it is not so bad now, but sometimes it's frustrating, but those are just some of those things, especially because you're an IC and because you think why that's always mine, I only go when the people around you eat there and there are the people who come into contact with them the 9 9 percent of the time, so the most important thing is that I can fully enjoy my children while traveling or being with him and his wife with my best friends.

I think it's fantastic and those who know that ceiling with pain and and yes, now we're realizing that it's just people there with their personal kings, they go to the dearest Jameson James is certainly part of that I said he can't handle it, so make sure the program there and we are there for six weeks, 4 days a week and we are together 24 hours a day, if you are not really friends then don't go there, you can't work, that's just colleagues so close to the machine , so yes. is that he is the absolute boyfriend and for the rest and the people who don't care about anyone also a very big piece and then the people who think that you are a child for a long time the people who think that you are a child before I will sing you a song from the sleeve of my own students I notice that I don't have anyone from the time before I was 18, which is actually very strange, Narciso Rodríguez, the environment you think I was in and the people who were there, I think I still work now, he would come more on that, but the loss they have given him is a moment and and Jabon has never had a reunion even once, but that was also 15 years ago but he had healed, I repeat, strange in the army is that it was very typical not in the army, no, no, that we have all already turned off Nietzsche's ECUs, while in their x right and they have their own understanding of each other and therefore a huge bond and in the fall, during the meeting, you see the witch, all my men.

I didn't do anything with those faces because there are common objectives about that common enemy there is no more here and they are all people from there actually yes, it was very watered down and now I actually want you to wait a long time and put it then my husband, people you call friend , I have nothing to do with that because that's also all the people who get on each other's nerves who normally never get together and their school is different because you're already there, yeah, someone who still wants to grab a bite, that's one of the environment than someone who has not previously gone to a technical school, that is, I come together to certain environments, I don't think that is simply stupid, that is also the interesting journey.

I also think it's a shame that people don't have to do that anymore because it will be a very educational year considering that all of those are actually the people who live in our country that we spend a day with, many of them we often never have again contact because otherwise. there is a different class both above and below, so also the radio that the high school period is a shame, primary school is not possible at all, no tank names x5, they no longer record those offers in the class, That's funny because you don't know me from primary school anymore, I no longer remember my job and no one knows me anymore and good luck, but of course you are like that holy air of the sea, well those will be the Royales, the common thread of this. podcast, lucky you, but I think most of the country's day is too pleasant to understand an epic that was in the classroom.

I had tried to find that it's such a generic standard, what I do, so I'm not on Facebook or it's not into anything ethical, actually the youthful Instagram, but I follow very few people and if they think something like that, what's up? with this or a DS and then it's okay? So I probably bought my antique, our is on a safari with your name and you see that. there and most actually find very little return, but a few months ago I really had a traumatic experience. I was always in love with Saskia Dirks in grade school and that was my window piece and I made it and the learning from the first studio and I.

I dug into that and now I can get an obituary and more fun stuff yeah that was there it was really cool yeah I understand it was really hard then to think damn they started around us Darcy busy repeating and yet Maria middle Meanwhile two years we are a I thought oh man and that was very strange, it is really very strange and scary, of those 25 students,how many are there maybe portable transmitters, anime or digital and start to Think about it for themselves, I mainly see that death is something I am very busy with, he clearly thinks about it every day, especially at night in bed and that is not a good thought and bison getting out of those lessons was busy, yes, because in reality you are constantly faced with the fact that as I get older I can no longer do things that you used to appreciate, but no, I am completely in and I see deterioration but I feel that I need my reading glasses and yes, I needed them 10 years ago, yes, Kim now has 57 crowns with a basket attached, the non-technical dharma trap, let's not do it all. when I want to say, we are going to notice the day to surprise, in fact I think that in the path of all communities it hurts like hell to have a hair, but that is the wording of the inevitable in the temporal and yes, that is not a good thought .

I see my father who is 88 years old, after that there is no happy life, so the best is already over, I believe and I see it physically, and that year the door is the feeling and my life only improves in terms of quality, yes , every year around that Hubble did all kinds of things, but for the curved white rest that they inevitably choose and I still hope it doesn't happen, we can't let the suitability die so that they find something else, don't go too fast and not for too many people because then pay close attention, of course, if you do, we have to reach this very expensive degree, something logical, wonderful, egalitarian, fantastic, I will understand, I will find a complete moped that is accessible to everyone except the driven.

Of course it has something to do with real problems in the mineral prosperity tour, let's do it today or tomorrow Adam, I, a man from there, came to visit me thinking about riots and I actually want that takiany album and in your There, what convinced you, here we go, how many billions of meta of solar systems similar to us, where the chicken meat was 2000, they came up with Ruben, so the archer is still something like that and now there were billions that can salar, you will soon be in The stress of the prairie about all this sense and model seems difficult to me, so I think the Indians enter them.

Men are sometimes very smart guys who come to that and if they go down to 10 degrees, then they have all the solutions to all the problems. We have, yes, it will be difficult here if you can do it optimally, you can solve all the energy problems and the 10 billion and them with those colombible planets alone in our galaxy because we are not yet what they are not. even further out in the universe cell a1 a rider convinced that those men who are already here don't you believe that the youth council is competing for tony hermida approximately an hour after his rescue i remember that new arises the mood that touches them can't that have not yet been in the daughter oil standard on the way back probably want those who see us and think that they are not yet high enough on the evolutionary ladder started even hotter considerably fear the wine in the ant corridors in it, you think it would be fun for you to be I'm convinced that I don't think it's a stupid way.

The face that now grows on me and I will understand it, but I think it may actually take years. He sees and of course I think all scientists had a career. 10 years 20 years ago she said she was fed up and believes in aliens now we are going to despise everyone they will say hang up and she said it's all antics that no longer come from people we believe in an invisible man in the air that all the rules at home too They are very funny, really only the staff knows that if Camilla is an astronaut, let's say she would get three targets so faithful that she still lives to settle near me in the diksmuidelaan on that route, but pet it and look for a trip.

Rafael or they know it because we believe in it that it is based on a space space, but the aliens in the year I think they have been doing that for a long time and the theories that that is actually your ordinary god, your evolutionary, the only one and more and certainly those who come here specifically those who have already evolved more and that literally there would even be a kind of half experiment in the sense of everything ball x1 those who come who in us say that men still wanted to die hahahaha like completely a wave of water with oil the nine Colorados began death only how much money 30 years do their slaves grab they are not worried about the money the slope is probably not reluctant to continue ready for it to set from the week they give it to the people will even have the idea that the earth then you will have the first contact with another planet that will then evolve and humans will no longer be poverty or anything on the planet and then you will have time to explore space so that basically the problems on your planet can have solved this, they wonder What will happen tomorrow if those people knew Islam and were Jansen rows really really Jansen rows lian julian I focus today hailea comes and not from comes and not about that we think a lot about some of édith piaf craft and the kuthumi afterwards everything is frank and it is old and we must give credit to the French journalist who claims that the minus 73 is visited on December 13 by someone from another planet and asks him to take notes and mark paths.

They guarantee that the aliens will return to Earth and kill one of those men who live in an apartment in the Richter countries and has been shown 5 times. I swear now I can imagine what the agendas are like and they should have a nice speech if you're like me and they're like those men who will come tomorrow or whatever if there's something we know all the values ​​and I'm talking about gold and patrol and stuff and diamonds what that and the wire around will choose all that just find out what my mouth is, no, now we will be so standardized, something that determines whether you eat or not and whether you feel homesick, that will be erased in one fell swoop and that we are all equal , yeah, we should think about what happens then, so I think it's also possible that you lose the money, I didn't want to call you and remember, yeah, because that's how we live now and the whole data system is some kind of ship and you think If not, it is equally beneficial. for everyone, only you no no, but that equality according to you would be the moment again, maybe if you can move, the rings have decades at a certain point where everything is accessible to everyone at the same time, they are a very strange one, like that which I think is too big for me to understand what the consequences are if you point them out.

Everyone says interest. You have designed several things. Now I'll just save the study. The 100 catalogs will be in a positive way. great impact on many people who use your goal, they even put here in this house in many of them, 100. Is there something to ask about thinking so interested in an order for the positive lyell and tomorrow there will be a lot of experience in which it is to create something in the impact, you get used to seeing it in a population, now we are like aware of the impact on the intestine, you are also very careful with me, some discomfort, but we continue whatever on our knees, we continue, ease of time and then a lot of the gift of much of what was sold in What interests me is that he makes so many of those things, I can name them, come have fun, the Rize' couple started making gnome plop mega mindy piet pirate baptism of buddha is the anubis house that your language pimpa and tl is popular rockers ghosts of america all those kinds of things that are a mega success in themselves all those things that all children do that attract many children or young adolescents and then I think how the grade sees something very bad and/or an idea of ​​what it's like to see your son or my energy teenager Jules Danny suddenly sees it in that too.

I knew the number of that coming and how I trusted it absolutely goes and goes in there and goes ahead yeah the commercial is yeah I don't know yeah you got this feeling so a feeling went away I think yeah that's right and lemon is correct and that is simplified, that is yes. that's right, that's how we see a kind of order in the chaos of such an idea because that's always important to me and that's what I've always done, build blocks in the Middle Ages and not just look for the program of no longer ones few then in the can than in it and that there are many things that will be streamlined and organized in such a way that it is something that contains the basics for everyone and there it is fun to see that which is actually what I like to do and do in the most Caro, we just saw him start to write what he thinks about it, reconsider things now they were in aedes, now you also notice that this is something that you sometimes carry in your head for a while. year and a half and think about it, I already heard that from the writers of those books that remember zen mo, not all men are the ones who say that they are involved in athletics and are at the beginning of a book that in reality they are already I finished with Mia Denys, I've been working on it for years or I've been working on it for two years or five years and that's milk for me too, that's the mature things that we go for and then I look for all the hits, but what he said is that his four gnomes can also be in the mushrooms, it's a shame that you have to spend one year after another, immediately there are two because that's both digging, you do have to have the sea calm very often as a team.

There goes again the art that It is also my service when there is our country because in the meantime there are many people working on ideas and things in Study 100 and not everything comes from me so that is me as the biggest hill for people to do it many times. complicated and 13 that you often realize immediately if your ocean and that kills you you think yeah, yeah, it's a very hot day to let the data flow there like that and there's nothing there and then it's clearer and understandable to do so according to the definition in which you find yourself. a commercial company by definition you have to work for a lot of people there are also things that I tell you it's a great idea but that Jan de area is for a small audience because it is complex or the complicated person I was looking for is specific or today so we shouldn't do it because if a wine fair thinks that only 10,000 tickets are sold but you are and that's already a lot, yeah, then it won't work, then we can't put it on hubble and the location to do something like that outside of the studio 100 had to grow for eight hundred and eight years and I think this is a very good concept and I know it's not for everyone but I can do it too yeah be careful I'm not one to say accomplished look now I have a gnome made at Sams but actually I'm still on the next one.

Everything funny is already in the rain, they are very complex and that is something that I support May Wynn, it is not the case that I am like that. those people who repeat themselves but in reality pinky oh I also read difficult books you are actually my gay children who read only this and that and they are genes no no absolutely no and but it is still said that when you were saved and the record number of The participation in the smarter afternoon has now been cut short and it's a shame, but he actually agreed to you being there because the stories were still possible, although it was still difficult because they took note that the food was actually still good in the heyday of the show and then I think you also said that my life changed at times to a major valley, for example, the perception of things is yes in them.

I used to think the news from Istanbul was about the Nations man. Cup that could sit down for a moment who was mentioned, nah, everyone who is in the broth, that must be the big brain that had an overview of everything and he was the yes and there of course no and I have been there since then It's a photo but that a person is more than we thought more the beech and the attitude tori the smartest person to smile a lot white day in the intelligent mix and that they are also yours that title of the program is completely wrong is the the person with most knowledge in the world, but those are not the smartest people, go with the deer, still, a big grunt, well done to your people, then you will be able to tell that the people there, after an hour, saw a wallpaper absolutely absolute, that's a shame because there's already something like that that I've done with profit and I remember it with great pleasure and I also found that on the door, which was fun to do, especially because the groups are being very, look, no you want to explain.

It is the first time or the second time that it is a little and I think because the irrigation can sound and in the stress less here and there than number two I think about this you can hear but honestly about 5 times claimed in three four five times, In Actually, not much can happen to me anymore and if people are new candidates and they have you stressed because I don't like you the first time, then I sat in heaven and then the shaster says we will be like this some of those intimidating things to those people to Ria La Haya Yoda I'm sure she likes to laugh that the journalist from a GRT comes to the beach Marlies ideal complexion grab it just the other way around Bucky's chains turn white here nothing is the only thing I said was hama hama all kinds of punishment and this news now easy day luxury reversed in people you think they know and everything you said that what nature and we become and you that you have they had then against so I already say I already said a beginning but then I say just xl It's actually surprising if I continue today because yes, now you see a journalist between two, those are people who will payanyway yes yes yes he has patience already in an absolute favorite and then June, those little things, they are not bad, but they continue like this, whitewashed, never thought of, they put a hype on things, like super, the art of war , but it gives perfect rules, only the debts that are funny and then of course it becomes feeling Seeing someone next to you who really looks down on you and as soon as Van Hal, which is but now it's playing to make pop pop pop pop pop and then goes to Asia at the age of 13, he is nice as a survivor, he is also ethical.

The reason for that material can be enjoyable and satisfying, and Studio 100 is very proud of all the parking lessons. This incredible achievement certainly remains something that in children's entertainment should not be overestimated.Essenlaan certainly not, certainly, if you look at all our children, one thing is that we are going up, it became my or reminded me of it and it is the lady who He once told me, when I met Phoebe, then I was ready to be a little known. We went to a radio program together and we know each other in common, so Knee told me from Leicester the go or k3 and I looked her in the eyes a little and then she was no longer in the group, then a maid and she said wait, but goodbye . and my daughter and I laughed haha ​​and I in my later years against the invitation always won a lot because my daughter did, she was crazy about a lot of those things and I had to think about that too if you just go by. 'Neil Stream, people who have a kind of anti-Studio 100 attitude and parents, a certain kind of parents, that's what he says and it makes me more Captain Winokio, for example, because Studio 100 is a complete cynical and completely irresponsible money-making machine in In terms of education, we varnish that seasonal things type yes, I can only say that it is the best we can, we are going to give you a qualitatively real vision of how to do things and I tell you that you are going to study all the things.

K3 texts carefully, we write that Allah, the Lord of the Putts, lie there, that is, the well above average flamenco songs, the entire catalog of Samson and Gert, that is, the very important names written by me, I see the Jewels among them when I see where Robert Long or Ivo De Wijs wrote for us, these are really the best pop pop songs so I think we can be four or that catalog and then I think people sometimes get caught up and then they get swallow something like that. captain winokio friends arjan the little mill respect for jan decleir in a little station drums tuut tuut sing go and eric yes it is that then what we are all waiting for is that then it is forgivable art we are the bar stools we are made by man the whole Jan's clothes so that's fine and we go back to the old nursery rhymes ah accu tuut tuut far away they have and they will write tomorrow they will get divorced they will say rmf they say that there they alone we are going to revive the old nursery rhymes songs the old white nursery rhymes what they learned in the school there was recently a girl that we are all going to sail and light coat but yes light sailor who was on that boat in the van yes yes she had to get on the teacher evil sailors lamanites that was from the mill and yes to Marieke where are you going ten little blacks each a new one to Marieke now go and save take that soldier they are him yes where annemarie I have none to love not once but seven times 7 that is unique in Overijssel the alte must have a mix we sing in kindergarten yes, I'm not saying that it is in the name with van Pinocchio standing and many, but it is not intentional because then we return to things like Peter is or early is absolutely only sometimes it is there in the art of pouring something with the proper treatment and bennet and things like that to take action on people. get mobile swipe I'm happy that we live in a rich country, there is something for everyone, absolutely, but I can put my heart in it with my hand on my heart that all the songs we bookmarked below look good and that lieke who already has epistles the year in which the fawn began not to win the cabin guido official award I understand it very well my daughter laughed a lot about it and for many years the family olé pistolé chalazion also studies and where is the perfect or red in his really beautiful numbers we are very proud and I think it's my tooth time of survivors are yes neo that discussion is always fun every day so I think you and Captain Winokio have more respect for what we do here that now there is someone who is not literally also a very good marketing plan and ideas, he of course has enough with that and commits to completing it. and he says aces exam, but for convenience say yes, so after the cargo bike, parents whose children still play with old wooden toys or the new version we will serve them whatever they want.

I think it looks good too, but that's its weight and I have it so ugly. I knew that people are now looking for a rich man. I realized that especially then I know him in the theater, a nice guy and, but so and so, like a no, never like that one from the CD and books of him. launched and there was a whole Dutch operation from the old 80s, something you like the sound and Egypt and that guy's name is emma ds and in a group he covers the load sk well seen because both children are already thinking of a good song and the moms and parents buy it.

We remember them there was still the youth team that brings much more nostalgia while on a tour day you have many fewer regiments just say no dad something new that I do there I don't have or want or especially I have everything I yes that was something important for us always good, That's a pretty clear difference. I check it anyway, yeah, but okay, I click on the mandem. I never met the gentleman. I just know that he always criticized us very harshly in every interview on January 31, he did, never really. read the microphone, but yes, yes, and in fact personal, no, no, me too, no more, no, maybe indifference and alex no, that's Antwerp, billions of suitors, arrogance is a coke, especially the look of Antwerp, even more wearable, I remember. the tents he had I have to be honest, I was angry, he now puts in a cassette, the lecture turned into glue and lady, disgusting things should be allowed, what one has to say, sometimes he did, apparently we tend to want to see how rich he really is.

He said, yes, that is a very difficult task, of course, hey, because my assets are worth 100 studies, yes, and I have a beautiful white one and I could do without anything other than myself completely. It's lost in studio 100 and yes, there They will approach me and clearly sell and I have no plans to do so at the moment, so yes, that is very real. They will have power in the accent. I'm not, so they are ready to work fervently together and I do everything I want. I want and have a full and rich life but I see amounts of money thinking maybe maybe I don't know it would be very surreal for me actually because I'm okay with that so again that day is completely against perception or the idea that I can say that you said a man that you know exactly what worries people and then instead of saying no, not at all, no, I would probably have to worry a little more about that, no, I think so, I think it's quite refreshing or something, so to have an idea like that about your pigeons, very few people must have it at the same time, no, it's really better that we do more about it, and that's the curious reason why you're very clear and everyone does not misunderstand me because I recognize that it is very difficult for them to have to wear them, so they are clearly the creative ones, they are the ones who can almost say that the closet is wonderful and Hennie, let's see how much money is in your account and that they are going to discount you because if I am not busy with that, no, honestly, where I am not working on that, but I can connect in that aspect, I also want the commercial that if we are now working on an idea, I will see that yala is something that is economically interesting, we can think about things, we will pray today and work on things that we have to be able to do, we have to be able to do the derivative, so yes, program the skin tone of the techni-show in Gabon, then already there is less interest for us, why let me say it again, we are a commercial company, so we have to do the things that I have to do it somehow and dates and not bring it like that, that is just going to be built, that is the I play now, later I will ask questions about you, I will talk about the things that you make yours and that for a large audience is a really a very understandable market for everyone, but Schiedam, for example, I see my muse in the musical CS 40 45, which for you is a little more personal and therefore also heavier and more cornered, yes, but there is something in me very busy at that moment, yes, those of the war and the consequences of it and I am someone who exchanges emails ostalgia together light iesus I also give the thief where books with all the photos of Antwerp and so on the lesson can be easy and I choose that they It used to be so scary, I would be sitting in a flea market singing from I know when I enable 60 70 years gone by yes, everything interests me another kitt fantastic points a few days the important things in an interview mention that they are your grandparents and you were a collaborator in a war, you had a class and that you told your mother a lot that he felt a lot I don't know how people do that to my mom, to my dad, were they bad people or not because I did it that day, yes, we believe I didn't do it, I grew up looking forward to it in a family with something wrong in that past, God has never spoken of that again on the moor, always both and I think it's a shame. now because my mother passed away, my aunt, then my mother's sister was 17 or 18 during a war, so she was much more aware, my mother was five years old when a war ended, so she never consciously experienced that mutual trauma , I think they never knew how we can estimate what their parents kissed and did for a long time while the man is already gone, so in fact everyone from the first source is gone and that is very frustrating because now I see many questions that I should having done it 20 years ago on the cell phone and then not talking about them again, always so true because it was a sensitive topic in the family, yes, yes, so that is a bit secondary for me now. and my mother passed away three years ago now the savior still looks a lot and can ask and and so on and also many questions arise through the musical 13 and that is a little embarrassing yes, but we had a quite strange family because my my grandmother and my grandfather for mother's side they had a bad cafe, a rally in Antwerp became television or that was cafe malpertuus where the vnv in the back left the only club room for members of yes yes actually rewinding in frank yes yes yes that was the worst cafe by far the wrong Antwerp ckv, he and my mother had it, johan raised us, you knew it yourself.

I don't know any difference between the VNV, I was not involved politically at all, but Habonne was a kind of economic choice to be able to make a living, so then the story is always that it is like this, then it is not like that and then 0, but the my grandmother's sister will not fight in Spain in the army 37 against free fall only yes, so that was the full the full name director in so in a family I had the best man that people would be beautiful coffee table in the that you talked about it in the ruins and laughed along the wheels in every year, so yes, what seems like your grandfather would even have been imprisoned or sat stretched out with wax on the great lions if he had thrown himself into so and so from Antwerp is already jos and my him to get excited now I think that seeing the newly lost is free, but Sitting in the middle of the sweet faces is cruel, but he has found a lot when he is chained.

He worked here, okay, yes, there for the four of them, so Meghalaya, yes, yes, in a family, so that was the one who sat at the end so that together they could. exchange the ether, you, him, allez, I don't know how many contributions you listen to, k3 harting texts, maybe, for example, something like from Africa to America, it's so much, I have a lot of songs about tolerance and about mutual acceptance in about all kinds of things here have been their influence on you in the past, are they really or just new parents that you went so radically in the other direction, but it's certainly not that you've become the side, I'll just say now malia trimps from where it is k3 and then I must honestly say that tykwer sees very little among the land a complete policy of the putte to write his account for the rest if not I do not know if that is that you have a war that is there for something sitting between I do not believe it I do not I create moving ties binds an interesting an interesting past for years nothing to be proud of the moonbeam and profession that doesn't matter much either, my mother doesn't care how simple it is either some advice and if you say you like reading those things Wendy , the same and the city of Bruder, things like that that we normally don't miss, so I think sometimes in simplicity, I just found a digit now that those that those iPhones and allow them to be always available are the seven in my head and such maybe not always I don't know what to do maybe the name Inge from the second only Klein Hussein but that's how Meeuw and Otto go and better than you Don't call me anymore yes yes yes there is now Alex has not come yet there is a whole horizon there we will be like calling to all lorac nobody in itselfeven five times higher you still see remaining tanks yes, but I'm not talking about the fiery one you take and then you have what do I mean?

I took the audio from my friends leo de lion absolutely we still had record players come on even if that's an alec to tell yes yes I had all the ads it doesn't depend on your current within fifteen minutes or hands for her that in a him like that back they were naked and logical again from a phone just its own place in the fury and there's that river and if you've been researching for a long time family and in the top corner of my phone then I could hear so sometimes we have the long cable to a phone already it was very special if the gondola variety show had added value libya came with fixed steel there was also a newly issued call to say no because there were many things, we were also full of the reported race 5 long i can meet and call on the phone is that was uh h and now that's all like that and everyone was thinking about everything and everything everywhere there is an abundance of omnivorous massages the silliest things first and he four weeks ago I've been alive touching things that a block of ice could break and that and you see that the level 6 meters was going up everything could happen and then I will go there for real Sometimes we have a problem at 6 meters and it was there where there were poles in the mountains of point B, the steam and the arch point could break in six meters and it became rigid and I still think that yes, that is because of a pressure point in a newscast descends we have to have all hands on deck I would like to participate, that whole message disappeared I don't have anything rotation time number so I think so and I find out that no, that's a great situation, control and he won't make it see tomorrow If you have that, we continue, yes, it hasn't been proven, then you hear that it's all disturbing, yes, you too, see, it's very well said about it because from time to time he dares to express an opinion about it, someone who always does it in a pretty cool way is allowed to do something, this was said for example about Zwarte Piet Waikiki, I really liked that they gave him some time, but these will stigmatize people. sit down, nowadays it's like that for everything, for many things where I'm made of extremist or vasa substances and then conservatives or something like that, if you still say all bol van spilbeeck, about the people who at that time, but everyone does what What do they do, we don't have any navy purple, screw it later, so you're fine if you're the lucky one.

I think it's great, but when I say God, I think I go there and Beecher, ah, that's enough. being put in a certain corner and marginalized there because you I can't think about it anymore and my own mother thinks everything is normal for a 3 and that worries me a little too. I'm not looking forward to the neutral bathrooms, I'm not looking forward to these standards, only if I find myself there again in the dunes. It stigmatizes a certain group of people who have been pushed into that crazy corner, but I think a percentage of people see themselves waiting and none of those channels would be readers and happy as long as the hallway remains what they think is strange, waiting for our bits. to say very seriously, yes, now I have to say what you want to say, see growth, we continue. against a true fight and mine that was about transgender people and about men who become women's stories, but even if I said that about men who become women than those who want to voluntarily expose you to those hormones, I don't understand that yes, the glasses want us to keep them away from them and the gurgling of the seeds can hurt and I just had to laugh at that fact, in fact the opinion of most people are the opinions that are not heard, these are the people that do not they worry.

Not with that, but yes, those are the people who see what is happening in America, they start with in-voice coaching and say 8 now let's see, let's see if yes because that phrase lasted in a certain corner and they said okay so they stopped at that corner, then I would rather take out cookies myself, we, the people of Blijdorp, yes, and then smaller, then it is very dangerous because it happened and if your people still stigmatize the perception, the families are already becoming racist and they are not worried only that. now with that heavy carnival that question those days later also as if jemmink yes and that region the float where it is very funny it turned out that later the dolls were already used or yes yes yes why is it something like a crusader phase that they give you a different grade to the families each year and then your block asked you, you should be a little this also has to do with tolerance just that so they preached to me on that a lot that was so quickly condemned and yes, that is sometimes a little The strange thing is that, in fact, tomorrow is a growing problem, oneself felt very, very quickly that you and almost restarted in the carnival of courtship, which also thinks that they are clearly in a humorous context, unless that they are already somewhere at a certain point and I choose to be offended and then where many people I choose to be offended, you don't see those who say yes, there must be now that we can or join together to be safe, we will murder them.

Yes, that's it, then. It seems to me that I am in my profession, what happens, of course, there will be people who say terrain in a lesson but no, those were images that the Nazis used, so I think so, but that was with the carnival parade 10 as Tenniel, a float, began the To put it mildly, we should be mouth next year we are going to give a lot of money to our umpteenth in the region, my entire buttocks, so if you are in the United States, go there, I did it, of course I understand. Myself, an email from Black Petes to people abroad during the year and I don't understand it, I already have data in the data or something is wrong, I agree with that, everyone understands it, but damn it I said that.

It's time people look better too suddenly the word 'nigger' is also something like angelina when I was a child a black person was a point 9 but suddenly three say motor contractor now take a quick look and it's true that already It's not necessary there because there is never someone who is 30. Nobody already explained to me how the only thing that happens is if someone who uses it immediately gets shit for hours because of all that, a whole that gives light to the west without any bad intention or with a racist motive and that, if possible, is not yet a human time, that explains it well and besides, white people should not say more about how crazy they were when I told you, so it started with me, that's how I think okay and because that is colonial and that is something that comes from the colonial era, how the face of the words would imply purity and freedom of color and then they think that that type of racial purity and see if that is the connotation that that has been given and the funny thing is I do 8 pity I really thought no one would ever participate in that I don't like the white people mentioned I actually think it's crazy or you hate it but I think I once made a plea earlier in the program for the word 9.

Got it. I've said it enough, of course. I say it. I haven't seen it anymore. I just felt like it's too sensitive and I don't think you've ever seen it. think about hurting people that's okay again I want to do it, but I really didn't like the word black or anything much more, I don't want johan, that's why the word is the same minutes, you think you indicate it very difficult and that's why that you almost don't want to start with iseren. To create more boxes and push them, I find it difficult, but that's good, that in the past everything was simpler, but it also goes according to the fact. that there are many things to say nowadays, you have to think about it and turn it around ten times, he says something suspiciously and that sometimes is team in this something we that you in your your entertainment in the things that are also taken into account by of course, but I also want to be as correct as possible, but yes, but I also understand that people when they evolve and and that this for some people does not need more time and related people because history has an example of him now to whom.

Be my example then a song no images of gnome plop it used to be true that everyone is painted as black as Africans I think one and until when there is nothing against it, yes, but then there will be that it could be that it would be said retroactively because that's how it is how the issues are happening now 0 Kevin Hart does not present the as a cherry and it is captured in some tweets on that date 10 years ago and James Gunn, the director of Guardians of the Galaxy, made some strange tweets about ten or fifteen years ago, which has softened the feeling that they won't lose a director's chair for that movie, but they will see something like that first.

I have the impression that it is not possible for that video, whereas when NASA released that, no one complained about a problem or many things. I watched a wooden children's show from 30 years ago that revolved around a lot of stereotypical natural things, so yes, that evolves, but I don't think there are that many things. to be found with us on the bench I suppose it is just a woman there even that is not at all it must be said that you are not a reproach or an accusation and a lesson and a half is more just an idea of ​​the things that the and there that you no longer put things in context where I work also very very annoying of course where things used to be the mentality was also completely different people calculate things in a different way that is to say and someone is now somewhat bothered by the fact that it made them 40 years or thirty years or twenty years when here is more you must also see arias looked at my parents how they have seen the world change that is incredible in the desire of the people a great flexibility he the first capable Chinese yes better 50 eh yes , we mixed, it faded into a still pme, whatever came to the language, almost the parents have the spaghetti, the spaghetti, the was a and and the human porcelain, yes, the Italians can go, they had them, if you want to say, Then they went to cook exotic food, sing spaghetti, sometimes we can. come here for what those people have known before and you see an apple and a pear and an apple then but that stumble star anise sings your teachings nuclide thought of bambi then everyone has to come and he everyone adapts to his goal Jorissen hema but shared only technically if my beans, which after 40 years have returned, do not have hems, shoot driving and licking initially because to a crazy van was from luc appermont between hall a lot of shipping about the revelation and that 100 if I want to say it is mind, mind and the record.

Again, people have to understand that people who change too quickly are satisfied, also on a cultural level, there is an understandable Danish, well, I think it was underestimated a little, a lot of human chemistry technology at least, the king, the middle kobe, yes, close to fikri miles. In a row that part, yes, there's a bit of an iPhone universe mentality and he's just around, but it doesn't take long, especially, but she looks around in her 25 minutes, an exhausted Thorsen and a shrimp arrive to the region. by It's very sad to say but I rolled I needed to be able to laugh I say experienced piano equipment with a I'm so you don't have that but of course people want to flood me so much in the weeds comes here a thud, confess what's happening there, the children They also see, you ask the children, we want the brand of the weapon, the feeling that it is reasonably balanced and yes, Napel, but when we address the data, the ship took two children hostage and they are no longer strangers and we have Ya We have done things ourselves, we also have them walking in the spotlight and eating, we try to avoid them, God, they are shielded in a way, but I have kept them out of here for a long time, the media did it. things fill up 18 but a photo or two three is an age appeared for once upon a time one the fittie from the premiere never came home photos or those posed family photos there will be because the vermeien are clear if I have chosen to learn they are not in the media, so I can't drag them into this and now of course they are at the age where they can choose to do that and they have both chosen a Japanese brand and still do something in that direction and that's completely, they chose me myself.

I didn't fit you or scare you or something, they are old and wise enough to decide what they want, of course it's a great thing, I've always seen how things work there. impressed by the attention that they now have and they know that they have to deal with it, I think they are very good at it, if of course you never knew anything else in our house than me, of course, I had that interest and I those books. are like that, so the vouchers so both are an advantage, I think that was something that we there when the bus when she said she was going to take action and take things in that direction with you tends to say I can tell you something, give you some advice or see how it works purely if they know they need to thank the pen, but then I could impose, I think they actually do it very wisely and very well, yes, but Apple can see within three once they are different, yes, they still are . young yes because mary participated to see one of her singers we sucked lines of code as a father now a little dead let's see you see glasses then there was one that she made to have a few drinks among other ADHD so natalia still has to endure something like that.

It doesn't go well that's not fun when the day comes then you want the name on the brochure of a dolphin person arewomen who don't like it either I think no that is yes that is no no now I thought it was nice that she was there, partly because there is a way to zone Monsieur's shot, she needed to take action and that was a good motivation, She knew that after so many weeks I was in that ring so she had to do something, so she started working out really hard and doing it. in that sense it's great, but then the one that's in that box, do it yourself, that's not nice to see, it's already sitting, it's going to be live, you can already see billions and it's so bumpy that nothing grows, something wants the comment to reach the top in you that you see a new bag in you just want you to throw down those years to Nathalie, really fisherman and a bucket, do you avoid throwing sick children in it?

Yes, now is the day. It is unlikely that you will occasionally resort to the ideas you have acquired, a little embarrassed by the thought that comes to mind tomorrow, you just fill in the i maybe not in blue and what a relief the lessons test has been done you knew to the extent that you also Unfortunately, it's been earned, but then you have to do it right all that time, that's a beautiful sound, he said, it's, it's happy enough for yeah, ah, no, in itself it was an experience exciting and fun and also for her, that's it, that's how those studies and experience were, but I don't have a single father watching me, I imagine it on paper, I have my daughter who knows how to ride your horse and also sees the disadvantages and such.

The bills scare me separately. Well, everything is for Italy. The signal is based on the daughter's face. You can start with what I mean as an example. There is style immediately. Nothing compares in I digitally around the saw and does not fall off the piece. above and much less the diesel, it would come paired. I can join, but fight or something, we are already shooting, we are big mma fans, but I don't think we want to see our daughters doing that, no, I would do it too. Lisa and zn are already there. the will of that will always continue to arise in your head natalia look at the ewwwwww whoever you come here natalia who came and left mainly for a but also gave up the wind maryse I think I'm going to be able to see myself like that in someone's face while as I say , just wait until the day and because how you dress while in this the first with cream and then there were no ordinary murders after the friend sees, they during the day ever did it, you will be involved in fights, you will never notice Now they sent me 20 years ago, they asked me that and boxing stared at me.

I think I did that, also just the physical challenge and the fact that you're forced to do it because he could play sports and they, but I never fought, no, I also avoid conflict. No, no, because I always find it very comforting to have found you, it's just that you see the horror on television, certainly the day before, and more and more the leadership is people who have that down-to-earth attitude. I think it's huge, it's reflected in the golden van Geert where I find something amazing no one always finds something between you and yeah what we call blocks so we really put everything in perspective but I'm sorry that's how she deals so yeah .

It's really a hundred cents for me and that's not always pleasant and sometimes problematic, you also have to be able to agree with something, which is a down-to-earth thing, which is rarely the case for me. If so, I put things into perspective a lot of times, it's also about being what is. Margrieta is little on television here. This is below, it's better to know who's looking at me how many people are there who wouldn't be sober or sober on camera, but For your camera to show up, then play exactly my role on television. They come with single women and all the few blessings are certain.

You had to leave the series. We are right. They have the knife provided, powerful, that we do not. do it for everyone, you care about your mom, you have it and we want everyone to take it and now we are even on television it is something that we are simply the last oaks, big brother, the rich oath so that the revolution was brought to everyone in one kind of politics in television mode as well. and it's a nice last break that you can also let go of and yeah, well, you see a lot more things happening on television that people are used to, that they're used to as well and they're no longer jumping into some kind of TV character role of the presenter or guy.

The type of show that is made is much more natural than when I host Dancing with the Stars, they are more of a kind of host because then you also have the role of keeping everything in the right direction and bae bae bae bae bae bae bae bae bae bae bae bae the program is their afternoon their point and that was something they only started with the older brother they should have all the programs there on the floor for them in iseo those things came from the bag in the us that those people just the fake ones enter who they get and there are double button television figures who could not or would never have gotten a job and now they fit perfectly into the new type of Pvda, there is already a new one on today's television, yes, you can hear it too with languages. your use of language it is also seen that in England also with the same evolution more reality shows that people who used to be on the BBC have not been on the BBC in a thousand years ended with my accent ah now after that now the importance The requirement is that you speak that kind of local sausage dialect and then they proved to be able to hunt better, period yes, to be able to express it better and to be much more recognizable to many viewers because the language that we speak on television. 20 years ago it was a language that no one spoke except on television and the language of television and people said yes and then you also see it when you watch street interviews from 30 or 40 years ago in an era that passes and that's how it becomes the complete cultivation succeeds and learns a kind of Dutch like calculus when that and gets more come and that's where that explosion existed and then India is a relief now and also because of something like that fashionable a voiceover yes and bob van ball of the On the other hand, I think it should still be possible in Dutch and there are situations where I think it still looks good, you should still be able to do it and then our pity is that some people just can't have it.

They grow it back with a pickaxe, I dropped it by surprise, but people still have to be able to speak Dutch through a bag, but that's really a big difference, they actually suggest you become Samson along with AD. and then becoming a broadcaster that was actually it wasn't overnight there was already a plan for the year when we hear from you I want I want it to be my first steps and I want to go somewhere specific I always want to become a producer as well as a producer of theater as a television producer and that was successful, actually a phone call by a strange route because when I started I never thought I wanted to do something for children as a hobby, so that's where I started recording the way and then through dwg ball still comes to that, I actually lost being a presenter when I was a child who didn't have we saw Holland those great programs mimei Willem raende as if he printed Ron Brandsteder all those men on that blog that we wanted to do yes, yes there is a cat sometimes there is quite a bit because that is not my case, it was for example an actor or a singer or you put devil gomorrah on them that something like raised in language yes yes absolutely yes cute more daring and then I tried to do a curators with the survey to actually enter in retrospect Since growth like dart until then it had not been my thing at all mobile at that moment I realized that it was not and at that moment it would have been more related to the studies that you were doing in that direction than television or the world of entertainment they could boost, but in retrospect, it's a blessing that then I like beldibi and who he was, yes, but you have that every night there as an example, everyone says that the less risk has been a very good story that I'm also bad but that I have already told enough in other others say men who in fact heard that everyone needs to go to bed naked to go to bed during the day in the laundry do not seduce, not that knowledge what sinuous rights are ni yes another illness of greater pressure the sea and I am there he had not yet escaped from your books and and in the successful standards franci them in amusement parks and and I only think about what I feel for him, especially put how you start there already Anna sells you Grift Park and that is alec the cut that is the for you let me tell you before said if there is of the abyss in this time to start making your excuse and put my thing sewage to put ellen strip there is still before you an attraction your face has already lost so much money that you don't really do it my son has a closed garden of the BBC in our case a my park about the mentioned one they are in serious trouble meli park güell ready for everything years and yes, then we start with something, yes, we have paid for a fraction of what is actually in c per material and hours of work, the new artists end up being mobile, you pay the economic value of something like that, henny, the real value, so there must be objectives of it is no longer so critical that it is not marja marja that you buy that and think why we go to our own family amusement park, it was a mistake because we thought okay, how was that then in September in April to open again and people I thought we were a new type of Disney that would have created the country of Flanders and that, of course, was not possible, so for the first three years it was a very possible matter and I actually took on my task as Alec, so that was a very difficult matter, but it saved us until the end of the year.

Now you see the point that we now have six parks in one in Germany, one in the Netherlands, Hasselt, pots, that is, Wendy's, us, things that from time to time, they and now that's easy means putting it in a certain level organize by day that you can expand more easily and now look around there is still portini time on the market there are still parks for sale but those first years it is very possible that that was also my business that we do not know is that it is that simple I don't have the tendency to start with fact there were 12 others that and also recommend my childhood dream yes I used to play at home in an amusement park skip hennie no longer lettuce small lettuce because when the year comes to decide if you can make a drawing, he was often out of place where I played with Star Wars and Masters of the Universe and was there beyond, I have to ski in some Middle Ages amusement park or at home. and then sort of, that was really the childhood dream, yeah, and how did I feel in my boat the first time I saw Plopsaland?

It started and luck, that's why the entrance without Daniels there were many guests who sat on that train he was driving. roads that were very quiet and the 100 meters so he traveled I just want to get into a very deep well then so monu didn't say that's that's a satisfaction when you walk now I'm super fast celebrating the path we took I realized there or the memory He drives 500 km with her in Germany and the balloon figures are in the windmill and that is, of course, that yes, no, he said he had to continue there. I imagine a round, smooth Seranoham Monaghan, him going over her, perhaps neon recently. a little petty too strong reproach that question is but it's you I think I wonder from someone who reaches out if he does it during the explanation, no, we're going to do it and that's on the listener, we can only spend another half hour In short, 90% I think is also very successful, what can we wish for now or what?

Think about going for yourself in the I've never had a sheet metal wagon teak feeling, but everything wants you to achieve it or white. or hurt you don't like that now I have been in Paris with my wife for three days I am sad fantastic every day I have been very happy I have tried there is one, so they say the crows try to be happy and yes get up and and in and still be able to do those things the faces of now I like to do that then I like it and now I'm still there to protect so much milk from things that I don't like to do, but I know that it can be little things on the chin that can mean a dinner in that town with such and such which people who like to see it, we are no longer running to make money there, but in reality that is never called because and the people of faith and I really should never worry about making so many beautiful things that are dug being happy being happy being able to create things that 40 45 I have created a very big part with that which is very fun to do, now we are working on new things. that her husband must be over 40 45 19 there is already a tip of the veil, you can't let anyone hear or say anything about spending a day in that, now it's your turn it started today it was in the faces of We went down where there are none and we are working on the musical about King Baudouin with a very boring theme leak, but then we have found a very nice angle and it will be more of a chronicle of a country's penny of a kind of history and of our country's reported aspects highlights and lowlights of our country that are in our collective memory, but based on the life of King Baths, a peak can become a peak, they intend to say that within a few years that is a pariah because within others we are now in and that is also the case in Almere, a kind ofpuppet theater or a theater that you yourself have renovated especially there, your expectations may be low 4045 of course high, try to overcome that little thing you launched a while ago.

If you women still want to have children you could start going there again, would we still see them and would we still see my wife and not see her anymore? So that's not a problem. Officially stress. Valera. Learning problems. Yes. His name. they are children, not expressly and she is amazing how similar my own children are and in that sense Arjan, that is fantastic so take it, if it had been like that I would have started there without any problem and then gone back to the frying pan for Things like this are happening now, Gert Verhulst Mercedes and I very quickly finished the sand and yes, come sit on your boat ride, say it now officially on the podcast, so you already got cut and here and Jenny, Jenny, Jenny They just cut Don.

Don't mix unless possible, so absolutely not at least more CDs. Here is Gert Jan Andries, as always, my partner in everything and I, as always, was Alex Agnew. This was welcome next time, Beatrice, the first step and the red recovery, so we are. babbling, dying, every agreement with a particular organization is pure coincidence