First Take reacts to Russell Westbrook breaking Oscar Robertson's triple-double record

Where does Rust rank among all-time point guards? Well he's not in the top three, that's ridiculous, he doesn't listen. He is Russell Westbrook, the third best point guard today because no one is going to

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him over Steph or James Harden, and Westbrook is my favorite player. Telling you I'd pay to see Westbrook before anyone else, but no one will

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them before Steph and James Harden. It's not even his fault, it's because he doesn't shoot very well and does everything else very well, but in the modern game. you have to be able to shoot, look when you hear Scott Brooks say it, you shouldn't just take it with a grain of salt, you need a whole salt shaker, right, he's his two-time coach, of course he's going to make his friend better, of course Yeah. it's but it's

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look the real answer to the greatest point guard of all time is lebron james oh no he's a forward yes he runs your offense he's your main ball handler he's your playmaker because of the way he can protect the another point guard team even if it's derrick rose in his best season right that's the real answer but if you want to take it and dodge it it's all kinds of forwards there are still even today steph and james harden let alone all time because every era has several guys like that guy, you want a guy that won championships, isaiah thomas won championships, you want guys that gave crazy assists, this one gave a crazy assist, that one put up those numbers, this one made deep runs in the playoffs, I mean Call Westbrook third or second best because it's a

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streak you know what it reminds me of guys Pete Rose has the hitting streak and by the way he should be in the hall of fame and the hitting streak means which was great, just like This

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streak means that Westbrook is great, but it doesn't mean that he is the best of all time or that he is in the top three at his position, it simply means that he is a great player who achieved an achievement incredible and we should applaud it without falling into hyperbole when talking about it.

Aside from the magic, he is the greatest point guard of all time, yes maximum, I am with you 100 percent on that and to comment on Scott Brooks' statement about him being the second best point guard of all time, yes that's the truth, if it's a fact, then Scott Brooks. has some kind of accusation against you as a head coach because you had him and kevin durant for seven seasons in okc and you couldn't get out of the west just once and not to mention you also had james harden for three of those seasons, but that It's an aside when you look at the all time greats at the point guard position I just can't put Russell Westbrook in the top two I think you can argue he's probably outside the top five if you just look at the career list of doubles triples the top five on that list

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magic johnson jason kidd lebron james you won't put him above any of those guys you won't put him above any of those guys and then max you mentioned this steph curry and james harden currently, like this I feel like we got a little carried away when we started talking about Russell Westbrook's place among the greats at that position because people fall in love with the triple-double as a statistic, no disrespect to Russ, it's hell.

It is an achievement, the fact that he has been able to do it four of the last five years is a testament to his effort, his energy, his intensity and his mentality, that is worth applauding, but he is not one of the two best point guards all the time. time. Stop that big profit, this is what I need from you. I need a list, give me your top five here right now and where Russ ranks well

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, Molly, can you repeat the question? When Max started talking, I tuned him out and then the cancer doubled. I also unplugged it, so I'm going to refresh my mind and collect my thoughts because, of course, that was just ridiculous and I have to say that in honor of Stephen.

I mean, here's the top five. Here is my top five list of all time. you have magic johnson at number one, okay, you have isaiah thomas, the greatest little man in my opinion, at number two, you have stephen curry at number three, a generation of talent, a point guard who changed the game of basketball, at number four you have

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, okay, russell westbrook we are not going to sit down here and play triple doubles and today I jumped in a second and at number five we have chris paul cp3, the definitive general floyd, the guy that is cultivated, okay now that you are talking about russell westbrook and why I make him in the top five, name someone to replace him and I will argue with you right now and tell you why you are wrong, okay, and when you leave the Brooke's statement, he was not wrong when he said that Russell Westbrook is among the best. of them because apart from the fact that scott brooks was a coach and trained russell westbrook, uh, for two and two with two organizations, guess what, scott brooks was also a player, well, scott brooks also played with the greats of all time, he also played, he played with charles barkley, he played with king elijah won, he won championships, he was in areas where there were other greats that played so he knows how to reevaluate the score and one thing we all know about scott brooks is that scott brooks doesn't say a lot in the media, it rarely hits.

I don't know anything about anyone and when we talk about Brody, right, we're talking about a guy who dominates, okay, and I know some people might try to argue, well, you're going like John Stockton, don't give me that John. stockton nonsense russell westbrook had 21 assists last night without bradley bill could you replace john stockton with russell westbrook last night and tell me john stock yeah james martin with the staff james book had last night john stockton would have finished this game. last night with bert johns and robin lopez i think if you want to say that me and westbrook took everyone except magic, say that lebron doesn't count, he's not really a point, whatever people want to say and you want to say that westbrook fits with the other great point guards who never won a championship eg steve nash, jason kidd, chris paul, you want to argue about where they rank john stockton, where they rank next to each other, you can make arguments on both sides, I'm saying that there are some Friends, they are going to lose the argument to James Harden.

My whole problem with Harden is that he hasn't made much progress in the playoffs, but neither has Westbrook and year after year Harden is a more valuable player, he has more commercial value. his team where he goes shows it every year even in brooklyn they don't win without him even when they have k.d and kyrie they have been playing together in the same league since hardin left okc in most of those years there have been a couple where i think that westbrook has been better than harden thanks for watching espn on youtube to watch live sports and premium content subscribe to espn plus