Cold 187um on Public Enemy's "It Takes A Nation Of Millions To Hold Us Back" | BEST ALBUMS

What's up, all the pain creators here in single access? And today, for our

best

albums

episode, we're joined by Col 187, also known as a big hug since I was little coming, Mr. mm, you know, I always loved the opportunity to hang out with my partner, yeah, man, we. Gotta do it, this man and Big Hutch have selected one of the greatest

albums

in rap history and possibly music history. Public Enemy. It

takes

a

nation

of

millions

to stop us. One of my favorite albums and I think one of the

best

rap albums of all time. The albums are definitely probably in the top five not number one Hutch this album came out in 1988 Public Enemy's second album so I know you're a big Obama fan too watch the show yeah so To begin with, it

takes

a

nation

of

millions

to sustain us.

What did we think or what were your expectations for the south? Oh yeah, that's my favorite Public Enemy album. I chose it because, as you know, rubbing with our paws was like that was my main theme

back

then and that was the transition. on that record, well, man, it influenced me a lot, I mean, I would say certain people changed my life. My focus on making music is that I am Italian. I grew up as a musician, so you know with the instrumentation of what he was doing. The content they were making was so edgy and well, it was still hardcore.

I was on the streets with a lot of weight at that time. 88 I hit the streets very loud, you know, I heard someone for the first time that the LP went up directly with them, there you go. yeah, yeah, yeah, and it really showed me that you know hardcore and the artistic value that I think PE had on that record made me see rap as something broader, you know, instead of like you know, because I think that in that then. it was more like bragging and bragging and it wasn't really a lot of substance, it was more like the emcee and then Chuck D was like a big emcee who talked about a lot of things and talked about Farrakhan and all that.

What's that? Do you want to investigate? Wasn't it informative as well as accomplishing? I think it was the best thing about that album overall, you know? Because it's hard to do that as a hip-hop artist and it taught me. how to create music from that perspective, so bring in the noise, obviously, mention a column just there and that song has so much energy and the sirens and the problem that's happening with that so sonically was bringing in the noise, which made it so powerful. just how it draws you in and grabs you, you know really because that's a PE, that kind of record had that kind of hypnotic vibe, a lot once you get into Chuck's voice and the noises around him, it was really hypnotic, you know , but it wasn't annoying, you know, kind of, in some cases you think, oh yeah, you know, it would be annoying and they could handle that record, they could do that, you know, if we go

back

to that.

The first worker who drove it was like that because I like that record a lot more because of the content that it was, but when I heard that record I was like, wow, this is the next level or everything is fine, so yeah. with the noises and the new Sonics that they were making at the time that had never been heard before, everything was kind of booming, it wasn't really mentally healthy and you know it even went in one direction or another, or it was like lyrical rhythms in it , so they ramped up that fusion to where it was like something crazy and loud with Chuck's voice, it was like everything fit together and the flavor was going great, so everything fit together like something really really solid and then a

cold

label.

A lot of the flavors on this album would also like to know where you got a killer, a fighter, or above the law, so with that record, how did you take from Flavor Flav to make a murder rap? How did that end up happening? They are two things that we use. to create memory we use the knowledge of Blacula, okay, he was a brother like Miguel Weld and then you know, now I have a murder rap, some collaboration, okay, but what you know is that when I started making hip hop records, You know I was very influenced.

When they did it, I thought, you know, it's loud, it's like some things, so let's try to put that in there at the time, you know, everyone was like, you know, DJ slash making music. I was a slash musician. It was really clicking. DJs and we listened to a lot of records and it may have made sense to us because they were one of ours, you know, they were on our main playlist, you know, we were making 1 million less G on a piece of my man, I AMG. we wrote murder rap, we just imagined it as a PE record, but for us, if you know, because we were very influenced by them in developing that sound, it was all you know because, like I said, you know at the time, you know that It was too much.

On our playlist there wasn't a ton of West Coast records, but a lot of the stuff was old school music or what was happening currently, which influenced you a lot, uh, it was the East Coast era , you know, so yeah. that was definitely the reason we added that because it was on our playlist maybe once or twice and then with a black still in our cast that song I remember one that was right when I was reading the song titles on the album, I thought man, this is a super long title, what does this mean? Then you go in and you listen to it and it's exactly about a prison break and that's why you know as a fan, as a black man, as someone listening to this, what did you think? when you hear rappers talk about escaping from prison, oh man, you know that bar over there was, like I said before, it was the part that was like, "Okay, they're a group that can entertain you and tell you something that could happen and because". and he even brought politics into this as if he would rather go to jail than go to the army.

I'd rather do this than not do it and if I have to do it and if you try to

hold

me back long enough, I'd rather break down. get out of here than live in this hell, you know? That's what I think was the brightest part of all those things that happened around that time and with that record was that you know that's how the cats and their mental state probably felt when you know what you did wrong? Accuse falsely or you stand up even if it means you will go to that hell for what you believe.

I think that's the brilliance of Chuck, but at the same time I was entertained, it wasn't like, oh, I went. I went to school to sleep because his talk was very deep or something like that and that was great about that black record in his big video. It also kicks off a great night of Living Bass Head videos. Oh my god, that's probably one of the best rap videos. of all time, pretty funny, too hilarious actually, shout out to Chris Thomas Mara, absolute and MC Lyte, that's fine too, and Africa boom, the cooking pot will say it's a big suspicion, but with this song it What I thought was so amazing is that you have this. group that has super high energy and all that, but then it's an anti-drug song mixed with all that, but it doesn't sound cheesy or flowery or preachy, so artistically, how were you able to appreciate, analyze and enjoy that well?

That tripped me up because I was rushing at the time, you know, but I liked the record because exactly then I think the good thing about them was that they were able to make their point but not offend, they were capable. to do physical education he was always able to express his point of view and not offend, I liked it, but it didn't offend me. Yeah, you know, in a sense, this is the flip side of what you get when you get things from the drug game, but it all depends. because for some people I think in some people's world that we look at we don't look at the other side of everything, so it shows you the other side, like, okay, you know, the cat in the big benzo and the big chain. . but that's what the other side looks like, it's what the inside of the crack world is, you know, and I was at Deming and it was bad on both ends, it was bad, the fact that really I, as a dealer, was He was a basic head and at the base it was because I'm addicted to money and I don't really care what the other side is, but he showed the people in the world that the other side is, you know, not everything is wood, I don't know. it's about just I like, I like that record because it's really about when your artist talks about the whole spectrum, yeah, so looking back now at the legacy of this album, why do you think it's the best album?

Oh, just for that, I think. is repeated in many notes it's about pop, you know, about empowering yourself, it's about having fun, it's about laughing, it's about talking about what's real in your everyday life, you know, it's about lifting yourself up When you don't, you really feel strongly about it and it's about evaluating yourself. but at the same time it is very, very entertaining, he was there very entertaining and that is the art. I think the biggest part of art is that if you can do that, then people will really love you and it shocks me how old that is. there 988, yeah, so I'm going to paint over the years exactly, so I think that was the most important part of it, is that it entertained me as well as enlightened me.

There's Rael, which is like the best album released in '87, aka A Big Hug from Above, the Law, those albums, Public Enemy, it takes a nation of millions to stop us.