Tucker Carlson tells Joe Rogan that evolution is fake

Evolution is real and if this constant exists, I don't know, but it is visible, as if you can measure it in certain animals, you can measure adaptation, yes, but there is no evidence that the EV, in fact, I think that we we have surrendered the idea Evolution Speaker 1: Tucker Carlson confidently told podcaster Joe Rogan. Evolution has been discredited. Darwinian

evolution

by natural selection has been discredited. This is getting very bad. We have a couple of clips from this completely outlandish interview that Tucker Carlson did with Joe Rogan. Tomorrow we will see another of them. But today the topic is

evolution

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Let's listen to this. And there's a lot to go through here. I don't want to just play the entire clip and then give everyone, you know, a wall of text. Let's go through it piece by piece. All the things Tucker says are totally false. Speaker 7: He cares about you. You are important to people. But yes when you think, if we don't. Speaker 6: We think people are important, so what do we think is important? I guess that's what I'm saying. Speaker 7: It's not necessarily that we don't think people are important, but if the evolution is real and if there is a constant, I don't know.

But it is visible, as if it could be measured in certain animals. Speaker 6: Adaptation can be measured. Yes. But there is no evidence of that. In fact, I think we have abandoned the idea of ​​evolution, the theory of evolution as Darwin articulated it. It's like it's not true. Speaker 1: Okay. He says Darwinian evolution is not true. Darwinian evolution has not been proven false. It has become more accurate over time as we get new scientific evidence. Our knowledge of genetics has better defined how traits are inherited and selected for. Modern evolutionary biology includes a lot of different evidence, which we'll get to, but Darwinian evolution has not been discredited.

Speaker 7: In what sense? Speaker 6: Well, in the most basic sense, the idea that, you know, all life arose from a single-celled organism and over time there would be a fossil record of that. And there is not. Speaker 7: There are no fossil records of species in transition, like species that are adapting to their environment, tons of. Speaker 6: Recorded adaptation. And you see it in your own life. I mean, I have a lot of dogs. I see adaptation in dogs, you know, through the shore, through the trash thrown out. But no, there is no evidence whatsoever that any zero, you know, people evolved smoothly from a single cell.

Amoeba. No, there is not. Speaker 1: Now, the word perfect is doing a lot of work there. So let's talk a little. And everything you say here is wrong. I mean, everything is wrong. Modern evolutionary biology includes a lot of different types of evidence. We have fossil records from several areas. We have genetic studies. All of this confirms or expands Darwin's original ideas. And the concept of Darwinian evolution by natural selection is completely accepted in the scientific community. Now he talks about how we don't really have transitional species. We have adaptation. And this is a classic of these people.

They love to say that we have no evidence of transitional species, that is, intermediate forms between each set of species. And usually when someone like Tucker says this, people who don't think about these things well. So, yeah, you know, we don't really like where the middle mark is between the amoeba and the tadpole, or where the middle mark is between the monkey and Homo sapiens. But this is a flawed argument, it is not the one that science says exists. Transitional fossils have characteristics that unite different groups. So, for example, I hope I pronounced this correctly, Archeopteryx, which shows traits of reptiles and birds, and in some sense is transient or transitional between older reptiles and birds with a common ancestor.

The fossil record has many examples of this. Thus, like fish, tetrapods or whale mammals, not all transitional species have been discovered. Not all links have been made. There may not be a record of every transition, but all the evidence we have supports the broader evolutionary transitions that Darwinian evolution claims. And then Tucker says we don't have any proof. We don't have a perfect test that goes from a single-celled organism to Homo sapiens. It is true that fossils are recorded from the beginning. Early single-celled organisms are challenging because of the enormous time scales and how fragile microscopic life is.

But when you look at how universal DNA and RNA are in all living organisms, you get evidence of that common origin. And the molecular biology of even the simplest organisms shows a shared genetic code, shared fundamental processes, all pointing to a single common ancestor that Tucker focuses on. He doesn't believe we have all the evidence we hypothetically could have, but all the evidence we have points in the same direction, and there is no evidence that is decisive. This positively disproves all of this. Let's listen a little more. Speaker 6: It's not that there's no chain in the fossil record of that at all.

And that's why you don't really listen to people. You hear them refer to evolution because the theory of adaptation is clearly true. Okay, but Darwin's theories. Totally unfair. That's why it's still a theory almost 200 years later. Speaker 1: Okay, so when they don't understand the definition of theory in a scientific context, that's when it really gets out of control. Because the theory has two meanings. There is what we mean by science, what we mean in science by theory, which is the accepted consensus, the best explanation based on all the data and the evaluation of multiple hypotheses. That's what we mean by theory.

Now, if you show up at your local bar and say to the guy sneaking up next to you, hey, I have a theory about what the Fed is really up to, do you want to hear it? That is a colloquial use of the term theory. And of course Tucker is falling for the bottom line of this theory, it just means it's an idea. Now, in science, it means something else. Speaker 6: No, no, we haven't found that at all. And I can't even guess. I mean, I have my own theories about this, but they're not proven. Speaker 1: And, of course, your theories are just hypotheses.

Not that his theories are equivalent to the theory of evolution, but that's what he wants viewers to think. Speaker 7: What are your theories? Speaker 6: God created the people you know clearly and the animals. I mean, I think that's what every person on earth thought until the mid-19th century, actually. Speaker 7: Correct. But that's not a new idea. Speaker 1: Isn't it so funny that people used to think other things until we got more information? Speaker 2: Oh. Speaker 7: Yeah, they didn't have computers. They didn't have a general understanding of the process we have today. Speaker 1: Anyway, you guys understand.

Total nonsense. You know, the chain of evolution is not sequential. We are talking about a branching tree with common ancestors. And I don't know, you'd think someone like Tucker. I mean, he's not stupid, but he also seems to claim that he believes things that are pretty dumb. You would think he would know a lot of this stuff. So I don't know if he's just playing a character I don't really know.