Will HEUSINKVELD SPRINTS make YOU faster?? HE Sprints Vs V3

so it's time for another review and I think today we're going to find out if a 325 pound set of pedals can compare to a 525 pound set of pedals. It's the fanatec v3s versus the 8g

sprints

. My name is Gavin Halls. Still smoking in the garage and today we are going to test these two pedals back to back and find out which one is better and why they are better. Let's get on with this, okay, so I think we'll head out on a sunny day to Lagos. We have the track temperatures at the tips of the track at 27 degrees, the air temperature at 27 degrees, we

will

keep the weather fixed for both races, so I have the v freezer on the platform right now and then we

will

change after 30 laps and we will do the

sprints

and see how we do the lap times, so first go for a lap with a v3s. um I'll tell you what I feel and what's good and bad about basically with these pedals.

I think they're good, I mean, as a low cell pedal, definitely a step up and to me they're a big step up from the logistics g29s, as I think we saw in the previous movie. What I'm facing now is I'm starting to look for that last time frame for that last kind of four tenths, six tenths, which is becoming very difficult to get and now we're getting to the heart of the matter. -The braking zones and throttle application are sandy, so with a v it freezes what I'm suffering. They still feel a little bit itchy.

I still have problems trying to control the braking. When going down, decelerate the car in a curve and the same thing. With the front lumps, I just got the settings wrong, but just to get a throttle that's nice and smooth, more like the real thing, this tends to still feel a little rushed and I just can't. I found with them the sweet spot that I'm looking for, so my pedals in this ring I had to modify them a little to fit the equipment, so I had to

make

a four thousand steel basket for them. to sit on because my rig is quite narrow and the original v3 box didn't work.

All the original v3 pedals with the side plates on didn't actually fit between the rails on my rig, so I had to

make

a whole new basket. What really happened is that I think I made them stiffer than they were standard, so I basically took the sides off the pedals and made my own little three-mill steel box for them to sit on. Definitely better, definitely stiffer than what they are standard, but I stand still and I can see with my eyes from here when I press the pedal I see a little bit of flex in the brake pedal due to the design of the pedals they sit on . on long bars and there is some flex in the middle of the bar where the brake pedal is, so when you step on the brake pedal you can see the whole bar flexing up and down, that has nothing to do with a modification I have made me think it is a design problem with the pedals.

Now any flex will take away from the performance side of the pedals. It's going to dull the feeling. It's like having a dry wheel on a floppy disk. You're going to lose some of the sensation. What do you need, I think this is a problem with these pedals, it just doesn't always matter how hard or soft you have them, it just doesn't feel like you are, the pressure you are applying is transmitted to the actual car, slowing you down. on the track and with that flex as well that's going to make the pressure a little bit unstable um and it might cause me problems locking the wheels anyway, let's go ahead and increase the speed a little bit and we'll go off the track.

So the setup I'm running tends to be good for four or five rounds with a 911 round in Lagos and then it goes off and the reason I've used it is because then it really makes you have to work with it. a break at the front after five laps, I try to keep the times consistent, so I want to see what the difference is between these two pedals in a car that goes out over a race distance, so the big braking points in the lakes are turn one and then I tend to find the other big areas in twisty session sections in the middle where we're slowing down second first gear to get the car turning, you can gain or lose quite a bit of time there to get to the 100 meter limit.

On the brakes we have to reduce the speed of the car. I'm just putting the front brakes all the way into that corner. I'm not going to touch the bars. I'm going to leave it as it is. I just feel with these pedals. They are quite stiff, I have loosened them to try to imitate the sprints a little, so going down three gears is not so bad and with the power coming out I am getting used to the throttle again on the v3s and, uh, going up to the power, I feel like I can getting the power pretty abruptly, so I'm getting used to freezing all the power, I feel like I can get the power pretty abruptly, it almost feels like a bit of a change, um, you get a bit of upward progression. say 70, but that last bit of acceleration feels like going straight to 100, it doesn't feel like there's much progression, which is good for some corners and um, but when you're on a slippery track or you're driving a car with hot tires going off it's probably not a big deal because suddenly the car can take a huge amount of power and then break to the side so we have someone again.

Remember I'm fighting to get the car to slow down and lock up. the inside front wheel, so it brakes at 100 and that's a little better, it's still slow, although I don't use the brakes anymore when I get to the avex, they are hard on the barrel, the start will probably be a little better now after the first. The laptops tires got hot so they went into turn four, dropped three gears and then put the power up on the way out, a bit of a trail for this one so they broke and spun up to third into fourth again and hard into the power output and these are the hard ones to get into, so we're going down a second gear, a little test brake, turning, take the power, go out very hard, a test, go in and hard, come out, we're here.

We're balancing the throttle, just trying to keep the rear from spinning hard with the brakes going down a gear to the apex and then hard with the power going up the hill, so yeah, overall the v3s are good, just they have a little bit of problems and I hope the sprints can take me to the next level to what I'm looking for, a little closer to a real life car, a little more realistic, but for the price I mean they are a good pedal . I definitely need the performance kit but it's still just the feel on my feet, they feel like blocks of wood, they don't feel very refined and I can feel a lot of movement in the pedals, a lot of flex, a lot of sideways flex. movement, they're not perfectly put together, they feel a lot closer to the real thing than the g29s obviously, but they're not as close as a very well designed set of eight g pedals will be, and I think that's where we're going to see the difference anyway, enough talking, let's move on, we'll do some laps and see how these pedals open up wide, so okay, now I've got the sprints on the team, so let's go out and do a couple of laps and I'll tell you exactly what that I feel while driving, so we return to Interlagos.

The same conditions, the same track conditions, the same temperatures, the same configuration, everything is the same as the v3 and, let's see. how are we going so I mean the first thing we need to talk about with sprints the main reason they're going to be better than v3 is the software that comes with them so right off the bat with the software that you have. Free individual pedals and you can configure each pedal individually too so you can change the pedal maps. By changing the maps, you can change the way the pedals react to pressure. You can change the curve of how the pressure. or how the inputs are on the pedals, it's amazing so I'll show you I'll open the software on the screen so you can see for now, I just set them up and how They let me know so I bought these pedals from my board simulations in the UK and Matt, who runs my desk, is a great guy, very helpful, so he gave me his setups that he runs on his own personal set as a sort of starting point. um so I can go ahead and make this video, so thank you very much for that, matt. um so yeah we have a pretty good starting point to start with but you can adjust a lot more on these pedals than you can with a v3s.

I mean, like most low tail pedals with rubber bushings, you can obviously change the rubbers to make them hard and soft, and you know you can change the angle of the pedals, the pedal for the distances, you know, that's quite a bit standard, but then with this software you can also go in and map them individually, it just gives you a whole infinite number of settings, you can literally spend your whole life playing with the settings and actually float your boat, so these are the pedals. you need it, you can waste every day of your life just playing with the settings, um, but there are also so many people running it, there is a lot of information available and a lot of people are willing to share their settings, as well as just finding what you're used to so soon right out of the box it just feels like the v3's feel a bit like a toy these feel a lot closer to real life under my feet um the quality there's no movement in them at all the v3, you can just feel a little bit of play and at this level that makes a big difference um with a sprint they are like they just feel like the normal pressure of a racing car it feels very good from the first moment, I just go to stabilize this first flap, let's get in there, just full braking control all the way, um, it feels like every little pressure I'm putting on the pedal is doing it, but we're sending a signal to the pc for the game the accelerator pedal goes feels amazing the spring on the front pedal is perfect absolutely perfect considering it is not connected to a throttle body in a real car it feels very realistic it feels like a normal flight with a throttle on a normal road or in a racing car that we have today, the throttle output is perfect, so they feel sharp, they feel like they feel much sharper, they're not sharp as it's really hard to control, it just feels. like every little movement you make on the pedals, you get a reaction out of the game.

If I had to explain it, if you imagine like the v3, then you said in the vfrs for every kind of uh 0.25 percent pressure that you put a v3 on, it would send this signal to the v3, uh, to the PC, let's do it right, like this that in the v3, if you say for every 0.25 kilos of pressure you put on the pedal, it sends a signal to the pc for the game, these are not real statistics, by the way, this is just me trying to explain if you said in terms Opposites for sprints, it would be more like every 0.5 of pressure on the pedal to get a signal to continue the game, I just feel much more reactive to the different changes you are making in pressure and the pressure feels so smooth .

The action of the v3s felt a little gritty to me. I always feel like they have sand in them. They're just not smooth and fluid, whereas these are the exact opposite, really very fluid in their movement, yeah, oh man, all that butter, okay, let's raise our faces a little bit, I feel a lot more confident in the front towards the let's go out of the corner with these, I don't know why and even with the brakes, um, okay, so I think with the brakes I can get right on the edge of locking up so I can hear the wheels locking, but I'm able to modulate the pressure on the brake pedal to just sit them right on the edge without locking up, so right when the tires squeal, which is like the sweet spot with the v freezing, you can't do that because what you end up doing is you you come out on pressure and then you come out too much, whereas with these I can just sit it right on top of that triangle and accelerate, oh, it's just a deep flow because you're not fighting a pedal.

We are not fighting with a game or harshness, you can only make a quick move. I'm sure we'll see that in the data, but it feels like the gas pedal is so soft, so hit the brakes. Now I really pushed in, I burst myself out but I could feel the world blocking but I still had control of the car. I was able to modulate the pressure to still turn the car. I opened up a little bit but I think with the v3s it would just be like crashing and ending the game, you'd be off the track and right on the edge again, oh my god the gas pedal and brakes are incredibly awesome but I have a lot more confidence coming out of the front corner.

The throttle is amazing, the brakes are amazing too, but I definitely feel a little movement in my pants on the gas pedal, why are these brakes so good? It's just the precision, I think this requires a lot more effort on the part of With the pressure than the v3s, you can just get to the edge, but you have a lot more headroom withthese pedals. We were running like 2.310, 2.3 uh seconds slower than normal. We have to get used to it, but I know. I'm going to be

faster

, I mean, I'm already seeing green bars in some of the corners.

Oh yeah, I think it's just confidence inspiring, plus having something solid under your feet gives you that confidence to keep your foot planted. I'll tell you what they have woken up this vrs too, it just feels a little different in my hands, which is really random, I don't know. Is it just because the pedals boost my confidence or because the computer receives a lot more information from the pedals, which helps the wheel get more definition, but the wheel definitely feels much better overall. I'm just getting a lot more feedback. I'm not sure if that's a real physical sensation or if it's just my confidence in the pedals as maybe I don't have to work as hard on a pedal so I can get a lot more feedback from the wheel but it feels different for sure. feels different I think they just complement each other yeah, that's cool, oh, that's so cool, let's keep going because this is a pretty small lap for this setup, I'm probably not going to talk too much we're going to have to start concentrating must have gone through there oh god that feels good gut wrenching there it just feels perfect much more control this is not a bad lap this will not be a bad lap for the setup I think we needed a 34 8 not too far from 34 9.

That would have taken me a lot of laps to do it with the v3's um wow yeah they're just amazing that's the only way to explain it so I've done it. I didn't even tickle the software, but I'm following what Matt recommended, obviously that's pretty good, it'll be a pretty good base, but there's always room for improvement, you know everyone has their own preferences, they're awesome, so, Where does the money go? Why do they cost a little more, probably almost double? It's in the feel, so the quality of the pedals in general is just another league from the v3s, as I say the v3s feel a little playful in their design and in the way that to make them feel real, you have a lot of more adjustability in the pedals, like mechanically in the pedals, than with the v3s and plus you have this software, um, it's just a win. -win-win I don't know if they will be like you, no.

I don't think you'll find even half a second on them compared to the v3. You'll probably be out again. The same in a fast lap. I bet the V Freeze would be a much more interesting hot lap in terms of having the car locked up and doing all kinds of dancing. I think you'll be much smoother with these. pedals and I am guaranteed that they will be

faster

over a race distance because you won't make as many mistakes, even you know to the point where if you lock a wheel you will be able to recover it, I don't know, there will be those points with a v freeze where You just won't be able to get it back.

I think you'll be able to save it with these, so maybe it won't be much faster on a flying lap, but I think over the course of a race distance, these will be better, they'll help you overtake for sure because you have a lot more control over the brake pedal and also on the power. off the turns, so I think yeah, in a race, this is, these are going to kick some ass, but what am I going to do now, we're going to run for three, we're going to run for about ten laps, a sprint. race sessions to get the average times on the pedals and then we'll take a look at the data, so yeah, I'll see you all in a minute, oh don't stop spinning, oh they're so good, they catch well in a a little bit okay so we'll start looking at some of these lap times and break down the data a little bit so we'll start with the fastest sessions comparison so I took the two fastest sessions so we did ten laps and I did three of those with each set of pedals, I took the two fastest ones and then we have a simple line graph here and I'll just explain it, I mean you can see it's pretty close, it's actually closer than I am.

I thought it was going to be um, but I think what this line graph shows us is three main points, so that correlates quite a bit with what I said when I was first using sprints, which is what you're going to have. more control at the beginning of a session, so when the cars are on cold tires, just because you have a little more definition in your inputs, you can have a little more control with the car when, uh, when the rubber is cold. Turn up the heat so we can see the sprints are faster in that opening lab.

Now, once everything starts coming up to temperature, it evens out. I think you know that the two pedals are pretty close in performance, but the second. problem and again, another thing that I bought when I was riding the sprints is that you are going to make mistakes with both pedals, but I think with the sprints you will be able to make mistakes, but you will be able to control it and you will be able to maintain your speed, your momentum and your lap time very similar and with the v freeze if you lock a wheel if the car suddenly brakes to one side or tries to turn.

In a corner it is very difficult to recover because you simply don't have much more left. On the pedals you don't have that definition that you feel, whereas with the sprints you can make these little adjustments that help you get the car. under control much faster and we can see that in the middle of this graph, obviously, I did, I think it was literally a crash break with the v3s and it shaved half a second off that time, so then Continue to the end of the session and again the same problem, so now, like I said, with these settings, the tires towards laps eight, nine and ten, the tires are starting to come off a little bit, the cars start to move and lose a little bit of a front end with a bit of understeer and again that laptop from the last lap with the v3s again, another mistake and a big waste of time overall, as I say, they are pretty close in performance, it's just these little my new mistakes that they're going to cost your time, um, and I looked at all three sections, but this was actually the closest, so these were the two fastest times and I thought it was the best one to show you, so I moved on to the average session time of ten laps so we got the freezer v with 15 minutes 52 seconds 0.260 and the spirits came in with 15 minutes 50.203 so there's a solid two second difference um which you know in 10 laps so if you say they're more of 20 laps, then you are up to the task. four seconds difference, so that's a pretty considerable amount of time that can make the difference in a close race between being seventh and being third or second, so yes, you can gain a lot of time there, and I think, again, it's simply a lack of consistency.

There's not much difference between the fastest laps, but just being able to keep those times together is where this time is at, so yeah, really interesting, so out of the 30 laps I did with each setup we took the average span, so we have got the freezer v with 35 205 and then much better sprints there so 35.003 so that's a 0.202 difference which is quite a game and you know that shows up again like I'm saying with the sprints you're just going to Be more consistent because, although you know that everyone makes mistakes, we make little arrows, but you will be able to fix those mistakes and still maintain your speed and those lap times.

I think with v3 you know you can do it. a quick slap, but then on the next lap you can lose half a second because you lock the wheel and you just can't get it back, so that's what's shown here, yeah, a pretty good result, so next we'll do the fastest one. lap comparison, so these were the fastest laps I could do with both setups, so we got there. The v3 is a really good lap with this setup, which is 34,960 um and the sprints just went over 34,803 um. I saw when I was doing the previous session with the sprints lowered to 34, I couldn't really improve much more in that time, it worried us with this setup on this track with the temperatures really, really. strong times, um, so it's like one zero, one, five, seven, uh, difference that in a single lap is not much, but you know it's still an improvement and in the race distance we will see much greater gains, so It's really cool and like I say, showing that there's not much difference, I think the difference is that with the v freeze, you're quickly hitting a v3, it's going to be a lot more hectic, whereas with the sprints you'll just be able to do the lap, you'll probably you'd better do two or three laps in a couple of tries at that point too, whereas with the V Freeze it will tend to be a one-hit wonder, okay, so let's go over some of the data and see if we can explain where sprints get an advantage over v3 um so i'm just using vrs vrs driving analyzer for this so it's free so if you haven't downloaded vrs yet go ahead and download it it's really valuable tool get quite a bit of content for free to get access to the data so you can compare your laps and see where you need to go faster and slow down to give you optimal laps to aim for.

Because, and it will just help you improve your driving anyway, so I chose one of the corners at Interlagos, I have two laps, so the blue line is the sprints and the red dotted line is the frozen v. Um, so I selected two laps that were roughly the same fuel so we know that the temperature and track conditions are exactly the same, so I have two laps that were roughly the same fuel, the sprints were faster another two laps, but It's just a good comparison, just to see where they're getting their advantage and what's going on.

What corners these are, turns 10 and 11, so towards the end of the lap, the last really tight right hand corner, a really tricky little corner. you're braking and turning slightly as you get closer and then you really have to slow the car down to the apex and you're trying to shoot the car out the other end as hard as possible. as you can, but you're also turning, so you're basically trying to keep it flat through this long, wide left curve, a really tricky little complex. I think it's a good demonstration of the pedal's performance and what's going on, and so does my no.

Regardless, it's excellent driving performance. If we look at the top, we have speed, then we have time difference, we have the line, so this tells us where we are on the track and how far I am from the line. We have the throttle map, so this shows us when it's up here, it's a hundred percent when it's down here, it's in the north, so full throttle and no throttle, we have the same thing with the brakes, so pressure and brakes at sixty. The percentage on this curve is at the top and then zero at the bottom and then we also have the steering angle trace, so it captures every little movement of the steering as we go through the curve, so if we look as we get to the corner that you see maybe yeah, I just see there's a little bit of a recursive here so we're getting to the corner um and you can see here so this red dotted line is the uh the v freezes to get off the throttle before from uh we did it with the sprints and if you look down at the break graft, we can see that I started braking earlier with the v3s and then with the sprints it's a little more recent, probably two or three meters difference in braking , because?

It's that and I think it comes down to what I was saying when I was driving with the sprints on. I feel like I have a lot more confidence in the pedals and that confidence allows me to brake later, but what's interesting. Also, if we look here, you can see that I'm on a completely different line with the sprints, so not only is my confidence increasing on the brakes, but like I said, we're also doing a lot of braking and turning. In the corner you can see where we are still at, we are turning the car quite hard but we are also braking, so not only has my confidence in the brake pedal in a straight line increased, but also my confidence in controlling the car.

The braking has increased which has allowed me to push the car to the outside of the track, so here at this point we have 2.9 meters of track width, so I found a lot more tracks to play with that are allowed. Basically I have to carry more speed into the corner, so if we look up from the initial point where I start braking, we can see here that the red line goes down, so this is a speed, so you can see that I already got an advantage . because i'm traveling into the corner a lot faster with the sprints and then the v freeze actually braked pretty hard, it slowed down now the other interesting thing to me is the brake graphs and what's going on here.

I'm seeing this on almost every corner so this is a big point of difference between v3s and sprints so if you look at the v freeze it's pretty nice and consistentgo up, but then it really curves at the top. a really slow and horrible corner at the top with brakes and throttle we want lines as sharp and agile we want straight lines as much as possible we want them to get almost to the vertical and you know when we apply the brakes and also when we take them off, it which you can see here is kind of a long slow arc in the v freeze, but then if you look at the sprints it goes right up to 60 so v3s my max brake pressure will be here so it's about a 46.5 percent max pressure on the brakes and then if you look up the v freezes we're right at the top of the pre v3 v brackets there it's 59 so it's over 12 13 about what I was doing with the v it freezes nowBecause I got it up there pretty fast I obviously applied more pressure to the brakes which means I make the car decelerate faster and harder over a shorter distance.

It also means I can release the brakes a little sooner. I can see that the trail here catches up so that's where these speeds are coming from so I went into the right corner more sharply and then carried more speed and then managed to catch the v, freeze at the bottom and get the car It went down at almost the same speed at the apex, so if you look at the This time I managed to reduce the speed of the car by five kilometers per hour less. What happened here is that we have a lower and earlier top speed, and what that allowed me to do then is accelerate early.

I said, "hop on." the power earlier in the corner, so at this point here I haven't even reached the apex, I just got there. I'm actually on the power right before the apex, which is really good, it's exactly what you want for this corner, so you can see. There is a lot more confidence in turning up the power, probably four or five meters earlier, when accelerating the car, so at this point, right out of the corner, we are going 81 kilometers per hour for sprints only at 75.2 with the v frozen, so By the time we come out of the corner and we're both at full power on both pedals, so look, we're at 100 on both pedals, I'm at 60 miles an hour with the sprints and I. m six kilometers per hour slower b freeze and you can see there with the speed line that it carries a lot more speed, which equals more time, so we are faster in a particular part of the corner again because I turned late, uh , wider and later.

I've managed to keep the car on the right side, which gives me a much more open track to use on this long left turn, which means I can get power all the way up there so you can see. traveling down reaching the turning point now at this point we are three kilometers per hour faster yes so we are three kilometers per hour faster because we have reached that speed much faster, I have to lift the throttle earlier with the sprints to deliver the car, you can see I'm still in power with the v3s, so at that point the v3s just jump ahead of all the societies that you can see on the speed graph.

The red dots just get there, but because I had the lift, turn and balance the car, I can turn the power back on, whereas at the opposite time with the v3s because I get there much later because I'm trying to catch up and I'm much later without accelerating. I had to lift even more to turn the car and if we look at the steering angle, what I'm actually doing is finding quite a bit of understeer. corners with the v3, so if you look at the angle of the steering wheel as we go into the corner, you can see that this tells me that I am turning the wheel to the left and you can see that with the v3s I am putting more steering lock. the steering wheel to make the car turn into the corner, so I'm fighting a bit of understeer, actually, since I've closed the corner here, I have to turn it a lot more, let's chase it around the corner and see, see.

I just put the steering lock on all the time, so I really prepared myself from the beginning of this office complex, I just have more confidence in the brakes coming in, but yeah, look at that brake line, it's a really nice spike . and pretty controlled all the way down. I just gave the brakes another little stab just before the apex to get the car to turn, probably just put a little weight on the front of the wheels to make it turn into the apex hard. energy comes out and the tracks they make reflect each other quite well.

See, I can also modulate the throttle, so just when I start to feel the rear of the car come on, I can just hold the power, let the rear end calm down, and accelerate back to full power, so I wait Let that give you an idea of ​​what is happening, as I say, with that brake track. I'm seeing the same thing. story in almost every corner so I have this really lazy v3 trace that is often quite a few percent and then I have this really snappy sprint trace that goes up to 60 70 and is also pretty smooth on the way down.

How do we summarize that? Well I think it's pretty obvious and we knew from the beginning that the 8gs are a much better pedal performance wise. I think the gap was actually a little smaller than I expected, but any improvement in performance. it's going to be worth it, so if you say the pedals are about 200 pounds heavier than the V Freeze right now on the market, and that's why you get two lap times if you can, if you can figure out how to use them. They are really good pedals, they are solidly built, great engineering, they are just beautiful under your feet, they feel like a completely different class to the v3's and the added bonus is the software you get with them so you are able to map those pedals to suit each different car you drive and it's literally a case of jumping from car to car with a couple of mouse clicks and you'll be all set up with different maps ready to go.

I don't think you can beat that for £525. I think the price is right now in the UK. It's pretty good value for money. The way I look at it is if you went to any racing team in the world right now. they can make you two attempts one lap faster for £525 everyone would throw their money at you straight away um that's quite a considerable amount of time, you know, two seconds over a 10 lap race distance um so that's quite a considerable part of time and I'm sure you'll all be looking at your race results now and figuring out where two extra seconds would put you on the grid if you're in a pretty close championship, so where does that leave me?

Well, obviously, I bought the HGs to make this video, but I'll keep them. I love them. I'll also stick with the Fanatex, probably just to get desperate, but I might build another deck soon and I think they'll possibly find their way. the new ring or will they keep this one, what is there for the future? Well, if you are the main one, you will see that there is a symmetrical wheel in the back, in the corner, so the magic has been removed, thank goodness because I drove. I'm crazy because I've actually updated. I have a vrs um direct force pro on the rig now so the next video we put together is going to be a direct comparison so let's compare that some magic to this vrs. and find out exactly where the difference is and what the extra money is for the vrs.

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